A Message to Hillary Clinton, Part 1: "Don't Look Back"
You make think that what your supporters want is "fight," but what we want is leadership.
And a president who will get up everyday and fight the important fights. Sometimes the unwinnable fights are important -- (healthcare, education, jobs, civil rights) -- and sometimes they are not -- (4 votes from a committee who were really doing their honest best to make chicken salad out of chicken shit).
So please ignore the voices that are encouraging you to make a fight over the 4 delegates left on the table.
There are two primaries to go. And then it is Decision Day for the rest of the delegates -- the superdelegates. There are some good arguments for you left to make to the superdelegates who must make their decision based on who they want to be the nominee.
I just read the polls on RealClearPolitics.com. They say that in a general election matchup you beat John McCain in a majority of the 19 targeted battleground states more easily than Barack Obama can. In 5 key states, you can beat McCain and so far he can't. He only beats McCain in 3 states that you lose.
I personally believe that Barack Obama can beat John McCain in November too. But the polls show, at least for now, that you would give us a more comfortable cushion for the inevitable ebb and flow of campaign politics.
For the next 24 hours, make your case based on the electability argument. It may be persuasive. Democrats really want to win this election in the fall.
Don't stir up our base with anger and the irrationality of the "if onlys." Let the Rules and Bylaws Committee decision go. Those 4 delegates don't matter at this point.
You are a great leader. Lead your supporters with the right argument.
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We have 155 days left until the election. Let's take a few of them and catch our breath before expending it all shouting at each other.
If your candidate is the one who is winning, rejoice in that. If your candidate is the one who is losing, rejoice in having run a great, historic race. Believe it or not, this should be a time for all of us to celebrate.
With very minor hiccups, it was a hard, but fair race and it was so close because we had two excellent candidates. Let's not allow their minor differences and basic, fundamental agreements on issues and principles be swept aside by emotional differences between their supporters.
Please, oh please. Your shouting at each other at this point accomplishes nothing. If you are so disillusioned that feel you will never vote again or won't vote for the other Democrat, please take that feeling away in silence. Your shouted animosity does neither you nor your country any good.
Please think now of what is best for our country. For our children and our grandchildren. For now, put being an American before your identity as a man, a woman or whatever color or religion you are.
Heheh....W
Misogynist? Come on. Yes, there were some jerks in Obama's camp that went over the line, such as with the "monster" comment. Those people were duly tossed.
Likewise, there have been some over-the-line comments from the Clinton camp.
Neither camp should be judged by those wild comments, unless you are going to judge BOTH camps by the stupid comments of their underlings. Take your choice.
I was mostly out registering voters for the Democratic Party. I'm on our county's Democratic Executive Committee and what matters more to me than anything is putting a good Democrat into the White House. We increased our Democratic registration by over 20% during our primary.
I've been an Obama supporter, but a lot of the people I registered voted for Clinton. My wife has been a steadfast Clinton supporter and she's also our precinct's committeeperson. We attended rallies together for both Obama and Clinton (I missed shaking Hillary's hand, but we both got to press the flesh with Obama).
I must admit that I started out leaning slightly toward Clinton, but as I saw the campaign unfolding I wound up in Obama's camp. However, at no time have I felt that Clinton wouldn't make a great president and I would have backed her 100%.
I've been disappointed in how Clinton's campaign was run, but for that I mostly blame the professionals on her campaign, such as Mark Penn. With better people, she would have won.
So, that's what my attitude has been.
AAAHHHH BLUE ON BLUE......
I disagree.
The Rules and Bylaws Committee- what a sham.
If they wanted to placate- soften up us Hillary supporters.
They had an opportunity and again they took a pass.
Dully noted.
Hillary need not do anything.
The burden is on Obama and his insulting supporters to tell us why we should back him.
For me, all options are on the table.
Hillary should quit the Democratic Party like Reagan did.
Go Independent. It's about time we had a strong 3rd party in this country.
When he did he said, " I didn't leave the Democratic Party, the party left me."
