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Child Support Accountability: Where Is It?

Posted: 11/10/10 10:41 AM ET

The other day a client was in my office discussing the amount of child support he was paying. My client, who is in the entertainment industry, makes a large amount of money. As a result, he pays a fairly significant amount of child support to his ex-wife for their two children. His ex-wife does not work. In addition to that, he pays her spousal support. She also receives half of his royalties accrued during their marriage.

My client was not complaining about the fact that he was paying this money to her, although he certainly would like to pay less. He was telling me a story about how the week prior his daughter came to him needing shoes. Prior to that, she told him she needed an article of clothing for school. In fact, for some time now, on a regular basis both his son and daughter have come to him and asked him to buy them this or that. When he has asked them why they are asking him for these things, they give the same answer: "Mom said your dad needs to take care of it."

My client does provide clothing and other items to his children. They live with him part of the time and have their own clothing and personal effects at his house. What my client is objecting to is paying child and spousal support and then still being put in the situation of either having to supplement those items further by buying these things for his children, or telling his children that he is going to do so. After all, if he is paying child support, it seems that the children's mother should be spending the money on things that his children need. This is not an uncommon situation.

In California, as well as in many other states, there are guidelines in effect which determine the amount of support that someone is to pay the other parent. The guidelines have several factors: the income each parent has, the tax deductible expenses that each party pays, and the amount of time that the children are in the direct care of each party. These child support guidelines are implemented by statutes. There is one thing missing from these statutes, however. That is a requirement that the child support money be used for the children, not for the parent to whom the child support is being paid.

Some states impose limitations on the dollar amount of support to be paid. In these states, such as New York, there is a presumed limit which is intended to insure that the children have basic needs, but also intended to make sure that the parent receiving the payment does not get a windfall. In other states, such as California, this limit does not exist. We often see articles in the tabloids and mainstream press about battles going on in court over child support.

In the cases of children born out of wedlock where the parents do not live together, child support alone can provide sufficient income for the parent who is receiving it to maintain not only the child's lifestyle, but also that parent's. In extreme cases, the payment of child support can mean that the receiving parent does not have to work. Child support is intended to be just that: support for the children, not the parent with whom they are living. One way to counter this problem is to require the parent who is receiving the support to actually spend it on the children. Our statutes go into great detail about how to calculate the amount of support, but they are completely devoid of any requirement which mandates that the parent receiving it account for the expenditure of the money received.

These statutes are devoid of any court procedure to allow a party to question how the money is spent, nor do the statutes grant judges the authority to curtail the amount of support paid or mandate how the support received is expended.

If there were a mechanism in place for oversight, there would be much less abuse of this process. Oddly enough, our legal system gives judges broad discretion to make orders concerning custody arrangements, but it severely limits that discretion over the amount of support paid for the benefit of those very same children.

We expect fiscal accountability on so many levels in our society: of government, of corporations, of financial institutions, of recipients of welfare and food stamps. We are outraged by the fact that lack of personal financial accountability contributed in large part to the housing bust and our present recession. Why then, does it seem that we simply do not care if child support is not used for the direct needs of the children for whom it is being paid?

 

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hismuse
01:13 PM on 11/19/2010
So much I'd love to say about this subject but his ex used to stalk me online so I'm just going to say - AGREE.
05:11 PM on 11/15/2010
We need to stop kidding ourselves about maternal gatekeeping

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-hymowitz-families-20101111,0,6462852.story
07:28 AM on 11/16/2010
This article discusses how BOTH parents fail the children in situations where poor people have kids out of wedlock. It's not about "maternal gatekeeping". It's about a very specific situation where unmarried poor couples tend not to marry and, if the mom takes a new boyfriend, the father of the child tends to stop visiting. I don't know what this proves, except that the fathers grudge or anger at the mom is more important to him than doing the right thing by the kid. Nowhere does it say that the mother prevents the father from seeing the kid - just that he's less likely to do so if she gets a new boyfriend. I'm not sure how this vindicates your point of view that poor poor fathers are being kept from their beloved children by the evil mother.

Did you read it?
10:42 AM on 11/15/2010
Child support laws arise under the Social Security laws, Title 42 of the United States Code (specifically 42 U.S.C. Sections 659-671), it is not hard to compel all child support recipients to account for child support payments.

