I Am Not a Bargaining Chip, I Am a Democrat
Senator Clinton's speech last night was a justifiably proud recitation of her accomplishments over the course of this campaign, but it did not end right. She didn't do what she should have done. As hard and as painful as it might have been, she should have conceded, congratulated, endorsed and committed to Barack Obama. Therefore the next 48 hours are now as important to the future reputation of Hillary Clinton as the last year and a half have been.
I am so disappointed that she lost. As a long time Hillary Clinton supporter and more importantly, an admirer, I am sad that this historic effort has ended with such a narrow loss for her. The issues she raised and the people she touched have not been affected this way by any recent presidential candidate. And we were counting on her victory to change so much in this country. There will be the appropriate "if onlys" for a long time to come. If only the staff shakeup happened earlier; if only the effort in the caucus states had more resources; if only Hillary had let loose with the authentic female, connecting voice she found in the last three months of the campaign. If only. If only. I have written many times on this site about the talents of Hillary Clinton and why I thought she'd make a great President.
After last night's final primary, she was only about pledged 100 delegates behind him. Ironic that after not wanting to make the decision for so long, it was in fact, the superdelegates who made the decision. But I guess they did so for another reason. It just isn't her time. It is his time. It's a new day that offers a freshness to our party that many have longed for. We felt the rush of new voices and a new energy in the Congressional sweep of 2006 and the sweep continues. It has been an organic shift.
The life's work of Bill and Hillary Clinton in partnering with so many African Americans uniting our purpose and promoting our mutual issues is as responsible for Barack Obama's success as our first African American nominee as anyone. And yet, that joy is being denied for them by themselves. It is so sad.
So, I am also so very disappointed at how she has handled this last week. I know she is exhausted and she had pledged to finish the primaries and let every state vote before any final action. But by the time she got on that podium last night, she knew it was over and that she had lost. I am sure I was not alone in privately urging the campaign over the last two weeks to use the moment to take her due, pass the torch and cement her grace. She had an opportunity to soar and unite. She had a chance to surprise her party and the nation after the day-long denials about expecting any concession and send Obama off on the campaign trail of the general election with the best possible platform. I wrote before how she had a chance for her "Al Gore moment." And if she had done so, the whole country ALL would be talking today about how great she is and give her her due.
Instead she left her supporters empty, Obama's angry, and party leaders trashing her. She said she was stepping back to think about her options. She is waiting to figure out how she would "use" her 18 million voters.
But not my vote. I will enthusiastically support Barack Obama's campaign. Because I am not a bargaining chip. I am a Democrat.
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From now on people, when ever you want to refer to McCain, please make sure you use 'John W. Bush McCain.'
Ex: We cannot support John W. Bush McCain because he is advocating the failed policies of Dick Cheney.
Ex: John W. Bush McCain refuses to support a recent G.I. bill in congress, citing "it gives too much benefits to our veterans."
Ex: America cannot entrust a currently unstable U.S. economy to John W. Bush McCain who is on record saying, he does not understand the economy.
Please, spread the word about John W. Bush McCain.
America cannot afford John W. Bush McCain--not in treasure and definitely not in blood.
I hope that through an Obama Presidency we will build a Party for Americans, not just a few. The Democratic Party has leaders who were elected by the people to serve our nation's best interest. That is an honor that should stand on its own. "Not this time" and not ever again, should the Democrats become beholden to individuals members.
Dear Ms. Rosen,
Knowing what an ardent supporter of Senator Clinton you are, I was shocked to hear you say this enormous declaration: " ... I am not a bargaining chip. I am a Democrat."
Thank you for these words. They are, I believe, the true voice of modern feminism. Supporting Hillary (or any candidate, specifically females) beyond the voice of oneself (not to mention, reason) does not behoove the female point-of-view.
Where you would have been just another political pundit prior to this, you have now indelibly made your name memorable. I will not be forgetting this statement of independence, the courage you have expressed - or your name - any time in the near future.
Which, heh, is saying a lot considering that I'm an older female and have short-term memory issues.
