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Jesus, Johnny Depp and Christian Terrorists

Posted: 12/13/11 04:57 PM ET

There is a copious amount of controversy surrounding a video that actor Johnny Depp has helped put out recently. Although, he doesn't sing on the video, he does accompany the band. The song has attracted the attention of a few fundamental pastors and christians all over the U.S. and is slowly making its way overseas. But, why all the controversy? What's the big deal?

The song is entitled "Jesus Stag Night Club." The lyrics drip with poetic metaphor and historical revision.

What I don't want to do here is analyze the validity of the lyrics. What I want to do here is critique the negative press that is being received and analyze Christianity in light of its current state and why Christianity no longer has the option to change (it must not simply seek a new face, or post-modernise its words, or fall into some hipster caricature), but must seek the critical kernel that remains within it and invest in a broader context rather than be self-referential.

One pastor who has gained a lot of mileage in his attack on this video. Pastor Paul Begley who is a self-proclaimed prophet from Indiana shares his critique here. Make sure you check this out for context.

French Social theorist Jean Baudrillard stated that "the image is evil." But what did he mean by this, because what he means by this, I think is what will help us understand about fundamentalism (I speak of fundamentalism as broad as people and include those who would not naturally include themselves; practically speaking, if any of us are pushed into a corner, our fundamentalism will show). But here I am specifically dealing with and responding to Christian fundamentalism and how they have really given Christianity a bad name by attacking people such as the band Babybird and actor Johnny Depp whom neither of them deserve such a response.

Let's take the example of a secretary who works for a car repair shop. He comes in everyday wearing a suit and a smile, and never gets angry at customers. In fact, for all intents and purposes, he is the perfect employee. Except one tragic error: He is not who he says he is. This is the true fatality that most of us succumb to: the vulgarity of Baudrillard's image. The secretary is itself a role one must fulfill. To be a secretary, (depending upon the company and their ethos) I am being general here, one must have certain typing skills, phone skills and a previous customer service experience to name a few necessities. But these are roles, they are not the person.

The role itself disregards the very essence of the person filling the role. Not to mention it demonstrates that this person cannot think for themselves, that they are somehow upholding the Zizekian notion of ideology (which is stuck in an inverse of the Hegelian Dialectic). Which is to say, that they defend, uphold and support an entire of system of thought (without question, even if that system is against what they believe) because they no know other way. Even if that systems is inhabited (or justified in and through) by necessary evils (which is a misnomer). It is the curse of Sisyphus who can't seem to stop rolling the falling object back up the hill. To break the cycle means to begin to chip away at the very identity that the ideology gives you.

In fact, even worse, is what the image supports, which is for a car company who prides itself in customer service is capitalism. Consumer-driven capitalism. Individualism in its most evil representation. Now, here is the irony for pastors like Paul Begley and those who think they are defending some metaphysical notion of Christ -- they are supporting the very systems they want to be seen attacking. In their hope to "evangelize the world," they are driven by their subjective individualism. Not to mention they counter the radical kernel within the message of Jesus which was to embrace the outsider (as they were) -- and in essence in their fiery zeal (sarcasm in tow!) marginalizes the very people they hope to reach. Much like the secretary, the fundamentalists here support a much bigger enemy, capitalism under the guise of faith. Which is not faith.

An ancient Jewish author told the story of a person who would come against God. He used the word anti-Christ. It was someone or something (for me its not a person, but rather any system in place) who would come to attack the very idea of God. One way to see God is one who supports and endorses the whole of humanity working together. One German philosopher (Hegel) defined the Holy Spirit as the Human Bond. If he was right, then the moment we attack one another, rather than the systems in place is the moment we (any person, a follower or not) become anti-Christs, oppressors, terrorists (ideological ones), and supporters of the very antithesis we are defending ourselves against. The point here is to remove the clothes and stop being the secretary.

