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Romney and Roe

Posted: 10/27/2012 4:04 pm

We are coming up in January on the 40th anniversary of the Supreme Court's decision in Roe v. Wade. What are the chances that the Supreme Court will overrule Roe if Mitt Romney is elected president?

A reasonable guess at present, based on past performance, is that five of the current justices (Breyer, Ginsburg, Kagan, Kennedy and Sotomayor) would vote to reaffirm Roe, and four of the current justices (Roberts, Alito, Scalia, and Thomas) would vote to overrule Roe.

Thus, for Roe to be overruled, Romney, if elected, would have to have the opportunity to replace at least one of the five justices who support Roe. Based on the life expectancies of those five justices and on past experience, there is at least a 50 percent chance that at least one of those five justices will leave the Court in the next four years.

That does not mean, however, that there is a 50 percent chance that Romney's election will result in Roe being overruled. This is so because not every justice appointed by presidents committed to overruling Roe actually votes to do so. In the years since Roe, three Republican presidents who were clearly opposed to Roe have appointed seven justices to the Supreme Court. President Reagan appointed Justices O'Connor, Scalia and Kennedy; President H.W. Bush appointed Justices Souter and Thomas; and President George W. Bush appointed Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Alito.

Of those seven justices, three failed to vote to overrule Roe. Although they may have questioned the wisdom of Roe, they nonetheless concluded that respect for precedent required them to adhere to Roe. In so doing, they narrowed the scope of Roe in some significant respects, but they reaffirmed the core holding that a woman has a constitutional right to terminate an unwanted pregnancy, subject to reasonable regulation by the state.

Of the other four justices appointed by presidents committed to overruling Roe, two -- Scalia and Thomas -- have already voted unequivocally to overrule Roe. The other two -- Roberts and Alito -- have not yet had occasion to address that question directly. But given their general approach to precedent (they are stunningly quick to overrule prior decisions if they disagree with them), and their hostile approach to abortion-related issues generally, it is virtually certain that they will join Scalia and Thomas in voting to overrule Roe, if given the opportunity to do so.

Thus, if Romney is elected and gets to appoint a justice to replace one of the five justices who currently support Roe, there is roughly a 60 percent probability that that new justice will vote to overrule Roe. If we put these two numbers together, it is reasonable to predict that if Romney is elected there is a 30 percent chance that the Court will vote to overrule Roe v. Wade (60 percent of 50 percent).

In fact, though, the probability is slightly higher than that, because it is possible that more than one of the five justices who currently support Roe will leave the Court in the next four years and that Romney will therefore get two or more bites at the apple. Given that possibility, the odds that Romney will succeed in appointing a justice who will vote to overrule Roe increase to at least 40 percent.

Thus, for those men and women who care about the continuing authority of Roe v. Wade and the constitutional right of women to make decisions for themselves about whether to bear or beget a child, the stakes in this election are very high indeed.

 
 
 
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Willie Pagan
Pro Abortion, Pro DOMA & Independent
05:31 PM on 10/29/2012
we need to protect Roe vs Wade... no unwanted children should be brought into this world... we don't have the resourses to feed and take care of all these unwanted kids... It should be up to the mother and the mother only... Gov't should just stay out of that decision and support the woman if she chooses to abort that child. We should fund Planned Parenthood to the max and resind the Hyde Amendment so that the gov't can pay for the abortion and not pay the entitlements for that unwanted child. Wake up America...
05:17 PM on 10/29/2012
one question,should parents of disabled children ever have the right to end their lives after they are born?
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Lady1genius
No se puede tapar el sol con un dedo
01:27 PM on 10/30/2012
I believe they should have the right to allow nature to take it's course, just as anyone else has that option. We do not have the right to force medical treatmrnt on people.
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MendingFences
Love is a verb.
05:03 PM on 10/29/2012
As a responsible man and father, I resent that the decision was taken from me and my first child was aborted. My rights were taken away from me. In juxtapose, if a mother chooses to have a child while the father does not, what recourse does he have? None. Apparently, the movement for womens equality will not be satisfied until men are subservient to women. Good luck with that.
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Fein
Either everybody counts or nobody does.
06:10 PM on 10/29/2012
I'd love to hear your explination about having the Government force a women to bear your child against her will, risking her life and that of the Gov's agent if she resists, (and with no risk to you) has any relationship to the concept of 'Equality'.

