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7 More of the Most Annoying Wine Words

Posted: 11/12/10 01:07 PM ET

Okay, so you guys got into the spirit with the first "Annoying Wine Words," and even called me out for my use of some of those wine words! I admit it, I am guilty as charged. After my last treatise, Snooth member Mlandry burned me for my use of "creamy."

I can break out the science texts and defend myself, or just go with it. So, today I'm gonna do a bit of navel-gazing and regale you with 7 annoying wine words that I abuse -- er, use. And folks, let me just add one thing: if this isn't fun, don't do it. I always say that about wine (whether it's drinking wine, talking wine, making fun of annoying wine words, or sharing wine) -- it's got to be fun, and if it ain't, move on. Nothing to see here anyway, except for 7 more annoying wine words.

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This wine is round, you say? Actually, it's sort of whatever the shape of the vessel it's in. Wine is a liquid, after all, so it assumes the shape of its glass or bottle. It's a law of physics (number 3 or 4, I think).

Yeah, I know that you mean "it fills the mouth in a soft, seamless way," so why don't you just write that? Well, primarily because that's more characters and I'm lazy, and it gets boring to write the same thing for every wine, for both me and the reader -- so I'm just looking out for your best interests!
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Okay, so you guys got into the spirit with the first "Annoying Wine Words," and even called me out for my use of some of those wine words! I admit it, I am guilty as charged. After my last treatise, S...
Okay, so you guys got into the spirit with the first "Annoying Wine Words," and even called me out for my use of some of those wine words! I admit it, I am guilty as charged. After my last treatise, S...
 
 
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Mikeeee
conservatism = "low-effort" thinking.
04:20 AM on 11/20/2010
huh?
04:38 PM on 11/16/2010
From Mr. Dal Piaz HP bio:

"So while he is most at home discussing the minutiae of the terroirs of Barolo, he is equally intrigued by the vintage variations of classic California Cabernets or the rankings of Bordeaux classed growths."

Oh the irony...
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Gregory Dal Piaz
02:44 PM on 11/15/2010
I'd like to thank everyone for their comments. I believe that wine should be fun and those fully immersed in it should be able to see that. I've been involved in the wine business for longer than I want to believe, and I certainly have taken myself too seriously at times. It seems like it's a very common pitfall.

Yes wine is serious, yadda yadda yadda, but for the vast majority of people out there drinking wine it is a simple pleasure. While people in the wine business must use a vernacular, that doesn't mean it's universal, and it certainly doesn't mean it's not worthy of having some fun with!
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David McDevitt
12:08 PM on 11/15/2010
there's nothing wrong with a subject manner having its own terminology/vocabulary.
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iconoclast6
This is my BOOM stick!
11:42 AM on 11/15/2010
You forgot "chewy" and "umami." Dishonorable mention to "soupcon."
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Edward Standley
opinionated jerk
10:15 AM on 11/15/2010
Some of the most fun I've ever had in wine tasting rooms was observing the faux blowhards loudly "taking the stage" in rhapsodic, verbose praise of wines. Always reminded me of the SNL John Lovich character who would proclaim - "Acting! Brrrilliant!"
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deepintheheartoftejas
Middle o/t Road = Yellow stripes & dead armadillos
10:30 PM on 11/14/2010
"catpiss", when describing Sauvignon Blanc. Having four litterboxes to regularly clean (for 3 cats), I can thankfully say I've never encountered any catpiss aromas or flavors in any sauvignon I've ever had. And if I did, it wouldn't be a positive.
10:22 AM on 11/14/2010
I really dislike "chewey". Have read this discription more than once.
08:51 AM on 11/14/2010
Um, why is this guy allowed to write a wine column? His fundamental misunderstanding of terroir *alone* disqualifies him from having anything interesting to say on the subject. Seriously, this article reads like a college freshman who doesn't understand calculus and decides to regale everyone with "7 Reasons Why Math is Dumb."

