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Mitt Romney's VP Pick Resurfaces Fundamental Question: Do We Dismantle The Social State?

Posted: 08/11/2012 1:16 pm

NEW YORK -- So much for the meme that the 2012 presidential campaign was just a content-free snarkfest of attack ads about secret offshore tax havens and failed Obama promises.

By choosing Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin as his running mate, Mitt Romney assures that the election contest will be in public what it already was beneath the surface: a referendum on the centrality of government social-service programs to the real lives of average Americans.

For the first time since Ronald Reagan, the (now) Tea Party-infused Republican Party is running as a full-throated foe of what the Democrats -- usually with bipartisan votes -- built over three-quarters of a century: Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, federal education spending and tax credits designed to support and enhance middle-class life.

In one of the more memorable and significant Freudian slips, Romney introduced Ryan in Norfolk, Va., on Saturday morning by calling him "the next president." And in terms of ideological purity and drive, it's true. If this ticket wins, Ryan and his Randian, libertarian, anti-federal philosophy will be the beating heart of the Romney administration -- despite the Romney campaign's immediate effort to distance itself from the Ryan budget.

A generation ago, Rep. Jack Kemp of Buffalo, N.Y., Ryan's political role model, pushed the Reagan administration to adopt his plan to slash income tax rates. The "Kemp-Roth" tax cuts of 1981 were the result. It began a 30-year-long era of starving the Treasury in the name of spurring private spending. Democratic sages such as Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-N.Y.) accused the GOP of having a deeper motive: to force a reduction in the size of the "welfare" state by denying it funds.

Instead, administrations of both parties have borrowed money and essentially kept the Social State intact.

Now the issue is: Do we keep it and pay for it? Or dismantle it and end modern government as we know it?

The central concept of the Ryan budget is the direct descendant of Jack Kemp's original thinking: give people a direct (and easily limited) cash grant for social services and let them shop for them on their own, or invest the money on their own. Kemp managed to get the idea enshrined into a housing voucher program at HUD, where he was secretary.

The experiment ended badly.

Now it's back, and a hundred times the size.

In part because of Ryan's budget -- endorsed by the GOP in the House and, in general terms, by Romney -- and in part because of hard times in the economy, the president's campaign long ago became, at its core, a defense of the Social State as we know it.

In a tough economic climate, he says, the last thing we can afford to do is dismantle the existing machinery of defined-benefit guarantees in Social Security, Medicare and other programs.

Ryan, and now Romney, are now saying just the opposite: that in tough times we can't afford not to dismantle that machinery, so taxes can be kept low or cut further.

That's the essence of what the election is about. It always was. Now it's out in the open. The functional question is: Which party will have the mandate -- and control of Congress -- to decide the final outcome of the debate?

 

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01:12 AM on 08/15/2012
I have voted both Democrats and Republicans. I am now in my 60's. When I just look as to how I am doing now, but more importantly as to how my children and grandchildren are doing...I am so saddened...I see that Obama had done nothing to make this nation better. My son has lost his job...lost his house...and has children to worry about. My daughter is worried constantly about the state of her job. My husband lost his job and could not find anything at his age. Obama was all talk and no action. Where are all these changes he promised? He said if there was not a significant change when he came into office, that he should be a one term president. Now he is back-pedaling on that. Although I voted for him, I realize now that he is arrogant and not a leader. I thought he would bring this country together. I was wrong. He has NO PLAN. He is all talk. And I do not want to go in the Socialistic direction. I know people in Europe who hate it. They do not have any input in which doctor they will have for surgery or even when the surgery will be scheduled. I am very fearful for America.
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Linda Lyons-Bailey
09:10 PM on 09/10/2012
Ask your conservative heroes to pass the American Jobs Act.
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kmkirb
Oh, the contradictory GOTP hypocrisy of it all
10:33 PM on 09/10/2012
Obviously you don't fact check either, just as the pollster for the RNC admitted, "We'll not have our campaign dictated by facts." Obama has done so much to preserve our liberties & our rights, but the GOP has done nothing but obstruct. Obama wanted to plug the tax loopholes that people like Romney take advantage of to get companies back to the states, but the GOP said no, just like they've said no on everything for almost 4 years.