Your 'donation' was refused. Get a life.
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MendingFences
Love is a verb.
12:16 PM on 10/30/2012
It has nothing to do with risk, only responsibility. I would never advocate the government forcing families to make life or death decisions. I am a libertarian at heart. Sad that you attempt to hurt me with your words. Peace.
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Mrmiklos
11:37 PM on 10/31/2012
OK, let's clear up some confusion...your "rights" were not taken away as you had no rights. You are not entitled to a right to tell a woman no when it comes to abortion...that's just how it is and should be as you are entitled to no authority over her body.
IF she chooses to abort..tough...now as to the issue if she chooses to have it and a man doesn't want it that's a different issue entirely, but please do not pretend your rights were violated because it's insulting
Also your silly notion that women want men subservient to them is insane...women do not want any such thing, it just seems many men confuse equality with superiority because they've been told most of their lives that women are the weaker sex and therefore not entitled to equal treatment...but that's false and you need to realize that
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MendingFences
Love is a verb.
12:22 PM on 11/01/2012
With rights come responsibilities but in the world of feminism, men are held responsible with no rights.
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MendingFences
Love is a verb.
04:56 PM on 10/29/2012
It is interesting to note that Norma McCorvey "Jane Roe" admits that she lied in court, claiming to have been raped, in order to create the sympathy necessary for the legalization of abortion. To this day, she has admits that she lied and now fights for the lives of the unborn. Legalized abortion was made possible by a lie.
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Mrmiklos
11:39 PM on 10/31/2012
Irrelevant, as she was not the only person involved...women should have the right to choose to abort, if getting that right had to come through a lie then so be it...better through a little lie than through violence.
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MendingFences
Love is a verb.
12:25 PM on 11/01/2012
That "little" lie created a great amount of violence on countless innocent lives. If you watch an abortion, you would witness a horrible violent act on a human being.
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Sarah Trickey
love, luck and lollipops. Narf!
01:15 PM on 10/29/2012
"I do not believe that just because you’re opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed. And why would I think that you don’t? Because you don’t want any tax money to go there. That’s not pro-life. That’s pro-birth. We need a much broader conversation on what the morality of pro-life is." - Sister Joan Chittister, a Catholic Nun
01:42 PM on 10/29/2012
It woudl be hard to feed, care for, educate and house a child that is allowed to be destroyed. Without the right to life there are not other rights (as important as they are.)
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Lady1genius
No se puede tapar el sol con un dedo
01:55 PM on 10/29/2012
Nice COP-OUT. What the good sister is saying is that to protect "the unborn" make sure the needs of the born are being met. That is 95% of what needs to be done.
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Mrmiklos
11:40 PM on 10/31/2012
There is right to life for fetuses or embryos because they cannot have one without obligating women against their will...which is enslavement and we will not permit it
04:44 PM on 10/29/2012
What a logical statement. The current batch of conservatives don't seem to be able to think logically.
12:54 PM on 10/29/2012
I am pro-choice for a number of reasons: The female is the ONLY one that risks her life to bear a child - not the male. No matter her age, she risks debilitating injury or death. If she gives birth,her body and life will forever be changed. If she keeps the child, it alters education and employment options, there are financial concerns, childcare issues, and perhaps she is dealing with this alone. While there may be guilt at the decision of abortion, there too is guilt at relinquishing a child. There are children in danger from those women that are bound to be unfit mothers. Then there are issues of drug-addicted babies, or those who will be born profoundly impaired. There are issues of ectopic pregnancies or mutliple births that cannot be carried to term. Just some of the issues here, certainly not all, and I haven't included "rape" issues here.