I would pick apart all of his objections, but his overwhelming ignorance seems self-evident. Wine appreciation come replete with its own vocabulary, yes; but that doesn't mean you have to know all the words to like the wine. No one is saying that. Someone who doesn't perceive that a wine is "round" can still enjoy the wine, and that's fine. But when experts are talking to experts, sometimes different words are used. If the author had any field of expertise (which is all but unimaginable), then perhaps he'd understand.
02:04 PM on 11/14/2010
I agree, James A, I don't understand why Dal Piaz is writing here or on Snooth, when he is so full of self-loathing for his profession, which is to explain to the public the difference between wines so they can make more educated choices. First he mocked the whole wine-buying public and now he mocks the very words that he, as a wine writer, must use for his job. How can one take his Snooth articles seriously wondering how seriously he takes his own words.
Every industry has jargon, useful for conveying ideas in a specific area. If your IT person told you your website is not resolving due to propogation problems stemming from DNS issues on the server, would you scoff and call them a computer snob just because you don't understand?
Just sayin...
06:12 PM on 11/15/2010
Mr. James A, apparently you missed Greg's comment "it's got to be fun, and if it ain't, move on." You chastise him about his description of terroir. You have THE description? Did God give it to you? I've been chasing the subject for over 25 years and you can rest assured that this word has almost as many definitions as there are people who write about. Trying being less sanctimonious. If you check, you'll find lack of universal agreement about many a wine descriptor. The Wine Aroma Wheel does its best to give us a base for olfactory terms but if you think there's anything like universal agreement on the rest of it--such as the terms Dal Piaz plays with here, you're dreaming.
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Badger33
You may say to yourself...
01:08 AM on 11/14/2010
OK, so what do I use as a substitute for fruit-forward? I lived in Oregon during the 80's and 90's when the pinot noir makers were aging everything in oak. The result was a wine where all you could taste was oak--no fruit. The experience was as pleasant as chewing on an old, moldy catchers' mitt. Fortunately, they evolved. So what do I use when I'm offered something that is liquid leather?
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mango55
12:53 AM on 11/14/2010
Quaffable, yet far from transcendent.
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mango55
12:51 AM on 11/14/2010
Flaccid, yet absurd.
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11:48 PM on 11/13/2010
Please use the words "supportive tannins" in a sentence.

John Boehner's ascent to the speakership would be a clear indication of Republicans' supportive tannins.
10:46 PM on 11/13/2010
Some wine terms from my youth:

"Chateau Pierre de la Deceptionaire"=Sneaky Pete
"Made With Scotch Grapes"=Bottled Fermented Wino Whizz
"Wine Cooler"=10 cents of cheap wine, CO2, and stale fruit flavors, sold to a gullible public.
"Newly Discovered"=The vineyard was near Chernobyl.
"Served Chilled"=Otherwise, it's going to irritate your gag reflex.
"Cold Duck"=Overpriced cheap red wine with LOTS of CO2. Burp your way through New Year's!
"California Champange"=A big reason why the French despise us!
"Noble Rot"=A BIGGER reason California winemakers despise the French!
"Austrailan Wines"=Be thankfull the French Nuke-Tipped missiles can't reach Sydney!
"Rich-Girl Wines"= "I Wanna Diamond!" "I Wanna Go To Miami Beach!" "I Wanna Mink!"
"Date-Ready Wines"=If you need liquid courage when you visit that special someone...
"Mad Dog 20/20"=Endorsed by more winos in the County Drunk Tank than any other brand!
"Dago Red"=What every sailor visiting San Diego gets when visiting a wine bar. "Dago" in this case is Cali-speak for San Diego, not the insult terms for Italians.
"Black Tower"=One reason why Germans should stick to brewing beer!
"Cooking Wines"=Wine mixed with salt, used to cook with. Must be really hard-up to want to use as a beverage!
"Non-Alcoholic Wines"=Grape juice with snob appeal. One taste, and you'll be reaching for the real stuff right quick!
"Chella Lambrusco"=You'd be smiling through those commercials too if you drank enough of this!

--RKJ
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BlueKansas
Stop calling us 'ordinary Americans'!
10:02 PM on 11/13/2010
If I were even remotely familiar with any of these wine terms, I would probably bore myself to death.