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Harry Shearer

Harry Shearer

Posted: January 19, 2011 02:43 PM

NEW YORK -- Not content with having crafted a recovery plan that helped banks and financial services firms recover far more nicely than other folks, President Obama has reached out to the rest of the business community with a plan for all federal agencies to reexamine their regulations, the Washington Post reported.

Red tape stinks, of course. Just ask the hundreds of thousands of New Orleans citizens who had to jump, dance, and pirouette through federally-mandated hoops to even hope to qualify for compensation for the damage and destruction caused by the 2005 failure of the federal "hurricane protection system." And any federal agency, like any other organization, can benefit from a brisk and clear-headed review of its policies and regulations, clearing out the outdated and the unnecessary.

Buried in the Post story on this initiative, however, are these words that should set off warning bells:

Agencies "must consider costs and benefits and choose the least burdensome path."

This sounds so reasonable, so -- to use the current cliche, common sense -- that it might seem unobjectionable. Balance costs and benefits. It's objective. Almost, pardon the expression, scientific.

Unless you've had some experience with one federal agency that has long used "benefit-cost ratio" as a supposed guide to decision-making: the US Army Corps of Engineers. Take one example -- the Mississippi River-Gulf Outlet (MRGO), which the Corps built (over local and environmental objections in the 1950s), and which a federal judge has ruled (in a landmark case) was responsible for much of the 2005 flooding on the eastern side of New Orleans and all of St. Bernard Parish.

As outlined in the book Catastrophe in the Making by, among other authors, the late William Freudenberg, the Corps' practice in this case, as in many others, is to exaggerate, sometimes wildly, the supposed future economic benefits of a construction project. At other times, as when the Corps opposes the local community's preference for the so-called Option 2 plan for permanent improvements on the outfall canals whose walls failed catastrophically in 2005, the Corps is believed to exaggerate the costs of a project it doesn't want to build.

And, as documented in The Big Uneasy, the Corps is also known to claim that emergency conditions prevented it from conducting benefit-cost analyses when, in fact, a Corps whistleblower pointed to documented evidence that precisely such an analysis existed.

The Corps may be unique among federal agencies in its willingness and ability to, let's be gentle, massage the benefit-cost analysis process. Or it may be typical. But any such analysis of regulations, especially when it concludes that safety regulations pose excessive burdens on businesses, should be taken with at least the minimum daily requirement of sodium chloride.

 

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08:53 AM on 01/25/2011
RFK,Jr., talking about the true cost-benefit of our national energy policy which relies on fossil-fuels and traditional polluting models:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p-UNk2kn-c&feature=related

At about 2minutes 30 sec. he starts talking about privatizing profits while socializing costs via hidden and direct subsidies for these corporations. Later on he talks about specifics on how we can market-ize alternative energy.

This talk is worth listening to all the way through, in my opinion. Note---For those of you who haven't heard Kennedy speak, he struggles with "spasmodic dysphonia", a condition affecting the vocal chords. Despite his disability he is probably one of the most active and dynamic public speakers in America today.
08:22 AM on 01/25/2011
For those of you apoplectic about this cost-benefit ratio edict, just check out any one of a number of environmental activist Robert F. "Bobby" Kennedy, Jr.'s speeches. He talks about calling for true cost-benefit ratios to be conducted for many of our nation's public policy choices, most especially energy and land use.

True cost-benefit ratios factor in not just "this quarter" or "next quarter" concerns, but long-term concerns like 10 years from now, or even 20 or 30 years. They also factor in previously externalized costs, like how a particular policy will affect the environment --- the air, water, wildlife--- that we all share ownership of.

I am not naiive enough to think any agency will do a "true cost benefit analysis" which includes previously externalized costs that WE citizens bear, in order for business shareholders and CEO's to rake in more profit so they can buy yet another luxury villa in Tuscany. But that shouldn't stop non-government agencies from conducting one, and publicly presenting it!!!!!

Google up one of those RFKJr. YouTube presentations to see what I'm talking about. I'll try to find a particularly good one sometime today & post a link here.

Don't despair! Our President himself has flung open this door, and though he's likely to hang back and hide behind the furniture, no reason we can't walk through it!
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10:57 PM on 01/24/2011
Another vital topic and contribution to it, Mr. Shearer - THANK YOU AGAIN.