When we use our gender to bash or bargin, we become discriminatory. Yes, sexism goes both ways, if we stand up for women soley based on their gender, what have we done to another human who happens to be born a man? I staged my first protest for womens rights in 1970 at the age of 12. it was for opur right to wear pants in our grade school, it wasnt to smash a man, it was something positive for girls, we were successful ,we got to wear pants. We can stand up for ourselves without sacriicing another. that is success, that is where we are going to redress sexism, not create more.
What great words Pema. I applaud your sentiments and your eloquence. Thank you.
Pema, it is good to stand up & back a woman & woman's rights. However, in a political race, one must forgo one's stand if it means that you would vote for a woman, rather than her political abilities. Actually, this time voting for a woman is voting for the better candidate. It is a shame, tho, that so many black people are voting for Obama because he is black, rather than because they believe he is qualified to sit in the White House. For the good of our country, they are making a mistake.
16 years old, junior in high school...s
Hillary is the best candidate. Obama is inexperienced and her junior in innumerable ways.
Poor choice. You lose.
You gave her 48 hour. She will take twice that with uncertain outcome. She still did not congratulate her opponent on his win. How gracious is that?
Another thought -
If this is the way Hillary speaks, I certainly do NOT want her involved in Foreign Policy - AT ALL !
Ms. Rosen,
Don't you get it. Hillary Clinton is for the "Clinton Party", the so called "Clinton Legacy". She doesn't really give a damn about the Democrats. She has used her so called sisterhood of of white women over 50. as some sort of gang mentality of entitlement. Hillary Rodman Clinton brought this on herself. The legacy she is leaving is that women are bad losers. She decided to campaign as tough as 2 men, but when criticized she screams gender bias, and sexism. She was allowed to manipulate, change the rules mid stream, all because she is a woman, and the media along with the DNC, and House Speaker, allowed her to do so, at the detriment of the Party.
How in full sight of the United States of America and the World, everyone can see what a pathological sick woman she is. Ambition at all cost. She believes she owns the 18 million voters. Doesn't she realize that many of those voters will vote for Obama. Who does she think she is? She certainly doesn't speak for me. I am a 56 year old woman.
Tuesday night was an Historic event. She will go down in history as the woman candidate who did not recognize the importance of that night, and chose to make it all about her. She set the negative tone for this campaign. Still, she remains defiant by not conceding, but suspending her campaign, which will allow her to remain a candidate.
well said!
You can't "court" what you don't understand.
That's why Clinton's supporters see through your inane comments and continued insults.
Duh.
WAKE UP. Hillary is not a feminist. She is an opportunist. She goes against all that feminism espouses. I am ashamed to have once worn a shirt with her face on it. I am a feminist and I am voting for Barack Obama--the true feminist. Yes, ladies... men can be feminists, too.
My questions to those Dems who are voting for 0bama because HRC did not get the nomination is this:
Who exactly is benefiting from that vote?
Whom are you really hurting when you vote against your self interests? (Roe vs. Wade, the economy, the war in Iraq and a potential war with Iran)
Where do you see this country in 2 years under a republican president?
I can understand raw feelings, but I do believe in the lesser of two evils. I see an administration where both your candidate and my candidate are working with all of us to make this nation greater for ourselves and our children. Your vote is not about how you feel now. Your vote is about the future of this country.
Jaxxon, don't worry. They can play the Russian roulette for all I care. You reap what you sow. They are the same people who are making the most noise about gas price and all that today. They are crying more than the bereaved. Hillary will soon endorse Obama and yet theses freaks cannot get over a lost election. The last time I checked, even Hillary, like other democrats, will be a heart-beat away from the Obama White House. Instead of voicing their displeasure about the fact that they are concerned about Obama's race, they are hiding behind the cloak of 'supporting" Hillary.
It is OVER folks. OVER!!!!
