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Is It Time for Southern Democrats to 'Walk Out on the Porch, Pee, Pull the Light Chain, and Go to Bed'?

Posted: 04/22/2012 9:06 am

These are soul-searching times for Southern Democracy.

Southern Democracy -- defined as entrenched regional rule -- is no more. Republicans now reign throughout most of the South. The best that Southern Democrats can hope for is restoring their party to competitive parity in a two-party system.

However, it takes a lot of faith to believe that Democratic restoration in this part of the country lies simply in refining the brand, re-organizing at the grassroots, and hoping that the Republicans mess up as the governing party.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure that Southern Democrats understand the seriousness of their situation, know whether they want to be practical players or progressive voices, can overcome the legacies of race and racism, or can repair the rift between Yellow Dogs and Blue Dogs. Even beyond these problems, looming strategic decisions at the national level could prove disastrous for the regional party in 2012 and beyond.

As might be expected, many of my fellow Democrats are experiencing extreme heartburn as our party struggles through unpleasant times. One of my Alabama friends (a self-described "Yaller Dawg" whose rural politicking goes back a half-century) recently sent me an email bemoaning the situation. He added that, if Southern Democrats cannot do any better than they are currently doing, "Maybe we should just walk out on the porch, pee, pull the light chain, and go to bed."

Therefore, we have come to my bottom-line question about the future of Southern Democracy: Is Southern Democracy dead? Or can the historic ruling party rise from trending demise?

Discomforting reality

The historical reality is that the Republicans have taken charge throughout most of the South; and they continue to expand their dominance through electoral victories, party switchings, and timely retirements among Democratic officials.

Even if the Republicans falter as the controlling regime of governance, I suspect that today's Southern voters would replace most vulnerable or failed GOP leaders with other GOP politicians rather than turning back wholesale to the Democrats. Some progressives are even suggesting that Democrats should start voting in Republican primaries, where they might exercise selective influence. Others suggest that a third party or independent movement is the way to go.

Trapped in historical partisan paradox

It seems to me that Southern Democracy is constrained by contradictory patterns of unfolding history. Long-trending realignment has seriously weakened Democrats as a competitive force; and their prospects for a competitive constituency seem to lie somewhere on the hazy horizon. In short, there is no quick and easy and sure recovery.

Southern Democracy is trapped, at least for awhile, in an historical paradox of partisan trends, a contemporary overlap that favors conservatism over progressivism. The most obvious development, of course, is that for the past few decades large numbers of realigning white natives have put Republicans firmly in control of Southern elections; and the GOP is currently reaping the benefits, in terms of governance, of this windfall realignment.

But that part of the paradoxical time warp is probably time-limited. Election 2010 reflected a long-unfolding realignment, undergirded by a massive windfall of native white Southerners shifting their party preference. That pool of potential switchers has likely been drained, limiting the possibility for much further reddening in the future.

Simultaneously, other less obvious changes, perhaps favorable to the Democrats, are taking place, particularly among younger and in-migrating Southerners. Demographic studies document an increasingly diverse Southern society; and public opinion surveys show a moderating of Southern attitudes across the spectrum of public issues. Younger Southerners and migrants from other regions will not be flaming liberals; but they probably represent a more moderate and attractive market for the Democratic Party in the long run.

The South thus is becoming less traditionally Southern; and tomorrow's South may listen to alternative candidates and consider different policies.

But that's little solace right now for Southern Democracy.

Short term -- muddling through

Most Yellow Dog activists prefer the loud-and-proud strategy, even if they are only liberal voices in the conservative wilderness. But they are not likely to force themselves through traumatic, definitive debates with whatever Blue Dogs are still around. They'll all just grouse among themselves as long as progressive issues resonate among the faithful and some Democrats get elected in a GOP-dominant region.

Actually, there seem to be few options nowadays for weathering the storm, other than re-branding, re-organizing, and criticizing GOP foibles. Yellow Dogs and Blue Dogs, ideological voices and practical politicians, beset by regional divisions and national pressures, may simply have to muddle through their predicament, fussing among themselves, and hoping for happier days in the future.

But muddling and fussing and hoping is not a long-term strategy. The survival of the Democratic Party in this region requires building an acceptable alternative if and when Southern voters start looking for different politics and better governance.