A parent acting as a representative payee receiving Social Security Disability benefits for their child(ren) MUST fill out an SSA-6230 form showing how much Social Security benefits you received and how much was used. You also have to show if any money wasn't used, where it is, what bank accounts you use to deposit the benefits or keep the remaining benefits in savings. You must keep receipts to show how the money is spent on the child(ren) each month. I believe these forms are required quarterly or 2X per year.

Compel your state legislators to follow the law and implement the SSA-6230 form into state law for purposes of child support accountability.
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Michael Tolbert
Persistence is essential to success.
07:23 PM on 11/14/2010
The real problem is state laws based on the anitquated "tender years doctrine" presumptions. The U.S. Supreme Court has consistenly ruled that Parental Rights are fundemental and shall remain inviolate. TROXEL v. GRANVILLE - 530 U.S. 57 (2000). ["...they long have been interpreted to have found in 14th Amendment concepts of liberty an independent right of the parent in the "custody, care and nurture of the child," free from state intervention.]
The real costs of raising the children should be determined based on lifestyles of the parents AFTER separation. Then the cost should be shared proportionately. States prefer to take the easy way out by imposing one-size-fit-all solutions without regard to how it infringes upon the fundemental rights of fit parents to raise their children.
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Mark Godbey
09:07 PM on 11/14/2010
And everyone know that child support is a calculation of visitation. Time spent with the children has been a problem that the federal government has stepped into to the disadvantage of children and the non-custodial parent. A working formula will never be fair to the Non-Custodial parent

Title IV-D has rewarded states by setting up sole custody incentives in Family Court and the counties that administer the program. As a result, children are awarded to one parent, to the financial advantage of the state, and the non-custodial parent has to pay more money, since their time with children is less.

Child support should be only based on presumptive mandatory, shared custody. It is a violation of the 14th Amendment, and the numerous Supreme Court decisions that support a parent's rights to custody, care and nurture of the child, as quoted above.

Those who oppose mandatory, shared custody are generally womens rights groups that believe that "primary" parents is always the mother, and father have no say in a child's future, education, or medical matters. Children are held hostage, taken into custody by the state, to the economic benefit of the custodial parent's purse, and the to the detriment of the children's well being, emotional and mental health.

The "best interest of the child" and "tender years doctrine" violate children's and parent's legal rights under the US Constitution. Children are not a commodity, custody is legal slavery.
01:38 PM on 11/14/2010
(continued)

Clothing: Clothing costs are to be paid for 1/2 child support and 1/2 CP. The child is allowed to have whatever the NCP says they may have and CP should buy the child anything they want even if this includes the latest 300 dollar pair of tennis shoes.

Medical expenses: The NCP generally has to cover child on medical insurance and this is not right, CP should have to reimburse for this expense (never mind that in most states it is already covered in CS calculations). As for uncovered expenses these should be covered in the calculation for child support. After all this is an expense of having children, taking them to the doctor.

Extra curricular activities (even those pursued pre-divorce/separation): The NCP should have the right to attend if they choose even if they do not agree with the activity and even if they never attended previously. And even so, the CP should pay for this 100% as the NCP is not being contacted regarding choices of said activity. And not all children can afford to particpate so why should these children and why should the NCP have to foot the bill (or even half of it)?

This is just a very short list but all of these are covered by MRA's on their websites over the dissatisfaction they have over issues of child support.
01:31 PM on 11/14/2010
Sadly those who want accountability for child support spending also believe this:

Rent should be 50% of the difference between what mother (or father) has to pay in order to house child. Example: If mom has 3 children then one or two additional bedrooms should be sufficient. So child support should be used to pay 1/2 of the difference between say a one bedroom for mom(dad) and a 2-3 bedroom for mom (dad) and children.

Food should not be 1/2 of the food bill, it should be 1/2 of the child's breakfast (and as a custodial parent you should keep tabs on exactly what your child eats every day), 1/2 of the child's lunch and 1/2 of the child's dinner.

