Greg Mitchell

Greg Mitchell

Posted: July 13, 2009 03:54 PM

Nielsen Numbers Back Froomkin: Suggest He Wasn't Only One at Wash Post to Lose Audience

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Since the axing of Washington Post "White House Watch" blogger Dan Froomkin last month, the Post has claimed that most of the reason was the drop in page views for his column with Obama in office, not Bush. This line was emphasized again today in a New York Times report, which also warned that judging Web writers by page views was a slippery slope.

But Froomkin took issue with it today in an email to Atlantic blog star Andrew Sullivan, claiming the page view drop was real but not the main reason for his firing. He has alleged that others at the Post lost a lot of audience in recent months. So why was he singled out?

Indeed, the traffic seems to bear this out.

Here are the Nielsen numbers for washingtonpost.com since last September obtained by my magazine, Editor & Publisher (Nielsen is our parent). Back then, traffic really picked up at the Post (and a lot of other sites) during the election campaign -- and then has declined quite a bit since.

So Froomkin (since hired by Huff Post as Washington chief), indeed, did have a lot of company: Uniques off nearly 4 million since September. Traffic during one month this year actually was down 12% from one year previous. It was up 9% in May, so obviously some parts of the site are doing very well but surely a lot of other areas lost readers. Were his numbers compared to peak months? Like most papers, the Post refuses to release numbers on individual columns or blogs. It would be fascinating to see numbers for others.

Sept. 08: 12.9 million unique visitors, up 43% over previous year
Oct. 08: 12.3 million, 43%
Nov. 08: 11.1 million, 17%
Dec. 08: 11.4 million, 15%
Jan. 09: 11.1 million, 13%
Feb. 09: 9.2 million, (-12%)
March 09: 9.3 million, 5%
April 09: 10.2 million, 8%
May 09: 10.0 million, 9%


Greg Mitchell's latest book is "Why Obama Won." He is editor of Editor & Publisher.

 
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Mr. Mitchell,

Thank you for spelling "lose" correctly in your title.

That's all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 07/17/2009
- jazzman I'm a Fan of jazzman 229 fans permalink
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So audience trumps ability. Truth is at the mercy of ratings. News is for sale to the highest bidder.

Given this logic why would I ever buy an edition of the Washington Post if I wanted the news and to learn about what is going on?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 07/16/2009
- Gitmo I'm a Fan of Gitmo 9 fans permalink

WaPo has turned into a complete right-wing tool.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 AM on 07/15/2009
- bascombe I'm a Fan of bascombe 28 fans permalink
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always have been.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 AM on 07/16/2009
- jazzman I'm a Fan of jazzman 229 fans permalink
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And now its for sale to lobbyists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 07/16/2009
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WaPo, which I stopped reading a long time ago, has been a right-wing rag for years now. Froomkin isn't a winger; he was fired. Dunno why they hang on to Eugene Robinson, whom I love, but I'm glad they do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 07/14/2009
- Hart I'm a Fan of Hart 3 fans permalink
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I imagine TPTB over there find value in Robinson, if you get my drift (especially with his Pulitzer) ... not to imply that he isn't erudite or insightful because he most certainly is, but as you suggest, his political point of view is quite clear, while some may not find that the case with the editorial direction of the Post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 PM on 07/14/2009
- HarkaDahl I'm a Fan of HarkaDahl 5 fans permalink

I go to the WAPo to find out what America is telling *itself* about the world and reality. I dont go for the analysis or objectivity or to learn about the world - there is little of that to be found. But it serves as a highly accurate illustrator of the bubble of wishfull thinking and self aggrandisement that America has been imprisoned in. For much of the 20th century this bubble has proved robust and impenetrable, so to understand how American perceptions of crucial issues differ from the rest of the world consensus, one must look closely at the bubble and try to understand the people trapped within. The Washington Post typifies the bubble.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 AM on 07/14/2009

If you think there's a "world consensus" it sounds like you're living in quite a bubble there yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 AM on 07/14/2009
- peterg76 I'm a Fan of peterg76 30 fans permalink
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I think he means reality. Not exactly a consensus, but usually consistent with respect to US wishful thinking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 07/14/2009
- Callyson I'm a Fan of Callyson 42 fans permalink
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Please, HP, can you hire Tom Toles and Ann Telnaes--then I *never* have to go to WaPo for any reason...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 07/13/2009
- Snowball I'm a Fan of Snowball 46 fans permalink
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Seems everyone here is missing the elephant in the room. The obvious motive for the WaPo firing Froomkin is that he did not easily fit their political model which is steadfastly right wing. Why not put the pieces together? Consider their editorial page. Consider their employment of "reporter" John Solomon who specialized in writing hit pieces on Democrats repeatedly debunked, but defended by Deborah Howell. He now works for the Moonie owned Washington Times, his cover (and usefulness) blown as an objective reporter. Consider WaPo's most recent shenanigans over selling access to it's reporters to propagandists for the insurance and health care industry. Their most recent reporting on health care reform has been predictably sloppy, excluding real advocates for reform and relevant information unfavorable to the industry.