That is the topic for my next and last discussion about the future of Southern Democracy.

Author's Note: This is the seventh in a series of posts about the future of the Democratic Party in the South. The concluding post ("Will Southern Democracy Survive?") will appear here next Sunday.

 
 
 
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These are soul-searching times for Southern Democracy. Southern Democracy -- defined as entrenched regional rule -- is no more. Republicans now reign throughout most of the South. The best that S...
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PatWard
model for Rodin
08:25 PM on 04/22/2012
I did not see the religious angle mentioned in this article. It was perhaps mentioned in one of his other posts. The Democratic party has, I believe, a real opportunity to make serious gains in the south. LBJ handed the south to the Republicans with the civil rights legislation(and rightly so) back in the sixties. The choice now facing the southerners is an African-American or a Mormon. It should be very interesting.
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ArmyCSM
I live in a red state and it makes me blue.
03:47 AM on 04/23/2012
As someone who lived in Alabama for 20 years I agree and admit that I don't know the answer. I was still living there when President Obama was elected and I heard many raciest comments followed by the socialism, birth certificate, etc. I've also heard the "good" Southern Baptists describe Mormonism as a cult, but I've heard them say the say thing about Catholics too. If I had to guess, I would say turn out might be diminished; the *real) Baptists will mostly vote for Obama, the rednecks (rich and poor) will vote for Romney.
07:46 PM on 04/22/2012
For 100 yrs Republicans ran as Democrats in the south. Dems should just run as repugs. Moderate from within.
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demisfine
Often correct, NEVER right.
04:57 PM on 04/22/2012
Here's a suggestion - quit being Blue Dogs.
If the southern democrats are really just republicans, why SHOULD southerners support them???
Be PROGRESSIVE.
Behave like DEMOCRATS.
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tinarm
call me a proud FemaNazi according to Rush.
02:32 PM on 04/23/2012
A question that haunts me all the time is why is it that here in my home state now "Arkansas" do we usually elect a Democratic Governor, house and senate and then when it comes to national elections we just can't seem to do it, with the exception of Bill Clinton. My states doing considerably well, we have a few counties that are over 8% unemployment but my county is standing at less than 6% well under the national level. One main reason is we found a way to keep our public employees, we didn't get rid of hundreds of teachers, police officers, and fire fighters. It is a problem without a obvious answer as to how to get the people in my state to see how one party governs vs. another.
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demisfine
Often correct, NEVER right.
02:48 PM on 04/23/2012
Good for you!!
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isis
Job 39:5 - Who has sent out the wild ass free?
03:55 PM on 04/22/2012
The South is changing rapidly and becoming more diverse.
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Talossa
Liberal. Pro-Israel. Recovering atheist.
12:44 AM on 04/23/2012
Because of immigration, nothing else. White Southerners by and large will always be committed to the one-party-state model.
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isis
Job 39:5 - Who has sent out the wild ass free?
08:23 AM on 04/23/2012
True. If you do not fall in line in that society you get ostracized.
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parlimentMike
Terrorists keep you in fear
01:47 PM on 04/22/2012
It's nothing more than the Truman principle proving out. Why buy knock-off Republicanism when you can get a genuine Republican?

The Democratic Party was taken over and sold out by a generation of Leaders with a willingness to ignore the Peoples interests in a decade of legislative transactions trying to out corporate the Republicans.

For years we've been offered forced choices between Republicans and just a little Republican policy.

When America starts considering the policies they want from their government, they'll stop supporting the two parties of War Profiteering, Bankers, low wages and reduced benefits.
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OutToLunch
all hail the French & the Saunders...
01:39 PM on 04/22/2012
...and again I say, the only real solution is secession. At least we can save half of the country.

Time to cut the South loose. Cut loose the red states that get more federal $$ than the blue states, and yet cry about big government every chance they get; not realizing that if it weren't for the largesse of the government they love to hate, they'd be eating dog food and living in cardboard boxes.

Cut loose the red states that offer nothing but the highest levels of illiteracy and unemployment; and lead the nation in obesity. Cut loose the red states that have continued waging a stealth Civ il War on the rest of the nation.

