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Howard Fineman Discusses GOP Governors On 'Hardball With Chris Matthews' (VIDEO)

Posted: 05/26/11 09:00 PM ET

HuffPost's Howard Fineman appeared Thursday night on MSNBC's 'Hardball with Chris Matthews' to discuss the falling popularity of Republican governors in places like Florida and Ohio.

In reference to Florida, Fineman explained:

"Well I think what's going on there, Chris, and what's going on in a lot of other places is that Republican governors who were elected as reformers are running up against the fact that their states have run out of money. The stimulus money from the federal government has disappeared, state budgets are hemorrhaging, Republican governors are having to make tough, unpopular choices, whether it's cutting education or money for schools or for health care or for roads and bridges, for all the things that state government does. People wanted reform, but they wanted somebody else's welfare program to be cut."

Fineman also pointed to a larger potential cause for these falling poll numbers:

"The other thing that's happening here is that the national economy isn't recovering that vigorously ... so in states like Ohio and Pennsylvania and Florida and all these states, the economy just isn't good and that makes whoever is in power, including the governors, unpopular."

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HuffPost's Howard Fineman appeared Thursday night on MSNBC's 'Hardball with Chris Matthews' to discuss the falling popularity of Republican governors in places like Florida and Ohio. In reference to ...
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TyneCrescent
A Word To The Wise Is Sufficient
03:58 PM on 07/04/2011
Many of these GOP governor's rode in on a wave of disenchantment and displeasure with government. They parlayed those fears into votes with rhetoric of inclusion, convincing many that they had their best interests at heart. Voters, in search for brighter days, and more jobs believed what these snake-oil salesmen were selling.

They convinced voters that by voting against incumbents, they would be establishing some sort of mandate. They were not, only giving those politicians a green light to legislate their way of life into their constituents. The polls reflect a case of buyer's remorse.

These newly elected officials resorted to attacking women, the poor, the unemployed­, workers, the middle class, immigrants, minorities, Planned Parenthood, NPR and anyone who didn't support their far-right agenda. An effort to disenfranc­hise voters and garner support, then pass idiotic, repressive legislation. No wonder their numbers are falling when you look at some of the legislation they've enacted, and the lives of the everyday people that are affected. Education cuts, services cuts like firemen, police and teachers, withholding and cutting unemployment insurance are not easy to stomach, is not in the public's best interests. They wouldn't admit that that was their plan all along. Voters are beginning to see that, although too late for the last round of voting, but the next time, its these politicians offices that will be on the chopping block. Their hopes of retaining their power are getting slimmer by the day.
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kareemachan
watashi ha tororu ga oroka da to omoi masu。
01:48 PM on 05/27/2011
Did he forget the fact that some of these govs have *refused* funding that might help their states?
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rkfdred
11:43 AM on 05/27/2011
Many of these new republican governors BARELY won their election yet they are acting like it was a mandate. Yes, the states have problems but these governors are using these problems to push through their far right agendas and not even trying to solve the problems. It will serve them all right if they are voted out as quickly as they were voted in and I suspect their next election will be a mandate AGAINST them. Most people are more middle of the road and do not like far left or right legislative activism. These guys are attacking women, the poor, the unemployed, workers in general, and trying to disenfranchise voters. Voting is supposed to be everyone's right yet they are doing everything they can to make it difficult in the hopes of retaining their power. I hope these new laws will be challenged because it is wrong.
maruski
Liberal Lutheran; lean left, save America!
12:06 PM on 05/27/2011
Right on, the whole 2010 "sweeping rejection of Obama policies by voters" was in fact race by race barely won by Repub candidates.

