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Greg Mitchell

Posted: May 21, 2008 10:25 AM

Right is Wrong: the New York Times Corrects Latest Kristol, Brooks Columns on Obama

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In a rare move, the New York Times offered a total of four corrections today, right under its editorials, covering the two latest columns from conservative op-ed columnists William Kristol and David Brooks.

Kristol has been plagued with errors since his column was launched several months ago, keeping internal and external fact-checkers busy. The man is a correction-generating machine. One of my country music friends calls Kristol and his conservative stable mate "Brooks and Dumb," and they are featured in my new book on Iraq and the media.

Several bloggers quickly pounced on Monday when Kristol declared that Barack Obama faced difficulties as indicated by losing the West Virginia primary by 41% -- which Kristol said was unprecedented for a frontrunner in recent memory. In fact, they noted Mitt Romney had trounced John McCain by much more than that in Utah just this year, and McCain had lost a couple of other contests by nearly that margin.

Here are the Times' corrections for Kristol:

In his column on Monday, Bill Kristol said he could not find a recent primary in which the candidate who would go on to win the nomination lost by as big a margin as Barack Obama lost by (41 points) in West Virginia. Mitt Romney won the essentially uncontested Utah primary on Feb. 5 with about 90 percent of the vote.


Also, the California Supreme Court is based in San Francisco, not the state capital, Sacramento.

Along with that, the paper carried two corrections on the latest Brooks opus:

The column by David Brooks on Tuesday said incorrectly that Senator Barack Obama voted last week for the farm bill. Mr. Obama did not cast a vote on the bill; he supported it.


Also, Senator John McCain spoke from Chicago on Monday, not Detroit.

Greg Mitchell's new book, which features more Brooks and Kristol follies, is So Wrong for So Long: How the Press, the Pundits -- and the President -- Failed on Iraq (Union Square Press, $11). It features a preface by Bruce Springsteen.

In a rare move, the New York Times offered a total of four corrections today, right under its editorials, covering the two latest columns from conservative op-ed columnists William Kristol and David B...
In a rare move, the New York Times offered a total of four corrections today, right under its editorials, covering the two latest columns from conservative op-ed columnists William Kristol and David B...
 
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What do you expect from the Chief of Staff for Dan Quayle -- the guy who couldn't get his facts straight (although he was right about water on Mars). Remember that administration? Come from behind, underdog win by Bush I -- final payback for his service to the country in Cuba and Dallas 1963, going from CIA, later Vice President, then one-term President?

John Kennedy was the last president to oppose a nuclear Israel. In fact, that was his final foreign policy battle (fought behind the scenes). After he died, Israel's military aid went up 400% in one year under Johnson, stole military secrets like crazy, got Nukes, kicked the Arab's butts in the 6 day war to grab a bunch of territory, got an ally in Kissinger under Nixon, and the rest is history until the cabal of Neocons in the Bush II administration leading us into the war of error, and Iraq.

Why was Kristol in that position under Quayle? Practice for the upcoming PNAC, Neocon revolution that roared in the 1990s and 2000s?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 05/21/2008
- wmholt I'm a Fan of wmholt 31 fans permalink
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Bill Kristol has never suffered any adverse consequences to being wrong, therefore, the facts are a low priority to him. Does his bio include journalism training? I would guess "no".

When you watch Bill Kristol, you know that he does not believe his spin. He advocates a certain political agenda as his livelihood. I would think that lying for a living would suck, but Bill has prospered at this occupation.

I like when Jon Stewart calls Kristol, on his B.S., after which, they exchange knowing glances and Bill Kristol changes the subject, and moves on, rambling until Jon Stewart calls him on another "misstatement".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 05/21/2008
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 167 fans permalink

Stewart is a good interviewer. Kristol never looks so vulnerable as when he goes on Stewart. He looks like he wants his mother. Stewart catches him in his lies and humorously calls attention to them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 AM on 05/22/2008
- glesslib I'm a Fan of glesslib 24 fans permalink

Bill Kristol will probably quit the NYT if they keep hasseling him over things like facts. They forget that he formerly worked for a journal read only by people who agreed with him. Facts were necessary or examined. It was always about unfounded accusations.

Bill and NYT will be mutually tired of one another soon. But never fear...since facts mean little at Fox, he wil still have his gig there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 05/21/2008
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 167 fans permalink

Perhaps the New York Times will just rename itself as a gossip rag and expand Kristol's column to five days a week. He can be wrong all he wants. Then they can do stories on alien invasions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 AM on 05/22/2008
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Mr. Kristol,
The New York Timnes called.
They would like their credibility back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 05/21/2008

Mis-information is part of their plan for a long time, I missed these class-less,classes in college.
When six figure plus incomes gloat on their on lies..........Win at all cost, Who lies the best??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 05/21/2008
- hmmmmmer I'm a Fan of hmmmmmer 30 fans permalink

Kristol was still saying this on Fox Noise last night, probably because he knows that most of the people that listen are so stupid they wouldn't know the difference. Kristol is a poor excuse for a human being, but the body language him and Hume have given off the past week says it all, the Republicans are going down in November and don't mean on just each other.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 05/21/2008
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Kristol has been plagued with errors since his conception.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 05/21/2008

what was the Times thinking? They will have to suspend fact checking to accommodate Reich wing columnists. Hiring Brooks and Kristol for purposes of accurate reporting or informed opinions is like buying a cow and expecting to get orange juice when you milk it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 05/21/2008
- Krikkit I'm a Fan of Krikkit 14 fans permalink

So now I'm wondering if these two right-wingers weren't brought on board the New York Times just so they could provide a "corrective example" for folks who have a tendency to ignore the right-wing idiocy.