The WaPo is not a news organization, it's a right wing propaganda sheet. All the more insidious because it manages to maintain a thin veneer of objectivity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 07/13/2009
- HansB I'm a Fan of HansB 17 fans permalink

I agree, except for your first sentence. No one is missing the elephant in the room.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 AM on 07/14/2009
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Cosign. lol I see the elephant, vividly. haha

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 07/14/2009
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Ok, so the Washington Post got a 43% increase in views during the end of an election year compared to the previous year.

And then it declines.

And the Washington Post is using this as a rationalization for cutting people?

Frankly, the last few articles I read on the Washington Post's website (linked from here) were distinctly 4th rate - counting the NY Times as 1st rate, most major metropolitan dailies as 2nd rate, my local newspaper as 3rd rate.

I'd compare them with my son's 9th grade school newspaper, but I wouldn't want to hurt the kids feelings.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 PM on 07/13/2009
- userw014 I'm a Fan of userw014 2 fans permalink
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It dawned on me that I was misrepresenting the Washington Post. It isn't a newspaper, it's an industry rag. Journalism - News of general interest - isn't it's purpose.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 PM on 07/13/2009
- iblogleft I'm a Fan of iblogleft 86 fans permalink
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Agreed, I took it off my link list in February. Nothing but slop.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 07/13/2009

Dan was one of the few people I would hazard a visit to the Washington Post web site to read. Thankfully I no longer need to provide them with any traffic, glad the HP has hired him on since he was let go. Now the WaPo can focus on further decreasing their audience by hiring more conservative writers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 07/13/2009

Cloud7 -- with Broder, Krauthammer, Hoagland, Gerson, Ignatius, Cohen, Applebaum still at their perches on (dominating) the op-ed page, you can't help but think they don't want to admit that there was an election, and that The Other Side Of The Aisle ... WON!

The salons-for-pay affair did not scandalize me. Business, for Big Business, as usual.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 07/13/2009
- bayside I'm a Fan of bayside 36 fans permalink
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Has anyone ever investigated neison for fraud or fixing polls. After obama got elected it doesnt make sense that foxs hate news would get a increase..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 07/13/2009
- mnich13 I'm a Fan of mnich13 2 fans permalink

Are you kidding? Fox viewers have more to hate now that Obama is in office. Certainly fox news Nielsen's could get an increase.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 07/13/2009
- marxmarv I'm a Fan of marxmarv 24 fans permalink
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Well, A.C. Nielsen is owned by News Corp....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 07/13/2009

It is entirely logical. Remember, cable TV news viewers do not make up a representative sample.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 AM on 07/15/2009
- larry278 I'm a Fan of larry278 46 fans permalink

It is no longer a matter of if but of when the WA PO folds. When histories of the WA PO are written, one wonders if the authors will point to the WA PO's few years as 1 of the USA's newspapers of record at the expense of telling when & why the WA PO began its slide toward inaccuracy & oblivion. The Washington Times may continue to publish after the WA PO folds if the Unification Church continues to fund the Washington Times's operations. But the Washington Times may not ever have the cachet & reputation for honesty that the Christian Science Monitor retains. To be unduly flip & smarmy, the news business continues to change rapidly. The traditional MSM is dying.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 07/13/2009
- alexa07 I'm a Fan of alexa07 50 fans permalink

In the case of news from the Middle East, the MSM has been digging its own grave by filtering way too much news & stacking the deck in favor of one party only. Guess who? Any American, who has even just the slightest bit of curiosity that he might not be getting all the facts, can turn to any number of very dynamic alternative or foreign sources. So easy. What he or she finds is that the MSM has been beggared, shamed into substituting real news for ideological patronage to vested interests.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 PM on 07/13/2009
- larry278 I'm a Fan of larry278 46 fans permalink

What does your comment have to do with the possibility that the WA PO will fold, the WA PO once being a US newspaper of record, the WA PO's slide into inaccuracy & oblivion, the Washington Times continuing to publish after the WA PO folds, the Washington Times's not developing the cachet & reputation for honesty which the CSM retains, the news busisness continuing to change rapidly, alexa07? You appear to be a bit off thread, alexa. Could you try to make your coments refer to the comments I made? I was specific, you were unduly vague & dealt in the general when you chose to comment upon my comments. Why didn't you bring in the price of eggs in Armenia into your comments since you're dealing in vague, generalities in your comments?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 07/13/2009
- Bluedanube I'm a Fan of Bluedanube 34 fans permalink

The WaPo will not "die" it will merely morph into a weekly community news covering dog shows, planning commission meetings, ribbon cuttings for the Dollar Store, etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 AM on 07/14/2009
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