And, of course, right you are. -sigh-
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10:29 AM on 01/24/2011
Within a month of Obama's election, FEMA repossessed most of the emergency housing from New Orleans residents. I wrote the White House, I called the 800 number. No response, just like during Katrina. I have written a dozen or so letters to the White House. They must have cut back on stationary. No replies. Honestly, what can we expect from a former crackhead in the first place? We all overshot our mark here, thinking the guy could relate to common Americans. Boy are we dumb.
08:55 AM on 01/24/2011
Actually, Harry, making all fed ags do a cost benefit ratio could be a very good thing.

If all the externalized costs were included, and the long-term "hidden" benefits totalled, that is.

For instance, our nation's extensive highway system was built and is maintained at the expense of the environment and our public quality of life, because it forces every citizen to buy and maintain a personal vehicle---or two. Other successful industrialized Western nations have an extensive muli-modal, comprehensive public transit system, which allows citizens to get around very well without a car to buy, service, and store. Citizens save thousands of dollars annually...apiece.

And, public transit systems are far easier on the environment, in extemely calculable ways.

I'd be willing to BET that the Sierra Club, the National Audubon Society, and probably Riverkeepers and Bobby Kennedy, Jr. have a bunch of these "true cost-benefit" ratios already done and in their hip pockets, waiting to be asked for them.

Make those calls today, Fed Ags!!!!!!!
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03:33 AM on 01/24/2011
Burdensome to whom? There are no qualms against oppressing the individual with patriot acts and hemp prohibition. Business have more rights than, and none of the responsibilities of the american citizen!
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12:35 AM on 01/24/2011
Unfortunately, Harry the cost benefit analysis that is being undertaken is in the eye of the beholder. Porjected budgets, revenues are always spruced up to show projects in a better light. Even "Monte Carlo" simulations projecting averages over numerous trials can still have flaws. So it is diificult to ever use cost-benefits alone. We have to use our judgement, and not just common sense whether red tape is unnecessary, or are regulations needed. Since Reagan more deregulation, on the average, has led to more problems, mostly for the consumer.
10:28 PM on 01/23/2011
How interesting. Had the Corps been a private firm, this site and Leftists of all stripes would have been screaming bloody "market failure" before the waters settled.

Unfortunately for the economy, the State has no way of knowing or even caring what regulations need to be removed. It hasn't nearly enough knowledge to determine effective "cost:benefit ratios." It has no way of calculating the unseen effects of its programs.

Political interest motivate the State, not profits. The State will almost always be willing to add new regulations so that their visible effects can be trumpeted loudly. It takes a truly awful policy for the public to take notice and finally correct the mistake.
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10:45 PM on 01/23/2011
Unfortunately for ideologues, the Corps way of working represents the worst of both the private and public sectors. Since the Reagan years, the Corps doesn't do most of its own work, contracting and subcontracting to private companies (in the case of debris cleanup from the 2005 flood, there were, according to the Times-Picayune, 5 layers of subs). The alliance of the Corps, Congress (dependent on campaign contributions), and contractors (glad to contribute) is known as the Iron Triangle.
10:59 PM on 01/23/2011
But alas, it doesn't pursue profits, which are by far the most powerful motivating agents in the business world. The Corps has no reason to build in lucrative areas. And conversely, it has no incentive to not build in places that need no work (a factor that usually correlates to costly programs) and have fragile ecosystems. It responds (as even you indicate) to the capricious whims of elected officials and worse, bureaucrats. The public has little knowledge of the system, making it unaccountable to all but entrenched interests (something that does not happen in a free market).
09:47 PM on 01/23/2011
Please keep this up. People need to know.
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08:00 PM on 01/23/2011
And we are told that President Obama is going to go even more 'centrist' in his State of the Union? He can't get more right-sided. We have corporations that are out of control and certain agencies, like the Corps, that are also out of control.
06:31 PM on 01/23/2011
So long as the CBA interprets the B (benefit) part via actual outcomes and not projected outcomes, then maybe this review will bear edible fruit.
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05:40 PM on 01/23/2011
Cost-benefit is deceptive since it sounds so rational. Consider that cost-benefit looks a whole lot different to the fox than it does to the chicken.
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05:03 PM on 01/23/2011
Harry Shearer, that's quite a different tone toward Obama's policies (and critics of those policies) than your other recent post...

