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Geoffrey R. Stone

Geoffrey R. Stone

Posted: November 5, 2007 05:10 PM

Uncle Sam on the Lam


In an op-ed in the New York Times on November 5, ("Uncle Sam on the Line"), former Attorney General John Ashcroft offers a seemingly reasonable case for Congress to grant immunity to the major telecommunications carriers accused of cooperating in allegedly unlawful government surveillance programs. In short, Ashcroft argues that the carriers should not be held liable for their actions insofar as they acted on the basis of "explicit assurances from the highest levels of the government that the activities in question were authorized by the president and determined to be lawful."

This sounds sensible. After all, the telecommunications companies were only doing what the government told them to do. What more could we or should we expect from them? It would be unfair and unwise -- perhaps even un-American -- to hold them accountable for cooperating with the government in a matter of national security -- even if the programs were in fact unlawful.

I have some questions for Mr. Ashcroft. First, what are the limits, if any, of his position? Suppose the government asked a private security firm to commit murder or torture or rape. Would they, too, be entitled to immunity because they acted on the basis of "explicit assurances from the highest levels of the government that the activities in question were authorized by the president and determined to be lawful"? Is there a difference in principle between these situations? Perhaps in Mr. Ashcroft's view unlawful surveillance is different because it's just not a sufficiently serious violation of individual freedom to expect private individuals and organizations to question the legality of the government's request. Perhaps Mr. Ashcroft would demand legislative immunity even in cases of murder, torture, and rape. I would like to know.

Second, what makes Mr. Ashcroft think that the government or the telecommunications companies could reasonably have believed in this situation that the government's surveillance program was lawful? As a matter of fact, the clear consensus among legal and constitutional experts is that Mr. Bush's surveillance program violated the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which expressly prohibited such conduct. Only a tiny slice of the legal profession believes that the Bush surveillance program was lawful, and almost all of them had been recruited into the Bush White House.

In plain truth, it is only the executive power fanatics like Vice President Cheney, David Addington (Cheney's counsel), and John Yoo (the author of the notorious torture memo) who actually believe that the president has the constitutional authority to disregard federal law whenever he thinks it would be useful to do so. This is an extreme, unprecedented, and irresponsible legal position. It is not "reasonable," and if the telecommunications companies consulted their lawyers, those lawyers should certainly have told them so. And if they are worth anything like what they are paid, they probably at least warned them that the program was, at best, of doubtful legality.

Moreover, even if the telecommunications companies were in doubt about the legality of the surveillance they were asked to carry out, what was the proper thing for them to do? Mr. Ashcroft seems to assume that patriotic Americans should give their government the benefit of the doubt and act compliantly. But it is not so simple. In a self-governing society that is premised on skepticism about the exercise of government authority, it is the responsibility of patriotic Americans not to blindly follow orders, but to question the legality of requests that seem on their face of doubtful legality. The real patriot does not dutifully murder, torture, rape, or spy merely because the government secretly whispers, "It's O.K. with us."

Third, Mr. Ashcroft complains that one of the reasons the plaintiffs are pursuing these lawsuits is to "force disclosure about the underlying programs." But why does Mr. Ashcroft assume that this would be "a bad consequence, not a good one"? He asserts that the plaintiffs simply want to "advance their own political or ideological disputes with the administration," at the risk of endangering our national security by "showing the world and our enemies sensitive secrets about how our national security agencies do their work." This is unfair and wrong at many levels. It is indecent of Mr. Ashcroft to attribute selfish "political or ideological" motives to the plaintiffs. What they are doing is attempting to enforce the law and the Constitution of the United States. Whether they are right or not on the merits, that is commendable and a service to all Americans. Moreover, there is no risk that this litigation will endanger the national security, because a host of evidentiary privileges protect against the disclosure of information that would in fact have that effect. The real concern of the administration in this matter, as in so many others, is to shield its own possibly unlawful conduct from public view.

Finally, I wonder precisely who Mr. Ashcroft thinks should be held accountable if this program was in fact unlawful? By aggressively asserting executive privilege, the state secrets doctrine, official immunity, and using the power of presidential commutation, this administration has worked tirelessly over the past six years to evade accountability for torture, rendition, unlawful surveillance, secret detentions, and who knows what other misdeeds. So, tell me, Mr. Ashcroft, if the telecommunications companies are granted immunity, who will take responsibility for these programs, if they are in fact unlawful? The answer, I trust, is No One.