You can't stop someone who's willing to blow themselves up from taking innocent people with them. That's why suicide bombers make good terrorists. So I won't try to reason with you. But I do have a question. Since you've decided to condemn us to the misery of a McCain presidency anyway, do you really have to harangue us about it too? I mean, we get it. You hate us, and you blame us for all your problems. Fine. Whatever. But instead of repeating that over and over until November, shouldn't you be thinking about what you'll tell your granddaughters when they ask you what happened to their right to choose?
Given that she isn't really a Democrat anyway, yeah, she should leave the party. Leave the Democrats to all of us liberals and progressives, please.
After years of being not represented thanks to the Republican-lite Clintons, it'll be nice to have our party back.
I don't see it as my role to "soften" you up. Nor do I see it as the RBC's role to "soften" you up.
If you have to be lead by the hand to use critical thinking and intellectual honesty...
This whole idea that Obama supporters have to cowtow to you now just irks the hell out of me. You made your choice for Hillary...
If you've felt insulted by some Obama supporters
Hey Hilary,
Welcome aboard!! It's wild and woolly out here. Hang on to your hat, girl. We show no mercy here.
Hillary Clinton's supporters BELIEVE HER when she says, with conviction, that she's ahead in the popular vote. They BELIEVE HER when she says it was Obama who "played the race card." She bends the truth to her will, with skill and clarity of purpose. She never reveals the slightest equivocation; the tiniest flash of reflective self doubt.
The topic on NPR this evening was whether HRC should/would take her "fight" to the convention. The Clinton supporters who called in were perfectly reasonable people who spoke with apparent command of the "facts" as they understood them. But, their “facts” were consistent with only one “source” -- the Clinton campaign. Nowhere else can you find this set of “facts.” And, based on these “facts,” these Clinton supporters had a set of strongly-held convictions.
They believed they were being personally cheated -- their candidate denied the nomination despite her “lead” in the popular vote. They believed that HRC should “fight on” and that soon, super delegates and elected delegates would change their minds. They believed they’ve been personally wronged by the Obama campaign, so their all-consuming rage and resulting assertion that they’d vote for McSame was both legitimate and rational.
This is the true damage that HRC is doing. She’s creating a segment (who knows how large?) of the Democratic Party whose opinions are hardened around a set of false “facts.” The degree to which these people act on HRC’s “facts” will determine the outcome in November.
Couldn't have said it better.
Yeah how dare HRC supporters believe her.
Those people aren't real Democrats. It isn't that large a segment of insane people. And thanks to the Clintons not being in charge any more, the party is being rejoined by tons and tons of liberals, leftists and progressives -- and a whole bunch of young people -- who far outweigh the loss of some Republican-lite angry people.
The degree to which those angry non-Democrats act this November won't affect the outcome, because they will be swamped at the polls by the rest of us.
Another example of an Obama supporter's wisdomless arrogance. And who are you to say who democrats are and aren't?? You're talking about 17 million people there, buddy. See, its your's and similar thinking individual's attitudes that are sowing the seeds of discontent, paranoia and an overall feeling of confusion on who the candidates are. Is that what you want? If so, I think we know who the insane people in the democratic party are.
I've been thinking about the claims of sexism and even racism made by Clinton supporters against the Obama campaign, and thinking about Geraldine Ferraro's comments in particular. I've also been thinking about the fact that the Clintons pressed Jerry Brown very hard to suspend his campaign (per Bill's autobiography, Bill knew in March that he had the nomination ... not June, despite Hillary's claims). Hillary's only remaining chance is with the Supers. But, rather than focus her campaigning on the Supers, she is running a public campaign bashing Obama on the popular vote issue using her mystical math.
So, here's the question. If Obama were a woman, would Hillary and her supporters be putting up less of a fight, or perhaps handling the fight differently, now that we're at the end of the road?
It would seem if I tried to show you the moon in all it's glory you would pay more attention to the finger pointing at it. For you it's the displays of sexism and racism. Yet the bigger picture of how we've ALL behaved during this primary. We ALL need lessons in political humility, humanity and civility. Hopefully, we ALL will learn from this process.