Who am I voting and why am I here? I dont believe any of the issues you posted RvWade, economy or the war in Iraq are black and white issues that I am sure you see. I am pro life in spirit, but support a women's right to choose under law, but I also do not support partial birth abortion, hence not black and white. I am for a better economy but I am not for that through vastly higher taxes, I am for less spending and slightly higher taxes if necessary. I am not for the war in Iraq but I am for victory in Iraq. I want my daughters to grow up knowing how to make up their own minds and deciding their own futures. If I believed that somehow change could happen I would be disserving my daughters. Change can not and will not happen as long as self interested politicians hold all the cards while lemming voters continue to blindly re-elect them or in the case of Sen. Obama elect them.
"If you believed change could happen You would be disserving your daughters??" I guess you mean that you do not want change to occur for some reason, your daughters?
Change happens constantly, it can be better or it can be worse, but it will happen nothing remains static. You have a choice. You can decide it is all too complicated for you to figure out and abstain from voting. You can Vote for McCain who will increase wars,as he said, that will be more expensive. More taxes unless he wants to borrow for that as well, which raises the cost even more. You have daughter and you would even contemplate a man who voted against equal pay for women? You say you are for less spending, throw that out with McCains planned wars. You would vote for a man whose campaign is run by lobbyists? You can vote for Obama who has already changed, for the better how campaigns are funded, he has said that democrats will not take lobbyists money. That is good change.
What does victory in Iraq look like?We have handed Iran the most power they have ever seen!Maliki is affiliating himself with IRAN and the iraqi army was trained in IRAN and has allegence to them!My son is an army surgion and has to see the piles of limbs tossed in the corner of his emergency room on a daily basis because of the I.E.D.s,C-
So you'll vote for McCain? Has there been a more self-interested politician than McCain since Nixon? He's reversed nearly every issue position he's had for political gain since his pathetic, tail-betwe
Make no mistake: McCain is black-and-white on the issues. 1) No abortion. Period. I hope you (and your daughters) live in a progressive state or you'll find it illegal, even in cases of rape and incest, if he has his way. 2) War. And lots more of it. McCain loves it, it's in his blood and his very temperament. His rhetoric (besides when he very feebly says, "I hate war) is incredibly inflammatory and his silly nonsense about never negotiating with our enemies is why our foreign policy is in the pathetic state it's in now. Furthermore, our recent national history is replete with examples of the positive outcome to be gotten from negotiating with our "enemies".
Does your "victory in Iraq" look like John McCain's? God help our nation if he becomes the next president.
"I am not for the war in Iraq but I am for victory in Iraq."
What does this even mean? What is "victory" in Iraq? They had nothing to do with 9/11 and did not have any WMDs. We are just over there killing their civilians (please don't refer to them as "insurgents"). The only "victory" that can be had in Iraq is for us to withdraw and TO STOP KILLING THEIR PEOPLE AND DESTROYING THEIR COUNTRY.
I now have the same feeling of dread I had about GW Bush......
Screaming racism is the new facism. Just like Bush screamed traitor everytime he heard the truth too. Now we hear "racism" everytime someone tells the truth about Obama. You are right to be scared. This is McCarthyism all over again - Joe, not Eugene but there are shades of one more failed Children's Crusade going on here too. But the real worry is the demogogery and mob mentality Obama inspires. That is all I see his message garnering - mob mentality and mindless acts.
Correct me if I'm wrong... but I believe you mean those voting for McCain because HRC did not get the nomination.
With that change, I agree with what you're saying. There is way too much hate and anger- from both Clinton and Obama supporters. Heal the party, take the race, save America!
You do need to be corrected. The Dems wanted McCain on their ticket in 2004. The country is not going to hell in a handbasket if he wins. It might if Obama does. I'll put my money on a proven thing: McCain 2008.
Hillary, Don't know if you remember me; Patti Tavormina, a friend from D.C. that you knew with Cindy Mynhier. I am Patti Victorson now and just want to say how proud I am of you. I always knew how smart and special you are, congrats on your success. We are moving back to D.C. in September '09. My son is going to college and I am homesick. Maybe I will run into you. In the meantime, I will see you on CNN and read your blog religiously. I am a devoted fan and democrat. cox.netson@cox.net
I really haven't thought Ms. C was a racist up until today. But the way she has dismissed Senator Obama and along with the tactics that she has used.....I might be wrong.