 
 
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outnow
Ban the bomb
11:41 AM on 11/06/2007
When the Russians ran a jail system, Alexander Solizhenityn, the dissident writer, described the Soviet Union's network of prison camps a a "Gulag Archipelago." This was a jail system that swallowed millions of citizens - many never returned. These revelations were fuel for the Cold Warriors' self-righteous indignation.

The parallels between our present system and that of our allies in the GWOT are obvious. Extraordinary renditions, torture, and disappearances continue. Mr. Ashcroft undoubtedly wants immunity for himself and all concerned since these acts are war crimes under federal law, and, in some case, could carry the death penalty.

Attorney General John Ascroft announced the capture of Jose Padilla, a know terrorist who was exploring a plan to explode a "dirty bomb" on American soil. What Ascroft didn't talk about was the fact that information leading to his conviction was obtained by relentlessly torturing one man in the name of the United States who was abducted at Karachi Airport before Padilla's arrest. He was flown aboard a luxury executive jet to an interrogation center in Morocco, and, for eighteen months subjected to one torture after another.

The "Ghost Plane" has been used since 1997. Thousands of people have been subjected to CIA torture in a system including CIA airplanes, a network of jails serving as torture centers that stretch from Morocco to Syria to Kabul to Bangkok and beyond. This is a disturbing aspect of the GWOT that reaches to the highest levels of power in Washington, D.C.

We have gone on the dark side to fight terror with terror. But the ends do not justify the means when the cycle of violence only escalates and we surrender our own values which are the only thing that makes us better than "them."

Thank you for revealing the dark side of these damning tactics of dubious legality.
08:57 AM on 11/06/2007
Perhaps Ashcroft is still living at the time the Constitution was drawn up, but this is 2007 and Americans have been used and abused by government. Only 24% of us feel that we should shake our heads up and down when Bush speaks.
01:29 AM on 11/06/2007
Even in the military, you are strongly encouraged not to "Just take your superior's word for it".. it is every soldier's, marine's, airman's, sailor's responsibility and DUTY to know what a lawful command is. I would argue that if anything these big Telco's are 100x more libel than the lowly scapegoated grunts from Abu Gharib. Besides, QWEST figured out it was wrong, I presume the other Telcos had people at least as competent as one of their rivals.
11:22 PM on 11/05/2007
I wonder whether Prof. Stone's critique will ever make it to Mr. Ashcroft's ears -- if it does, I suspect it will sting worse than most.

After all, Prof. Stone is among the most respected faculty at University of Chicago's Law School, Ashcroft's alma mater.

It's a bit like getting a smack-down from your old high school principal. Ouch.
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SamEllison
I feel so clean!
10:42 PM on 11/05/2007
Former Attorney General John Ashcroft is looking to immunize one former Attorney General John Ashcroft. If you remember prior to Mr Ashcroft's hospital room heroics he and President Bush had to sign-off on this program every 45 days. Putting liability firmly in their laps.
09:57 PM on 11/05/2007
AT & T is headquartered in Texass. And it was promised by Bush/Cheney back in 2000 that it would be enabled by the FCC, when Bush took over, to make sure it could coral all the Bells back together And also be given control of the Internet through a system of bogus fees and charges at variable rates. It would be a communications "controller" for the Fascists "Decider"!
09:17 PM on 11/05/2007
I'm afraid to ask, because I've heard the old saying about asking if things could get any worse, but, what the heck: can things get any worse?
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WorkingClass
09:12 PM on 11/05/2007
The Telcos are guilty. That's why they need amnesty. George Bush is a criminal as is John Ashcroft. None of them will ever be brought to justice. So sad. To bad.
06:53 PM on 11/05/2007
'In short, Ashcroft argues that the carriers should not be held liable for their actions insofar as they acted on the basis of "explicit assurances from the highest levels of the government that the activities in question were authorized by the president and determined to be lawful."'

'In short', if GWB says something is 'lawful',
you really, *really* need to get more opinions.

You could always ask the Supreme Court. That could work.