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Posted: January 4, 2010 10:13 PM

Arianna Talks About Misplaced Priorities In Fighting Terrorism (VIDEO)

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Keith Olbermann invited Arianna onto his first show back after the holidays to discuss the way terrorism has become a political football. Following Richard Wolffe's analysis that our first line of defense is our intelligence system, Arianna pointed out that systemic failures are exacerbated because we are distracted by the wrong war at the wrong time in Afghanistan.

Keith and Arianna also discussed how the GOP has tried to exploit the terror threat without acknowledging things that happened under their watch. "The media need to hold Dick Cheney accountable," said Arianna, pointing out that the former vice president has been lobbing political grenades via press releases instead of interviews where he might be held accountable by the media.

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Keith Olbermann invited Arianna onto his first show back after the holidays to discuss the way terrorism has become a political football. Following Richard Wolffe's analysis that our first line of def...
Keith Olbermann invited Arianna onto his first show back after the holidays to discuss the way terrorism has become a political football. Following Richard Wolffe's analysis that our first line of def...
 
 
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05:33 PM on 01/05/2010
Everyone is power hungry including Progressives. That's why some have turned so aggressively against President Obama. I don't think they really care about the Public Option. They just want President Obama to label himself a Progressive because they feel it would help them out of the wilderness they find themselves in. The don't call them Liberal progressives.
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01:31 AM on 01/08/2010
Not true Randy. Look at both sides, listen and you will hear the ones who are power mongers. There are people who are more generous than not. Even if I'm alone in my beliefs and actions, I am one of those. I do believe that power is an asset like any other and should be used not abused. Personally, I seek no power except for the feeling I get by having friends and family who love me. I do feel powerful then.
03:15 PM on 01/09/2010
Where's the proof that that is the case? Because you "think"?
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02:38 PM on 01/05/2010
KO is MSNBCs answer to Fox's Beck.
02:27 PM on 01/05/2010
Media and hold somebody accountable in the same sentence. Our media has lost all credibility. Everything you see or read has it's own agenda, either obviously apparent or subtly hidden. That is why this and other posts comment sections are so valuable to the world. A far left comment, then a far right comment, somewhere in the middle is the truth. I believe the American people are slowly re-uniting behind Obama as he expectedly grows into his position, then as we all see every day how corrupt our Legislative branch has become.
02:14 PM on 01/05/2010
Arianna says our first line of defense is intelligence, but our intelligence agencies have not only been the problem in causing hatred of Americans overseas and fomenting war, but they have also been working to encroach upon American civil liberties.

The problem that no one seems to want to face is that terrorism is not a global network. That idea was concocted during a trial in the late 90s as the FBI attempted to prosecute bin Laden in absentia and the only way they could do it was by linking him to a group like the mafia. This global network issues was then exploited by the same neocons who warned against a non-existent communist threat in the 70s. Terrorism is a solitary act, or an act by small groups that are not necessarily related. No matter how secure you are, you cannot control the behavior of small groups of people who want to do crazy things.

What people have failed to focus on is that 1) the underwear bomber failed, and 2) in ten years there have only been three attempted hijackings/bombings, one of those being 9/11. At most--being generous--4000 Americans have died in the past 20 years from terrorist attacks (not counting soldiers in war situations). That's an average of 200 people/year. 100 times that many die in drunk driving accidents, but we don't ban alcohol. 1000 times that many people die from medical mistakes, but we don't have significant reform for doctors.
02:33 PM on 01/05/2010
Thank you for your comment, and how many billions or trillions, USA is spending to fight "terrorism"?
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12:07 PM on 01/05/2010
AH continues going on her media rounds opposing the AFGH war with no solutions of her own. Everyone is doing nothing but critisizing, backseat driving with no ideas or solutions. She named all the other states these terrorist are coming from, but what are her suggestions? Would she suggest we invade all those states? If Obama were to withdraw all the troops tomorrow and an attack happens (which is not far fetched), what will she say then when the President is getting screamed at by Americans for not keeping them safe? People need to think about these things. All AH is doing is kicking the can down the road, she is against war, period...so just say that, stop making excuses and move along.
12:21 PM on 01/05/2010
Or against wars that do NOTHING to enhance our sevurity perhaps?
02:03 PM on 01/05/2010
The media is too busy helping Cheney throw those verbal attacks because the MSM is only interested in propagating and fueling the idea of a fight between him and the current administration. Because helping Cheney stay in the News instead of being held accountable for his mistakes and illegal acts is helping the media barons hold to their audience. At least, this is the way they think!
12:37 PM on 01/05/2010
Wars can only be conducted against another country. FYI, Al queda is not a country.