What can Southern Democrats do, you ask Mr Browder? They can abandon a sinking ship and head North where, once the South has seceded and taken their oil interests with them, we can finally explore new industries like alternative energies. Head North, where we still consider education important, especially for competing in global markets. Head North, where women can control their own bodies, make their own decisions, and shape their own destinies.

The South has held the rest of the country back for far too long. We're like Siamese twins.....where one twin is weak and parasitic, and survives by sucking the healthy twin dry. In order to save the healthy twin, we need to separate it from the weak one.

The sound you now hear is me whistling Dixie goodbye....
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GrumbleJones
07:45 PM on 04/22/2012
That might work except for the reality that it's not a Red State Blue State thing...look at the electoral maps. It's a Red County-Blue County thing and most of the country is red, except for the largest urban areas, which makes the compelling argument that the struggle for America's soul is a Rural vs. Urban battle.

And let's not forget the Religious dynamic. Religious American's embraced the Republican Party as the party of God in this country. Obama was correct when he talked about Guns and Bibles...that is far more the truth than any of us want to accept.
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OutToLunch
all hail the French & the Saunders...
12:06 AM on 04/24/2012
But it is a red state/blue state thing. It's only at the local levels that red county/blue county means anything. A handful of blue counties scattered throughout the South doesn't make it (noticeably) less red. Texas remains a deep red state despite its blue pockets, as New York remains deep blue, with red counties upstate. The only national exceptions are the swing states, where red county/blue country really can determine elections.

to some extent, it's urban vs rural, but still within the North/South paradigm, at least IMO. I mean, there are rural places in upstate New York that don't compare to rural areas in the South.

just from a purely economic standpoint, the South is a drain on the rest of the nation. It takes way more from the government (and the blue states) than it contributes, in pretty much every single metric. And at least part of the reason for that is due to entrenched attitudes and regressive beliefs.

As far as religion, fanatics and zealots tend to embrace the GOP. They're also a large part of what's holding the country back. The Guns & Bible crowd want their own country anyway....I'm strongly suggesting we oblige them.
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JohnCocktosten
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07:45 PM on 04/22/2012
F&F!
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Trentonjordan
87 US cities and counting
01:34 PM on 04/22/2012
I don't see any future hope in the 'moderating' of Southern attitudes. Born of hatred and ignorance. Raised on hatred and ignorance, and governing on hatred and ignorance is what best sums up the South. I look at all the colleges in the South and wonder WTF happens to these kids when they graduate? Do they all migrate to the northeast, midwest, and western regions of the country? Because the South is as backwards and regressive of a region that you will find in any western DEMOCRACY in the world.
07:22 PM on 04/22/2012
So true.
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Steve Rockett
12:40 PM on 04/22/2012
I have faith in democrats in the south, but I think they need to hit rock bottom before they will rise up and take control. They need to experience the sting of republicans as they enforce abortion laws by arresting women for use of contraception and availing themselves of abortions. Perhaps they need to witness the right wing racism and hatred of gays in the form of torture and murder that goes unpunished. They need to see their children refused by colleges for backward beliefs in nonsense, rather than true scientific discovery. They need to see medical facilities close shop, because of underfunding and oppressive laws. They need to see their infrastructure collapse and pollution overcome their environment. Obama has protected them far too long. He needs to let them see the Bush Katrina's and the failure of republicans to fund emergency relief for tornadoes and hurricanes. Southerners need to see the brutal effect of republican policy as their elders lose medicare, Social Security, and their life's savings. Until then, we must endure their blind following of whomever is put forth by republicans, even someone whose religion is alien to them. Southerners, read the Book of Mormon.
12:27 PM on 04/22/2012
Speaking for THIS independent voter who up until Jimmy Carter called himself a Democrat,voted straight ticket Democrat, and since then has seen the Democratic party as I knew it taken over by a mob of Socialistic thinking LIBERALS who want a free ride through life, and will use any means to get it.
This party no longer represents the "working man" It represents the "TAKERS" in America, not the people who carry their own weight.
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minto
you know what they say about opinions...
09:52 PM on 04/22/2012
This is a good article about who pays and takes in our country:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/12/us/even-critics-of-safety-net-increasingly-depend-on-it.html?_r=1&gwh=6969361605C2C537B612593CE92637A7

Here is where the entitlement money goes in our country:
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3677

As you can see it goes to seniors and the working poor. That is who the Republicans want to cut off. So are you going to take away money from Social Security, Medicare, or food stamps for people who work but still can't feed their kids? Those are the options.
10:02 PM on 04/22/2012
Nice try Sport, but your 'facts" are in error, and your efforts to use the internet for obamas demolition of the constitution and America fell flat.
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minto
you know what they say about opinions...
10:28 PM on 04/22/2012
It is interesting that you dispute my facts and you don't add any facts of your own. I'm not sure what Obama is doing to the constitution when these entitlement programs have been law for decades.