Why hasn't she called him to congratulate him?
She has called him and even talked to him in person. Even if she didn't how would that make her a racist? Calling the Clintons racist (Bill and Hillary) dosen't help anything or anyone and is total BS. How can Clinton and Obama supporters ever come together with ignorant statements like that? Then the same people want her (Hillary's) help in getting Obama elected and Obama said he wants and needs Bill's help too. You really think the Clintons are racist? Get a clue!
Racism is not merely in the foul words that are uttered from one's mouth that denigrate the humanity of another human being because of the color of their skin, it's in the passive silence of those who witness these outrageous remarks - and then do nothing and say nothing to stop it.
I seem to remember Ms. Geraldine saying that his actions of dismissing her where sexist....
I don't believer she's racist. We (blacks) gotta stop throwing that around. I think she's vindictive and selfish, but her motives aren't racial. They are egotistical. She has a bigger ego than a typical man. But it's a stretch to call her racist.
IRepTheKing (I am black) Research your history with the Clintons.
Bill's mentor and idol is J. Fullbright. a devote racist. Everytime Bill is
losing and a Black man is involved he shows his true colors. (JJ)
Bill is Hill's mentor, plus she was a Goldwater girl , she campaigned for him
and you do know that Goldwater ran against Johnson and did not want
civil rights bill t o pass. So if Goldwater would have won the race
, no civil rights bill. She said
Dr. King did not did not do very much to push forth the civil rights bill.
and you and I know that is a lie.
She is the one that constantly talked about the hard working white man
and refused to give Barack any grace about the bitters remark. She was
the one who made the statement about RFK., and didn't apologize to
Barack or his family. and still hasn't. It was Bill who killed the bill in
the senate that would have put into place monies for our children to have
after-school programs. Keeping them off the street . A safe place for them
This (bill) was sponsered by the Regan Administration. until along came
William Jefferson Clinton. I don't know what you call but I think they
are racist, plus she really did think that she was entitled to win this race. I don't trust her and I never will she has proven she will say and
do anything. .
I'm not black, but she and her husband have made some repulsive racist insinuations at the very least. Remember Bill's Jesse Jackson comment? Remember hard working "white" people?
I don't think those comments helped and I found them offensive.
Yes, every single thing anyone does from here on out that does not agree with Obama's agenda means they are racists. Life is simple again. Obama nailed Lieberman in public for good cause because he too did not agree with Obama's agenda. Let this all be a warning. Obama plays hardball and you are next unless you show total fealty.
Well, now make up your minds Clinton clones. Is he a wimpy guy that won't stand up to any one or is he a big bully who plays hardball.
It is high time someone talks to Lieberman about his reaping the benefits of organizing with the democrats while endorsing McCain. Of course he can play hardball he is a sucessful senator. Clinton certainly can. He worked his way up to his current position, you don't get there that fast by being weak. Idiots take his good manners and sensible attitude for weakness. More fools them. Grow up!!
Gee, I guess we want someone who plays nice with Joseph "Benedict Arnold" Lieberman?
Lieberman got slammed by Obama for being a jerk, and rightly so. Obama defended him early on, and chose him as his mentor, and now Lieberman sells out. He doesn't serve US interests, but the interests of the furthest right wing of the Likud in the Knesset.
Screw Joe Lieberman. And Feinstein has some explaining to do for supporting him.
It is hard to believe how weak our "leaders" are. It seems they have no spine at all. It is less than 24 hours after Obama got the number of delegates to become the presumptive nominee of the Democratic party; An event that was staged by the Obama campaign and party leaders (super delegates). Something that could have been done today...so
Unfortunately, many in congress and the DNC realized the error of their ways when they allowed her to go on after Indianna and NC, when Obama's pledged delegate lead was insurmountable. Instead, Clinton went on to mislead her supporters into believing that the popular vote count was a measurement of winning the nomination and after the outcome of the DNC committee meeting, it became obvious that Clinton's intent was to taint the image of Obama, the party and uncommitted superdelegates as the villians who stole the nomination from her and her supporters. So, in effect, Senator CLinton was given more than enough time, more than she deserved, to do what she does best, divide and destroy those who are perceived in her way to conquer.