If you have a serious reply, I would like to hear it ... but throwing an insult at me is uncalled for.
Mrs. Clinton!!.
You want her to Naderize the election so McCain can win?
So, should someone take away from your comment that you actually think you need Sen. Clinton's supporters in order to win the general election? I'm just asking, because most of the posts by Sen. Obama's supporters seem to think they don't. And, not only that they don't, but that if the supporters of Sen. Clinton's should leave the Dem Party they would simply bid good riddance to them.
(This IS tongue in cheek, is it not?)
Negative. All she would succeed in accomplishing is to divide the opposition to McCain - virtually guaranteeing at least four more years of (*shudder*) Republican government
I've been saying that for weeks now. Run Clinton run, independently.
It is apparent that many of the people posting here simply don't get it. I'm a woman with a graduate degree who has worked in professional jobs most of my life. I would do almost anything to defeat John McCain. But this November if Hillary loses I will be one of her supporters who choses to stay home.
I and so many other women have been appalled at how blatantly sexist the media and the Democratic "boys club" have been in their treatment of one of the best presidential candidates we've had in some time. I have experienced sexism almost every day of my life. I've watched as the backlash against women grew stronger, as the feminist movement was ridiculed and marginalized, how people have turned a blind eye to the suffering of women. Sexism is as common as the air we breathe. Yet few take it seriously.
There would have been total outrage if Obama had been treated in as prejudiced a way as a black man as Sen. Clinton has been as a woman.
For me, this election has served to illuminate just how bad it is for women.
It's shown me that the system is so corrupt it no longer matters who wins.
I think those of you laughing at the woman in the video may be the ones spewing outrage come November. Read between the lines -- enough is enough. The Democratic party has abandoned its female followers. And they somehow expect us not to abandon
I sincerely believe that you'll be better served if you come up with detailed stories explaning how this has been sexist. Maybe most of the people here will get it better.
Honnestly how will you react if a black man came along asserting that the media have been racist and how it was unfair that the Democratic "white people" have stepped up to beat their guy ? you'd probably be skeptical, and you'll be right !
So, before making accusations, specifics please ...
And btw, I said that before, I'll say it again. You know we got it that you girls are angry and won't vote for Obama come November. Point well taken. Why do you really need to reapeat the same threat again and again ? why do you really expect from the rest of the democrats that are rallying before Obama ? a VP slot for Clinton ? more recognition ? in what form ? Heck you even ridiculed us when we've tried to "play nice" with you ... so ... what do you want for god's sake ? Clinton president or nothing ? is that it ?
Much better than I put it ... thanks.
The media has given Obama a pass, and you and your cohorts know it. If you want
actual examples of sexism toward Senator Clinton, Just google MSNBC, specifically
Chris Matthews, Olbermann, Tucker Carlson, and Tim Russert. Numerous examples
of sexism and misogyny will pop up. And also be sure you spell those names correctly.
Why is it that men who defend sexism and misogyny usually have difficulty spelling.
metys, I am an Obama supporter who has had little patience with HRC or her more rabid supporters, but to answer the question that you pose to skylarstar "Why do you really need to repeat the same threat again and again?" to vote for McCain -- I would submit that she feels as she does because of the kind of insult and lack of respect demonstrated by your comment "You know we got it that you girls are angry and won't vote for Obama come November."
These are women, not girls. Girls -- biologically defined as some 17 years old or younger -- are not eligible to vote in the United States.
I am no feminist, but if I found your remark disrespectful, and in fact sexist, I am sure that it is reasonable to expect that skylarstar and similarly passionate HRC supporters would also. This is the kind of thing that gets them angry and keeps them angry.
I think its time that we started healing the anger rather than inflaming it.
Skylarstar- Funny, I am a women with a graduate degree and so forth just like you but I just don't see it. What I don't see is how you would stay home and not vote and let a man like McCain possibly get into the White House. How could you live with yourself when he puts more conservatives on the supreme court? How could you live with yourself when we end up in another war in Iran? How about the economy? and education? You seem very anger already won't you be even more frustrated when you are to blame for the overturning of Roe? You can blame everyone else about the state of the world but unless you do you part, no matter how small, to make things better then it is your fault too!