What's happened?
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05:29 PM on 01/23/2011
Which post you referring to? I've been rather critical of this President since it became apparent, around about March 2009 , that (a) he was going to be no more responsive than his predecessor to the facts that underlay the near-destruction of New Orleans, and (b) he was doubling down in Afghanistan.
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05:40 PM on 01/23/2011
Whoops!
I'm embarrassed to say I confused you w/ someone else.(I'm cringing in embarrassment, now.)
I sincerely apologize. You are absolutely correct, I have heard your criticisms of Obama's policies.
I'm rather pleased, however, that you replied! Kinda cool! thanks.
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05:43 PM on 01/23/2011
You are right Mr. Shearer. I have read most of your comments and you have been critical and correctly so.
luckybear
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01:13 PM on 01/23/2011
It's quite a leap to go from a political gesture by Obama to streamline regulations, in an effort to reach out to angry business people, to hurricane Katrina. If there is one person who can take that leap it is Harry Shearer. He connects everything to Katrina.

The army corp is a politically influenced organization funded in part by ear marks. The citizens of New Orleans demanded jobs so their representatives used the power of the purse and funded the corp to provide jobs no matter what impact it had on the environment.

New Orleans had major problems long before a hurricane. Politically it is hard to win votes by ear marking money to rebuild levees and dams. You win votes by providing welfare and jobs. What sounds better several billion dollars to rebuild a dam or a federally funded project to drain a "swamp" to create 1500 jobs in the oil industry?

The answer of course is jobs. No one thought the city would get hit by a major hurricane (happens only sporadically) It is unfair to the thousands who died and the tens of thousands still hurt but that is the sad truth.

Blaming cost benefit analysis just shifts blame. Local politicians and federal representatives are responsible. There wasn't a Louisiana version of Russ Feingold. Too many people stuffing money in freezers.

Even if New Orleans had a "Feingold" they'd vote him/her out of office for not providing jobs by destroying the environment pre-Katrina.
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02:31 PM on 01/23/2011
So much ignorance, so little time. Read the ILIT or Team Louisiana report. What flooded NO wasn't a "major hurricane"--Katrina, btw, was no more than a weak cat 2 by the time it bypassed NO to the east--but the catastrophic failure of a federally-designed and -built "hurricane protection system" under surge conditions much less than the system was advertised to withstand.
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famished
08:02 PM on 01/23/2011
I have a feeling that luckybear doesn't have much of sense of history... but maybe a sense of histrionics.
10:57 AM on 01/23/2011
Following the article's example of pre Katrina decision making:

If the cost of protecting the poorer lower lying 9th ward per benefit is greater in cost and lower in benefit per dollar compared to the greater benefit and lower cost of protecting the more elevated wealthier residential and business areas, the Obama Admin. has given permission his Government agencies to justify screwing anybody they decide to if they can show that the cost/benefit ratio is better for already benefited projects or areas than already lesser benefited areas or projects cost/benefit, as an investment of that department's time and money.

So the WH is giving a green light for the poorest and neediest projects and people to be thrown under their bus.
Stand aside Sarah let the body tossing competition begin.
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Harry Shearer
02:29 PM on 01/23/2011
The Lower 9th is so-called because, after the Industrial Canal split the 9th ward in half, this half was downriver (lower) from the other half. It is not particularly low-lying.
09:19 AM on 01/24/2011
Yes...Harry said below that the 9th Ward is "not particularly low-lying". Correct.

Harry, I find this misconception to be pervasive not only across America, but here in Louisiana!!!!!

The big delineation in whether one believes the truth or this misconception, is whether one has ever lived in New Orleans. The truth we former New Orleanians know is that the Lower 9th is actually one of the sections of New Orleans with the highest elevations. Many of its structures only got a few inches to a couple feet of water and some didn't flood at all.

By comparison, some of the most wealthiest areas of N.O. were actually some of the worst flooded Lakeview, Lake Vista = TWELVE FEET of water, plenty with 5 to 8 feet, Broadmoor/Central City/City Park area, 5 to 8 feet.

The dichotomy in rebuild speed is directly proportionate to the wealth and status of the area's individual residents. Much of the re-build across the area has been done, at least initally with citizens' out-of-pocket resources. Some were later , usually partially reimbursed by government programs, and some not. These were people who could afford to wait, and still eat.

Also, property titles in the 9th were, are, and have been a mess. Rehabbing a house one doesn't own or even formally rent---but maybe shares non-succession ownership with 200 other heirs---is simply not legally possible.