She'd known for months that she couldn't overtake his lead. She should have been prepared! Wasn't it Hills who said from day one.
And you madame are delusional.
Black and male...gen
I am a centrist who voted for Hilary. I dare say centrist on this board are rare. I will NOT vote for Sen. Obama and WILL vote for Sen. McCain for two reasons. #1, there isnt much I hate more than being spoon feed on how to vote, think or who to support . Oberman, Matthews, Blitzer et al sicken me, talk about your rah rah squad . I am a slightly overweight white guy, so I dont need, overweight, pompus windbag white guys telling me how to think. If no attack on Sen. Obama was justified and all attacks on Sen. Clinton were okay then I see there point. Frankly I gave up on CNN and MSNBC and turned to Fox. So in order to spare my two young daughters another generation of pompus windbags selling out women, I will vote against Sen. Obama.
Also, #2, he is not experienced enough for me. He lacks domestic and foreign policy experience. What I have seen this far is that he can give a speech. I demand substance. I am not McCains biggest fan, but he is likely to do less damage than the unprepared Sen. Obama. I would vote for Hilary, because as a political animal she would tack to the center, a safe place for me. If I could vote for Colin Powell, or Sam Nunn, or even Al Gore I would, but unfortunately I cant. Sen. Obama's inexperience and the media have forced me to tune it all
Good luck with that....
Those you mentioned, John, are the most hateful and narrow-minded news people and I will not watch them in the future. I will select true journalism and seek those news media with truthful journalism. I don't believe they even know what that is. MSNBC sucks. Hope those "old" guys are replaced by some young minority man or woman. What goes around, comes around.
Obama will not have my vote either as he is a puppet for a certain segment who will use him as a figurehead to accomplish whatever it is they want to accomplish, and you can believe it will not be in your or my best interest. If it walks like a duck, squawks like a duck, you bet it's a duck!
They are narrow minded as opposed to who? Rush? Sean Fla? Kevin James? I admit, it's obvious who they side with, but there are always gonna be pundits who feel one way or another. ABC's debate was clearly bias, but their bias won't make me hate Clinton. There are just a lot of swollen egos in the room.
You guys are finding any reason to hate a candidate. It's as if he (Obama) told the media to blast Clinton and Mccain. If they media was in his pocket, Rev Wright would not have played as much as it did.
vote for your country, not the pundits, the media... or your bruised feelings about your candidate's loss.
Hey, JohnSnay, come with me to the church on Sunday, will ya? Looks to me that your analysis runs hollow. may be you will remember more reasons why you will not vote for Obama. Good luck.
I also have two young daughters and the best thing that I can teach them is to think for themselves,, be independent ,responsible and fair.
The press should not be the reason why or how you vote ,,, that is your weakness. This is an important decision,, this is about America... and the future of our children .. this is not about Hillary Clinton. I don't care who you vote for ,,, that is your right and choice. I just find it irresponsible that your vote is not base on what is best for your children ... but what is best for Hillary.
think for yourself
Sounds like your ego is in the way of your better judgement. If you were willing to vote for Hillary, how can you ignore the fact that she herself has that Obama is closer to her on policy than McCain.
Sometimes, our vote has to be bigger than our dislike towards the candidates' supporters. I particularly don't like the pundits who favor Clinton, but if she were the nom, I can't see my ego sending me to McCain, who is everything my cnadidate is not.
No, actually you ARE a bargaining chip. No argument needed.
It is easy for Obama supporters to say party before candidate as they continue to act like Republicans. Who, by the way say, country over party but actually put party over country. Obama supporters put candidate over party when they began to adopt the Republican view of the Clintons. How can it be party over candidate when the Obama supporters adopted the Repubican picture of the Clintons and used it quite well.