This should be a criminial, not military prosecution.
Pennsylvanianne
There is no sin but ignorance.
02:06 PM on 01/05/2010
Absolutely right. Prosecuting terrorists criminally is nothing new: Bush-Cheney opted for that course with the shoe bomber, who had an attorney and trial and is now in prison. Why in the world people are calling for torturing the underwear bomber is beyond me, as is why the MSM does not call Cheney out for his administration's releasing the underwear bomber's TRAINERS. He criticizes Obama, but squeaks by with NO questions about his responsibility in all of this. The media has been doing a terrible job of getting at the truth, questioning sources and following up on their statements since 9/11. WHY?
10:40 AM on 01/05/2010
Since the former Vice-President was and is so adamant about there being an attack on American soil and it's citizens; one would tend to think that he has a hand in seeing that this happens.

I'm sure there are those who are loyal to the past administration - more so they are loyal to Cheney and carrying out his agenda. If these agencies do not cooperate with one another then I would say they have been told to do so.

Cheney will go to any lengths to prove that he was and is correct and he has those who agree with him planted as moles through-out the Obama administration.

Once upon a time other countries hated America, now we've got Americans hating America. Why? Some would say because there is a democrat sitting in the Oval Office and other would say because that person sitting is of African descent.
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12:11 PM on 01/05/2010
"because that person sitting in the Oval Office is of African descent"

BINGO!
12:41 PM on 01/05/2010
being african-american doesn't have a thing to do with anything. You're either for the country or against it... read his book... he states and I quote... "I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” - them being his "muslim" brothers and sisters. White, black, yellow or green... you either give a darn or you don't... and this man DOESN'T.
10:25 AM on 01/05/2010
Okay, a vent about Keith's show last night.

I'm a fan of Keith and Rachel and watch them nearly every evening. But I'm capable of listening critically, and I have to say he was a bit over the top last night. In the intro to the show he defined Brit Hume's idiotic comments encouraging Tiger Woods to convert to Christianity as proselytizing, which he defined as "forcing" others to accept your beliefs. "Forcing"? Where's the element of compulsion there? This from someone who is normally very quick - usually appropriately so - to pick on others' imprecise (and hyperbolic) choice of words.

Then the thing about intelligence/security agencies possibly deliberately sitting on information they should have been sharing. IF TRUE, that's scandalous and amazing. Which is exactly why one should be cautious in spreading the story. (Call me naive, but I tend to think outrageous accusations come with a high burden of proof.) But he seemed ready to jump to the conclusion that that was the explanation. And then the bit on why did the failed plane bomber not detonate in the bathroom, where no one could stop him, instead of going back to his seat. In conjunction with the previous piece, it was almost like watching a conspiracy theory form.

Rachel's done this sort of thing too, albeit very rarely.

Guys, if you're reading these comments, I love you both dearly, but can't you see that this sort of thing damages your credibility...even among your fans?
Matoka
Ask The Questions, but Question the Answers.
10:32 AM on 01/05/2010
NOT --- For Brit Hume to even suggest such a thing is despictable!
10:38 AM on 01/05/2010
I'm objecting to the word "forcing."
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Javida
03:12 PM on 01/05/2010
I see nothing at all wrong w/ Brit Hume's comment. It was merely a suggestion. Doesn't freedom of speech apply to Brit Hume?
10:45 AM on 01/05/2010
History is scandalous and amazing, especially American History. I don't understand why you cannot see that the U. S. is capabile of that an more.....just like the church.
11:01 AM on 01/05/2010
But why jump to the conclusion that the most outrageous explanation must be the correct one? That's all I'm saying. (And "the church" is neither here nor there, unless you're taking Brit Hume as representing it. And even if he did, it would take much more than him shooting off his mouth to FORCE someone else to accept his beliefs. This isn't the Spanish Inquisition.)
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humanbeing-rick
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10:23 AM on 01/05/2010
I saw the this broadcast, and it was an excellent one. Arianna and Keith are like minded, sure, but they did great putting the truth out there like no other news show did. Good for them. The mass media promotes the right-wing and the corporatists way too much, they get way more than their fair share of the air waves because they got the money. We need more shows like this to help counter the rest of them.

We have a lot of chickenhawks running around out there crying that the sky is falling, just because the media manipulated them. So some fruit-cake attempted to blow up his underpants on a plane? Does that mean we should drive our nation into bankruptcy starting more wars? Why are people so fearful of something that has almost no chance of affecting them? Flying is still one of the safest ways to travel.

As for Dick Cheney, he is an extreme capitalist who will do anything for a buck. He is a war profiteer, with his Halliburton outfit, they are raking in millions off of these wars. It is understandable, selfish, and un-American.
02:47 PM on 01/05/2010
humanbeing-rick, well said!
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09:44 AM on 01/05/2010
Question: Does Keith Olbermann ever talk to someone that may have an opposing point of view?