Personally, I blame Hillery for running a bad campaign. She lost for many reasons and I found her tactics viscous, ugly and almost republican but I would have voted for her rather then let McCain win. I hope you manage to step above your anger because it isn't about you.
And even if she did make it into the white house to you think sexism would automatically disappear?
oh boo hoo. The dems abandoned us gays a long time ago. I just picked up my toys and went to play elsewhere.
I'm an old white guy, but I have two daughters who I have raised to be militantly intolerant of intolerance. I am proud to say that my daughters are disgusted by discrimination on the basis of gender, sexual orientation, race, religion, country of origin, etc. But, honestly, they do not see the sexism against the Clinton campaign that you do, and they both are Obama supporters.
I've heard the Annie Oakley example. That wasn't sexist. Nor was the shoulder brush from the Jay-Z video.
The sweetie comment was sexist, but that's a marginal example. Somewhat like the fact that many parents call their female children "sweetie" and their male children "buddy." Or like the fact that Judith is predominantly a female name and Richard is predominantly a male name.
Clinton is not a racist, even though she has said some things that some African Americans interpreted as racist. Obama is not a sexist, even though he has said some things that some women interpreted as sexist. In gauging statements for sexism or racism, intent must be considered. Otherwise, how can we possibly ever hope to eliminate sexism and racism completely?
So tell me, what particular sexist statements or acts have been directed at Clinton or her campaign?
Ms. Clinton has not said anything that a rational persopn would interpret as racist. Only after Obama called gher a racists did her statement about LBJ become an issue.
Throughout the campaign Obama has treated Ms. Clinton quite shabbily. He has called her a racist. A liar. And this is the real irony after the furor over her RFK remark, which was taken out of context by Obama, his campaign guru blamed Ms. Clinton for the assassination of Benazir Bhutto. But the pass given to Obama let that srtoy go virtually unnoticed.
You know Mr. frumke, if it walks like one and quacks like one but you still can't see it, that means you probably are one. The deep seated sexism is there and has been used against Clinton every step of the way. What if there was a nutcracker of Obama showing a bulge in his pants down to his knees? I mean the attitude of, " My god! the women have the right to vote what else will they?" shows how much is being blindly ignored, often without even knowing it.
Watch when your daughter gets less pay than her male counterpart. Watch when your daughter applies for that management position. No, the blatancy of the last century which brought about reform has been replaced by a quieter but nevertheless blatant form of sexism today. It's when you don't stand up against it that the worst damaged is committed.
We share this planet, men and women, together. And I'd like to repeat what an old friend told me. "When men stop thinking that women have the secret to the universe, perhaps we can get along together." This is not just about politics. It's about our society as a whole.
Bravo.
We will not be backed into a corner over Roe V Wade. Nice try.
It may be news to you that as a woman RvW is one of MANY issues I care about.
If you're so concerned about the supreme court, the dem's should have nominated the candidate who could actually beat John McCain.
The New Feminists.
We wear dresses and red high heels, military uniforms, seven jeans and boots.
We love our men (or women) and they love us.
We are professional women making over 6-figures, we are stay at home mom's, we are doctors, lawyers, retail associates, community philanthropic volunteers and domocratic party activists.
We did not ask to have sexism thrown in our face at every turn in this election of 2008 but it was anyway.
We've gone from being stunned to outraged and will not accept this.
We reject the Democratic Parties silence.
We reject the Obama campaigns silence.
We reject the media's silence.
We reject the sexist cards and Clinton items in retail stores like Borders Books.
***We will not reward those who practice and proliferate sexism with our VOTES.***
So go ... no one needs you anyway. I for one am a little sick of man haters being up in my face about how to act ... what to think ... how I should feel. No one put the lies(bosnia) ... obfuscations(nafta) ... and confusions(popular vote and claim to electability as anything other than wishful thinking) in Clintons mouth ... she did. No one chose her nomination strategy for her ... she did ... and she lost.
