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Arianna joined Suze Orman and Faye Wattleton on CNN's Anderson 360 tonight to discuss the great strides women have made in the workforce as well as the challenges facing them as they continue to rise.
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As we probe, we begin to find answers to Freud's age-old question: What do women want? It is not, as Freud suspected, exactly what men want. Beneath their achievement-oriented lives, most women crave passion, beauty, connection, and a sense of the sacred.
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Arianna- Delivered this speech on women in the workplace in 2000 see- http://www.ricklippin.com/papers8.htm
Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa
The biggest challenge for women in the workforce is finding a job, particularly for those coming out of college. There is a dearth of positions and more than half of all college grads are women. Couple that with existing prejudice towards women and there is a recipe for a lost generation. It is incumbent upon those who have achieved to give a start to this next generation.
In rough economic times such as today, some women who have the intellectual skills to do work outside of the home to help with their family's domestic economic health, would rather sit at home and make believe that their husband's income can manage all of the necessities that are required in their daily lives which is not the case. This causes a greater degree of tension between them and within the household, with jealousies fermenting away in the background, as well as lack of consideration for each others worth, as he can't supply and fulfill all of her wishes, because the money just isn't there, and she can't keep up with his advances and newly found relationships in the workplace. Suzy homemaker never throws socials and parties to entertain his associates to take readings of their characters and assemble a more sociable discourse to heighten his standing in the corporate community, aside from his talented interface. Men would like successful wives, they soon realize that allure alone does not pay the bills or meet economic situations that could also, imperil their collective health as a family.
Of the men and women I know in leadership, there are more women than men with whom I'd like to work.
Some women leaders demand more actual work of women subordinates b/c the don't want them making all women look bad.
As women are more integrated into the work force, this happens less and less.
Demand equal pay. Know what the going rate is for your profession and experience and get it.
For data, go to your professional organization and sites like Salary.com, PayScale.com, SalaryExpert.com ...
Sell what you deliver (value based pricing).
The violence directed toward some women as they rise in the workplace is not being fully covered.
If you read some of the comments in this piece you may be shocked and saddened. This is a huge problem that is being ignored and brushed under the carpet.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eli-davidson/give-them-what-they-want_b_314766.html
Best,
Eli Davidson
As the CEO of Balancing Life's issues, Inc. ( a nationwide corporate training company) we focus on teaching women skills to ask for things and help that they need. Interesting that no one comments on women that are single mothers, remarried or widowed...statistically, that is a large population. All of us need a tool bag of communication tips that empower women to go forward. I know for some women it helps to ask for a raise and for some they need to demand it ( appropriately,) some of us need to turn up the volume and change our own lives. I am happy to help!!! As a CEO, mother of 3, step mother of 2 and remarried for 4 years I am learning to speak up in a postive manner that gets results.
As a men I do admired all their effords and multiple tasks of their life. Never was easy to be a woman. Decades ago they had to fight for their own rights.
For decades their were under the American-men- "Machismo" Until they liberated themselves by going to work, and many cases being the bread-winner of a household.
So combining all of the above. Men in general should recongnized more the opposite sex. Just by the fact that men's life was obtain by woman. Should be a the biggest reason to love them, and respect them. Because in any form, and shape. at the end they are all Mothers.
I thank you for given us (men) life.
Many women have to work, especially single parents. We need to be supportive in every way we can for these women. But many women work to have the bigger house, extra car, nicer vacation, self-fulfillment, etc. While these women are acheiving their personal goal, their children are being raised by day care centers and are getting fatter because mommy is too tired to cook a nutritious supper so she swings through the take-out. Exactly whose life is being improved here?
Why is it always the woman's fault when kids are in daycare? Where are the fathers in all this? It takes two to tango you know.
I don't think it is our place judge other women who work with regard to their reasons for doing so. You, and many others, make distinctions between women who "have" to work to support their families, and those who do because they are "achieving their personal goals" and perhaps upgrading their lifestyles while in the process.
It seems perfectly okay for men to be ambitious, to want that jazzy new sports car, the trophy wife, whatever, but when women work because they'd like more household income, we frown on that.
My policy is NOT to judge working women and condone some, while disapproving of others. Let's all support each other, period. We are smart, we are graduating college in record numbers, we are making headway with regard to the glass ceiling......let's not be each other's worst enemies.
Dad can cook a healthy nutritious meal too, ya know.
It is totally sexist & rude to expect that women work & be responsible for all of the domestic arrangements.