You should read this article by a speechwriter of George W. He talks about how extreme Republicans have gotten lately.
http://nymag.com/news/politics/conservatives-david-frum-2011-11/

Here are some facts about how Regan and the two Bush's messed up America and you can't even blame it on the Congress of the time because they actually saved money from what those presidents wanted to spend
http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
http://zfacts.com/p/57.html
08:55 AM on 04/23/2012
With a 50 million dollar election war chest to pay people like you to present the "FACTS", to the gullibale public who will accept half truths and outright lies, I probably could quote all the "FACTS" as fast as my employer could print them.
11:40 AM on 04/22/2012
Keep it ridiculously oversimplified, emotional, and stupid, and the Republicans just might win.

Wisdom is passed through nonsensical pamphlets distributed at NRA gatherings, enshrined in patriotic and religious symbolism. Jesus is on our side. Ayn is good and Keynes is bad, case closed.

Faith based politics is the norm because thinking is hard. When Republicans still believe the biggest lie of all, that they are the party of small government, how can you expect to disabuse them of all the other lies they believe in? "

Faith is believing things not justified by reason. If it were justified by reason, it wouldn't be faith."

When citizens insist on voting morality rather than reason politicians use social ostracism to get their votes. Ex: You are not a patriot --You are not a good Christian --Use of racism. Abortion, prayer, 10 commandments in courthouses, NRA, homosexual bias will always win out over good sense in our bible belt.

When the facts are obvious that they are voting against their own best interests peer pressure prevents them from going against the herd. They are too cowardly to face the facts; they have no choice but to resort to faith to justify their idiocy.

The Republican Party is scared. Historically the party of business, of the elite upper classes, the GOP fears democratic political domination by the lower classes so they they partnered with Christian Fundamentalism to gain votes. They had to divert the sheople from the facts.
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04:49 PM on 04/22/2012
Brilliantly stated!
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OutToLunch
all hail the French & the Saunders...
05:30 PM on 04/22/2012
On its face, it's truly one of the stranger set of political bedfellows, the marriage of the wealthiest 1% - the moneyed Northeast elite, Wall St and Big Business - to Southern fundies and religious zealots.

The GOP elite have courted the religious right for years since, as you said, they don't have enough votes on their own. And they court 'em hardcore in election years. Afterwards, I admit to a certain satisfaction when, without fail, the Republican Powers That Be promptly kick the fundies to the curb (just ask David Kuo from GWB's Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives).

Of course, religion IS Big Business, be it the Catholic Church or the megachurches and assorted snake oil peddlers of the South.

It's also why we see ALEC so focused on Voter ID laws. The fundamentalist vote may not be enough anymore so they'll try and suppress the (Democratic) vote wherever possible.

Watching some of these dynamics play out via Mitt Romney has been interesting: he embodies the 1%, is a fundamentalist in his own right, yet the Christian fundies don’t like or trust him (not to mention their views on Mormonism).

Turnout is always key in elections, but Dems face another hurdle this year: the new Republican Voter ID laws in swing states. If the GOP successfully suppresses enough of the minority vote, and the young and student voters - a very real possibility IMO - it could decide this election.
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Talossa
Liberal. Pro-Israel. Recovering atheist.
12:49 AM on 04/23/2012
I had a professor at Marquette who made the interesting observation that the GOP has always, at every stage of its history, been a coalition of big business and religious fundamentalists. In the 1850's, they were formed by Northern business interests who wanted to abolish slavery for economic reasons -- they wanted cheap labor in the South -- and by religious groups who wanted to abolish slavery for Christian reasons, holding that God made every man free. And they wanted to 'force their religion' on White slaveholders.

