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Kim Kardashian: Domestic Abuser?

Posted: 12/02/11 11:19 AM ET

People are horrified over the episode of Keeping Up with the Kardashian's in which Kim Kardashian takes a closed fist swing at husband Kris Humphries. Despite the entire scenario being caught on camera, many viewers are still wondering -- is this domestic violence?

How is this a disputable question? Though some have tried to downplay her violent reaction by calling it "playful," throwing a fist at your husband is not playful and technically falls under the category of domestic violence. It seems that because Kim is a woman people are confused as to whether or not her action falls into the "domestic violence" category. My answer: yes, it absolutely does.

Here is the dictionary definition of domestic violence "violence committed by one family or household member against another -- see also restraining order." They are husband and wife therefore it certainly qualifies. If they were strangers and she did this is would still be labeled violence just not domestic violence.

Are people quick to defend her because she is physically smaller and weaker than her husband therefore he should be able to "take it?" No man deserves the humiliation and pain that goes along with being beat up by a woman despite whether or not he can physically "take it." The emotional and psychological impact lasts long after the physical bruises have faded. Men are often silent victims when it comes to being victims of rape and/or domestic violence. Male victims of domestic abuse and rape deal with even more societal stigmatization than female victims, who have it rough as it is. Society unfairly labels men who "complain" about violence from a partner as "not real men" or just plain weak. This is wrong. Anytime a person is abused by a family member it is domestic violence whether it is a female or male throwing the punches.

The most alarming thing in this Kardashian scenario is that her immediate reaction was to throw a closed fist punch at him. If it was as "playful" as her public relations team would like you to believe, she may have just swatted him away or lightly smacked him. Those reactions are not necessarily acceptable, but certainly not as shocking as throwing a punch. And imagine how outraged Americans would be if it was the other way around: Kris throwing the punch at Kim. What do you think?

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People are horrified over the episode of Keeping Up with the Kardashian's in which Kim Kardashian takes a closed fist swing at husband Kris Humphries. Despite the entire scenario being caught on camer...
People are horrified over the episode of Keeping Up with the Kardashian's in which Kim Kardashian takes a closed fist swing at husband Kris Humphries. Despite the entire scenario being caught on camer...
 
 
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03:52 PM on 01/22/2012
The fact that the local authorities would not press charges for this goes a long way to explain the imbalances when it comes to the number of charges laid against men vs women.

Simply put... authorities won't press charges against a pretty woman simply because she is a pretty woman.
02:55 AM on 12/07/2011
the entire family is abusive and really surprised people are now reacting to Kim's physically punching Kris which I didn't see because I didn't watch the show. Whether it was not meant to be violent on her part and just the way she expresses herself. It is not surprising that this would be the norm for this family. Her mother is less than stellar and enjoys humiliating, manipulating and controlling her husband and kids entire lives. Her children react disrespectfully and abusive to each other and seem to enjoy humiliating one another...this family has a problem coping with things. Their way of smoothing over a problem is to bulldoze right over it until it's gone.
10:40 AM on 01/01/2012
Good point, deedee53! And I'll just bet there's more swinging violence from the K females that are not caught on tape. Bruce is an ex-athlete who clearly appears terrified of his wife. I think it took tremendous self control for Kris not to swing back at Kim. And very few, if any, would feel sorry for her.
03:54 PM on 12/06/2011
She should totaly have some type of reprimand for this. It is clearly a case of DV. As soon as she realized what she was doing she tried to brush it off like she was joking.
When that girl on "Teen Mom" or one of those other shows hit her baby's father she was arrested and everything. What makes her so F-ing special that she gets away with it?
I also agree, if it was him hitting her the exact same way; trying to pass it as a joke; he would have been charged or investigated for sure!
10:41 AM on 01/01/2012
Ever thin that maybe Kim only appears to " get away with it" because it's scripted?
09:34 AM on 12/06/2011
Of course it was domestic violence, just like during the wedding planning she showed both verbal and emotional abuse. She also showed extreme disrespect with participating in the "naked yoga" scene. If she was a man, she would be persecuted by the media and prosecuted by the law. Kim K. is a disgusting person who gives real women a bad rap. The backlash against her, her product endorements and her whole family just goes to show you that karma always gets you whether good or bad.
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08:00 AM on 12/06/2011
You know why some women are so defensive of Kim? They know that once the media decides to focus on "men's issues" that the landscape is changing and that public opinion is shifting toward a no nonsense approach to DV. Once that happens legislation to govern that behavior will soon follow. Women will lose the privilege of abusing men. It may take some time, but cliques like "Men should never hit a women" or "men should just walk away", or "he must have done something to deserve it" or "real men should never do this or that"...is coming to an end.

