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Sons With Guns (PHOTOS)

Posted: 04/30/2012 11:10 am

Images from an ongoing project, "Sons With Guns." My original text for accompanying these images was filled with the usual litany of concerns about the gun culture in America; condemnation about the belligerent NRA that continues to mythologize and cloak any attempts at sane gun control as the first measures that will trigger an avalanche of attacks on "freedom." It has all been said before, and said better -- and perhaps because this is a photo blog, the images should speak for themselves.

The final image, which may be hard to read on a computer screen, is of three men at a peace march years ago. The text on the back of his T-shirt reads: "The Gun is Mine. The Bullets are Yours. Come get em any Time."

 
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Images from an ongoing project, "Sons With Guns." My original text for accompanying these images was filled with the usual litany of concerns about the gun culture in America; condemnation about the b...
Images from an ongoing project, "Sons With Guns." My original text for accompanying these images was filled with the usual litany of concerns about the gun culture in America; condemnation about the b...
 
 
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06:46 PM on 05/06/2012
'Sons with toys' would be a better title. I spot one actual gun(maybe even a really close copy?) in your photos. Seems a bit dishonest. Has there ever been an honest attempt at disarming the civilian populace?
Something like: "We don't like you to protect yourself. It frightens those that rule over you. Turn them all in, Mr. and Mrs. America!"
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ChezBaker
I got mine Vs. I got yours
01:44 PM on 05/03/2012
Are you kidding me? Most if not all of those "guns" are obvious toys. Anyone who knows anything about guns at all would spot the "shotguns" in the first pic as either paintball or airsoft guns. After that it just gets worse. The only picture that looks like it could be a real pistol is a drawing or computer renderd pic to look like a drawing. Lame. At least get some credible evidence if your going to bring charges.
09:56 AM on 05/03/2012
I like the boy in the fourth photo who killed all the Barbies in preemptive self defense. He appears to be seeking other threatening subjects.
12:27 AM on 05/03/2012
The State that denies me my right to own and carry firearms for protection of self, family, and property is a Police State. That State's citizens are not free- they are slaves to the rulers. America is a free country. Free men have the right to be armed (with the same weapons Police and Government feel comfortable with- not antiquated, inefficient substitutes). If you choose not to be armed, that is YOUR freedom, Mr. Proppe. Don't infringe MY freedom.
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butchcliff
The future is unwritten
07:13 AM on 05/02/2012
Taught my sons & daughter the incredible power of the gun when young. Let them fire a shotgun..once..each. They have never had an interest in guns since.
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wolflover3825
Hungry Like the Wolf.
08:38 AM on 05/02/2012
Then you rushed it. Should have started out with a 22 LR rifle. Then they might have discovered the fun and enjoyment of target shooting.
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David Carson
01:15 PM on 05/02/2012
a 12 gauge is the wrong firearm to start a small statured individual on--just like I would not star my small 10 year old nephew on my SRH in 454 Casull with fulll power loads
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butchcliff
The future is unwritten
06:10 AM on 05/03/2012
Waited til they were about 12. Not against guns/hunting personally. Have many. Kids had other interests
01:23 PM on 05/02/2012
You must not have been a very good teacher then.
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butchcliff
The future is unwritten
06:07 AM on 05/03/2012
My kids decided, They didn't like it
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Michael Steaphens
It's all about liberty.
02:56 AM on 05/02/2012
"The Gun is Mine. The Bullets are Yours. Come get em any Time." I'll have to look into ordering that shirt.
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wolflover3825
Hungry Like the Wolf.
07:39 PM on 05/02/2012
Let me know if you find where you can get them. I might take one.
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hagagaga
You can't take the sky from me.
07:21 PM on 05/01/2012
Couldn't you have taken pictures of children using real firearms? Talking about the real thing with pictures of toys is dishonest.
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David Carson
01:16 PM on 05/02/2012
do you really expect anything else from a civilian disarmament advocate
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Berettasskeeter
For what we are about to receive, may we be truly
10:24 PM on 05/02/2012
And at least one of the photos is either not real, or it is NOT in the US!!
Semper fi
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hagagaga
You can't take the sky from me.
07:18 PM on 05/01/2012
Teaching your child to shoot is one of the most important acts that you can do as a parent.
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LastAngryWoman
waiting for godot
12:56 PM on 05/03/2012
Oh, that's okay, thanks. I live in a community where we don't need guns. We don't shoot each other. Sometimes I even forget to lock my door. But thanks. Good luck with your lovely neighbourhood.
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OdinsEye
Korean-Latino cop and retired military combat vet
03:32 PM on 05/04/2012
" I live in a community where we don't need guns. We don't shoot each other."

This does not mean your kids should not learn about firearms.