There was no mandate, no demand by "The American People" to shackle Obama and revert to the strict right wing agenda ot do away with women's health care etc.
The wrost part of it to me is the control the GOP has over the redistricting because it was a census year. THAT is a problem.
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teapot90
90 yrs since Teapot Dome, GOP corruption unabated
09:52 AM on 05/27/2011
This entire discussion is taking place in a vacuum. Not one mention of the fact that Republicans aren't just dealing with tough economic times, its that they are deliberately making them worse. They are not focusing on jobs as they promised. They are busy attacking unions, on cutting programs they don't like on ideological grounds like planned parenthood. They are cutting jobs, and using their anti-woman, anti-child, anti-labor, anti-poor bias to target those cuts. People are angry because, even now, in America's second Great Depression, they are attacking their old class war enemies, and settling old grudges.
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charlygardel
My micro-bio is empty. Or dependently-arisen?
10:46 AM on 05/27/2011
You are exactly right.
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dmsdzinr
Progression wit a twist of sarcasm.
10:56 AM on 05/27/2011
The GOP is trying to do away with the SAME things they have ALWAYS tried to eliminate. They were against Social Security and Medicare from the day these 2 policies were enacted. They are ALWAYS trying to eliminate government programs in favor of privatization. Because it is the private corporations that line the GOPs' pockets. Plus the GOP has and ALWAYS will be the party for the Wealthy. They do not care about the Middle Class nor Poor in America.
09:52 AM on 05/27/2011
I felt both these guys missed the point.The disastifaction with these governors is not that they are finding it hard to govern because their states are out of money and there is no more stimulus coming from Washington.

The problem is that the dogma of these governors is presenting them only with options that their constituents do not support. Their dogma does not allow any notion of shared sacrifice but calls for the entire burden of budget balancing to be carried by the middle class and other workers. Their dogma also often calls for taking the increased burden they are asking these groups to bear and passing that money onto big corporations (ie. not really solving any budget issues at all).

Their dogma has also called for and led them to sponsor and ratify radical social engineering that they were not elected to undertake. Their dogma has not led them to legislation to first and foremost create new jobs as promised.

That is the discussion that should have been had by these two men, but as usual the media pundits failed terribly and only played footsies with the issues.
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garymc8
We got OBL- not gop
10:48 AM on 05/27/2011
DOGMA? ITS CALLED TOTAL LIES.
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kasinca
Liberal Vietnam Veteran
09:49 AM on 05/27/2011
Howard is missing the real reason: OVERREACH !
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dfranz
With Liberty and Justice for all
09:39 AM on 05/27/2011
I think ther radical agendas which are contrary to most reasonable people's thoughts are turning the voters off and have energized a portion of the population that puts the Tea Baggers numbers to shame. This country is based on democracy. Everyone of these governors are trying to run things like they're in the old Soviet Union.
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garymc8
We got OBL- not gop
10:49 AM on 05/27/2011
Amen. They are SO CRUEL even the dumb ones are starting to notice. Now if we can just get to the racist ones.
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hootie1fan
A liberal, educated, Catholic Yankee living in AL
09:24 AM on 05/27/2011
Isn't it funny how these governors AREN'T touching corporate welfare?
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JudgeMoonbox
09:24 AM on 05/27/2011
Howard Fineman: "Well I think what's going on there, Chris, and what's going on in a lot of other places is that Republican governors who were elected as reformers are running up against the fact that their states have run out of money."

Is Mr. Fineman aware that Gov. Walker got a break on corporate taxes before he claimed that Wisconsin couldn't afford to honor the union contracts? Does he know that Gov. Christie refused to raise income taxes on the superrich in New Jersey?

He's in the business of telling others what's happening in the world, shouldn't he have a better idea of that reality?
luvtheusofa
You do not own the "truth"
09:13 AM on 05/27/2011
I watched this segment and I loved Matthews comment relative to the GOP Governors always acting so self-sufficient until something goes wrong. Case in point the recent tornados. (Believe me, my heart breaks for these communities and I want nothing more for them to be re-built and bigger and better than before. The loss of life is staggering and absolutely horrible). Each one of those states want their federal money to re-build with no concessions.

Again, I absolutely want them to be re-built and believe that my tax dollars go for making our nation bigger and better than before when disaster strikes, but the GOTP cannot stand in their convictions.
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jcwtts1
Elections have consequences
09:01 AM on 05/27/2011
So, what can you do to help the dems and crush the GOP. GIVE MONEY! look money is tight everywhere. But you have to add 5 bucks a week to your family budgets. They have unlimited corp money in every race. We need a war chest like 2008. That means 500 million in small donations under 250 bucks. We can do it but we have to start now and we have to be consistent. We need to pick up a couple of senate seats, my understanding is that Gabby Giffords is going to run in AZ. She'll win. We need to take Maine. Snowe is going to get a primary challenge. We'll win that too if she's out. We have to hold elsewhere and win 25 in the house. 24 now. Completely doable. But it is going to take enormous money and energy.
maruski
Liberal Lutheran; lean left, save America!
12:16 PM on 05/27/2011
a gifford's run is not likely--people who have the kind of brain injury she has do not become their "old" selves. here is an article talking about it.
http://madmikesamerica.com/2011/04/gabby-giffords-update-small-steps/
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jcwtts1
Elections have consequences
09:01 AM on 05/27/2011
If the GOP were behaving like a political party these govs and the GOP congress-people would push for a second state targeted stim. This stim worked. It was simply too small by a third. Why? Because the GOP wouldn't vote for one at a trillion . So we got what we could. Remember that we needed GOP votes to beat the GOP filibuster in the senate.