Read
Feminine Mistake, The: Are We Giving Up Too Much?
http://www.amazon.com/Feminine-Mistake-Are-Giving-Much/dp/1401303064
Parenting is a part-time job, for both parents.
Women who take too much time off from their careers find they cannot go back.
Then they find, the kids have grown up, the husband has left and they are on the street with a master's degree they can use to wipe their @ss.
It isn't about luxury. It is about self preservation and being sure you can provide for the kids. You know, even if your marriage is blissfully happy, the guy can still get run over by a truck.
I thought this was an excellent segment and all three women made valuable contributions to the discussion.
AS A WOMAN MYSELF......
I ALSO THOUGHT IT WAS AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.... Especially the segment about women working under the supervision of other women, and the sometimes petty jealousies that take place from insecure women supervisors, afraid that another woman presented competition for their jobs. I myself experienced some of the same thing during my working career. But for the last 12 years before I retired, I had the pleasure of working with a woman supervisor that was excellent to all of her staff, because she was NOT INSECURE. She knew what she was doing, and gave us all credit and room to make our teamwork wheel turn a little easier. But on the other hand, another female supervisor, in our division, was a pain in the A.... to everyone on her team, because she was afraid she would do something totally stupid, and someone would oust her out of her job. (particularly, another woman)! As a result, she wound up in and out of hospitals all the time, suffering from stress more than anything! In other words,......... SHE WAS A REAL PIECE OF WORK THAT WAS SLOWING DOING HERSELF IN !
I totally relate to what you write. I also worked for a woman for several years and saw many of the same types of behaviors you mention in your post (both good and bad). We women have very complicated relationships with other women, and we often bring each other down for the very reason you mention -- insecurity. You can bet men in the workplace (and social/political milieu) are aware that we women can eat our own, and they benefit from this.
Women managers do not contribute to any more workplace snarkiness, petty conflict, & base stupidity than men do.
I see this less and less.
If we have full equality, there won't be the feeling that you have to get the "token" slot.
Conversely, if we have full equality, women will be able to be as petty and insecure as men without it being linked to gender.
Suze is right about how women spend their money....
In our family...My husband always paid the house bills...I was to pay groceries, clothes for the kids, piano lessons, gym lessons, school costs, etc. etc... Mine seemed to disappear rather quickly...He stayed stable in what he spent...I never did.
I'm not married. I don't have children, but I do live with my male partner and I think it's a problem of perspective. I have to remind him to buy toilet paper so that it doesn't run out. It's a stupid example but maybe it's also the way I think about maintaining my home, as a woman. I'm always worried about having enough so that I can provide for others. I can see how your "small" costs add it up like mine - and I'm not actively taking care of any people - I just think about it taking care of things, all the time. Weird.
Is CNN biting off NBC's "Women" special? Not cool...
Suze + Arianna = DREAM TEAM
Women in the work force do have a much steeper hill to climb than men. The best of them will be true to their nature and become much better team players than the men. Most women care deeply about doing their jobs well and understand that a well organised team has a much better chance of making that happen. Problems can arise for women in the work place when they try to act as a team member in the vertical structure of male oriented enterprises. This is not to say that women don't know how to be competitive, they do, but for most of them competition is part of a game they play with each other. Work, either in the home or in the work place, is serious business where competition between co-workers just gets in the way.
Very interesting and insightful discussion, thank you. My question is why the division of gender roles is the way it is? My answer is that humans are the most successful predators on the planet based on a division of labor whereby the male is the aggressive hunter and the female is the nurturing reproducer of the next generation. This behavioral model is hard wired into us over millions of years.
In a pride of lions, the alpha male has only two real responsibilities; protect the pride from the threat of other males and make sure the females in heat are impregnated by him and only him. The females also do the hunting for the pride, but will back away from a kill if the alpha male approaches. If a solitary male approaches a pride, a battle will ensue between him and the alpha male, the very definition of a "hostile take-over". Remind you of Corporate America?
Terrific analysis using the pride of lions. The women do all the work, and the stregnth of the male steps in for the prize. One more interesting feature about women, we tend to only listen to men!. We canabolize other women. We're jeolous about EVERYTHING. It's not about competition, but more about putting down so we look better.
Look at primates. Through the baby on the back and everyone, male and female gathers.
In bonobos, a close genetic relative of ours, females may be the alphas and first to eat.
We all have small canines because competitiveness did not contribute to the survival of the species.
Actually, we probably only survived as a species through cooperation, in groups.
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