Utility costs (power, gas, water, sewer, trash) this should again only be 1/2 of what the child uses. So parents who have electric costs, you should determine how much energy the child (children) consume and child support is 1/2 of that. Maybe there should be some sort of monitor on the electric box in order to determine how much energy is consumed by the child. Things like refrigerators do not count though because CP would have to have a refrigerator anyway. Same thing with gas, water, sewer, trash. You as a custodial parent should determine how much of each of these is due to the child's use and exactly 1/2 of that is to be paid for by child support. (cont)
09:54 AM on 11/15/2010
Anyone who thinks it is practical to measure out the dollar value of each child's portion of his breakfast, lunch and dinner - not to mention the proportion of electricity, heat, cable tv, etc. each child consumes - is not fit to care for children.

All this penny pinching by the wealthy parent - a parent who is frequently the selfish partner who destroyed the family in the first place - is really ugly.
08:56 PM on 11/16/2010
It is indeed sad but as an advocate for dv survivors I see this by many in the abuser's lobby (also known as Father's Rights). I would have to dig out the link in my huge files and libraries but it was in 2005 when I first ran across that thread and I do believe some of the posters on this article were involved in that conversation (MG). Actually it will not be possible for me to pull up that conversation because it took place on glennsacks.com and he has completely disabled that website except for a splash page . All the nasty conversations are gone except those saved in screen shot format or through web archives.
04:10 PM on 11/17/2010
Yet, that's what every parent in every intact family does. They pinch pennies in what is called a "household budget". But then again, liberal entitlement parasites wouldn't know anything about that.
10:21 PM on 11/13/2010
This is a very relevant topic for discussion. I agree that some sort of accountability needs to be instituted in child support. How to do that without eating up precious resources would be a major problem, because most child support does not happen in high income families like Silberberg describes, but in families which are financially stressed by being split into separate households.

I have a problem with Silberberg's repeated comment that the mother "doesn't work". It is more appropriate (and probably more accurate most of the time) to state that the mother is not employed. Semantics do make a difference.

And that plays into my second problem with Silberberg's position, that he apparently believes that only income producing work is of any value. Age of the children makes a difference, and if it is possible for a parent to be available to the children for more than just five or six hours a day, that is usually a good thing for the children.

Like the "Cadillac Welfare Queen", the indolent ex-wife often has more to do with hyperbole than reality.
10:57 AM on 11/13/2010
Let me understand.....if SHE has extra money then he is paying too much. If HE has extra money it's O.K.
06:51 AM on 11/15/2010
If she has extra money that came from him....yes he is paying too much. If he has extra money that he earned....than yes, it's OK.
10:19 PM on 11/15/2010
You don't have a clue.
10:20 PM on 11/15/2010
It just means a better life for the kids.
10:51 AM on 11/13/2010
Why do I get the feeling from some comments that the child support should be determined by how much the mother makes instead of how much the father makes? They are still his kids.
06:53 AM on 11/15/2010
It should be based on how much both parents make. Custodial parents should be financially responsible as well as non-custodial parents. Ideally, there would be joint custody, and both parents are held financially accountable....not just men.
09:56 PM on 11/17/2010
I agree with you. As much as people say that it is based on the mothers income as well as the fathers, it isnt true. When my husband went to a custody meeting with Child Support and the mother, The mother claimed that she was unemplyed when infact she was employed. My husband sent child support countless documents proving that she was employed & they didnt do a thing. He is paying 100%
12:24 AM on 11/13/2010
The most amazing thing about my experience in divorce court was that lying was not only accepted, but encouraged. She literally could claim anything and if I disproved it (thousands to my lawyer) the judge simply sighed and moved on. The judge did threaten me assuming her claim about my finances was true. Again, I disproved it and the judge did nothing. The ex just couldn`t lose.
06:54 AM on 11/15/2010
This is really the root of the problem. Family court bias.
09:44 PM on 11/12/2010
In an attempt to reduce conflict legislators in Canada have move to an ability to pay system as opposed to a needs based system unfortunately this is the problem. In a needs based system there needs to be needs, while certainly there is an ability to create needs there is also discretion as to whether those are needs or wants.

The other problem many fathers face is that the courts treat us all as potential deadbeats or rich people hoarding our cash, this does nothing but enable mothers to leave us in a position where the children suffer under our care during visitation. Having lived divorce my whole life growing up and raising my children to adulthood I have one piece of advice to people thinking of marrying. Look for someone who will make a good ex wife as you can live with a bad wife but you cant live with a bad ex wife.
05:34 PM on 11/12/2010
In my state the percentage of support each parent is responsible for depends on the income of each parent. Both incomes of each parent are added together and a total amount of child support is determined. Then, the non custodial parents child support is based on the percentage of income they contribute to the total.