No longer will angry abusive hateful women "get off" on seeing men punished just because they are men. :)
10:39 AM on 12/06/2011
I hope you are right Ed.

After all, just a few weeks ago we had Sharon Osborne (and company) on The Talk celebrating the castration of a man by a woman and the whole (female) studio audience found it hilarious. The guy's supposed offense: he wanted a divorce. Now imagine just for a moment if a man were to sexually mutilate a woman simply because she wanted a divorce....and imagine if some male commentator would laugh it off as a huge "well she got hers"-style joke. The guy would be out on his ear. That would have been a story for HP to do...but I don't believe HP did.

Anyway, I applaud HP for actually having the gonadal fortitude to tentatively consider men's issues and perhaps even take an egalitarian POV (instead of the default gynocentric POV) on gender issues.
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12:08 PM on 12/06/2011
Yeah, I saw clips of that show, and I also saw how excuses were made for the criminal in that case. Women/people like that, in my opinion, clearly hate men. For something like that to happen to a person...then for people to laugh and joke about it is despicable. Many women secretly feel that some men deserve whatever bad thing happens to them. In their sick mind some perceived wrong or hurt that they suffered by the hand of some guy in their life past or present justifies this sort of thing.To them it is a score for the home team. That is why you get all the "you go girls" and "He must have done something to deserve it" type of comments from the radicals.

It is why abuse by the hand of women is never really taken seriously. Some women love to hit/abuse guys and it has nothing to do with femininity or women being more emotional. But it has more to do with control, punishment, AND putting men in their place. It's pay back plan and simple. And the justice system and legislative laws favor women in this area. But if society starts focusing on men they know the jig will be up soon and they are scared.
02:22 PM on 12/05/2011
The thing with situation like these is that they are more volatile then they appear. What if she does not miss? Chances are Kris would use more force to defend himself, and might grab her wrist hard enough to hurt her and leave a mark, or push her away hard enough for her to get hurt. If Kim had been hurt in any way following the altercation, Kris would be the one doing jail time if anything is reported. Is it DV? Could have been if someone had gotten hurt and most likely Kris would be the one in trouble since that would make him the predominant aggressor
02:49 PM on 12/05/2011
I dissagree This was domestic violence. Kim wanted to controll the situation, she became angery and lashed out with violence. Kim should be held acountable.
06:38 PM on 12/05/2011
As someone who is a victim of domestic violence I disagree with you.Her taking a swing at him,with a closed fist,is indeed domestic violence.Had he been the one to do it people would be screaming for him to be arrested instead of brushing this off.Do you seriously believe it is only domestic violence if someone got hurt?So when my ex-husband shoved me it wasn't domestic violence because I didn't fall? I mean that is what you are saying by making that comment.Nobody EVER has the right to lay a hand on another person out of anger period! When that happens in a relationship it most certainly is domestic violence. What she did was out of anger.It wasn't cute,it was uncalled for,and she should be held accountable since she was the aggressor. I say it is time for those who disagree with how she behaved in this instance to start .making phone calls to the police where this happened demanding that something be done.Send them copies of this if you have to.I am sick of how this family behaves.Kim is a spoiled brat who acted out in a violent way and that is not ok
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02:17 PM on 12/05/2011
The Kardashian family is a joke and I have watched only as much of their show as Joel McHale has mocked on "The Soup". This thread, however, is FASCINATING--primarily the double-standard, and the pathological need to consider irrelevant facts (he PASSED GAS AT HER!) when determining whether her actions constituted domestic abuse.