 
 
 

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06:00 PM on 12/27/2011
Islamic Terrorists are cutting hands off of theives, beheading Christians, beating women. "But you better not draw a picture of Muha Mad!" But Christians get the same title from "journalists" because we get offended when somebody mocks our Savior? (2 Peter 3) (Job 17:2) So basically "Christian Terrorists" are Followers of Christ who cry in the wilderness like John the Baptist, practicing freedom of speech. The Bible commands us to weep over the abominations of the land, and TO STOP SINNING. "Christians" defending sin is like environmentalists dropping chemicals from the sky to save the planet by reducing the population. IRONIC. (Ezekiel 9:4) (Romans 6:1)
05:49 PM on 12/27/2011
I finally listened to that song. Rederick aside, why would a follower of Christ defend somebody who is speaking blasphemies about Christ? (Revelation 13:5-7) I realize Johnny Depp looks really cool, but Jesus commanded the Pharisees to clean the inside of their cups.
11:02 PM on 12/26/2011
I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.
1 Corinthians 14:5
10:49 PM on 12/26/2011
You are half way to truth, realizing the errors of Christendom, God will be the judge of unrepentant Christians and unbelievers, but you my friend think too highly of yourself (Romans 12:3) Let's pretend you are genuine, a believer of Christ, and you are angry about the ignorance you see around you, including in Christianity, what would be the correct way to vent that anger? Quoting scriptures, pointing out false doctrines, correcting with gentleness (Galatians 6:1) (2 Timothy 3:16) Your a confusing one for sure. What are your motives? Shock value, deception, self gratification through belittling others? OR do you just not understand the signs of the times? (Matthew 6:13) These are the end times dude, and coming with the territory is "christians" who don't get it, and are really just serving the devil. This is evident by "christians" supporting globalism, freemasonry, catholicism, sun worship, or being ok with indefinate detention of americans i.e. eradication of the constitution. Please see the big picture sir. The man is working on putting that "terror" title on the very people equipped to deter the spirit of fear, if you truely want correct doctrine, I suggest departing from shilling for the beasts cause. You are following your flesh, and you are a traitor.
10:18 PM on 12/16/2011
The only unforgivable sin is blaspheme. How quickly we forget the miracles and blessings we have and have been given. I tremble in fear for the things I have read on here. God have mercy on us all.
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05:49 PM on 12/15/2011
Green Fury: Thanks for sharing. Just for the record, I have immense faith in Christianity. No, not in its current state. Because for me it is a system that mediates/believes for us. Like a friend of mine recently stated: If you want to become an atheist, then go to church (Rollins). The reality is that no one actually follows Jesus anymore, but merely follows under the guise of following. What is following someone though? It is not a system. It is an intimate interaction. It is not a set of beliefs or ethics but rather an interplay of discourse, listening and responding - all out of the subject. For me this is the subversive kernel of christianity being subsumed by anything other than itself unfortunately...we must resurrect this
10:41 AM on 12/15/2011
lol Hey man, i know you hate Christianity and all, but there is no reason to call the Brother a terrorist.

You misinterpreting the bible; I wont say anything about it, because so many people called you out on it.