Manufacturing is on the rise, & 4.5 million jobs have returned in 4 years. If they had passed Obama's jobs bill, just imagine how low unemployment would truly be. Obama had to cut the jobs bill up in itty bitty pieces to help the vets. GOP wouldn't dare vote no on Vets. Now when they come home, they're able to take advantage of getting jobs, businesses getting tax breaks when hiring vets, & the expanded GI bill which provides better education for the vets & their families.

Romney wants to take away Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid. Obviously you missed that part as well as other vital information! R/R wants to privatize everything, which will extort the hard working Americans monies only for their fat cats. You think things are bad now, you have no idea what you're wishing for if you want to return to the Bush Era, only this time it will be much worse.
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dan laurie
Us Not Them Finally
05:54 PM on 08/14/2012
I know what I would like to "dismantle," but I'm not a carnivore, much less a cannibal. So let's just dismantle this malignant CANDIDACY.
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10:49 PM on 08/13/2012
I can't help but notice that yet again HuffPo has published THOUSANDS of comments after one from me, but the one I made is still in the pending file. No swear words, nothing rude or insulting, and yet my comment will come too late to matter to the debate, it it's ever posted at all.

I wonder if it's because I was mildly, but respectfully critical of President Obama or mildly but respectfully critical of Howard Fineman?
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dan laurie
Us Not Them Finally
05:38 PM on 08/14/2012
Let it pass and keep contributing. The debate is just getting started.
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earthinretrograde
Information Is Power
08:05 PM on 08/13/2012
What is the connection today between the Federalist Society, the Tea Party, and the Republican Party.
It's strange ..just as I typed Republican party it seemed somewhat ludicrous..like that party as I knew it ...just does not exist anymore. It's a misnomer now.
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yankhadenuf
Let them eat trickled down crumbs
07:29 PM on 08/13/2012
The whole premise of FDR's Social Security was to avoid future Hoover 1929 Crashes when it came to American senior citizens' retirement security
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dan laurie
Us Not Them Finally
05:39 PM on 08/14/2012
And Glass-Stegall was to prevent the stock market crash of 2008. Not much left. Get out there and scream.
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sidesjw
TRUST US MITT
09:09 AM on 08/13/2012
"Do We Dismantle The Social State?"

They want to starve the unfortunate to death. The New Christian Way.
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Cheryl Apollo
06:02 PM on 08/13/2012
Discusting isn't it.
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sidesjw
TRUST US MITT
09:05 PM on 08/13/2012
Very.
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earthinretrograde
Information Is Power
06:08 PM on 08/13/2012
Starve their bodies to save their souls. They will repent their evil ways and convert for the handouts they receive.
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sidesjw
TRUST US MITT
09:06 PM on 08/13/2012
Patterns developing! lol
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demisfine
Often correct, NEVER right.
08:18 AM on 08/13/2012
Even W stopped in his "privatization" effort.
And the nation is lucky he did.
The 2008 crash would have spurred poor houses like they had in Great Britain in the 1800s.
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earthinretrograde
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06:03 PM on 08/13/2012
We are headed back to poor houses, jail, indentured servitude, slavery ..with the current Republican party. What else can we expect from the corporate owned Republican party? When corporations and government become ONE...what do you expect ?
We have all heard this :" When my union friend retired he had a pension and health plan after his forty years of service. When my corporate employee friend retired he got a gold watch."
Ryan plan eliminates the gold watch at the end of service, because there will be no end of service. "Work all day for low pay or no pay(subsistence wages), all the time, all your life." Some credit to final statement goes to John Cloud.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,996169,00.html
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anitaroosevelt
want some Ayn Rand with those fries?
09:46 PM on 08/13/2012
Well said. The rampant anti-Unionism in the Right is a clue to the effort to return to the early Industrial Revolution where workers had no time off, children labored in factories, no healthcare, no pensions and everything you bought had to come from the "company store".