Or does he merely lob grenades from the comfort of his studio at MSNBC and wait for his "friends" to come by and say "Yea, hey der Keith nice shot at the former VP der, good shooting."
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Theatrixnyc
Remember John Lennon:Power To The People!
10:19 AM on 01/05/2010
and what- pray tell, is the method on Fox?
12:47 PM on 01/05/2010
Fox airs opposing viewpoints all the time. Maddow does so now and then (although Pat Buchanon is hardly a representative voice of the right.) Olbermann NEVER has a guest who disagrees with him.
Matoka
Ask The Questions, but Question the Answers.
10:29 AM on 01/05/2010
Do you ever watch Keith?
08:10 AM on 01/05/2010
Manipulation of the "knee jerk" "exclusivity-itis" "less than sophisticated" "American Idol-ized Media Production” outlets are exactly what Cheney and the GOP are perfect at. How do you think we turned left on the way to Afghanistan and into Iraq? Manipulation of the "knee jerk" "exclusivity-itis" "less than sophisticated" "American Idol-ized Media Production” “National Enquirer is journalism, isn’t it?” outlets are exactly what Cheney and the GOP are perfect at. How do you think we turned left on the way to Afghanistan and into Iraq?
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08:06 AM on 01/05/2010
Accountability with prosecutions of those who did bend/break the law in the name of profit.
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lennix
08:04 AM on 01/05/2010
we complain about everything just becuase some one gets on the cable shows who are not experts on anything and have not been in a political office of any kind, and tell us they know how it should be done no think you i will go with the people who see the reports every morning, not some one who has esp and can see the future. i hope this gets posted
08:03 AM on 01/05/2010
The media, as it stands today, will do nothing positive, they are just as corrupt,and wothless as our government.
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amaycatbaker
08:11 AM on 01/05/2010
True, independently owned papers were much better at finding stuff. These large media outlets not so much, because that large outlet could also own a food company.
08:19 AM on 01/05/2010
K.O. " Journalistic Terrorist"
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09:42 AM on 01/05/2010
Would you like to explain your post? How is Keith O. a " Journalistic Terrorist"?

You don't like the fact that he brings fact to news. You don't like MSNBC because it doesn't open its airwaves (unlike Fox) to the far-right shepherds that spread their lies and hypocrisy unchallenged to sheep like you.

Please, I'm sure many of us here are curious for an explanation of your post. Do you have the ba11s to bring something, anything that proves K.O. is a " Journalistic Terrorist"?
07:56 AM on 01/05/2010
We will continue to see Cheney's mug on Huff Post, MSNBC and elsewhere for one reason.

And its not his lucidity, nor his ideas - Cheney, like Palin, still grabs eyeballs.

And that is what show business is all about, folks.
08:07 AM on 01/05/2010
And we will continue to see K.O. and Arianna giving us all the answers to the worlds problems.
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08:29 AM on 01/05/2010
Mostly I see KO asking questions, not giving answers. The other...knows it all !!!!
Matoka
Ask The Questions, but Question the Answers.
10:30 AM on 01/05/2010
Like the fascination with a car crash -- or other disaster!
07:48 AM on 01/05/2010
U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Te.rrorize U.S. Cities to Provoke W.ar With Cuba

By David Ruppe

ABC News

N E W Y O R K, May 1, 2001 - In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to k.ill innocent people and commit acts of te.rrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a w.ar against Cuba.

Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible as.sas.sination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, h.ijacking planes, blo.wing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent ter.rorism in U.S. cities..

The plans were developed as ways to trick the American public and the international community into supporting a w.ar to oust Cuba's then new leader, com.munist Fidel Castro.

America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could bl.ow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."
08:03 AM on 01/05/2010
Same as Gulf of Tonkin under LBJ and incidents in Spanish-American War. This is common in American history. Government works with certain "cooperative" reporters and news outlets to get the publicity they want to fire up public opinion.
HarkaDahl
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08:20 AM on 01/05/2010
It happened then and it happens now. It lends credibility to the notion that in the final moments just before 9/11, key US players allowed it to happen. Not government policy or premeditated, but a fabulous opportunity to launch some long awaited pet wars using the avalanche of anger and grief (and perrenial ignorance). This is how unscrupulous people work and its certainly not restricted to the US. To players of The Great Game , every tragedy, every human catastrophe is an opportunity to grab something, settle unrelated scores, or simply invade and steal. Every empire has done it in history so why would someone as secretive, as paranoid, as power crazed as Cheney not do it too?