Truly, there is no man, no husband, no boyfriend, no father or priest or legislator, who has the right to make that decision for a woman. There is no instance in which women can make such profound decisions for male reproductive rights, so I see no logical way for males to make decisions for females. It is a personal issue for that woman and her conscence.

Abortion has always been a fact; it simply needs to be kept safe. Choice is actually simple. If you don't believe in abortion,do not have one.

SUPPORTING OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
04:48 PM on 10/29/2012
Great comment. Conservatives seem to think having a baby is just going to the hospital and giving birth. They seem to forget the 9 months the woman has to carry and care for the baby and herself, as well as the employment/education options, financial concerns, etc. In the case of pregnancy from a rape, the woman has to carry the child of a rapist for 9 months and therefore tell friends/family/coworkers that she was raped and that she'll be carrying the rapist's baby for 9 months.
09:44 AM on 10/31/2012
Excellent point!  If the woman is single, of course everyone will ask who the father is; one can only imagine the looks on peoples' faces when she says, "Oh, I don't know...it was just some rapist that broke into my home one night."  You'd think folks on the right might get a clue! 
 
GO VOTE - GO OBAMA!!!!
12:30 PM on 10/29/2012
BLOCK EVERY nominee so inclined!!!!!!!!!
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mybluedollars
12:04 PM on 10/29/2012
Bigger than abortion....it's YOUR RIGHT TO PRIVACY! Do Roberts, Alito, Thomas and Scalia believe in YOUR RIGHT TO PRIVACY??????

NO! VOTE for these people at YOUR PERIL! NO amount of money will save you!
11:49 AM on 10/29/2012
Roe, (Norma Leah McCorvey) has said that the greatest regret she has in her life is aborting the unborn child she never saw. She has had extensive counseling and actively participates in clinics to teach young women to make informed choices. I've heard her speak personally and she sheds tears 40 years later. Maybe their should be a different champion for this cause than Roe vs. Wade.
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Lady1genius
No se puede tapar el sol con un dedo
01:11 PM on 10/29/2012
Norma McCorvey was pregnant 3 times and had 3 children. The child she was pregnant with when she sued the state of Texas was already born before the case of decided. I don't know what you're blithering about. Do a little research. You're listening to a flake who wanted choice for herself, but now wants it taken from others.
01:36 PM on 10/29/2012
You are 100% correct Lady1genius. I am impressed, I have just started reading the HP and was intrested to see what types actually read and comment. More intellectual and more well versed than those at the washington post to which I accustomed. Kudos. Maybe I'll hang around the Huffington a while and give up on DC.
01:44 PM on 10/29/2012
Doesn't she still have a right to express her regrets and live her life without judgemental remarks like that?
11:43 AM on 10/29/2012
The actual roe vs wade decision was a pretty good one, unfortunately we moved away from it