It is sad that I will not be voting for the African-American president because of the ugliest thrown at the Clintons by a group of people claiming to be something they are not. They claim to be different all the while spewing ugliness and the most negative view of everything every said by a Clinton. Sound familiar?? Republican???
YOU ARE CRYING MORE THAN THE BEREAVED. HILLARY WILL ENDORSE OBAMA ON SATURDAY. GET OVER IT, DUDE.
Okay, you're a Clinton supporter. Ask yourself this then, (since you are loyal to your candidate before your party)... who do you think Clinton will vote for? HMmmm Just saying. i doubt it will be McCain.
what would you think of me, an obama supporter, if i said that i would never, ever vote for Clinton because of the hateful words i read, over and over (terrorist, anti-christ, puppet, Dumbo, inadequate black male) on the pro-Clinton blogs? Would you think I was short-sighted for basing my opinon of Clinton on the hateful words of her supporters? Or would you think my reason for voting against Clinton was perfectly justified?
Ugliness thrown at the Clintons by whom?
Obama didn't make personal attacks on Hillary like she did on him, and he certainly didn't try to divide the country using identity politicking. Most importantly, she constantly attacked his supporters as naive and cultists.
Iraq. Bankruptcy. Cluster bombs. Her record was of issue. Deal with it.
Bully pulpit tactics. Do as we say or else. 50% plus 1 strategy of governance. Her governing style was of issue. Deal with that.
We've had those things for the past 7+ years. I want a change. So do most.
Spare me the self-victimization bit and realize that Hillary lost because she mismanaged her campaign finances, ran a poor strategy in most states, didn't have a cogent message, had a poor voting record on some very key issues, expected a coronation, and ran against a field of great candidates.
I have never been so saddened and offended by the fact that Obama is going to be the candidate for Democratic Party. I would spend my whole day writing every single reason why I am feeling the way coincided with the sentiment of the people “One in seven white voters of his own party (Democratic) said in exit polls that race was important in choosing their candidate. Of that group, not only did two-thirds vote for Clinton, but nearly six in 10 said they would rather vote for McCain in November or stay home than support Obama.”
However, while I am really disappointed at that there is such an unfair treatment of Senator Clinton relating to the fact either one of the candidates; Obama or Clinton is making the history as the first African American or female president, Clinton seems to have been scrutinized much more critically comparing to Senator Obama. I am more stunned by how so many people despite all the hypes to support Obama can ignore the crucial facts of his voting records (not to mention he has not so many records to begin with), but more alarmingly, his controversial relationships to those in the spot lights recently including the mobster from Chicago that “helped” him got his million dollar house. I do not want to make those points without any support the following article written by an African American columnist Thomas Sowell http://www
Sir, you're making a scene. Please put some pants on. And for love of god get off your soapbox...
Thomas Sowell may represent your viewpoints but he does not represent mine. A word of caution: if you REALLY want to talk about "controversial relationships" the Clintons have a multitude that we can gladly focus the lasers on. Those associations, pre- and post-presidency, are the major reason Pres. Clinton does not want to be "fully vetted" by Obama's VP search team. And, Hillary has also associated with some pretty unsavory characters, especially early in her career. You might want to tread very softly with your smears against Sen. Obama.
Our vote is our own to use as we please. No one is going to grovel or be held hostage by irrational demands for our votes. But, just as with every obstacle in life, we can take the lemons and make lemonade, or we can continue forever whining, griping, and holding grudges. No one else cares. The world moves on.
I feel EXACTLY the same about Sen. Clinton as you feel about Sen. Obama. I feel that Obama was treated abominably by the Clintons and their supporters. HE, throughout this entire campaign, has maintained a courteous, respectful attitude toward Sen. Clinton. SUPPORTERS, however, on both sides, have vigorously defended their candidate, not always respectfully. But, make no mistake, the vitriol was on BOTH sides, and both sides must admit their wrongdoing.
worriedcitizen-
Are you saying you support the racist view? The party is bettter off- WITHOUT- the voter who finds the color of Obama's skin a problem.
