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Obama's $36 Billion Nuke-Powered Giveaway

Posted: 02/15/11 12:57 PM ET

Barack Obama's 2012 budget marks a major escalation in the nuclear war against a green-powered future, whose advocates are already fighting back.

Amidst massive budget cuts for social and environmental programs, Obama wants $36 billion in loan guarantees for a reactor industry that cannot secure sufficient private "marketplace" financing for new construction.

In the past decade the reactor industry has spent at least $640 million lobbying for these massive advance bailouts. But since 2007, safe energy advocates have succeeded in keeping them out of the federal budget.

The $36 billion Obama wants to underwrite new reactor construction would be added to $18.5 billion set aside under George W. Bush. In 2010 Obama allocated $8.33 billion of that for two reactors under construction in Georgia. The Continuing Resolution for funding the government until the end of the 2011 fiscal year slashes all loan guarantees for energy except those for nuclear reactors and uranium enrichment.

Obama's proposed 2012 budget does contain some additional money for renewables. But it also allocates $97 million for Small Modular Reactors (SMRs) which are untested and unproven. SMRs are vulnerable to public health, radioactive waste and potential terror problems that parallel those plaguing the larger light water reactors that have proven so economically and ecologically disastrous throughout the past half-century.

Industry allies in Congress are joining the White House in trying to classify such both large and small reactors as "clean energy." Though cosmetic, the designation would allow reactor backers to fit atomic power under the rubric of long-term goals for cleaning up America's hugely polluting energy supply.

Price tags for proposed new reactors have recently doubled and tripled. Projected at $2-3 billion as few as three years ago, proposed projects in Florida, Texas and elsewhere have soared to $10 billion and more.

The Congressional Budget Office has warned that the failure rate for reactor loan guarantees could well exceed 50%. The economic history of atomic power has been catastrophic, with the previous generation of reactors coming in on average around 200% over original cost projections. Reactors now under construction in Finland and France have soared to billions of dollars over budget and are years behind schedule.

In Georgia, where rate-payers are being forced to fund reactor construction even if the plant never opens, critics fear costs at the Vogtle site are certain to soar. New projects proposed for Texas, Maryland and South Carolina are also plagued by financial doubts.

At the same time, major breakthroughs in solar cell technology have prompted a wide range of studies showing deployment of green energy to be cheaper than new atomic power, and growing moreso.

But while slashing social programs, Obama seems determined to use taxpayer money to fund a radioactive technology that grows ever more expensive and uncompetitive.

Can the green power movement again stop the new loan guarantees, as it's done since 2007?

"This year, with more public attention on government spending, it seems even unlikelier that Congress will approve" more nuke guarantees, says Michael Mariotte, Executive Director of the Nuclear Information & Resource Service.

For a green-powered future, says Mariotte, "no funding for new reactors is acceptable."

 
Barack Obama's 2012 budget marks a major escalation in the nuclear war against a green-powered future, whose advocates are already fighting back. Amidst massive budget cuts for social and environmen...
Barack Obama's 2012 budget marks a major escalation in the nuclear war against a green-powered future, whose advocates are already fighting back. Amidst massive budget cuts for social and environmen...
 
 
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John B Krug
09:23 AM on 02/26/2011
Mr. Wasserman advocates good ideas.. I think his anti-nuclear power one is not one of them. Also, the lawyers in love luddite politics of true believers is not a fair offense. The emotional chasers that some throw in with this stance is abusive...Such is life. Argument clinics suck up my time. I hope, but time is likely not on my side. I need to use it wisely... As for alternative sources of power, many are helpful but by far not enough to meet the rising and consistant demand. How much solar power is produced at night or in bad weather? What about energy production when the wind dies down?? I think wrapping politics around and against a proven and factually safe technology isn't progressive...My opinions. Blog arguments at each other as you wish....Loitering in the clinic doesn't get my other things done though. Good morning!!
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Eric Flanagan
He who stands for nothing falls for everything.
07:39 PM on 02/21/2011
Mr. Wasserman, how you done any research on current, keyword "current" nuclear technology? What about the "giveaways" to unproven wind, solar, and other "green" technologies. How many 1GW or even 500MW solar or wind plants are there out there that can generate that level of power 24/7 with 90% uptime? What about the fact that 95% of the rare-earth materials needed for the magnets in a wind turbine come from China; does that worry you? A little open-mindedness would be nice.
06:48 PM on 02/18/2011
Mr. Wasserman and others like him are not really scared by the loan guarantees to the nuclear industry since those were actually approved many years ago. What really scares Mr. Wasserman is the possibility of nuclear energy being legally labeled "clean". Once that happens then it is only a few small steps to declare large hydro "clean" as well.