I highly Encourage you to read "2 Timothy 3" that verse is for you buddy. Keep searching sooner or later it will lead you to Christ, hopefully not too late. Stay Strong :3
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05:34 PM on 12/15/2011
greenfury: i have huge faith in the message of Christ, what seems to be the issue is the perverse system that clais his name. I am a follower of Christ. But what does a follower denote? Someone who is interacting with a human, not a system. Someone who is inhabited by an ethos rather a sublimate list of ethics or rules. To me the current landscape of what is called christianity is that which negates the message of christ. the right marginalize the left, and vice versa. and yet if we truly love our neighbours and enemies, then labels would be useless. but to do so, to restore that fragmented equilibrium means we must attack those things that are maintaining the illusion of a need for binaries....
10:31 AM on 12/15/2011
Question: How does a Pastor get labeled a terrorist. Answer: He lives in the NOW GODLESS AMERICA. The world has turned tragically dark in the final days. Jesus will be here very soon to remind the Godless people they missed the boat. Godless Parents= Godless children= Godless Grandchildren IT WON'T BE LONG Satan's run is almost Done!
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06:34 PM on 12/14/2011
MIKE21: Actually, if you go to the Pastor's Website, he specifically claims he is a prophet, do your research bro.
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03:42 PM on 12/16/2011
George, I'd rather run through hell in gasoline drawers than "Whaaatch" another one of Paul Begley's videos. I'm serious.
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06:33 PM on 12/14/2011
MIKE21: Wow. Your maturity and skills in argumentation really shine through and do immense justice to the christians you align yourselves with. I myself am an emergent christian author who because of this EXACT response/behaviour have major issues with the label. If you could actually argue a point that might be better, and I might engage, but this is very sad indeed.
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04:15 PM on 12/16/2011
Now, now. George, my hat's off to you, for not demanding sycophancy of your readers, and for engaging with the most critical of them. Not everybody who writes on these pages does so.
05:29 PM on 12/14/2011
soory george disagree hes a fabulous pastor which loves jesus christ learn whats going on with government n real hiddne news before suspecting others and judging negativley!
11:31 AM on 12/14/2011
The pastor never claimed he is a prophet. Ever. You are simply a liar.
Your use of Baudrillard and Hegel doesn't make you look smart buddy. The article is a piece of frivolous worldview. Like a spoiled boy, you call the pastor "terrorist", simply because you are intolerant. What do terrorists do? they threat to kill or hurt anyone who disagree with them. To exercise your stinky sinful worldview you will have to call millions and millions and millions around the World who Love God more than themselves, terrorists. But It won't stick. Personally, I couldn't care less if you or Johnny Deep vomit your garbage and your acid cinicism against the Savior. I let the dead bury their dead. Christianity as faith (not institutions or politics manipulating religion) did not came to appease you spoiled boy. Christ came to bring the Word. The Truth. He was the Truth. That is the Sword he was talking about. Nothing to do with war. He didn' came to bring any lovy dovy peace. He came to show how DIRTY mankind is. You will not find that in ANY religion. Is the Truth x all religions and the Truth x sinful hearts. So, your analysis of the "critique" is hilarious.
11:31 AM on 12/14/2011
You are simply intolerant. You can't stand that people don't like your friend's garbage. "what is the big deal"? don't vomit your belief sinful system on us. We do not want it. And we have the right to criticize any lyrics. All lyrics.Nobody mentioned any threat. This pastor was never aggressive toward the actor. "what is the bigggg deal"? right? get a grip. Like Jesus, real Christians couldn't care less about a "good name" for Christianity. "Good name" means relativism, appeasement, nobody tell me what to do, my truth is not your truth, sex with whoever or whatever, "harmony" with other systems, lets hug a tree. He is the Truth. U should write an article asking why John and the nut band spend time and energy to write songs like that. You want to do it? fine. We are not going try to stop you. It is not only our spiritual duty but is our right as citizens simply to criticize. Nobody is attacking the actor. It is our right to make a big deal of this without being call "terorists". Your effort to sound smart on this article is hilarious "zizekian", "Hegelian Dialectic" all that to tell all of us: "what is the big deal here? bunch of fanatics. shut up and sit down. terrorists !!"
Just go right to the point spoiled boy. Don't need to make all that dust of useless philosophical references simply to reveal your intolerance and sinful lifestyle.
11:31 AM on 12/14/2011
God bless Pastor Paul Begley for speaking out the truth in reference to the song discussed in this article. Pastor Begley staunchly defends the Word of God, and how this particular song is blasphemous towards Jesus Christ. Christians don't need to win a popularity contest to be accepted by the mainstream media, secular society, or any one else in that matter. God is holy, His only Son, Jesus Christ is holy, and those who wish to make light of that, or scoff at that, do so to their own demise. Christians who love Jesus Christ, have every humane and religious right to speak out against perverted songs such as this. One day when we least expect it, Christ will return for His people as He promised. Christians, who are largely ostracized by this society because of their faith in Jesus Christ, and their desire to obey Him as learned through the Word of God will one day be vindicated...
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07:25 AM on 12/14/2011
Shiri: Thanks for the thoughts. But let's unpack your notion of love, because it seems you speak of it as if it circular (as in it wraps back around onto itself, but yet you define who is worthy to receive it by how you interpret scripture. So in this is a direct contradiction of the very belief system you claim to be a part of. Let's use your definition of Love as Selflessness, which is pretty good - for me, love is both violent and meager. violent because it is all about self-death to the point of self-negation. Is this not the idea behind Paul's understanding of Jesus who 'emptied' himself, and is not the incarnation a God who empties himself, again its a cycle - a cycle of momentary self-negation which includes even the ideology we hold to so dearly. For me, Johnny Depp is a great example of a 'messiah'. Now, lets unpack that, because in the ancient Jewish world the worrd Messiah was more commonly used than it is now. So, one it was not a title of peculiarity. Two it simply signified someone who entered the scene and was there to change things (very simplistic definition, I know, purposefully so) - and in that light, a messiah is/can be anyone who challenges us to think differently about our ideology, who calls to us like a voice in the wilderness...we need more of that...not more people who attack the prophets...