Not having seen the video, I have no idea other than what I read about it here. The general consensus here, even by her defenders, is that she did indeed punch him in anger (and not in self-defense). In an unbiased world, that's game over.
01:39 PM on 12/05/2011
The problem is that Kim and her family are front and center in the news and many people watch them on a regular basis. She has put herself out there as an icon and with that comes responsibility which she has ignored. When she chose to hit her husband she is telling her audience it’s ok to abuse your family – it’s not ok and never will be ok. If she really wants to be a role model she should come out and tell her fans she was wrong and that what she did is not acceptable.

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02:52 PM on 12/05/2011
I agree. I hope Kim does the right thing and turns herself in for domestic assault. I believe that would show everyone that she wants to be hald acountable for her domestic assault on her husband
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mspatz4u
01:13 PM on 12/07/2011
Good luck with that!
12:49 PM on 12/05/2011
Thank you Hayley Rose Horzepa. I have allways said this was domestic violence and was called names for saying so. I am amazed when a woman abuses a man people allways down play the violence againts men. People allways bring up a man is stronger. People will bring up every excuse to get off the subject, a woman who abuses a man. People get angery when the news media brings up a male victim. I find that most people have an agenda when it comes to domestic violence and male victims of domestic violence are not part of that agenda. I do feel Kim should be arrested and charged with domestic assault. Im sure I will get replys from people calling me crazy and bring up all the same excuses why this isnt domestic violence
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01:29 PM on 12/05/2011
Very good points here- people are often partial to blaming the victim (regardless of gender) because that is easier than examining the real issues at play. Many times I find that people who blame the victim were at one time victims themselves- silent victims who never did anything about their victimization therefore they do not feel the need to lend their support others because no one lent their support to them. This is a resentful way to do things...

As a survivor who advocates against abuse and domestic violence, I do get messages and emails from male victims. In our society victims are shamed into silence- especially males. Men are often seen as the perpetrators of these types of crimes. The people who victimized me were men, but I am not going to blame the entire male population for their crime; I am not going to not call out a domestic abuser just because it's a woman throwing the punches. Men may need more support when it comes to to speaking out and recognizing domestic violence against their gender because it is so misunderstood...
01:44 PM on 12/05/2011
The reason people get so angry is to admit that men can be victims challenges at least two important assertions:

* By feminists (and therefore much of the media and culture): men hit to control women and DV is about power. Obviously, if one can demonstrate that women are at least as violent as men in intimate situations, this would undermine much of their belief in the patriarchy, male privilege, and the "bondage" and female servitude they believe occurs in marriage.

* By traditional culture: a man is weak if he is beaten up by a woman. Of course this same traditional culture would probably also find it offensive if he defends himself by hitting the woman, so it is really an unfair point of view.

Personally, I figure men and women are supposed to be equal, right? To put it another way, a woman doesn't get to demand - and be given - equal rights on the one hand, and special treatment on the other. This is equality folks.
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12:33 PM on 12/05/2011
I saw that part of the show and she was in a rage, she was not kidding around.
09:48 AM on 12/05/2011
I saw the show in question and "yes", she did display domestic violence against Kris. She came at him so forcefully that I wondered what she could physically do if it were a woman she hit in the manner. When she caught herself and realized that she was on camera, you could see her whole demenor change and smile like she was joking. that was no joke my friends!!!! She wanted to hurt him really bad for ruining her pedicure. She was abusing Kris the entire time planning the wedding, emotionally like his opinion did not count for anything.
09:29 AM on 12/05/2011
The proven fact is women are just as violent as men in intimate situations. The research actually shows they are MORE violent then men. It is also demonstrated that women use violence is very similar ways and for similar reasons (e.g. power). The idea that women are only violent in self defense is a Duluth Model Myth.

See http://www.mediaradar.org/research.php for references.

To add insult to injury (literally), often if a man reports DV then it is he not she who gets charged.