In fact, large hydro alone would fulfill renewable energy standards already legislated in many states. That is one of the reasons people such as Mr. Wasserman made sure large hydro was purposefully excluded from the legal language used to develop renewable portfolio standard bills passed by various state legislatures over the past decade.

Why would nuclear and large hydro not meet clean energy standards? Neither type of power plant discharge emissions during the process of generating electrical energy.

Why does California, Washington and other states only allow hydro facilities 30 MW and under to be declared "clean" and "renewable" Why would a 30 MW hydro facility be any different than a 800MW hydro facility? That makes no sense unless of course your real business is creating markets for direct cash payouts to the wind and solar industries while providing additional markets to sell natural gas.

The slow death spiral of the wind and solar industries once nuclear energy is legally declared "clean" is what really gives Mr. Wasserman nightmares, not the additional loan guarantees.
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08:14 AM on 02/20/2011
As solar and wind get cheaper it becomes easier for people to see that nuclear power is just another form of sunk cost, like any non-renewable.
03:30 PM on 02/20/2011
And when will that happen?

The federal push for more solar and wind through direct cash subsidies started around 1978. I can go back and pull up articles from decades ago that say basically the same thing over and over again: "Solar and wind will be cheaper in the future".

It’s similar to what Robert Bryce states when he discusses EV’s: "The electric car is the next best thing and always will be"

And it does not matter how cheap solar panels are to buy or install. What really matters from a legal and financial concern is that the market has been rigged by people such as Mr. Wasserman to exclude large hydro and nuclear from being labeled "clean". This was accomplished through political gamesmanship years ago for the primary purpose of excluding competition and forcing the government to mandate the use of weak technologies when better options are on the table.

Solar and wind are not stand-alone technologies which makes them weak from a grid reliability standpoint as was discovered in dramatic fashion in Texas.

Adding more wind and solar does not add capacity to the grid. They only temporarily displace gas turbines or hydro resources. In fact wind and solar really do not displace that much natural gas since the turbines are required to be spinning reserve mode by FERC which means they are still burning gas, just not as much.

http://theenergycollective.com/ansorg/48350/fitting-wind-electricity-grid
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Bryan Elliott
02:53 PM on 02/18/2011
How can you characterize a loan program as a "giveaway"? Of all the nuclear builds in the US, a very small number of them have failed. Of those, almost none have been unprofitable. Meanwhile, these are high yield loans with strict requirements for their disbursement, including the need for a full operating license to be granted, and, effectively, a 20% down payment. The US will get its money back with interest, and in the meanwhile gets a chunk to start with.
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01:49 AM on 02/18/2011
Nuclear proponents love it when discussion is about the technicalities of their technology. You'll see comments about how reliable it is, how it's used safely shipboard, how other countries are adopting it, how the waste "problem" isn't really an issue because it's "fuel" for nonexistent vapour ware reactors.

They really really really dislike discussion of the economics. The economics are a failure for nuclear power. Life-cycle costs give the game away. No plant in the USofA (or France, or the UK or Germany) has been constructed on budget, collected enough money for waste storage, or for decommissioning. Consequently it IS making sense to run these financial black holes for longer to further amortise the storage and decommissioning costs, still with no guarantee that there's enough in the kitty.

Ultimately, the money spent on nuclear is sunk. We could be changing the energy efficiency profiles of these economies and installed solar-PV, largely leaving the existing nuclear plants to run their course while decommissioning coal plant. That should buy enough time to get excellent geothermal resource developed, wind, CSP etc.... Renewables are an investment. Non-renewables are sunk costs.
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Michael Mann
Nuclear Educator
04:35 AM on 02/18/2011
Nuclear power foes have made millions for lawyers with lawsuits designed to waste time and money with no technical basis. You will find that if it's profitable, they will impede solar and wind projects almost as diligently as nuclear energy projects. There is no technical or safety issue with how nuclear energy is produced or spent fuel is being handled.
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Fissionary
03:26 PM on 02/18/2011
Tell all of those reactors that were paid for in the 1970's which are licensed to run intil 2040 that their power is too expensive. Last I checked, something that takes 10 years to pay for but makes money for 60 to 80 years is a sound investment.
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02:06 AM on 02/17/2011
Wasserman made the following assertion:

"At the same time, major breakthroughs in solar cell technology have prompted a wide range of studies showing deployment of green energy to be cheaper than new atomic power, and growing moreso."

I have been tracking this claim for the past six months. It is traceable to a single paper that was commissioned by an organization named NC Warn whose mission statement clearly shows that they oppose nuclear energy and support alternatives like solar.

