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America Sure Has a Funny Democracy

Posted: 01/03/12 10:22 AM ET

"You Americans sure do have a funny democracy."

"Tell me about it."

"Let me get this right, you have to win the party nomination in order to be on the presidential ballot."

"So far, so good."

"And the party nomination is determined by these states saying which candidate they want."

"That's right."

"But does a candidate have much of a chance of getting the nomination if they lose in the first 3 states, Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina?"

"That candidate would probably be done."

"So really the people in those states have much more influence over the primary than people in other states. Guess that means there really isn't one-person one-vote."

"True, but we have far more egregious examples then that."

"I know about gerrymandering, the Electoral College, the Senate representation distortion, blocking third parties from office... but today I am focused on this Republican primary season. So those first three states, the ones with so much power, surely they represent a large percent of the American people."

"Actually Iowa (about 3 million), South Carolina (about 4.7 million), and New Hampshire (about 1.3 million) have roughly the same population as New York City. They are dwarfed in population by states like California (about 37.7 million), Texas (about 25.6 million) and New York (about 19.5 million)."

"So those aren't populous states. Surely they must represent the ethnic mix of the United States."

"New Hampshire is 94% Caucasian and Iowa is even higher. Hispanics and Latinos are approaching 1/5th of the US population but are rarely found in those three states."

"So these states don't have similar demographics than the rest of the US. Are they much better educated?"

"New Hampshire is one of the top 5 states regarding the percent of residents with at least a college degree but Iowa and Alabama are near the bottom."

"So residents of these three states, three states that comprise only a very small percent of the US population, three states whose demographics do not come close to mirroring that of America, two of which states have education levels far below that of the rest of the US are going to be the major deciding factors in who represents the Republican party."

"That's right."

"You Americans sure do have a funny democracy."

"Sure do."

 
 
 

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robjh1
That Job Just Isn't Into You!
05:10 PM on 01/04/2012
Great article! What's even funnier is the fact the candidates must beat up on each other and out of that two will end up being running mates. An old kiss and make up. Remember Ronald Reagan and George Bush in the eighties?
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Alexey Braguine
Author of Kingmaker, a novel
06:11 AM on 01/04/2012
Short and sweet, a great article.
nothing2fear
They only call it Class War when we fight back.
12:05 PM on 01/03/2012
Thanks Mr. Friedman for the food for thought, but a 2x4 might work better on the American public as first you have to get their attention ; {
nothing2fear
They only call it Class War when we fight back.
11:59 AM on 01/03/2012
A managed democracy is so much easier to control, it gives (obviously from the current results) a poor example of representation for the people, but those in power have an easier time keeping that power from the people.

The question; is this what people want or have they been manipulated into acceptance?

On top of that they neuter the constitution as if passing specious law can legally remove our constitutionally guaranteed rights. To date it seems congress can and the people have few choices accept to refer to the safe guards our founders placed in those documents they considered important in the preservation of the rights of the people, the declaration of Independence and our Constitution:

The Supreme Court declared in 1897:
The Constitution is the body and letter of which the Declaration of Independence is the thought and the spirit, and it is always safe to read the letter of the Constitution in the spirit of the Declaration of Independence

Together they give the people the right to rebel against injustice. If what we see today with the congress opposing the will and the spirit of our constitution in law and their refusal to prosecute frauds perpetrated against the people is not great injustice then slavery in any form, torture in any form unreasonable imprisonment in any form will become the future and “freedom” a mere slogan.
11:52 AM on 01/03/2012
None of it makes sense. But most importantly America isn't a Democracy it's a Republic. It was never meant to be a democracy.
07:06 PM on 01/03/2012
I'm not sure if you are referring to "representative democracy" (aka republic) versus "direct democracy" or if you are questioning the true intentions of the founders. If it's the latter, then I am confident there is a wealth of information that we can both cite that the founders didn't trust the general populace to select leaders.
09:19 AM on 01/04/2012
Decent article, except, by design, the US is in no way a democracy, funny or serious, representative or direct. Republic is not a synonym for representative democracy. In a republic, natural rights are protected from threats, such as the tyranny of the majority. From Wikipedia: "The Constitution of the United States ratified in 1789 created a relatively strong federal republic to replace the relatively weak confederation under the first attempt at a national government with the Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union ratified in 1783. The first ten amendments to the Constitution, called the United States Bill of Rights, guaranteed certain natural rights fundamental to republican ideals that justified the Revolution." I am concerned that we conflate the ideas of republicanism and democracy, and this leads to unclear thinking.

This was not really your point though. Why should Iowa caucus first and New Hampshire's primary be held before Texas? There seems to be no good answer for that outside of tradition. But in my opinion there really is no compelling reason to change anything either. The states and their citizens choose our President, not all our citizens. This is a noteworthy distinction.

Democracy mainly refers to our use of an election process and the positive right to vote to select our representatives. And now, despite the original design of the Constitution, amended to include our Senators. The electoral college process for selecting a President was carefully designed to not be democratic.
11:08 AM on 01/04/2012
Democracy in late 18th century means something akin to ''Mob Rule.'' The voice of the mob (the people I should say) is the House of Representatives; and of the Wise, the Senate, with a monarchical executive to allow for strong leadership - the Presidency.

And these the three powers each the three forms of government referred to by Herodotus described further by Aristotle enlarged upon by Polybius and re-expressed through an interpretation of the British constitutional framework by Montesquieu.

Given, since those days, the development in political theory and practice we can now call the United States a democracy. I know it is tedious for rightists and worshipers of the past to take into account, but time passes, things change and that includes usage of such words as 'democracy.' Not founded as one, but the United States is certainly one now. And, being a social artifact, a construct, it is highly imperfect and as such should be subject to constant reform and renewal.
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Whistlejackett
Niki Ashton for NDP
11:06 AM on 01/03/2012
Funny is right! But I think more like predetermined. Kind of like the rule that if you are black with a criminal record, your vote doesn't count. You know, the Bush thing in Florida, on an 1850 law of some sort. Things can really get greyed out in the USA. Good post thanks.
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tonygumbrell
retired working stiff
10:53 AM on 01/03/2012
Great!