A lot of brave people fought for the rights that the Right Wing takes for granted. The people who vote for the Romneys of this world will one day wake up and find out they aren't welcome at the banquet - but it will be too late.
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Linda Lyons-Bailey
09:13 PM on 09/10/2012
...and when you're too old and sick to work anymore, curl up and die. You're no longer of any use to the Very, Very Wealthy.
07:52 AM on 08/13/2012
This kind of thinking went out with "Gone with the Wind." The lack of emotional maturity, the lack of understanding of the importance of cooperation and interdependence, all of which is embodied in this thinking, is so archaic and destructive, it is a wonder that it has any support at all. This may well be a reflection, though, of a group of people finding solace in thinking that deprives others of what they themselves do not have.
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anitaroosevelt
want some Ayn Rand with those fries?
09:49 PM on 08/13/2012
This kind of thinking never died in the "hacienda system" or in the Middle East. I think some of America's billionaires want to be like those billionaires.
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mannapat
Truthiness shines a light.
01:04 AM on 08/13/2012
We've had the tax cuts for the rich "job creators"
for the last 12 years. Sure looks like that doesn't work!
Austerity doesn't work - see UK and Greece.
Pass the budget put forward by the Progressive caucus.
No increases in Pentagon spending + enforce the "buy American" provision.
Raise the minimum wage to $10.
01:01 AM on 08/13/2012
Fineman wrote "the centrality of government social-service programs to the real lives of average Americans". If by "average" he means senior citizens and fatherless families, then we're an aging nation overloaded with an additional, unsustainable mass of wealth destroyers. If he's wrong about "average", which I believe he is, then to most of our countrymen these programs are far from vital. The unproductive (of their own volition) must be stigmatized as they were in the past, before Fineman's statement rings true, and the average american is nothing more than an average thief.
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dan laurie
Us Not Them Finally
05:42 PM on 08/14/2012
I'm sorry, but I'm sure I speak for many that NO ONE can make sense of what you just said.
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earthinretrograde
Information Is Power
09:17 PM on 08/14/2012
The unproductive (of their own volition) are not Ryan's target.
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Linda Lyons-Bailey
09:15 PM on 09/10/2012
Sure they are. Them, and everyone who's productive but whose work no one wants to do, and therefore the wages for it are horsecrap. Don't you know, the only people who deserve to have anything are the owners and the high level managers? Let the rest of us eat cake.
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chuckl8899
10:44 PM on 08/12/2012
sorry, i meant this
This is an interesting assessment of Ryan's budget plan and free market plans for medicare from the Washington Post. Health care may not be immune from free-market principles, but we don't necessarily want to treat health care the way we treat normal markets. Here's the thing about markets: Lots of people can't afford to participate in them. That's usually okay. If you can't buy a television, you'll watch less TV. If you can't buy a car, you'll take the bus. But health care isn't like that. As a society, we don't think it's okay when people can't participate in the market for treatments for, say, Parkinson's disease. The way markets deal with scarcity is by pricing some things out of reach. Are we comfortable with life-saving treatments being out of financial reach for the people who need them? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/05/AR2010020504796.html
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demisfine
Often correct, NEVER right.
08:17 AM on 08/13/2012
This is why the ACA was needed.
Romney, in his heart, meant to do the right thing in MA.
NOW, his soul has been poisoned by the Tea Party, he can't embrace it any longer.
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chuckl8899
05:46 PM on 08/13/2012
I think Gov. Romney would have made a formidable candidate, and would have been able to run on his pretty decent record. Candidate Romney has become a wind-up doll for the radical right. They call themselves conservatives, but they are the real radicals in this election.
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dan laurie
Us Not Them Finally
05:43 PM on 08/14/2012
I haven't a clue why you are saying he has either a heart or a soul. And he is THRILLED to have been pushed over to the far right. That's where the heartless and soulless live.
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Cheryl Apollo
06:10 PM on 08/13/2012
I hope our country has not become so cold as to see privatising medical treatment in the same light as buying a stock. I can not afford to play the stock market and could not afford to treat my husbnds Parkinson's, Diabetes, Emphasema and heart condition. We are people not comodities.
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chuckl8899
10:43 PM on 08/12/2012
MAZ article

Business opportunity for tablet services

Benefits to customers

This is an interesting assessment of Ryan's budget plan and free market plans for medicare from the Washington Post.