So suck it up and act like a grownup(notice the gender neutral characterization that is going to be totally lost in the ensuing whine about me not being for clinton because she's a woman). And if you can't ... go. I may not like this administration or the harm its doing daily to our lives ... but I'm not putting up with anymore crap from the Clintons to get rid of it.
Message to Hillary Clinton ... go ... just go ... yake youer supporters with you . After you leave the stage Barack Obama will be just fine.
We will leave.
We will leave Obama to fail miserably.
Unity? Bah. That is just a slogan for the movement of hate.
Obama may fail miserably ... but better to fail miserably than succeed with you.
Amminadab- it is not about Obama, Clinton or even you. It is about over turning Roe v. Wade, it is about people being blown up in the middle east, it is about our economy, it is about education, it is about the world we live in, it is about our children and grandchildren.
Do you want four more years of this? Lets remember what the fight is really about. Right now you are being a pawn of the republicans and the person (beaupritchard) who you are responding too probably is a republican.
Unite with us, fight the real enemy. No more divide and conquer.
Staying home on election day is a vote for hate.
When Obama loses in Nov it will be the fault of supporters like you. Obama and supporters like you have alienated Clinton supporters, white voters, voters with no college degree, black voters unwilling to vote for someone based on the color of their skin, Hispanic voters, and a number of other groups. Try winning without the almost 20 million voters who selected someone other than Obama.
HILARY:
Why don't you tell your good friend, her husband, her daughter and the other folks who are working for Hillary to stop they underhanded tactics of marginalizing Sen. Obama. Your friend and has been doining so for 15 months. 15 months of the "not experienced enough," comments 15 months of "white male voters won't vote for BaracK," 15 months of "only Hillary and McCain has the type of experience that it takes to sit in the Oval Office," 15 months of refusing to utter Sen. Obama's name and calling him "my opponent," as though his name is not worthy of even being acknowledged. Oh, yes there are a few times when she has said his name and on those occasions it has been to chastise, berate, shame, chastise, belittle, and scorn Sen. Obama yes there has been that rare event when begrudgingly Hillary will offer a terse congratulation and utter Sen. Obama's name.
I exaggerate you say. Far from it it's all public record, on the YouTube and the written transcripts of Hillary's speeches are all online if you wish to taste reality.
What part of lacking experience don't you understand? It's an honest and objective assessment of Sen. Obama's experience. If you can't handle that, it's not Hillary Clinton's fault or anyone else's for that matter. It's your call to ignore that fact. It's all your asses on the line when you say he'll be a great president by default. Time will tell if he can even win the GE, should he be the nominee.
*sigh this must be the millionth time i'm doing this, but could you please be more specific as to how you feel Senator Clinton has more experience over Senator Obama? The extra 4 years in the senate? The 8 years sipping tea in the white house? The last time i checked in America people are chosen based on their merits, not on whether or not someone has been doing his/her time in the wings waiting for promotion. Or is a meritocracy too idealistic for you?
Obama has a finer record than Clinton in the senate
Obama has more years as an elected official than Clinton
Obama has a more impressive academic record than Clinton
Obama has grassroots experience, fighting for communities in the bottom rung of society
But most importantly of all, he has played by the rules of the party primaries and is on the verge of winning.
This is an honest and objective assessment of qualification of Obama. Experience is one of many things that should count in assessing qualification. If experience is so important to you, then will you be voting for McCain in the GE even if Hillary is the democratic party nominee? His 'experience' (as you seem to define it) pisses all over Hillary's 'experience'.
PioneedKing,
Good post. That's exactly what worries me.
Hey! Politicians! Some of us out here still care about independent facts.
Hey! Hillary people! Its kind of Bushy to believe what you're told and go with your gut instead of checking out what your opponents say.
He isn't. they probably won't, didn't say that, not right (your own admission), watch and read again. Thank you.
The supporters of both BHO and HRC both appear to be passionate people who desire something other than a never ending war that is actually a factor in our economic crises. We will NOT see ANYTHING different, if out of pettiness we side with the GOP because our favorite dem candidate doesn't make the cut.
