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Posted: August 20, 2009 02:00 PM

At Sen. DeMint's Town Hall: Lies, Damn Lies -- and "Jewish Spokesman" Ben Stein

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Today I managed to attend one of the town halls sponsored by a key critic of the Democrats' health care reform, Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina. Well, I wasn't there in person, only in spirit -- thanks to a live web broadcast starting at noon via WSPA-TV. They covered his second town hall of the day, as he stood on a platform outside the Beacon Restaurant in Spartanburg.

The crowd was almost universally supportive, even worshipful, with one attendee hailing him for being considered the most conservative senator of all, and another urging him to run for president (he said he was "too smart" for that). The lies and misinformation that came both from the crowd and the stage probably exceeded what many might have imagined. And DeMint denounced the one person who pressed him with a tough question, saying she had come "fully" loaded with "Democratic talking points."

The same thing happened earlier in the day at his town hall in Greenville, when a woman raised some critical questions. DeMint referred to them as "talking points." Don't expect him to be criticized on Fox, a la Barney Frank, for "putting down" an attendee.

Also at Greenville he referred to the suspension of the cash for clunkers programs and asked, "what if the government had to suspend all surgeries'?

Here are some of the highlights of the Spartanburg town hall.

  • DeMint said that if the Democrats' plan goes through "hundreds of millions will lose Medicare" coverage.

  • One guy said insurance companies are NOT making big profits--only like 6% --and Obama was telling lies about it. DeMint agreed that profits not excessive.

  • DeMint said "non-partisan" analysts agree "a hundred million" will lose insurance at their jobs under Obama plan.

  • A woman quoted "Jewish spokesman" Ben Stein as tracing the decline of America to taking prayer out of school. She declared that America was a "Christian" nation. DeMint said, "I can't add anything to that."

  • Another woman said she had a relative in London "who is dead because of national health care." And willing to document it.

  • When a questioner said that the Democrats wanted to cover illegals, DeMint said it sure looked that way and would no doubt happen if not checked.

  • A man said he wanted an ethics probe of David Axelrod, but did not say why. DeMint said a real concern but didn't want to get into it because "I am not partisan."

  • Finally, a woman stood up and politely asked why he continually put down government programs while also backing insurance companies. He quickly accused her of coming "loaded" with "Democratic talking points" as the crowd hooted.

DeMint closed by thanking the attendees for showing that they backed "taking back the government" -- and that he would try to help them get it back. He urged them to send letters to the editor, call Democratic congressmen-- or start a blog.
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Greg Mitchell's latest book, his ninth, is "Why Obama Won". He is editor of Editor & Publisher magazine.

 
 
 

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Today I managed to attend one of the town halls sponsored by a key critic of the Democrats' health care reform, Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina. Well, I wasn't there in person, only in spirit -- th...
Today I managed to attend one of the town halls sponsored by a key critic of the Democrats' health care reform, Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina. Well, I wasn't there in person, only in spirit -- th...
 