Health care may not be immune from free-market principles, but we don't necessarily want to treat health care the way we treat normal markets. Here's the thing about markets: Lots of people can't afford to participate in them. That's usually okay. If you can't buy a television, you'll watch less TV. If you can't buy a car, you'll take the bus. But health care isn't like that. As a society, we don't think it's okay when people can't participate in the market for treatments for, say, Parkinson's disease. The way markets deal with scarcity is by pricing some things out of reach. Are we comfortable with life-saving treatments being out of financial reach for the people who need them?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/05/AR2010020504796.html
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Linda Lyons-Bailey
09:29 PM on 09/10/2012
The problem with that is, how much do you trust the "free market" not to just raise and raise prices, fatten like hogs at the trough (like insurance companies are doing now), and not price poorer people out?

I sure as hell don't.
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Jeff Hannan
Monopoly is a cautionary tale, not a blueprint.
10:21 PM on 08/12/2012
Do you think that if our social compact is dismantled that you're going to see any gain from that? Heck no, you aren't going to see diddly. This isn't about "saving" any money. Those people are NOT going to give you anything back and they're NOT going to really drop your tax rates. Those people are just going to take our safety net away and give that money, and all continuing funds since they won't be cutting your taxes, to their rich friends. That is their plan. You are a fool if you cannot see.

They want a dog-eat-dog world, and guess what? The deck is already stacked against you. The really big dogs already have all of the wealth. You have nothing in comparison and if they have their way, you never will. If you let them, they'll be coming for what little you have because they are never satisfied. This sort of greed is a disease. It ate their souls. There is nothing left but darkness. Let's NOT got there.

Obama/Biden 2012
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anitaroosevelt
want some Ayn Rand with those fries?
09:55 PM on 08/13/2012
"The deck is already stacked against you. The really big dogs already have all of the wealth."

Thank you. I've been appalled for a long time at the vastness of the wealth being accumulated by so very few .

There is just no reason for the drastic increases in prices across the board. Costs haven't increased in comparison and wages certainly haven't.

We've been robbed.
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ColinFromLasVegas
Bang the cowbell LOUDER, rightwingers!
10:17 PM on 08/12/2012
I think it's hilarious that, just a little over one day has passed since Romney announced his Vice President pick, and Ryan ALREADY has been without any mistake categorized by the Obama campaign, defined without any doubt to be a poor choice. And he hasn't even started.

The main thing that is hurting Ryan is his horrible political record in the do nothing 112th Congress; the most useless Congress in American history. And he wholeheartedly advocated blocking and standing in the way of every piece of legislation in the House of Representatives. How can he stand on a podium and tell people that what he will do is better? He can't. And he has proven in the past two years already that he can't.

I say stick a fork in him. He's well done and it's over.

Obama/Biden 2012!

Vulture/Voucher 1040s!
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dan laurie
Us Not Them Finally
05:49 PM on 08/14/2012
Yeah, Romney thought he was getting a two-week jump on nominating the VP -- and it was always REQUIRED to wait until (duh) HE was nominated for Prez before announcing the VP pick. But apparently, he's just given a two-week jump on ads EDUCATING Americans to the mortal danger posed by this pick. And maybe we'll even still have time to pivot back to..... his TAX RETURNS!!!
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02:12 PM on 08/15/2012
Generally, I think Romney made a VP choice to save his failing campaign from his own convention's drama. Anything to get the media cycle away from the *show us your taxes* debacle.
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lowrodiay65
10:15 PM on 08/12/2012
Lets see, we spend $450 billion per year overseas supporting the american empire. Why can't start with cuts there instead of trying to destroy the middle class?