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Am I Wrong About This?

Posted: 04/ 1/2012 1:29 pm

Yes, of course the president wants his signature health care law upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court... but I suspect (suspect, since no honest person can say he knows) that it would help him politically if the statute were to be struck down in its entirety. This November election could be close and enthusiasm really matters in a close election. So how does he rev up the enthusiasm? Right now he has considerable drag e.g., gas prices.

Striking down the statute could really rev up the president's base -- add fuel to their current political mantra fire about a 'war on women.' I can think of the ads now, can't you? The president's enthusiasm level among his supporters has been sagging -- something that happens during a second term campaign -- and he needs something to throw his weight behind to really drive his supporters to the polls. An existing health care law won't do it since it feels a bit like, 'been there, done it.' Striking the law down, on the other hand, could really be used to put political panic in his supporters.

Plus... if the law is stricken by the U.S. Supreme Court, those current less-than-enthusiastic Republican voters, and the independents furious about health care may not find their way to the polls come November if they have achieved what they already wanted -- getting rid of the health care law. They may feel a bit ho-hum about voting since they got what they wanted.

Of course if some giant international or domestic event happens, health care law will become irrelevant as it gets pushed down our collective radar screen. And of course, much could happen between now and November.

What do you think? Am I wrong? (By the way, people I know who spends lots of time thinking about politics say I am wrong about this one... )

Cross-posted from GretaWire, where it first appeared.

 
 
 
Yes, of course the president wants his signature health care law upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court... but I suspect (suspect, since no honest person can say he knows) that it would help him politically...
Yes, of course the president wants his signature health care law upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court... but I suspect (suspect, since no honest person can say he knows) that it would help him politically...
 
 
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oilfield
large employer per obamacare
10:42 PM on 04/08/2012
it will sure be nice when it is overturned...but i agree that it will energize the presidents base. i dont think the middle class folks can bear any more load to subsidize the poor....
11:27 PM on 04/09/2012
No; we are tired of the "for profit" health care industry. Please bring on single payer.
oilfield
large employer per obamacare
01:34 AM on 04/11/2012
good luck with that system....
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sigmetsue
militantly moderate
10:39 PM on 04/08/2012
That thought has occurred to me, too, and I'm a moderate Democrat. Striking down the law in its entirety would also force the Republicans into a defensive stance, especially from people now enjoying benefits they didn't have before. It might give the Dems a full sweep in November.
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CenaW
Did you know AOL belongs to A L E C
10:15 PM on 04/08/2012
Wrong on everything Greta, but be honest about the source of these so called writings.
CATO or Heritage Foundation produces them. They are full of CATO / Heritage words and phrases.
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AndyB62
Immune to Romnesia & Romonomics
10:12 PM on 04/08/2012
When gas prices rose without stop during the 8 years of Bush-the-Younger, repubs never once blamed W. Do they really think the general public is dumb enough to think they'll convince us that President Obama is ratcheting up gas prices?
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JackHoffman
Pundit
11:10 PM on 04/08/2012
Unfortunately yes. They are dumb enough.
CrustyCSM
the liberals nightmare
09:37 PM on 04/08/2012
Way too easy for the president to become the victim of the mean SC and GOP when if fact he is violating Constitutional Law. Spout that the GOP hates womens rights because the GOP doesnt want a mandate to provide contraception at the taxpayers expense. If your insurance company doesnt provide for it, this America, you are free to find an insurance company that will...Too easy. Lots of hard decisions to make, and so easy to be president and promise to be the cure all for all your pains.
How is that hope and change doing for you that you heard about in 08????? Didnt know it came with some rules and restrictions???? Whoops.
09:45 PM on 04/08/2012
and way to easy for you to lie about it. And you did.
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sigmetsue
militantly moderate
10:42 PM on 04/08/2012
Providing contraception at taxpayer expense was not the issue. But while we're at it, let's make VERY sure that no employers or taxpayers are forced to pay for treatment of any male reproductive issues. What's good for the goose is also for the gander.
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Drosco
09:36 PM on 04/08/2012
This law is not going anywhere, buy insurance and stop whining.
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Toolologist
We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion
09:28 PM on 04/08/2012
Yes, Gretta, you're wrong. Not for the first time, probably not the last, either.
08:59 PM on 04/08/2012
You want to predict what's going to happen in American politics and always be right? Then just ask yourself: what do the big corporate lobbyists want?

The big corporate lobbyists want Obamacare. They WROTE Obamacare. It was THEIR IDEA. They LOVE the idea of Americans being MANDATED to buy insurance from CORPORATE AMERICA.

So it'll pass the Supreme Court. Trust me.
09:47 PM on 04/08/2012
what a lie. Mitt wrote "Obamacare", when he was governor. The GOP approved the terms of the ACA (Obamacare), but as soon as Obama proposed it, oh, no, NOW the GOP has to oppose it and lie. Look, do yourself a favor and learn before you post.
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Pete Cunningham
Seek and ye shall find
10:18 PM on 04/08/2012
Don't forget the Heritage Foundation who first proposed the idea of mandated coverage back in the 20th century
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08:49 PM on 04/08/2012
you're wrong. no big deal, you just can't conceive of a situation where people are honestly trying to advantage people they don't know, different beliefs, not their family.

your concept of society is a tool to advantage yourself. mr. obama is at least slightly better than that...
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
08:18 PM on 04/08/2012
I'd rather people not die from lack of access to health care than use them as pawns for a political campaign.

The very threat by the conservative e anti republic, anti citizens majority of the Supremes, has energized the voters.