 
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10:33 AM on 08/21/2009
I am utterly dismayed to see how the far the GOP has sunk into fascist rhetoric. Jim Demint serves in the highest elected Republican office in the land, US Senator, and is comparing Obama to Hitler, the USA to Khomeni's Iran, all during a time of war. Now, when the very few left loons cried conspiracy over Bush causing 9-11, I defended Bush and said those who would spread the lie that Bush demolished the twin towers are guilty of sedition, after all it was a time of war. But, compared to the rhetoric from the highest republican leadership in the land, the demolition conspiracy loons seem as tame as teletubbies. Demand censure at a minimum for those spewing seidtious lies saying Obama is going to kill old people, saying Obama is a Nazi, saying Obama is not the legitimate president because he is Kenyan, demand action against GOP senators like Demint. If we patriotic Americans wait until the right wing mobs take to the streets with guns, it will have become too late and America will have to suffer through the bloodiest civil war on planet earth. Its time to prove the neocons wrong, and prove that liberals do have a backbone.
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05:18 PM on 08/21/2009
Unfortunately, the comedy that is history teaches us that if you suppress the fascist, he thrives. So it is sadly necessary to wait until they rise up armed, and then to put them down like dogs. Don't worry, the civil war won't start next week. It's almost football season.
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09:48 AM on 08/21/2009
is this a trascript of a real town hall, or a fictional movie script....maybe it's from Inglorious Basterds...hmmmm
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Bude
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09:38 AM on 08/21/2009
If you look at the highlights, I don't believe he told the truth once. What's with that?
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05:21 PM on 08/21/2009
If you look at anything he ever said on the record, you can only find one instance of DeMental telling the truth: when he said he was going to "cause pain" during debate over health care.
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09:02 AM on 08/21/2009
As a SC I am embarrassed that this fool is from our state...apparently we spawn fools here in government! And personally, I am sick of all of them! We need to clean house and start over here! I agree that DeMint(ed) should be slapped silly for lying to the public instead of having a legitimate discussion. WHY LIE if you really believe you have a better plan? Because YOU DON'T! You have discredited yourself long ago! NO MORE DEMINT(ED)! You and Sanford and Graham can all get on the same slow boat.
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nateroth
12:36 PM on 08/21/2009
Isn't he bearing false witness?
09:01 AM on 08/21/2009
And...Wealthy Republican supporters are understandably upset because the gravy train is over. However, for those individuals who support the Republicans who are not wealthy, please tell me what they have done for you? Open your eyes! You have been manipulated for years and lied to for years. Yet you still fervently support them. The Republicans proclaim the role of protectors of family values. Do any of you read or watch the news???? There is more deception and promiscuity in the Republican Party than anywhere. Im sure you are all saying...but Bill Clinton did....and yes, he did. However, the difference is that Clinton NEVER went around judging others. Republicans lie, committ adultery, get caught in bathrooms eliciting gay sex; yet they have the unmitigated gall to say they are the party of family values. GET a grip.
11:00 AM on 08/21/2009
Here's a video of a republican who deceived the American public when she walked out on the national stage. The pictures on the video prove the deception.

http://palingates.blogspot.com/2009/07/sarah-palins-pregnancy-is-hot-topic.html
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09:00 AM on 08/21/2009
A yokel.
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Bude
My Brain Hurts!
08:52 AM on 08/21/2009
According to a public opinion poll released on Thursday, 77 percent of Americans feel it is important to have a "choice" between a government-run health care insurance option and private coverage.
08:46 AM on 08/21/2009
He is from South Carolina. I am from Georgia. Just let me say, in both states Republicans have a stronghold. For some reason, unbeknownst to me, religious organizations flock to the Republicans. These groups truly believe the Republicans are the Party of God. There is absolutely no reasoning with these people. They believed all the lies from the Bush/Cheney years.When the wealthy received tax cuts and the middle class took on more of the tax burden, they did not have a word to say. One of the reason, I can not be a part of organized religion anymore is that these people are crazy. I wonder "What Would Jesus Do?" if he had to make a choice about helping those with no insurance. Would Jesus snub them and reward the rich insurance companies?? That is not the lessons I learned from the Bible. It is pure and simple hypocrisy and greed. Clearly, he has no idea what goes on in Iran. The leaders lie to the people in Iran; the leaders suppress those who challenge them; the leaders demand that everyone believe as they believe. Excuse me for being a Southerner and dismissing the Honorable Mr. DeMint, but he and the Republicans are the ones who share a striking resemblance to the repressive Iranian regime.
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DeBartolo
10:49 AM on 08/21/2009
your post is 100% ACCURATE....in those states if your not baptist and republican...your an inferior human. Democratic HATE is PREACHED in pulpits all over the south
07:43 AM on 08/21/2009
It really looks like the average "ordinary" Republican must have Stockhom syndrome. How else can you explain the continued support by a group of people who are obviously victimized by their own masters? The Republican leadership constantly terrorizes its "base" with lies and then uses their fear to bully them into political action that clearly will harm them economically, socially, environmentally, you name it. It is revolting to watch.
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09:33 AM on 08/21/2009
Your analysis of these people having Stockholm Syndrome is very interesting. It defies logic that middleclass and working class people are standing up for insurance companies at the expense of friends, relatives and neighbors who have no/inadequate coverage.
The insurance companies are notorious for raising rates and co-pays and denying claims, etc., yet these people want to be complacent and object to alternatives that would benefit more them and others.
Why would people decide to defend their "oppressors"? Either they do have Stockholm Syndrome or they are motivated by a mercenary or racist impulse because they don't want illegal aliens, i.e. Mexicans covered and they don't like the idea of a black President "stirring things up" to defeat the status quo.
09:58 AM on 08/21/2009
Oh, but if our side even whispers these ideas we are attacked for "playing the race card." We must be "reverse racists" (like that is a real phenomenon). I actually think you are closer to the truth than my idea, but every now and then I try to be generous and find SOME other, less icky reason for people acting like Republicans. Maybe they were dropped on their heads as babies? Rejected by their mothers? Not allowed to suck their thumbs or play with opposite-sex toys? I just keep hoping that Republicans aren't just heartless fiends with stupid followers. Sigh.
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09:51 AM on 08/21/2009
AGREED!!! nice one.....the town hall ideeocy that took the cake for me was when an 'ordinary' blue collar guy was standing there, neck veins bulging, face red, screaming over and over to the politician on the stage: (wait for it) "CORPORATE TAXES ARE TOO HIGH!!! CORPORATE TAXES ARE TOO HIGH!!! "