"NC WARN is a member-based nonprofit tackling the accelerating crisis posed by climate change – along with the various risks of nuclear power – by watch-dogging utility practices and working for a swift North Carolina transition to energy efficiency and clean power generation."

The SINGLE paper was written by a former economics professor from Duke named Blackburn who retired to Florida more than 20 years ago. He was assisted by a candidate for a master's degree in environmental management who happens to be attending Duke.

The paper has been the subject of an echo chamber of articles CLAIMING that it was a study by Duke University; those articles do not make up a "wide range of studies." The NY Times version of the story displays an editorial note disclaiming the result.

The paper showed that installed rooftop solar systems produced electricity costing 35 cents per kw-hr, but it publicized the computed cost AFTER taxpayers picked up 65% of the installation cost.
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Fissionary
12:50 PM on 02/17/2011
They don't let us favorite somthing more than once.

In the words of Howard Cosell - Down goes Wasserman.
03:43 PM on 02/17/2011
Two studies to consider:

http://www.cleanenergy.org/images/factsheets/Lazard2009_LevelizedCostofEnergy.pdf

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/energy-smart/nuclear-power-failing-price-test-20101130-18fjb.html

From the second:

"The paper, to be given at a solar industry conference in Canberra today, finds the cheapest renewable energy sources – including landfill gas, onshore wind, conventional geothermal and hydro – are already cost-competitive with conventional nuclear energy power plants.

By 2020, offshore wind farms, solar thermal and solar photovoltaics are all projected to be less expensive than nuclear energy."

List of papers by Mark Diesendorf here:

http://www.ies.unsw.edu.au/staff/mark.html
08:49 PM on 02/17/2011
Like all junk science proponents we have math professor Mark Diesendorf pretending to be an engineer . Not peer reviewed nor published in a reputable journal.

Here's some real professional electrical engineers in a recent peer reviewed article in rhe prestigious publication Energy kicking Diesendorf 's nonsense out of the ballpark.

http://theenergycollective.com/barrybrook/47728/nuclear-least-cost-low-carbon-baseload-power-source
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Green Power Eco-Author/Activist
11:54 AM on 02/16/2011
The only thing "green" about atomic power is the color of the money its corporate pushers lavish on those in government who funnel taxpayer billions their way. The true root of the atomic giveaway is the federal limit on liability form a major disaster. After 50 years the industry can only muster $11 billion in private coverage against potential accidents that could do trillions of dollars in damage. Chernobyl killed 985,000 people and did at least a half-trillion in property destruction in just 2 countries, not counting all the others blanketed with radiation. Atomic power is a failed technology. If Obama was serious about solving our energy crisis, he'd abolish all subsidies to King CONG (coal, oil, nukes & gas) and begin to transition to a truly green-powered Earth. That would require shedding the core of corporate support that is the real power behind this government. But it is where we must go to save our nation and theplanet.
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Malcolm Hensley
Last of the Reagan Republicans
03:22 PM on 02/16/2011
Last I checked even the numbers from GreenPeace's were about a tenth of the number you claim!
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Fissionary
04:01 PM on 02/16/2011
Harvey - only the biased study financed by you and the other fanatics at Greenpeace comes up with bogus numbers like that for Chernobyl.

The World Health Organization - you know, REPUTABLE DOCTORS, said 56 people died as a direct result of Chernobyl.

You can lie until you're read in the face but you can't change the truth.
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Malcolm Hensley
Last of the Reagan Republicans
11:35 AM on 02/16/2011
Have you seen all the new nuclear power plant plans for Asia? China 2009 consumed over 45% of all the coal burnt on the planet and at the rate they are going through coal they will have exhausted its proven reserves in about 30 years! There reserves are the 4th largest on the planet. The U.S. at current consumption has over 250 years in reserve.

China has learned the key to wealth the key to prosperity is cheap energy not cheap labor! That's why the Asian nations are planning and building more nuclear power plants!

Look I want green energy but anyone who thinks you can compete in a free trade world using green energy verses nations using cheap dirty coal energy needs to mail back their engineering diploma!

Why has China captured over 50% of the solar cell business in less than 10 years in what are basically automated factories? Cheap dirty coal energy! Why did Intel build its largest microchip factory in Viet Nam? Cheap coal energy!

Nuclear is the only non CO2 emissions energy source that can compete with dirty coal energy and that is only if we keep the lawsuits down!