And today, of course, well, we all know worship of Mammon and worship of God are still the two pillars of GOP identity.
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philhellene
Far Left and Proud of It!
11:40 AM on 04/22/2012
It is not that the South changed; the two political parties switched their basic philosophy about the relationship between the citizen and government sometime in the late 19th/early 20th centuries. It took a few decades for the South to switch sides only after the GOP made a concerted effort to win them over and the Dems definitely/openly came down on the side of civil rights.
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OutToLunch
all hail the French & the Saunders...
05:37 PM on 04/22/2012
that's exactly right. The South has always been the South; the only change has been who's represented them at any given time. I don't see much difference, culturally or ideologically, between when the Dems ruled and the GOP that now represents it.

if anything, I'd say the GOP has made it worse. I don't think the South, collectively, was as uneducated, as underemployed, and as morbidly obese under the Democrats. I mean, there's been a wholesale dumbing down of America anyway over the past few decades....let's just say that the South was hit particularly hard.
07:50 PM on 04/22/2012
Yes, southerners are racist!
GHarry
Kitty wrangler
11:17 AM on 04/22/2012
Southern Democrats have only themselves to blame for not standing up to Republicans 30 years ago when the Reagan economic lunacy began to sweep the nation. Trouble is, most Southern Democrats are Democrats in name only. They tend to be authoritarians and dogmatists -- they fit in better with Republicans and tend to act and think like Republicans. So they quicky rolled over on their backs and made nice-nice with the GOP's raw-capitalism-is-God juggernaut. Another big factor in the current craziness now loose in this country is not often recognized: The decisions decades ago to allow home-schooling in most states. Since then millions of Americans have grown up being taught all kinds of nonsense about economics, religion, history and apparently climate change. Many of these folks literally don't know how to think, how to apply reason to everday situations and to political decisions. Instead they have been taught to rely on Medieval prayers and other superstitious practices. Now these things have come back to haunt us and America is rapidly losing its capability to remain a modern nation, much less a superpower. If a Republican is elected president in November, and the Senate also falls to the GOP, the end of America as a global economic power will come quickly.
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philhellene
Far Left and Proud of It!
11:33 AM on 04/22/2012
"home-schooling"

Teaching, a profession where you are required to have at least a four-year degree, encouraged to go back to school to maintain/improve your skills, and constantly monitored to ensure your ability and expertise

Then, all of a sudden, anyone who can reproduce has these same abilities and qualifications. Madness run rampant.
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wikwox
So there I was, playing the piano....
10:40 AM on 04/22/2012
Offers nothing except to note that Dems are on the run in the south. The south remains at war with the north even if the north doesn't care, the south also remains not only different but antagonistic to the rest of the country. Poor people and poor government abound in the south, they take in far more from the federal government than they pay in and yet claim to hate "big government". Is the problem the southern democrat, or the south itself? I suggest the latter and that short term there is no solution as the south races ever farther to the right.
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camelias and sweet tea
Small drinking village with a shrimping problem
11:14 AM on 04/22/2012
faved from S.C. already your fan
11:49 AM on 04/22/2012
Wikwox: Well said. As a lifelong Southern Democrat I am more worried about what the Republican Party has become here in the South than my Party. And, what they are doing to the South.
I wonder why anyone that cares about his or her family would want to move here. Yet, we need you, even if you are a moderate Republican; if any still exist?
We are not just racing farther to the right; we are racing towards third world status and seem proud of it.
You, in a few words described my South much better than the wordy professor.
Are you from here?
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smit9187
Truth Regulator
09:56 AM on 04/22/2012
Trying where I am to be a part of the rebuilding of the party. Have you discussed the politics of local officials still running on Dem ballots, but voting Repub in statewide/national elections? This is where the battle will be drawn, I think.
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Devil Dog 40
10:04 AM on 04/22/2012
I am thinking that putting Republicans up under the Dem banner in these states is the underhanded way the GOP has gotten so far. They get in then turn on a dime and the next thing you know the state house is voting to strip you of everything and hand it over to business.
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camelias and sweet tea
Small drinking village with a shrimping problem
11:15 AM on 04/22/2012
I sooo agree faved...They rig the elections this way all the time.
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LiberalDemIda
You can't spell "Conservative" without Con.
01:05 PM on 04/22/2012
Geez. Can't the Republicans just run on their policies and platforms instead of rigging the elections for corporate power??