The ruling was that 1st trimester abortions are protected federally, and the states would control it after that and make their own rules
11:06 AM on 10/29/2012
Roe vs. Wade is NOT just about abortion...in fact there is nothing in the ruling that discusses abortion directly. It is about a woman's right to PRIVATE medical care and access. Meaning after Roe vs. Wade was won - women no longer needed spouse or parental permission for birth control. A spouse no longer needed their husbands permission to have medical procedures and or the spouse/father could no longer make medical decision for his wife/daughter without her prior consent. Before Roe vs. Wade women would go in for a lumpectomy and before she woke up, the surgeon would tell their spouse it was cancer and ask if they wanted to remove the breast now or wait for another consult. Many times a woman woke up without her breasts because she wasn't allowed to make the decision for herself. So it's about PRIVATE ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE and not just abortion. That's a procedure but the legal case is about privacy. Unfortunately this article relates only to abortion. I believe and I hope if women truly understood whats at stake, they'd rethink their issues with this ruling. HIPAA will be impacted - doctors will be able to tell our spouses or fathers (if under age) test results etc. It's a nightmare and it takes society back to the dark ages.
04:07 PM on 10/29/2012
no, it had no effect on birth control law
05:38 PM on 10/29/2012
Um I'm going to go with you are wrong for $400. 1965 Griswald case determined by Supremes law prohibiting contraceptive choice violated this sacred right to privacy. 1972 law extended to unmarried couples and on the heels of Roe vs. Wade enforcing yet again rulings that there is a fundamental right to privacy that exists in between the lines of the Constitution - contraception aka "the pill" was made available to unmarried minors in 1874.
10:44 AM on 10/29/2012
Ok you holier-than-thou anti-choicers. You claim to care about children so much, how about you do this: Vote for legislation that will provide women with affordable prenatal care. Vote for legislation that will put money into social service agancies so that children can be removed from abusive parents. Vote for legislation that will improve the affordability of, and access to, healthcare for children. Support legislation that will make it easier for loving couples (even those of the same sex) who want to adopt. Support legislation that will improve the conditions of our schools. Nah I'm just kidding. I know you aren't going to do those things because you don't care about "children" at all. What you really care about is oppressing the rights of women.
01:46 PM on 10/29/2012
It is ingenous of you to assume that the people the believe in pro-life do not believe in, vote for and actual give of their resources and time to do just what you have described below. Why would you jump to the conclusion that those that take the time to be honest about what abortion is and the need to protect innocent life do not also care about people throughout their lives??
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HippieChick
Still thinking about tomorrow
04:59 PM on 10/29/2012
All one has to do is pay attention. Those who are most vocal about their right to interfere in the reproductive rights of all women are the same people who are most vocal about eliminating the nation's social safety structure ... especially food stamps.
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Meerrinhuff
10:20 AM on 10/29/2012
I look forward to the day that Roe is overturned. One of the delights will be the wailing and gnashing of teeth on this page, and on MSNBC. I might watch that network all that day if this happened.
11:10 AM on 10/29/2012
Because, God forbid, you'd be concerned with the thousands of unsafe, illegal abortions; or the millions of unwanted children. Sad.
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jkkFL
Opinions are not Facts.
12:32 PM on 10/29/2012
How many of the 400,000 available children have You adopted?
If your answer is none- you are part of the problem- Not the solution.
01:47 PM on 10/29/2012
That is not an excuse to allow this brutal procedure to exist.
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Meerrinhuff
02:16 PM on 10/29/2012
Where are you getting this statistic from? Because of abortion in the USA, it is actually difficult to find children or babies to adopt. Also, every anti abortion group has many people lined up to adopt babies if a woman will carry to term.
09:37 AM on 10/29/2012
Where are these pro-lifers when it comes to taking care of the children once they are born? If they are so pro-life, why do they disappear when life begins?
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lizinsarasota
11:00 AM on 10/29/2012
Ah, you identified why these "pro-lifers" are so charming. They don't give a rat's patootie about living, breathing children.
11:51 AM on 10/29/2012
I see them everyday in the stores and school lines, grandparents pickign up children that they are raising, they don't disappear, they just don't piss and moan about being a responsible adult. Something lots of folks could learn from.
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Lady1genius
No se puede tapar el sol con un dedo
01:48 PM on 10/29/2012
Let me be perfectly honest here... I raised three good children. I started very young, and now I'm finished. I have plans for the rest of my life that don't include raising someone else's children. Would I do it if I had to? OF COURSE. Would I "sign up" for that? Absolutely NOT. I raised my children to realize that if they had children, they better intend to raise them, not leave them on grandma's doorstep and go skipping off to lord knows where. You DO realize that the people raising their own grandchildren likely went wrong somewhere with their own, right? I mean, barring an unforseen and untimely death. I know that happens sometimes. I mean the ones whose children are off partying someplace while they leave the kids with grandparents. They failed to raise ADULTS and they are reaping what they sowed, having to deal with the lives and consequences their children ought to be doing, but aren't.
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Todd D Lawn care
07:58 AM on 10/29/2012
America...............becoming more and more like Iran everyday.