We could become an isolationist nation and transform to green energy but it really doesn't address the Climate Change issue does it?
10:11 AM on 02/16/2011
I'm sorry but Obama said he was going to do this. I don't see the outcry over this. Most of us are Obama supporters, and that said you should already know what he feels on issues like nuclear energy
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Fissionary
04:02 PM on 02/16/2011
That's because 51% of Democrats and 75% of Republicans support nuclear power. Harvey is trying to use buzz wards to anger his readers, and it isn't working.
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Bryan Elliott
03:14 PM on 02/18/2011
Liberal in favor of nuclear energy, right here. That's why. I usually have reservations about calling people out as liars, given the ease for which the claim can be mistaken for an ad hom attack, but Wasserman has repeatedly shown that he is happy to simply make up claims and numbers in his assault on nuclear power.

What's sad is, I don't think Wasserman lies for the sake of money; I think it's that he's been on this kick since he was a teenager, and can't swallow his pride long enough to look at the issue objectively, see the damage to the environment caused by anti-nuclear propaganda, see the exaggeration of danger proposed thereby, and change his mind. It's a large crow to eat, I understand - but it's become more cowardice than anything else, in my opinion.

'Course, I'm a programmer, not a psychologist.
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Michael Mann
Nuclear Educator
08:06 AM on 02/16/2011
Nuclear Power IS GREEN energy, new nuclear power is a huge win for the environment! Don't be fooled by Harvey's anti-nuclear rant. Nuclear power has been demonstrated to be safer, cleaner, more economical and more reliable than any alternative.
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atomicrod
Atomic professional
06:55 AM on 02/16/2011
Harvey does not seem to understand the difference between a "giveaway" that takes money away from other programs and a loan guarantee that results in immediate revenue to the federal government plus the opportunity for 30 years of above average interest payments as the loan is repaid.

Nuclear energy is such a good investment that the German government recently decided to allow its nuclear plants to continue operating so that it could collect a new tax of $2.3 billion marks against just 17 plants. Though the owners were not terribly happy about paying extra taxes, the certainty that they would be allowed to operate their well-built, carefully maintained facilities has resulted in a subsequent announcement that two reactors that were shut down a few years ago because they needed some minor investments will soon be restarted.

The only real risk that has kept many financial sources away from loaning money to nuclear plants is one that Wasserman himself helped to add to the mix - the "Shoreham syndrome". That is my own name for the risk that a nuclear plant can be completely built and licensed - at the cost of several billion dollars - and then prevented from operating and earning revenue by the political act of a hack who owes his career to the fossil fuel companies who supported his campaign.

Rod Adams
Publisher, Atomic Insights
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Michael Mann
Nuclear Educator
08:24 AM on 02/16/2011
Building new nuclear power plants improves the infrastructure for economic growth, provides thousands of construction jobs (5yrs) and hundreds of operating careers (60yrs) talk with people who live in communities hosting a nuclear power plant. This country needs the clean reliable electric power and the jobs nuclear energy can provide, loan guarantees are a great way to promote building at zero cost to the government, in fact they can make money on the deal.
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01:53 AM on 02/18/2011
In part they are operating the plants longer because the economics of decommissioning are still dismal.
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Michael Mann
Nuclear Educator
12:04 PM on 02/18/2011
Mostly they are running the plants longer because they are running better than ever, with higher capacity factors and safety statistics. They are safe, clean, reliable and profitable to run, who in their right mind would want to shut them down?
01:31 PM on 02/18/2011
Do you realize what you wrote? Allow me to insert "house" into your post.

"In part, my parents are still living in their 40-year old house because the economics of tearing it down and buying a new house are still dismal."

Why on earth would we wont to tear these plants down, they are operating just fine. If you are confused with the difference between the length of an operating license and the useful lifetime of a reactor, I image there are a couple of people on this thread who would be willing to explain it to you or at least point you to a good source of information.
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Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
07:40 PM on 02/15/2011
Chu loves nukes and "clean" fossil. Chu hates green energy. Chu's official report didn't even break solar and wind out of "hydro and others". Chu's report use years old costs for solar and wind, and future corporate predictions of what fossils and nukes will costs. Just more of Obama's trickle down, privatize, deregulate Reagan DLC conservatism. Vote for liberals.
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Fissionary
04:05 PM on 02/16/2011
You're not grasping the situation Genders. Mainstream liberals now support nuclear power. What that? An issue that both parties can agree on? Say it aint so.

Only Harvey and the violent fanatics who attacked and injured security officers at a power plant in Spain yesterday are left on the fringe opposing nuclear power.
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Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
08:15 PM on 02/16/2011
You mean the billions pro nuke propaganda worked????? Dream on, lots of people are still aware of Nuclear power critical problems: proliferation, terrorism, accidents and waste.