I live in a neighborhood where we don't "need" firearms, but lots of us have them. And our kids learned about firearm starting when they were young about not touching them, later learning about the power of firearms and about firearm safety, then later about marksmanship and about legal issues ranging from the Second Amendment and federal laws down to state, county, and municipal laws. Thus, when our kids see firearms they don't hyperventilate, have seizures, or pass out; nor do they treat them like toys. Our kids know what firearms are, how they work, what they can do, what is proper and improper to do with them, etc. and therefore are far less likely to misuse them or to be careless around them. And quite frankly, whether you have firearms in your home or not, these are great lessons for kids to learn because once they are outside the home, there is no telling what they might encounter.
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HawaiiSteve
be your own lamp... let truth be your light!
07:22 AM on 05/05/2012
I too live in a state where we don't need guns. We have some of the strongest gun laws in the country AND we have the lowest gun deaths per capita. Go figure...
03:30 PM on 05/01/2012
The images do indeed speak for themselves. Please keep this project going.

And read the latest Gun Violence Prevention Report: 68,000 Guns to Mexico
http://bit.ly/K07Stq
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Dimensio
I just don't know what went wrong!
04:01 PM on 05/01/2012
What percentage of those recovered firearms were sold by licensed firearm sellers, and what percentage were restricted firearms (such as short-barreled or fully-automatic firearms) not available to United States civilians that were sold to the Mexican military or police forces?
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Michael Steaphens
It's all about liberty.
02:43 AM on 05/02/2012
LOL,hold on,Dimensio!As soon as you threw those terms "short-barreled and fully-automatic firearms" into the mix,you know you have totally confused the poster.Most of the gun haterz don't know squat about guns in the first place.
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Jerry Bourbon
04:50 PM on 05/01/2012
How many of those were Fast and Furious weapons, how many were Government to Government transfers, and how many were State Dept authorized Direct Commercial Sales?
11:16 AM on 05/01/2012
With the possible exception of the boy in the "Danger no hip-hop" t-shirt; the "guns" are toys. I played "Cowboys & Indians" and WW2 with toy guns, and kids have done so for multiple generations. How possibly is the fact that kids (particularly boys) have for Generations played "C&I" "Cops and Robbers" or "war" with toy guns even possibly a statement about Current culture?????
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OdinsEye
Korean-Latino cop and retired military combat vet
10:49 AM on 05/01/2012
"the belligerent NRA that continues to mythologize and cloak any attempts at sane gun control as the first measures that will trigger an avalanche of attacks on "freedom." "

The NRA is the US's, if not the world's, largest firearm safety and training organization.

The NRA has supported numerous gun control measures -- in fact they were the first to ask Congress to study the idea of a background check system. They supported the law forbidding convicted felons and the dangerously mentally ill from possessing or purchasing firearms. They helped with the language of the armor piercing bullet ban. They supported the restrictions on machine guns and short barreled firearms.

The definition of "sane gun control" is in the eye of the beholder.
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CelticMajic
The answer lies in each of us individually
06:40 PM on 04/30/2012
"attempts at sane gun control" and what would those sane gun control proposals be?
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Jerry Bourbon
11:31 AM on 05/01/2012
Full civilian disarmament. Duh. Then we could live in a crime free paradise. Just like Mexicans or Brazilians do...
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IfIonlyknew
Go ahead....Say something funny.
03:03 PM on 05/01/2012
I like the way you compare us with a third world countries....You must think a lot of america.
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Cheyla
06:35 PM on 04/30/2012
This could set back human evolution several centuries - don't we have anything better to do than pretend to murder, maim, and torture innocent beings with guns??
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RevJimIII
Grin and Barret...
08:07 PM on 04/30/2012
Yet violent crimes have fallen to their lowest level in decades here in the U.S.
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Thaddeus Jude
Veteran of Occupy An Office Chair
10:52 PM on 04/30/2012
If kids play with guns intelligently, they will learn strategy.
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Hans Proppe
07:12 PM on 05/01/2012
I guess by the time they got to Columbine they got their strategy down.
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ProCynic
Those that govern intend to be our masters.
05:47 PM on 04/30/2012
When you make things taboo for children, then an unhealthy fascination develops. Having guns in the home, with instruction, and respect for handling is the answer.

Raise the drinking age to 21, more teenagers get drunk? Yep. Raise the kid with beer, wine, and liquor, even giving them watered down drinks the way some cultures do, and they develop a healthy respect for it.

Tell children they can't have sex, make it seem like something that needs to be hidden, they are going to find it on their own and you're going to be grandparents.

America has this war within. Very puritanical in many aspects.
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IfIonlyknew
Go ahead....Say something funny.
03:05 PM on 05/01/2012
Shouldn't that apply to drugs also.
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Jerry Bourbon
04:50 PM on 05/01/2012
Yes.

Next question?
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hagagaga
You can't take the sky from me.
07:20 PM on 05/01/2012
yes
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OdinsEye
Korean-Latino cop and retired military combat vet
05:44 PM on 04/30/2012
Any time you would like to photograph the other side of the story, just let me know
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Hans Proppe
11:55 PM on 04/30/2012
Just exactly what would photographs of the "other side of the story" be?
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OdinsEye
Korean-Latino cop and retired military combat vet
10:43 AM on 05/01/2012
Kids properly handling real firearms in a supervised setting; learning and practicing safety, responsibility, and respect. Not kids running around pointing (what appear in several frames to be toy) firearms at people.
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madhtr
09:03 PM on 05/01/2012
Hans, the fact that you even had to ask that question demonstrates your complete ignorance of the subject matter you claim to be creating 'art' about.