John McCain's Gambling Problem -- and Ours?

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Posted July 7, 2008 | 11:48 AM (EST)



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The surprising Time magazine piece this week about the gambling habits of John McCain (craps) and Barack Obama (poker) continues to reverberate, with McCain's much more avid and cash-expending pursuit drawing most of the attention.

A diarist at DailyKos is even probing whether McCain has ever filed the proper federal tax forms for gambling profits and losses. And Noam Schieber comments today at the New Republic's The Stump blog on McCain's visits to the crap tables in Vegas: "A few thousand dollars at a time? Wow. That's more than borderline unseemly, I'd say -- easily several hundred thousand dollars over a period of 5-10 years if McCain plays regularly. It's certainly a far cry from the $1-ante games Obama played in Springfield."

The Michael Scherer and Michael Weisskopf article at Time contrasted McCain's high-stakes and risk-taking gambling with Obama's cautious, cerebral brand, practically inviting readers to consider how this might play out when one of them is in the Oval Office. "He clearly knows that this is on the borderline of what is acceptable for him to be doing," says a Republican who has watched McCain play. "And he just sort of revels in it."

It's not exactly a bolt out of the blue -- as long ago as the 2000 campaign, Maureen Dowd was joking about the Bush men staking out the craps tables in Vegas to catch McCain in the act -- but still intriguing.

This is not exactly my area of expertise, though I have been to Vegas three times in the past two years for conventions, during which I played the slots in the casinos for about a half-hour total -- while winning two $75 jackpots on the machines at the airport!

You may have read the Time piece already so here is an excerpt from an earlier Connie Bruck piece in The New Yorker, May 30, 2005:

The moment the car stopped at McCain's hotel in downtown New Orleans, he set out at his usual fast clip for Harrah's, across the street. McCain is an avid gambler. Wes Gullett, a close friend who worked for McCain for years, told me that they used to play craps in Las Vegas in fourteen-hour stints, standing at the tables from 10 a.m. to midnight. "Craps is addictive," McCain remarked, and he headed for the fifteen-dollar-minimum-bet tables. At the most obvious level, the game is incredibly simple -- players rotate turns throwing the dice, and you either win or lose depending on what number comes up. But McCain's betting formula makes it much more complicated. "Uh-oh!" he cried, as a player accidentally threw the dice off the table. "This is a very, very superstitious game," he said.

And here's an excerpt from the Time story:

In the past decade, [McCain] has played on Mississippi riverboats, on Indian land, in Caribbean craps pits and along the length of the Las Vegas Strip. Back in 2005 he joined a group of journalists at a magazine-industry conference in Puerto Rico, offering betting strategy on request. "Enjoying craps opens up a window on a central thread constant in John's life," says John Weaver, McCain's former chief strategist, who followed him to many a casino. "Taking a chance, playing against the odds." Aides say McCain tends to play for a few thousand dollars at a time and avoids taking markers, or loans, from the casinos, which he has helped regulate in Congress. "He never, ever plays on the house," says Mark Salter, a McCain adviser. The goal, say several people familiar with his habit, is never financial. He loves the thrill of winning and the camaraderie at the table.

Only recently have McCain's aides urged him to pull back from the pastime. In the heat of the G.O.P. primary fight last spring, he announced on a visit to the Vegas Strip that he was going to the casino floor. When his aides stopped him, fearing a public relations disaster, McCain suggested that they ask the casino to take a craps table to a private room, a high-roller privilege McCain had indulged in before. His aides, with alarm bells ringing, refused again, according to two accounts of the discussion."

I love this quote from Anthony Holden, the well-known British poker-player and writer, from a recent article in the London Telegraph: "We poker players don't call poker gambling. It is a game of skill. Craps is an absurd game of luck. You may have thrilling short term wins but only madmen play craps."

But will all this attention now "scare the craps" out of McCain?

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Greg Mitchell's new book is So Wrong for So Long: How the Press, the Pundits -- and the President -- Failed on Iraq.

 
 

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- cabbile See Profile I'm a Fan of cabbile

Obviously if a republican gambles then the terrorists have won.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 AM on 07/09/2008
- rjcrane See Profile I'm a Fan of rjcrane

The more important issue here is whether or not McCain filed the appropriate tax forms to report any winnings and if not, than he is potentially a felon.

