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Now, Not Even Norway Is Safe

Posted: 07/23/11 01:29 PM ET

On a two-week trip to Norway that ended on Thursday, I decided that the country was the only sane, trouble-free place on the planet, a gorgeous retreat, as secure and peaceful as high-walled fjord, where people leave their laptops and car keys untended, never lock their doors, and follow the ethic of cooperation they learned a thousand years ago while sailing and fishing for cod in the harsh Norwegian Sea.

In Norway I saw a country cushioned by oil money yet vividly conscious of environmental change; communitarian if not socialist and yet brimming with energetic entrepreneurs; concerned about immigration, yet still suffused with an ethic of welcome.

And now, not even Norway is safe. Which means that no place is. Which means that the society is under increasing pressure everywhere.

From what I saw, there is -- or was -- no more open and trusting place left in the West, if not the world. And that made it tragically easy for a madman or madmen to wreak havoc in Oslo this week.

Up and down the western Norwegian coast, I saw evidence of the almost innocent openness and trust that so characterizes the culture of the North.

In the busiest restaurant in Alesund, the picturesque capital of the cod-fishing industry, I did in fact see a woman rush off to run an errand -- and leave her open laptop, car keys AND wallet on the bar.

When I pointed out to her that no one would be that casual in the US, she shrugged and then smiled. "Maybe I shouldn't here, but I do. It's Norway."

Farther north, where it is colder yet in the winter, people often leave the keys in their cars -- and their cars running -- while doing chores elsewhere.

The sense of trust extends to public behavior in public places. In the Hanseatic Museum in Bergen -- a 400-year-old wooden home filled with priceless artifacts -- visitors are allowed to roam the premises virtually without supervision, and are allowed to open and close closets and doors with ancient paintings and hinges that would be encased in plastic or under armed guard elsewhere.

There have been occasional thefts in recent years from some of the 800-year-old wooden "stave" churches that dot the countryside, but they are still largely approachable at all times of day and night.

In Oslo -- a national capital that still feels like an overgrown small town -- there is no thicket of bollards and guard shacks surrounding the government buildings.

And that made it so easy for a man with a witches' brew of fertilizer chemicals to do his deed.

I'm sorry to say that while Oklahoma City was a horrible shock, it did not seem entirely foreign to the soil on which it was perpetrated.

I know the age-old history of the Vikings, and they were a fearsome and bloody lot, and Europeans further to the south used to pray that the North Men would not ever come their way.

But that was so a millennium or more ago. The Oslo Rampage doesn't seem in any sense Norwegian. Or it didn't until this week.

 

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Erewhon7
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10:21 AM on 07/25/2011
Today, no country whose sizable minority population adheres to their mullahs' political and religious indoctrination can be safe.
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Wisdo
semantics shamantics
06:37 AM on 07/25/2011
Nowhere is "safe". But that depends on how you define "safe". Most people die of old age.
12:49 AM on 07/25/2011
I too thought Norway (of 1989) a beautiful, idyllic place. But please note...whatever we find about this attacker --- Norway has been experiencing growing violence and terror threats.

This is a fact...See the articles in the page I copy...Note that an older English article from a large Norwegian paper (AFtenposten) talks about the growing number of "assault rapes" which are mainly done by persons of foreign birth upon mostly native Norwegian women. See other articles on this page about this same story.

A RECENT article in another paper claims that OSLO police report currently that about 100% of reported "assualt rapes" were done by foreign born persons. Apparently many are Muslim.

http://www.fastbrowsersearch.com/results/results.aspx?sp=1&q=norway+assault+rapes&c=web&s=DSP&v=13&tid=%7bFBA9BF4A-1856-4ac1-93C1-2C8379834681%7d

This claim of the last few years...is worthy of more research!

Plus, you will find that Norway - has had some actual threats of violence against it.