I mean, come on.....how stoopid are we all supposed to be???
07:34 AM on 08/21/2009
DeMint closed by thanking the attendees for showing that they backed "taking back the government" -- and that he would try to help them get it back.

I really think this response went over the head of many. My question is who is he trying to take back the country from? If they really thought about it, it can't be policies because the majority of the policies, debts and regulations we are living with today are policies the reps put in place. I can only surmise that he is referencing taking the government out of the dems hands and placing it back in the reps. Nothing this man or other reps are saying addresses the needs of the people. They have taken the role of enablers of promoting lies, hate and continuing ignorance. They fail to elevate themselves above the fray with truthful argument or give sound solutions to bring resolve. They strive to build apathy among the knowing in hopes of dashing their spirit to fight for what is right or to vote. They relish in deceit for the sole purpose of trying to "take back the government" for self not the betterment of the country or its people. The game continues to make the current administration a failure at all costs.
12:09 PM on 08/21/2009
He has delusions of grandeur.
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05:24 PM on 08/21/2009
He has delusions of competence.
01:00 PM on 08/21/2009
The things is WE have to be diligent in putting strong candidates out there, WE have to remain critical in our thought processes, and WE have to consistently have our people's backs once we get them elected.
mamalisa38
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07:09 AM on 08/21/2009
The Republican are morally bankrupt. Working hard to screw the American people, as usual. We have needed health care reform for decades. For profit health insurance is immoral. The only way to maximize profits is to raise premiums and deductibles and deny claims. The top ten insurance executives earned $ 85.6 million in 2008 and the top ten drug company executives earned $199.4 million, plus profits for shareholders. Outrageous.
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06:42 AM on 08/21/2009
If the media would stop paying attention to these obviously staged and stocked events, they would be nothing but a small number of fringe people getting together to talk to themselves.

These events are not real. They should not be given much coverage. I doubt they are swaying the opinions of more informed and rational people. It is just so much public masturbation.
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06:06 AM on 08/21/2009
Ahahahahahha!!!! "I am not partison".

That is the most ironic statement I think I've ever heard. Jim DeMint.... not partisan????
It boggles my mind, the garbage that comes out of the mouths of these hypocrites!
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HeresaClue
Grrrrrrr.....
05:02 AM on 08/21/2009
Moron, only 52 million people are on medicare. Don't senate ethics panels frown on senators lying to their constituents?
03:51 AM on 08/21/2009
So how do we deal with BS like this?

I mean it's not funny anymore... it's not small thing when a representative is blatantly lying, distorting and misleading the public... shouldn't that be an issue for the ethics comittee. When does something go beyond being a matter of opinion to being a blatant lie and require an ethics review. I think Senator Grassley should be under an ethics review for lying to the public right now as well.
07:58 AM on 08/21/2009
Randi Rodes (formerly of Air America) proposes from time to time that after a politician is sworn into office that everything they say publicly after that should be considered testimony and subject to perjury laws. The politicians (under her system) would be free to say anything they want, but if they didn't want to go to prison they really would be better off just shutting the f#*@k up!