Lou Dobbs doesn't care where they come from as long as they aren't from Mexico. Additionally Lou has suggested building walls around our schools so that students can't drop out.
To: Bob Herbert
The New York Times
Dear Mr. Herbert,
It is still amazing to me how people who are wise and insightful on most topics under the sun go all goofy when it comes to education. Goofy is you in today's column, "Clueless in America."
Consider "A large majority of the students showed that they had virtually no knowledge of elementary aspects of American history. They could not identify such names as Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson or Theodore Roosevelt." This appeared on the pages of your newspaper. Page 1. Right next to the major headline of the day: "Patton Attacks East of El Guettar." April 4, 1943. And these were college students.
The Committee of Ten reported that history "has never taken serious hold" on students graduating from secondary school. 1892. "History is bunk," said Henry Ford, something only an American could get away with.
A 1957 survey of American college graduates by Harrison Salisbury found that only 71% could name the capital of Russia, only 21% could name a single Russian author and only 24% could name a single Russian composer.
And ever since A Nation At Risk in 1983 (happy 25th anniversary in 6 days) people have pegged our economic future to the ability of 9- and 13-year-olds to bubble in answer sheets. Lousy schools are producing a lousy workforce, was the word of the day after ANAR. It was a very popular position as the country slid into the recession that cost 41 his second term. But by early 1994, your paper was running headlines like "America's Economy: Back on Top." Education critics didn't pay any attention. Almost precisely three months after the previous headline, IBM CEO, Lou Gerstner, took to your op-ed page with "Our Schools Are Failing."
This position achieved its height of ridiculousness on July 7, 1992 when Lamar Alexander said on the McNeil-Lehrer News Hour "For the country to change the schools have to change." Really. He actually said that and no one even snickered, at least not on camera.
It is horseshit.
It's always the same, something that led me a couple of years ago to write "Education's Groundhog Day" for Education Week. You will recall, I'm certain, that in Groundhog Day, the movie, the same day keeps happening over and over and only Bill Murray notices. It's like that with education reformers and, alas, the education media. As you say, some of us are pretty dopey, "but those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" (Santayana, and those who misquote Santayana are condemned to paraphrase him). The only thing that has changed since I wrote it, aside from a plethora of more absurd examples, is that I discovered that on September 20, 1956, over a year before Sputnik, the U.S. had a four-stage, satellite-capable rocket in the air traveling 13,000 miles an hour 862 miles about the earth after its first three stages fired. The fourth stage, which could have easily bumped something into orbit was filled with sand -- Eisenhower didn't want to offend the Russians.
First it was Russia. Then Germany and Japan. Now China and India. In the meantime, the World Economic Forum continues to rank the U.S. as the most competitive economy in the world. A skeptical person could be forgiven for questioning the link between test scores and the economic health of a nation -- and average test scores at that. After all, Japan went into recession and stagnation for 15 years and all the while Japanese kids continued to ace tests in international comparisons (if American and Japanese kids were the only two groups to take a test and the Americans scored higher, the headlines would read "Japanese Students Second; American Students Next to Last").
I am appalled at how the media simplfy all this and ignore relevant data such as the following: a piece on NPR (a medium that does better than most) recently stated that China's place in the economic sun was doomed to be short term because of the consequences of its one-child policy (recently renewed for another decade). If you think America is aging, look East, young man. An ever-increasing mass of elderly in China (Shanghai is already 20% over 65) will depend on an ever shrinking pool of workers.
Bill Gates' critique of the schools is just one more example of which there are far too many, of how when experts in one field make pronouncements in another, they often say very, very stupid things. Craig Barrett of Intel is perhaps the worst exemplar after Gates of this species.
Everyone emphasizes the need for skilled workers and many imply or state explicitly that we don't have enough. A recent study showed that we have three new scientists and engineers for every new science and engineering job and it has been noted that our science and engineering schools are full of foreigners for the same reasons our lettuce and grape fields are filled with foreigners: long hours, low wages, and little opportunity for advancement. Only a foreigner could see these conditions as a step up. Two thirds of new grads in science and engineering leave in 2 years (and you fret over 50% of teachers disappearing in 5). In fact, one science writer, Dan Greenberg, invented a new life-time position for scientists and engineers, Post-Doc Emeritus.