So if mom and dad together make 100K, dad makes 80K and mom makes 20K, and let say the state determines that the total child support amount for one child is $800/month, if mom has custody, dad has to pay 80% of $800/month.

I make much more than my ex, so according to my states child support formula he only has to provide for 30% of the total support amount. If the situation were reversed, and he made a lot more than me, his portion would have to cover 70% of the total support amount.

See, it's actually pretty fair and equitable.....
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bascombe
Send the kids off to die, bleed their country dry.
04:52 PM on 11/12/2010
my x-wife works, owns a house and they will do nothing to reduce my child support. every part of the system is geared against men. If you want to refute me, please provide adequate proof. I have been going through this for 14 years, so I'm not listening to any nonsense that my case is isolated. All men I know who've gone through this have the same experience.

the system assumes that men must pay.
09:57 PM on 11/17/2010
Agreed !
03:47 PM on 11/12/2010
Simple fix? The parent with the higher income should have 100% custody and give bi-weekly weekend visitation if the poorer's abode is fit for it. This isn't the 50's where men were considered lesser parents. Why charge the higher earner for the lower earner's inability to support her kids? She should (and no doubt would) have thought of that before choosing to give birth.
09:23 PM on 11/12/2010
Wow. The ability to parent should be based on salary? You must be a republican!
10:02 PM on 11/12/2010
No actually the above poster Bethab is probably a non-custodial father who has to give his ex-wife money. These men never look at it like they are supporting the children, it is always giving the ex money.
04:15 PM on 11/14/2010
Another very good idea. "Our" ex has gone to school TWICE since the divorce for two completely different careers - and now she doesn't work at all. Who do you think paid for that education? Us - financially, and the children - emotionally, since she did everything she could so she didn't have to deal with the kids.

If the children had gone to live with my husband, they would have eventually had two adults taking care of them and then the ex could have taken class after class to see if she could figure out what she wanted to be when she grew up...

And, by the way, you people who think every woman that is a mother is automatically a "madonna" should get a clue... (Christ was lucky, but he had a big advantage.)
07:24 PM on 11/11/2010
Going through this, too. My husband and I were married for 25 years and have 3 beautiful sons. I have maintained a beautiful home, have a full time career, and have tried to the best of my ability to navigate through his alcoholism and other addiction -- because I truly loved him and believed him to intrinsically be a good and wonderful man. Pending divorce (which has been put on hold because I have no finances to continue with legal fees) I now have the house (although I pay the entire mortgage), the kids, the bills, the care and upkeep of the home and property, etc. He has single life living in his brothers' basement with the woman he had an affair with during our marriage last year. He has no financial obligations except child support. His sister-in-law does all his laundry, cooking and shopping.

Needless to say, child support is barely helping me to make ends meet. When our divorce is final, the few hundred dollars of alimony will stop, I'll be forced to downsize and try to find an apartment with 3 boys, and have to secure an evening job to pay the divorce costs, the community debts, etc.

Oh yeah .. my husband inherited 200 acres with a paid family home and millions of dollars in the bank when his father recently passed. Our sons and I get none of it because it's a family trust.
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Icecube
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12:52 AM on 11/12/2010
You should be meeting your ends. Child support should be 50% of the childrens needs.
03:51 PM on 11/12/2010
And not being able to get your hands on his family's money is enraging, isn't it? I guess you won't know if he passes it on just like his father until the boys are too old for you to see a dime. How unfair! You deserve his family estate because of what? Envy? Bitterness?
07:28 PM on 11/12/2010
Taking care of his children's basic needs that aren't covered by measly child support so that I don't have to work 2 jobs (especially now that he is a millionaire) is asking too much? I don't want any of his 'family money'. I just want my children to be taken care of and not have to remind him for child support each month when it's 2 weeks late. Maybe because I was in the family for 30 years (5 years before marriage), helped take care of the home and farm, planned my 'parents' funerals, started to build our retirement home and 'family home' for our sons and their wives .. etc. Until my husband had his affair, his family considered me a daughter, a sister, a caretaker and told me continuously over the years that I would never be left hanging, I feel bitter. Life isn't fair. I get it.