Nah! That would give to much credit for subtlty to the MSM, even for the Times.

Probably just a lucky coincidence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 05/21/2008

You have to consider that NY Times endorsed Hillary and McCain. They have been an extreme propoganda outlet for Hillary, and I'm sure as soon as Obama wins the Democratic primary, they'll be the Fox news of the newspaper world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 PM on 05/21/2008

Brooks and Kristol are Propagandists for Neocon Globalists. They care very little about America and only want to use America's Military in support of their dreams of a Neocon Empire.

The Republican Party is being destroyed by them and they are trying to help McCain by attacking Obama.

The NYT is a Neocon Propaganda Organ and supports the Neocon Agenda. That is why they hired Kristol and Brooks.

Americans should beware of the NYT Propaganda page, read George Washington's and Eisenhower's Farewell Addresses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 05/21/2008
- bbbear I'm a Fan of bbbear 22 fans permalink
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Exactly! And it sickens one to realize that the NYT's, a once powerful voice for truth and justice, has now devolved into little more than another mouth of the military/industrial complex. As you alluded to, Eisenhower warned us but apparently we the people didn't hear him, or didn't care nor, seemingly, does the forces behind the times. That is, the editors surely know that Kristol and Brooks combined wouldn't make a pimple on a real journalist's bottom. Yet Murdoch's cancerous example of Feaux News now seems deeply embeded in the NYT's figurative cortex, severing its once intellectual and ethical connection to the larger world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 05/21/2008
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What is the consequence for these so-called errors? In the REAL world, when one coniinues to make errors in their line of work, they get FIRED.
The only conclusion one could come to is that these "errors" are condoned by the Times. Accordingly, the hit on paper's reputation is well deserved.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 05/21/2008

Tell it to Jason Blair

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 05/21/2008
- debwarot I'm a Fan of debwarot 10 fans permalink

That is pretty much how I see it also.

How many of us would keep someone on our payroll who makes the same errors repeatedly?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 05/21/2008
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You nailed it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 05/21/2008
- iPolitics I'm a Fan of iPolitics 33 fans permalink

William Kristol and David Brooks also pushed for the Iraq War. These kids have a huge liberal audience to talk to with their articles in the Times. It would be nice if they at least got their facts straight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 05/21/2008
- Podewumun I'm a Fan of Podewumun 32 fans permalink

Kristol is a moron, whoever hired him at the NYT is a moron, and anybody who believes a word he says is a moron.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 05/21/2008
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Kristol's champion at the NYT is publisher Arthur Ochs Sulzberger Jr.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 05/21/2008
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Podewumun See Profile I'm a Fan of Podewumun

Kristol is a moron, whoever hired him at the NYT is a moron, and anybody who believes a word he says is a moron.
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Agreed, Podewumun.

Even more so, they are traitors to all the best things America can be.

Bad people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 05/21/2008
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While I sympathize with your anger, I strongly suspect the problem has more to do with greed, than with IQ.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 05/21/2008
- rjean I'm a Fan of rjean 4 fans permalink

when is the last time the ny slimes corrected anything said about a republican..

you left wing hypocrites

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 05/21/2008
- Podewumun I'm a Fan of Podewumun 32 fans permalink

When was the last time the NYT printed anything INCORRECT about a Repuke?

If you cite one instance, I will apologize, but I warn you...best put your tin helmet on, troll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 05/21/2008

rjean: like all republican trolls, facts are never important. Either back up your statement with facts, or shut up. You write wing liars are found out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 AM on 05/22/2008
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TheTimes hired them (two embarrassments), let itsuffer the consequences of lost credibility.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 PM on 05/21/2008

David Brooks got his start at 23 years old with the Moonie rag "The Washington Times" (see "Bad Moon Rising" by John Gorenfeld) which seems to be a cloning factory for young Faustian Bargain hunters looking to get some "creds" before moving on to the likes of the NYT (Not "All the news fit to print" but "All the news print to fit" (the dominant paradigm of the dominant class of the dominant system). Kristol is the neocon son of former Trotskyite turned neocon fascist Irving Kristol. Neither of them would rate a byline in a free supermarket bargain paper but both have been "mainstreamed" on various talk shows and other media.

As my mother used to say: "You will find more white trash wearing suits in New York City and Wasington D.C. than in all the trailer parks of America combined."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 05/21/2008
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