So...whatever motivated Mr. Breivik (whose face you have posted all over this page like a sinister Nordic "model") - there is a real and growing tension...with some documented past threats...and some growing attacks on women...in once peaceful Norway.

Huff Post editors...let's dig deeper !
09:24 PM on 07/24/2011
Well, COME ON, no place is completely safe. Norway is still about a million times saner and more civilized than this place.
12:50 AM on 07/25/2011
Search under "Norway assault rapes" and look for the growing attack rapes there...and who is doing them.

There is growing tension and some growing violence in this once quiet country!
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shankapotomus
Dems are falling apart.
09:11 PM on 07/24/2011
Not safe from what? Terrorism it didn't think there was such a thing, i do remember the White House saying not to use the words War On Terror though.
07:47 PM on 07/24/2011
Although I don't think people should live their lives in constant fear, I also think it is not realistic to assume that everyone's intentions are innocent. We all have to be wise.
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dennishastings
Musician
07:29 PM on 07/24/2011
Globalism, the Global Village, Capitalism: FAIL
07:15 PM on 07/24/2011
Mr Fineman, it really is all relative,

Despite this terrible tragedy, Norway - and Canada and Sweden and New Zealand and Switzerland - and a host of other countries - remain considerably safer places than the United States.
Viper
Former repub, still repenting
08:34 PM on 07/24/2011
Our murder rate is infact 12 times higher than theirs
06:49 PM on 07/24/2011
Noreay had this terror experience for JUST one day and it is enough for the Norwegians.

But tiny Island Sri Lanka had this same if nor higher level of cruel terror to put up with for 30 long years where Norway armed the Tamil LTTE to fight the forces in Sri Lanka. Norway did the damage for 30 long years not just one day. Hopefully Norway now realizes the horror and terror and a small taste of it and stop supporting terror groups and habouring them by giving them safe heavens to operate from. LTTE has its bases in Canada and Norway. Norway still keeps them under protection and give them the weapons to fight the forces of government in Sri Lanka!!

Well what goes around comes around!!! Keep this in thoughts!!!
06:32 PM on 07/24/2011
We can't allow one bad apple to spoil the stew.
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Robert Weller
Retired AP Foreign Correspondent
05:42 PM on 07/24/2011
Why do you run an AP story with no source on the Unabomber angle when I had given you a well-sourced story on the same issue four hours earlier. Further, why run a headline that says Breivik "borrowed" from the Unabomber. When did plagiarism becoming borrowing.
Konnie
PO'd PROGRESSIVE
05:38 PM on 07/24/2011
i'd say that the madness of the world infests itself everywhere. the soul of each person encountering that madness is tested to join it or reject it. it found a troubled soul in norway...........just as it found its way into the sick mind of another in oklahoma. we can't fight wars with armies - but with watchfulness, mental health availability and more education than faux noise provides.
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Scottsman
Carpe Diem
05:07 PM on 07/24/2011
for long as I can remember , Pandora's box has slowly been opened, Overpopulation, Corporate Plutocracy ramped around the world, Dwindling resources, food/water. A pint can't hold a quart, and if you pack too many stressed animals(humans) together with no real solutions, Oslo is just the beginning... We must do better Try Harder.
12:53 AM on 07/25/2011
Norway is NOT "overpopulated". Much of this land is divided up by mountainous ranges. The land has only afew million people and might be more comparable to a large urban US area.---except that the population is generally scattered all over it.

But search using: Norway and Terrorist Threat. Search Norway and Assault Rapes. And see who is accused of doing what...I
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Scottsman
Carpe Diem
10:48 AM on 07/25/2011
I was referring to the planet as a whole ,not just Norway,
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Alois SaintMartin
aloistmartinsequinox.blogspot.com
04:45 PM on 07/24/2011
Do`nt leave those Pop Tarts in the Microwave to Long Lady, or There will be a Charge the next time you use It !
04:42 PM on 07/24/2011
No hiding from hate.