There are huge equity issues to be sure. In the most recent international reading study, if white American 9-year-olds were stacked up against the 39 participating nations, they would be 3rd, 5 points behind world leader Russia (which I don't believe and will be happy to explain if you're interested). Asian American students would actually finish ahead of Russia while blacks would rank 28th and Hispanics 25th.
But let's not confound the ethnic disparities with the performance overall.
In 1990, the education historian, Lawrence Cremin, succinctly took apart the schools and competitiveness assertion:
"American economic competitiveness with Japan and other nations is to a considerable degree a function of monetary, trade, and industrial policy, and of decisions made by the President and Congress, the Federal Reserve Board, and the Federal Departments of the Treasury, Commerce, and Labor. Therefore, to conclude that problems of international competitiveness can be solve by educational reform, especially educational reform defined solely as school reform, is not merely utopian and millennialist, it is at best a foolish and at worst a cress effort to direct attention away from those truly responsible for doing something about competitiveness and to lay the burden instead on the schools. It is a device that has been used repeatedly in the history of American education."
Sincerely,
Gerald W. Bracey
Alexandria, VA
Want to reply to a comment? Hint: Click "Reply" at the bottom of the comment; after being approved your comment will appear directly underneath the comment you replied to
Lou Dobbs doesn't care where they come from as long as they aren't from Mexico. Additionally Lou has suggested building walls around our schools so that students can't drop out.
Regarding dropouts in our educational system.
Herbert states "An American kid drops out of high school every 26 seconds." Doing the math shows that this statement equates to 1,212,923 dropouts every year.
From the US Census Bureau we can see that in:
2005, Grades 1 " 12 (Public and Private) had an estimated 49,130,661 students.
2006, Grades 1 " 12 (Public and Private) had an estimated 49,757,424 students.
This is an increase of 626,763 students from 2005 to 2006.
Yet the total estimated population growth in the US between 2005 and 2006 for 5-17 year olds is only 231,353.
2005: Population Ages 5 - 17 288,378,137 x 18.4% = 53,061,577
2006: Population Ages 5 - 17 299,398,485 x 17.8% = 53,292,930
So, from 2005 to 2006, 5 to 17 year olds increased an estimated 231,353.
Yet the student population increased an estimated 626,763.
Therefore we have added an estimated 395,410 5 to 17 year olds someplace.
But we already know that 1,212,923 students dropped out (a rate of 1 every 26 sec).
That"s 1.5 million kids misplaced. Where are they???
I notice the article did not address the High School dropout rate.
The article address the education levels of 9 year olds, which Herbert's article ALSO mentioned as notable. Then Herbert's article mentions how the education levels tank from there. How about one-third of American high schoolers drop out. About how the US has one of the highest dropout rates in the world.
This article seems to ignore those aspects of Herbert's column.
I wonder what "Hate America First" agenda this elite neocon has.
What Herbert is doing here is something that is oddly common among journalists (although more often conservatives because it serves their worldview) of claiming things are getting worse by citing statistics from a single time period. The most embarassing example I have seen of this was from a decade ago when the Chicago Tribune ran an article claiming that curriculum standards in English departments had decreased in the last generation. It gave a farcical account of standards at that time, and none about the standards from a generation before.
This idea of declining educational standards can be found in Erasmus' In Praise of Folly from the early 1600's, and if commentators are to be believedf it has all been downhill since.
In a candid interview via satellite from China, Olympic...
Update: Keith Olbermann had Rachel Maddow on "Countdown" Tuesday night to celebrate...
UPDATE: A day after Roseanne's blogs from below...
"How honest are we if we tell the truth most of the time &...
Obama's been to Hawaii. We're moving...
I've read the comments. I know what some of you think. Yawn. It's not a story. He's not...
LOS ANGELES — Barack Obama is getting praise from Nashville, courtesy of one...
The New York Times' Kit Seelye is backing up NBC's Andrea Mitchell, who reported on...
NEW YORK — The suspense didn't quite compare to the identity of "Deep Throat,"...
Turning conventional neuroscience on its head, new research suggests the...
USA Today reports that inventors, despite the clashing designs of airplanes...
Last year I praised Rebecca Taylor and...
NAPLES, Fla. — Tropical Storm Fay rolled ashore in southwestern Florida on Tuesday without...
Posted April 22, 2008 | 03:00 PM (EST)