RJ Crane, topplebush.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 AM on 07/08/2008
- JackieinCA See Profile I'm a Fan of JackieinCA

This is a lot more of a problem for McCain than him being a risk taker. One of the articles states that he likes to play because he "loves the feeling when he wins." But a review of McCain's tax returns that he has released to the public shows no winning from gambling reported at all. The IRS tax code is clear - if he has ANY winning they have to be reported (and not even netted against losses - losses are reported elsewhere on the tax return.) So does this mean McCain is guilty of tax evasion? That is how the government took down Al Capone. Will we see McCain fall the same way?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 AM on 07/08/2008
- gage See Profile I'm a Fan of gage

George Bush is a poker player. Hey, that means Obama is just like Bush, right? It makes about as much sense as any of this other long-distance psychoanalysis.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 07/07/2008
- Sam1 See Profile I'm a Fan of Sam1

To quote, "He clearly knows that this is on the borderline of what is acceptable for him to be doing," says a Republican who has watched McCain play. "And he just sort of revels in it." This what has been said about him during his days at the Naval Academy where he graduated itn the bottom 2% for achievement and in the top 2% for demerits.
I think that McCain would be to easily manipulated by dares and accusations of whimping out by playing it safe. This, I got away with it attitude, is way to dangerous for a President. I would much rather have a President that "knows when to hold 'em and knows when to fold 'em."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 07/07/2008
- DanteForClinton See Profile I'm a Fan of DanteForClinton

here we go again with the old style politics. I have no idea who I'll be voting for, but when I see such a disconnect between the message, the messengers and the candidate I get ill.

Why do people play this silly game?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 07/07/2008
- Susan60 See Profile I'm a Fan of Susan60

You have no idea who you are voting for? Seriously? These two candidates are about as far apart on every issue imaginable and you have no idea who you are voting for? If you aren't going to vote on issues that matter to you maybe these kinds of articles are written exactly for people like you. Maybe they would quit writing silly articles about poker and who people would like to have a beer with if people knew more about the issues of the election. If you don't know who you are voting for at this juncture, do us all a favor and stay home. It's obvious you aren't paying attention.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 07/08/2008
- robynuva See Profile I'm a Fan of robynuva

Gambling his wife's money. Gambling with other peoples' children.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 PM on 07/07/2008
- gage See Profile I'm a Fan of gage



"Gambling with other peoples' children."

Not exactly. He has two sons in the military, and one other who served.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 PM on 07/07/2008
- Scarllatti See Profile I'm a Fan of Scarllatti

And that gives him the right to be a hypocrite? Get past this "military" gambit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 AM on 07/08/2008
- DasBoot See Profile I'm a Fan of DasBoot

Maybe Bill Bennett will join for a few rounds? One more reason for the evangelicals to love McCain. But I am sure they will come around. After all, they accepted W.'s decades-long drug abuse (alcohol and god knows what).

Thank god McCain married a rich woman. This way he does not need to take "personal responsibility," as conservatives love to say, for his potential gambling losses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 07/07/2008
- phughez See Profile I'm a Fan of phughez

And if the Iraq War is like casino gambling--we're in for more losses. McCain, the gambler, cannot stop himself--it makes perfect sense now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 07/07/2008
- Gma11 See Profile I'm a Fan of Gma11

This is greatly concerning to me.

McCain has been known as a maverick. The pilots I know still regard him as a "risk taker" lacking consideration and responsibility for others (due to his record in the navy). Now we learn he is also/still a "risk taker" in gaming. If this IS a personal trait, that could likely have very dangerous ramifications for our nation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 07/07/2008
- ICanHasDemocracy See Profile I'm a Fan of ICanHasDemocracy

I'd rather the next President not look at the job as a crap shoot. The Potomac is NOT the Rubicon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 07/07/2008
- BADEN See Profile I'm a Fan of BADEN

""Uh-oh!" he cried, as a player accidentally threw the dice off the table. "This is a very, very superstitious game," he said."

UH oh...there goes the Christian Fundamentalist vote - "MC CAIN IS A CRAP-SHOOTIN' PAGAN!"

Wait...there's a call coming in....."Yes?....who? Bill Bennet??......"

Never mind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 07/07/2008
- gwine71 See Profile I'm a Fan of gwine71

wow, i can't believe somebody actually took that article seriously.......and i can't believe i actually responded to this guys response to it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 07/07/2008
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