Those who cross party lines out of contempt are really those who should have been with the Republicans all along really. It would not surprise me if they are the same breed of cat that actually endorsed the Iraq war to begin with. Stupid is as stupid does.
"We will NOT see ANYTHING different, if out of pettiness we side with the GOP because our favorite dem candidate doesn't make the cut."
It's not about that. It's about how Hillary and her supporters have been treated for the better part of a year. If the rhetoric and ad hominem insults coming from Camp Obama, I think it would be much easier for HRC supporters to accept Obama. There are many objective reasons MANY people have for not wanting to support Obama. None of them racialist. None of them out of line. We have genuine concerns, not only of his electability, but on his experience as a Chief Executive. When you throw in his very poor judgement of his past and present associations, the way he plays the groundhog day of his associations spouting hysterics as "I'm above the fray because I didn't say that and that's not what I'm about", the picture becomes very muddled and confusing on where Obama REALLY stands. At THIS point in THIS country's history I find it hard to support someone where the evidence to support his candidacy is thin at best, his supporters find it appropriate to hurl contumelious insults in EVERY debate, his past associations have created great confusion on who Obama the man is and a general haze as to his ability to unify and lead us forward.
What's amazing is that you say you don't know where Obama stands. Hillary has been changing her voice, points of view, alliances, stories thru-out her campaign. Obama has at least been consistent.
Hillary has been caught in lie after lie. NAFTA, Bosnia, Mortgage Legislation Votes, Travelgate, Whitewater, popular votes... Obama has on his website outlines of all his policies. It would be better to read them and then ask questions. That's what R. Murdoch did, then he complimented Obama on his educational plan.
Hillary has played dirty politics. Polls also said that a high percentage of Americans do not trust her, they also said she was played dirty on the trail more than Obama. Another poll showed the press gave her more of a pass than Obama, even though she threw more mud at him than he threw at her.
One thing you have to remember, Obama and the dems did not throw Hillary's deep dirt on her. They are in the same party. But the republicans, when they thought she would be the nominee, were licking their chops. They have a dossier on her and Bill that they were going to exploit. Because Obama has been polite, allowing her to get away with mispeaking, I believe she and her supporters have grown complacent. The Democratic party really don't want to go through another "impeachment " discussion for the whole world to see.
Please list any ad hominem insults coming from the Obama camp. By that, i assume you mean people who are officially affiliated with Obama? If you are justifying your exasperations out of a bunch of random internet blog posts then i fear more for your mental health than your vote.
You do reallise it is intellectually dishonest to expect a group (Obama supporters) comprising of millions of individuals to collectively act nice and cozy up to you, without anyone stepping out of line? What? You expect Obama to use his magic pheromone that people whiff and he can tell them "Now, don't go upsetting any sensitive Clinton supporters, you hear?" and they go "Yes, your excellency" with blank stares and get on with our lives and ignore the blatant lies and misleading statements coming out of the Hillary camp and from Hillary HERSELF!
Oh, and you came up with the classic (way past their use by date) argument, that we still don't know enough of Obama, and he presents a risk because of it. The old and stale, 'better the devil you know" argument. Well I'm sorry if you are upset we aren't all as cynical and depressed with our lives as to swallow that junk of an argument.
Hilary, I am glad that you are working at the Huffingtonpost. I always enjoy your posts even though I usually disagree your conclusions.
That said, I would like you to consider that it may be Clinton's own negative characterization of Obama that really puts him in a tough spot against McCain. I do believe that he can win in November because McCain's message is weak and tired but can you and other Clinton supporters admit that without this protracted primary, we could have benefited from supporting our candidate as long as the republicans have for theirs?