But this is the problem with the GOP rhetorical position for the last two years. If the Dems are evil. If we hate America, if we're corrupt, and our policies are socialism, then guess what? You can't negotiate with us. If Obama is the devil then you can't ask him for help. Right? I mean if you ask the devil for help what does that say about you? So the GOP govs, thanks for winning in 2010 by the way, have to eat this sht sandwich the GOP congress and rhetorical position has created. Shakespeare called it hoist on your own petard. Which was a clever way of say you just fd yourself. So, as the GOP flames out, and as their party, fighting social battles while the world falls apart around them, dies, you can look back on their obamamania, their hatred of O and their inability to behave like adults during the worst crisis facing this nation since WWII as the reasons why the cease to exist.
luvtheusofa
You do not own the "truth"
09:24 AM on 05/27/2011
Um.....I like you. F and F.
scipio2009
Alan Wolfe's "The Future of Liberalism"
12:17 AM on 05/29/2011
Agree with your entire post, sans the talk of the stimulus. In pure "economic impact" terms, the entire stimulus package needed to be bigger; I'm not ready to say $2.5 trillion big, but bigger, nonetheless. And yes, the GOP likely wasn't going to vote for even a $1 trillion package. Still, the stimulus ended being a lot smaller than it even had to be, for the simple fact that "activists" kneecapped the entire messaging effort, with the House, in my opinion, screwing the process in Congress.

Granted that it still probably wasn't big enough, President Obama, with atmospheric approval numbers and a national election victory, was heading to the White House with a clear, simple, and easy to message plan for a "stimulus package"; a "temporary, timely, and targeted" two-year, $950 billion package, made up of $50 billion to "test run" some of the major ideas of his campaign, like Race To The Top, rural broadband, and expanding research funding, $300 billion in aid for state/local governments, $300 billion in funds for the "bottom 95%" and small businesses, and $300 billion in funds for public infrastructure projects.

If people had just taken Obama's lead, stuck to the simple messaging of a "targeted, timely and temporary package, with aid for state/local governments, small business, and the 'bottom 95%', with a serious commitment to improving public infrastructure", I don't see how President Obama doesn't get the package he wanted.

Anyway, the Republican's "chickens are coming home to roost".
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Sabrina1
08:50 AM on 05/27/2011
The government is a system that funnels money from one place to another.
It is not that we do not have the money, it is just the money is not where it belongs to keep our economy healthy.
Profits are being made at the expense of The People, jeopardizing our country’s future.
08:40 AM on 05/27/2011
Are there any Republican supporters left other than the well-healed who benefit from the tax cuts and the pychos who think war is a good thing as long as me and mine are the ones dieing?
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geo999
"Well, who's gonna monitor the monitors?"
08:38 AM on 05/27/2011
It is amusing that Fineman, usually agreed with hereabouts, is now castigated for acknowledging that Republican governors are the adults in the room, and are currently unpopular with the folks who seem to really believe that the solution to their fiscal mess is to cut other people's programs and to raise other people's taxes.
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confuseddemocrat
08:47 AM on 05/27/2011
He is being criticized because his analysis was incomplete. And tell me why isn't the Democratic governors of NY and CA who have proposed some painful cuts not suffering the same fate. Huh? Because the GOP governors are using their power to attack political opponents NOT to fix the economy.
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JudgeMoonbox
09:33 AM on 05/27/2011
"It is amusing that Fineman, usually agreed with hereabouts­, is now castigated for acknowledg­ing that Republican governors are the adults in the room,"

Which Republican governors? Not Christie (NJ) not Kasich (OH), not Scott (FL), not Walker (WI). Look at their cancelling high speed rail projects. Would an "adult in the room" put the profits of Big Oil ahead of their constituents?