The "never hit a woman" mindset is a two way street. If you are female and you don't want to get hit, then you shouldn't start it in the first place.
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11:32 AM on 12/05/2011
As a woman I have always agreed with your last paragraph. I remember when I was like 21 I swung at a BF because I was so drunk. I asked him the next day why he didn't hit me back. He said he'd never hit a woman. I was like "wow I deserved at least a smack".
01:29 PM on 12/08/2011
Teenage girls are statistically more likely to strike first then teenage boys....so your not alone.
12:55 PM on 12/05/2011
Great Post LanceSmith. Research has proven men are victims of severe domestic violence at a higher rate than women. When I bring up the research or studys, I recieve the same old excuses and hate replys. I am sure this article will not go over well with alot of Huffpost commenters.
04:02 PM on 12/05/2011
It honestly goes against nature for a man to let a woman physically abuse him. Its more common for a woman because our wiring is much different than a mans. Plus men are a lot stronger than women so they have more of an ability to harm us than we do them. If a man does allow it there is something seriously wrong with him. Men are hunters and gatherers so its not common to hear about. I've never known any man that allows a woman to beat him. Men either walk away quickly or the violent ones strike back. Im not saying it can't happen because anything is possible but geeze its kind of crazy when it does.
08:23 AM on 12/05/2011
If a man verbally or physically attacks another man he knows he'll be attacked in return. The second a woman does this she is now the aggressor and deserves to be attacked back. Just because you lose a fight doesn't mean you didn't start it.
10:35 PM on 12/05/2011
whats up OJ....
01:33 PM on 12/08/2011
The law always recognizes the aggressor is at fault....unless it is female on male violence. Did you ever hear of a small man getting off when striking a large man first ? Never happen. Sorry, the laws are clear, they are just not enforced equally.
02:38 PM on 12/08/2011
I don't condone anyone hitting anyone else first, but the size - and muscle mass! - differential between the average man and the average woman amounts to the man having a deadly weapon. If a smaller man attacks a much larger man, and the larger man then beats him to death or puts him in a coma, that's still murder or assault. It's absurd to simply disregard the fact that a large man has a physical advantage on a small woman similar to the advantage a grown woman would have on a small child. Unless an external weapon is involved, the male muscle mass IS a weapon, one that no women other than body builders could ever hope to match.
07:44 AM on 12/05/2011
How much money have they made out of all of this. OMG and they are still in the news. Its really wrong how this can make you rich. I will admit not a fan of any of it. But they have landed a millionaire status out of it!!
09:41 AM on 12/05/2011
I sincerely think the show has to be cancelled, teeneger girls are fans of Kim, and the violence from women has to be condamned as well as the one from men. The show is worse day by day. Teneeger has to be protected by the communauty from the Kardashian wildness. Good Rating should not allow Etv to aire what is not sustainable.
12:58 PM on 12/05/2011
@ globallovebook. I believe you missed the topic. Kim is an abuser and she got away with domestic violence.
05:33 AM on 12/06/2011
I am sorry I replied to a Kims divorce story. I hit wrong comment section I think..your right
09:26 AM on 12/04/2011
People! People!!! Everyone needs to calm down, remember this show is fake! they act out what they think will bring ratings in. The fact you are all disputing this incident is proof. Thats what this family wants is for people to watch and talk about them! I truly wish this show would disappear along with all the talk about this family. we are the ones who are making them rich!
11:25 AM on 12/05/2011
Are you suggesting that, because the indecent was staged (in your opinion, do you have any evidence to support this theory?), that it doesn't deserve legitimate discussion? Perhaps you are suggesting that this isn't real and never actually happens in real life?

Really, it sounds to me like you are attempting to downplay this, to silence the discussion on male victims of domestic abuse... why is that?
12:12 PM on 12/05/2011
Yeah, switch genders (have him hit her) and see if you would be defending him the same way you are defending her.

As for your other points, I couldn't agree more (the show should go), but that fact doesn't diminish the fact that she perpetrated violence against her husband (or whatever).