We have a VERY critical decision to make in the Democratic Primary. Unlike the wisdomless right wing, we've actually had some time to consider who the best leader is to carry us into the future and emerge successfully. IMO, that is Hillary Clinton. Her husband was presiding over one of the most successful, if not THE most successful period in American History. That is a helluva good person to have at your side to help guide you through the toughest decisions. And we know the tough decisions will be many. I don't know if it's too late for HRC to get the nomination and have Barack be her VP. Everyone seems to think so. Personally, I see this possible Clinton presidency with Obama as her VP as being something similar to the first Clinton presidency. However, this time we would have a VP that would be able to continue to carry the democratic torch in the white house. I can see, with HRC as the nominee a VERY long run for democrats in the WH. A changing of the guard with a sound beginning, if you will. I just do not have the confidence many of the democrats have in BHO.
Bill Clinton was lucky that a bunch of smart people in Silicon Valley made a truckload money that he had to decide how to spend. He didn't DO anything to cause it.
His policies essentially continued the presidency of Bush the elder; moderate Republican stuff.
I don't want another moderate Republican president, and I don't want another Clinton that says one thing and then does another. I've been through that already. It was unpleasant being lied to.
Sen. Obama,
Please just give her the stupid four delegates. Half-delgates really. No sense in further dividing the party. Let's just end this thing tomorrow, with no room for argument, so we can move on without endless talk of floor fights in Denver.
The base is already stirred up and shaken...s
Just stop it already. The battle is won. Let's move forward and prepare for the WAR of defeating McCain.
The far left are going to be battling McCain alone...an
Most people here seem to hate Hillary MORE than they support Obama.
I'm sure the demonization will continue.
You have that right!!
...and it will be his undoing...
Is that big nothing like Bush who lied to get America into a war. Or is that big nothing like Cheney who lied to get America into a war.
Is that big nothing like Cheney who said: "RADDATZ: Two-third of Americans say it's [the Iraq war's] not worth fighting.
CHENEY: So?
RADDATZ So? You don't care what the American people think?
CHENEY: No. "
Or is that big nothing like the republicans who a republican politician who compared to a "brand of dog food that won't sell?"
No, the base is excited and energized. Many of us have come back to the party, finally, now that the Clintons are out of power and the party can stop being Republican-lite.
Democrats should be true to their values, like Obama.
The '08 Democratic nomination process was not one for Sen. Clinton to win, but to not lose. She lost.
...and in turn, the Dem party has lost the White House...no President as liberal as Obama has ever won the White House, and he will not be changing that time-honored, unbroken streak of no liberals in the Presidency
Well your statement can't be supported, so it's nonsense. Of course he has some chance of winning. Indefensible hyperbole doesn't serve your argument.
sHE WON'T GO AWAY EASY. iF SHE HAD ANY HONOR SHE WOULD DO THE HONORABLE THING AND CONCEDE, but since she still believes the people really want her, she won't concede. I would not trust her, will not watch her speech, because it's always been about her. The first opportunity she gets she will try and hijack the nomination. I believe the SD's failed us and the nimnees. The decision shoul have been done along time ago. Don't believe her
It's time for all Obama supporters (myself included) to follow the lead of our nominee and gracefully and civilly reach out to the Clinton supporters so that we can move forward. We may have won the battle but we still have a heck of a fight ahead of us and we need all democrats to succeed in this WAR.
So I said that to say this. Obama supporters, let's stop the negative rhetoric. It's just not helpful.
Sorry but I respectfully disagree.
I do not intend to follow Obama blindly. I support him, but I'm aware of its shortcomings, as well as I'm aware of the deep flaws in some of Clinton's supporters arguments.
That's not about Obama, it's about this country we love.
I for one believe that letting things loose and "appeasing" people because we want to win will lead us to our doom.
Let's not repeat the same errors and stands to our principles.
If Clinton supporters are right, they are right, and let's praise them
If they're wrong, they're wrong, and let's criticize them.
Same for Obama folks, same for me, same for everybody.
Since when this thing has become so corrupted that we can't stand by what we believe in ? This is change we can believe in or it's not.
Since when is quitting "the honorable thing"?
it is when you play a game, and by the rules you don't win. Then it's the honorable thing.
Stamping your feet and flipping the whole chess board over so the pieces fly across the room? That would be NOT the honorable thing.
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