The crazy, keep the women barefoot pregnant in in the kitchen, GOP conservatives have also alienated all the sane women in the USA.

Vote my friends, if we all vote, the citizens would win every time.

Don't let the republic fall to the big money tools.
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Vincent Van Der Hyde
The truth will set you free.
08:14 PM on 04/08/2012
OK,
so the secret is out.
The best thing in the world would be if the Supremes tossed out the whole Act, lock, stock and barrel.
Then the President can campaign against the court, the crazy right wing, the greedy 'health insurance' insurance industry and we can go straight to the only viable solution anyhow----plain old vanilla socialist universal coverage-single payor health care.
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Gupdiver
We are in a period of Ineptocracy!
08:55 PM on 04/08/2012
Just love your portrayal of the insurance industry, what about the doctors, hospitals etc whom I bet have no intention of lowering their prices because they have a guaranteed revenue stream with the ACA. Sure the insurance companies profit but so does everyone else in the healthcare industry. You really think doctors and hospitals lined up behind the ACA because they liked it, no it's because they now have a guaranteed revenue stream that they didn't have before because they, by law, had to treat people whether or not they could pay. Face the ACA doesn't do anything to control costs.
09:48 PM on 04/08/2012
do your self a favor- go read the ACA. It's on line, and prove that you have and can employ reading comprehension skills
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Vincent Van Der Hyde
The truth will set you free.
10:30 PM on 04/09/2012
I gather that you don't know that almost all physicians and hospitals are part of corporations and DO NOT set their own rates.
All power rests with the corporation.
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Drosco
09:39 PM on 04/08/2012
Buy insurance and stop promoting this deadbeat behavior. Who will pay your bills when you skip on that Er bill?. Chances you went to the ER with some flu because ..YOU have no insurance!!!
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Vincent Van Der Hyde
The truth will set you free.
10:29 PM on 04/09/2012
Gee,
I'm totally covered by my retirement health insurance and Medicare.
How about you?
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Sharon Hanson
Skeptical of the *pseudo-skeptics*
08:12 PM on 04/08/2012
You don't get it do you Greta? Obama wins no matter what happens. He has the Republicans in check mate.

1) If it stays in tack he wins - the voters will be pleased about it
2) If only the requirement to purchase insurance is stuck down he still wins because the insurance companies will go out of business and the government will run healthcare
3) If the whole ACA is struck down he wins because the country will be so ticked off many Republicans will be voted out of office

Obama can't lose on this one. I think the best thing for him is if the Supreme Court votes it down in its entirely.
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Pubdestroyer
Just your average comedic intellectual who is curr
07:57 PM on 04/08/2012
No, of course you are not wrong . . . when you preach to your ignorant base. Other than in that situation, yep, you are wrong.
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calamityjohn
07:52 PM on 04/08/2012
Essentially in your argument you looked at two factors ..
1. will less of the GOP base show up if the healthcare law is already defeated ? ... Perhaps, but in many ways nominating Romney has already burst the bubble of the GOP base on that issue ....

2. will more of the Dem. base will show up if the law goes down ? .. more likely .. but it will be less about healthcare and more about turning the partisan supreme court in their favor .. most of the dems I know are split on healthcare .. those that think that the ACA was a beginning but that it is really about single payer .. and that defeat of ACA may actually move us toward that ... and other dems that see that it took 50 years to get this far and might be pretty demoralized by seeing it torn down ..

3. but your article leaves out the middle of the electorate ... will they see on one hand Obama losing the achievement he spent so much capital to achieve or will they see a supreme court continuing with a very partisan string of decisions .. and how will that play out.
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Star2000dancer
Pay it forward, the movie..
07:23 PM on 04/08/2012
Why does the MSM keep saying we have the best in the world, when in fact, we are rated as one of the lowest ranked healthcare.

Lowest ranked healthcare at 5X's the cost. If we had good healthcare, it would automatically be cheaper. I hope Obama addresses that, and completely shoots doen Pelosi care and creates real Obama Care.

Those who know how bad the entire healthcare system is, had hope the quality of care would be what was changed.

Instead we got a front loaded, watered down version of this put dated drug selling Big Pharma, Big Insurance Co. scam. Drugs do not heal or cure. They chemically treat organic symptoms that create permanent and deadly side effects.

People are finally figuring this out. Come on Obama, make this YOUR Healthcare. There were too many cooks in this one. You and Michelle had a dream, make it happen. Do it right. You must know how low our healthcare is ranked.

Let's make it the best! Millions of us are waiting for the real change. Be the people.
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Sharon Hanson
Skeptical of the *pseudo-skeptics*
08:23 PM on 04/08/2012
Star I think he knows what he is doing. The best case for patient care would be for the insurance mandate to go through. Why? Because the insurance companies will be motivated to stop pharma from poisoning us with impunity.
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shryock
It never is what it is anymore
11:37 PM on 04/08/2012
"Why does the MSM keep saying we have the best in the world, when in fact, we are rated as one of the lowest ranked healthcare?"

I think because they look at the wrong things.
For example, Dick Cheyney at age 71 had a heart transplant and lived.
That is a remarkable achievement of medical care.
Clearly clearly had top notch care and top notch doctors.
So, in that way, our medical system is very good, possibly the best in the world.

The problem is not that our medical system is not good, I think, the problem is that our medical system is inaccessible. Too many American citizens do not have access to our medical system. They do not have quality care because, unlike Cheyney, they do not have the money to purchase it. In that way, our medical system is very bad.

No one wants to admit that money is more important than any other qualification when it comes to health care in this country. Why that is, I do not know, but that seems to be the particular set of blinders the MSM has chosen to wear.