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Dating Advice for Women: Don't fall for 'The Game'

Posted: 10/25/11 05:17 PM ET

Last night I opened to a few random pages of the book "The Game," a guide for pick-up artists by Neil Strauss. According to many guys I know, this is a must read. Its black leather, red satin and gold writing cover alone speaks volumes as to what you will find inside. Here's a disclaimer: I did not read the whole book. I opened to a few random pages. But what I did see needs to be addressed, and I would like to call women's attention to it as a helpful tool.

I am going to discuss just one page I saw. It was a stick figure drawing of a woman, and pointing to each specific part of her body, there were "lines" of suggestion as to what a pick-up artist should say. Here is the gist of what some of them said (I am not quoting, just giving the general idea) -- "Is that a wig? Oh well, it still looks kind of real." "You don't look like you work out, but that outfit hides it well." "I don't usually like acrylic nails but yours look ok." The pick-up artist technique is to throw a cut, a jab, and then a sort of a redeeming comment. This follows the "game" rule that to get a hot babe, an "HB," you have to cut her down. Make her feel bad about herself and insecure, so that when you come back with a semi-compliment, she'll be relieved that even though she has bad hair or bad nails or is a bit overweight, a man still wants her. It also prompts her to try to MAKE him want her when he's acting like he doesn't. This is why this tactic will end up getting the girl to sleep with the guy -- or so the theory goes.

I realized when I was reading this that I actually experienced something similar not too long ago with an ex. I specifically dressed cute that day because I was looking forward to seeing him. I put on a shirt I thought was sexy and I blow dried my hair. When he saw me the first thing he did was look me up and down, take my shoulders and turn me around to see the back, and then said with an almost disgusted expression, "is that a new shirt?" "Yes, why?" I asked. "Um, yeah, no reason" he said with raised eyebrows. I felt like crap. And then, he looked at me with another disapproving look and said, "What's up with your hair? Why's it all, like, glamorous today?" I felt awful. I felt unattractive. I felt unwanted by him.

And that is why this tactic can work: At first, my initial reaction was to try to get his approval, to come on to him and make him want me, to prove to him that I was sexy even though he didn't seem to think I was. After I breathed through it and checked myself, I realized that I don't need his approval and that I am sexy regardless of what he says ... that my worth is in no way based on him. So, in the end, his "game" backfired for him because it made me less attracted to him. I don't want a man that cuts me a down and can't compliment me!

Neil Strauss believes a woman who allows a man to make her feel cut down and unwanted will immediately do whatever it takes to MAKE him want her. Yet truly, ladies, if a man cuts you down, walk away! You don't deserve to be treated that way. The next time it happens, just observe first what it brings up in you, be aware of what it's doing to you and see if your initial response is to try to make him want you and prove to him that you ARE sexy. But then check yourself and remember that you are sexy and desirable just because you're you, not because a man says you are ... or aren't.

 

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06:46 PM on 10/27/2011
Yeah, maybe you should actually read a book you're trying to tell others to avoid. Not only is 'The Game' somewhat dated in PUA terms, where the neg isn't used much anymore, but your whole premise is taken out of context. Yet, you still managed to write an entire article based off of pure speculation to what the book contained. Guess it was a slow day for man bashing, huh.
01:00 PM on 10/26/2011
Important perspective, Ms. Sidell.

However, an apparently important point appears to potentially overlooked. Overlooking this point appears to be reasonably considered to focus attention on the wrong area as the source of the problem.

The article and certain comment appear to suggest that this is a “man thing” and appear to invite a certain level of “male-bashing”. However, history and contemporary reports appear to suggest that this type of quest for manipulative control of others appears to constitute a “human thing” that appears to be applied across nearly all social context lines.

For example, history appears to suggest that women across the ages in conducive cultures and contexts have been reported to similarly manipulate males.

In addition, such manipulation of the apparent human need for approval appears to be not exclusive to the dating context. Non-dating contexts such as friendship and non-romantic platonic associations appear to be susceptible to attempts to gain and/or maintain relationship control. Celebrity and exclusive brands appear to fall in to this category.

I welcome your thoughts.
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jf12
Occupying myself
07:09 PM on 10/25/2011
The theory that negs can work depends on two things. One is that the man is at least fairly attractive already, the other is that the woman is so attractive that she's startled by any negative comments by a man.
09:26 PM on 10/25/2011
Unfortunately it will work because so many women feel like they have something to prove to a man. Any man. Changes are it will not result in a relationship because it really is just a game. Who would want a relationship with someone who starts out that way..it can only go down hill from there.
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jf12
Occupying myself
10:06 AM on 10/26/2011
It is, especially, not any man, but neither is it many woman. Women only feel like they have to prove something to good looking men. And many woman commonly receive negative comments, so it wouldn't work for them.

Again, the only women that this can work on are those who think that their existence graces the world, and are continually validated in that belief. And the only men for whom this can work are those whom other women have previously found quite attractive.