Now, you claim gender bias? Are you gender pioneering on behalf of only white woman?
Do you think the Clintons might have more controversial relationships than Obama??
Your comments are suspect-
At least getting you to think...:-
So are we just supposed to forget that the Media skewered him regarding
Flag Pins, Rev. Wright, Father Pflegar, whether he is a muslim, bittergate, the fact that he is black, Rezko and others. Things not in his control and guilt by association.
But Hillary was called out on things she said that is not scrutiny.
Should we forget that Hillary has a lot more in her closet than Obama and has less legislation under her belt in the Senate and she has been there longer.
You are just quoting the Devil. You would rather African-Americans stand behind a candidate you prefer (say, White) because "white democrats will not vote for Obama" as you claim, for the rest of their lives.For your information, Obama got to where he is today because a MAJORITY OF INDEPENDENT WHITES and Democrats voted for him. So, I do not know where you got the fuzzy statistics you are throwing around.
It is a pity that folks like you still exist in this country. Make sure you keep your kids (if you have any) away from you because, YOU ARE UN-AMERICA
Please before you disturb us with your warped logic, you still have an option. GO VOTE FOR McCAIN. PERIOD!!
Thank for the suggestion, this is exactly what I am going to do. :-) I am glad you think so...
Worriedcitizenx
I am a white woman, and over 40. I find your diatribe offensive and ignorant. You have no proof of any so-called fact that you are spewing. When you have something cogent to add, then do so. Until then let the grown-ups offer their opinions.
O'Bama 08 !
I would love to see you proving me wrong then:-)
You don't sound like a REAL Hillary supporter.
It is hard to believe how weak our "leaders" are. It seems they have no spine at all. It is less than 24 hours after Obama got the number of delegates to become the presumptive nominee of the Democratic party; An event that was staged by the Obama campaign and party leaders (super delegates). Something that could have been done today...so
The people of NO didn't have a choice. That is a terrible comparison. You are stretching, man.
Why would you say that - are you saying that a REAL Hillary supporter can't harness the truth.
They can harness the truth, but only the truth that suits them. (ex: Clinton was for counting all votes. But she herself said MI &FL won't count and continues to discount the caucus states.)
So it's TRUE that she wants all votes counted, but it's also true the latter (that she said they wouldn't count/discounts caucus states).
I find it sad what happened to MI and FL, but I find is sad also that so many people will flip flop (and be angry when it's spotlighted). We really need to heal the party. Just not sure how that's gonna happen.
Everybody needs to relax a bit. We're all hungover from the primaries.
I know that a lot of Hillary supporters are upset over her defeat. Many of them say thatt they will not vote for Sen. Obama, but when they see Sen. McCain and Sen. Obama side by side--- it'll become clear.
The differences are many and vast. McCain is the wrong choice for our country. Remeber your party comes before your candidate and your country comes before your party. God Bless America
Obama 2008
It is easy for Obama supporters to say party before candidate as they continue to act like Repubilicans. Who, by the way say, country over party but actually put party over country. Obama supporters put candidate over party when they began to adopt the Republican view of the Clintons. How can it be party over candidate when the Obama supporters adopted the Repubican picture of the Clintons and used quite well.
If you think that Sen. Obama was the aggressor during the primaries, you are seriously mistaken.
If Sen. Obama had engaed in "republican" tactics, then he would have brought up The impeachement trial, Monica Lewinsky, Linda Trip, Jennifer Flowers, the $850,00 from Hsu, Whitewater, etc. Etc.Etc. The list goes on and on. He barely even touched the Bosnian Sniper fire thing. Had the roles been reversed, Hillary would have pounded it to the groud. And all she could say is that she misspoke?! How long did it take for her to admit that it wasn't true?
Just because Sen. Obama did take it lying down, does not mean that he used Republican tactics. So feel free to pull your head out of your ass.
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