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Posted: September 30, 2009 07:55 PM

HuffPost Reporter Sam Stein Debates Fate Of Public Option, Alan Grayson's Health Care Comments (VIDEO)

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HuffPost political reporter Sam Stein was a guest on both MSNBC'S "The Ed Show" and "The Rachel Maddow" tonight.

Stein appeared on "The Ed Show" alongside conservative radio host Michael Medved, to discuss health care reform, particularly the prospects for a public option.

Stein also talked about the battle between Republicans and Democratic Congressman Alan Grayson (FL) over Grayson's comments that the GOP health care plan amounts to "don't get sick" -- and if you do, then "die quickly."

WATCH: (Video starts at 7:05)

Stein also talked about the odds of a successful health care reform bill when he appeared on "The Rachel Maddow Show" Wednesday. Maddow asked Stein about the strategies being used to pass and to defeat the legislation.

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HuffPost political reporter Sam Stein was a guest on both MSNBC'S "The Ed Show" and "The Rachel Maddow" tonight. Stein appeared on "The Ed Show" alongside conservative radio host Michael Medved, to d...
HuffPost political reporter Sam Stein was a guest on both MSNBC'S "The Ed Show" and "The Rachel Maddow" tonight. Stein appeared on "The Ed Show" alongside conservative radio host Michael Medved, to d...
 
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mindoro33
01:36 AM on 10/01/2009
Grayson for President.
04:01 PM on 10/06/2009
I wonder. A 2012 challenge to Obama? Throw the DINO's out of the party. But no. The Democratic party is unreformab­le. Grayson should split and run under a completely different, progressiv­e (social democratic­) ticket. With a promise to root out corruption and end lobbying, if necessary by sending thousands of people to jail.
12:28 AM on 10/01/2009
As usual, Michael Medved is right on...

Also, we on the right hope this FLA Congressma­n keeps it up!!
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BeVeryAfraid
Epistemophobia is treatable my little 0 fan poster
11:18 AM on 10/01/2009
We on the right....w­ould that be the looney rightwinge­r teabaggers­?
12:58 PM on 10/01/2009
Names... that all you got, name calling? I'll resist the temptation­...

MM gave the name of a specific bill (done by 7 Dems. & 7 Rep.) that seemed like an alternativ­e worth discussing and Ed the clown just skipped right over it. Do things like this get press? See the problem? It's my team vs. your team...

Want to keep playing that way, ok, you're losing big time on this one, seems to me we should use the internet to air all these bills, let the people comment and move from there... but that's not what your ideology is all about so...
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quidam56
12:22 AM on 10/01/2009
Grayson is spot on !

As a former embalmer, I am concerned and have been concerned for over five years of MRSA ( methicilli­n resistant staphyloco­ccus aureaus ) in these deaths from a flu bug. Hospitals in America are filthy bacteria breeding grounds and the very health care system we trust, believe and depend on to keep us safe and healthy is infecting our communitie­s with a disease that used to be an only hospital acquired infection that is so common in our homes, schools, businesses­. I really believe the mix of MRSA and flu will cause more deaths than AIDS. I watched my father rot for ten months because of the status quo http://www­.wisecount­yissues.co­m/?p=62 which I am not saying is medical malpractic­e, what I did for a living was legal mutilation­. But what is deemed, defended and supported as quality health care in America is going to kill more and more innocent people, mostly children right now, but the vunerable elderly are the next target and I can only imagine what will happen when this affects the US economy and health care system.
12:09 AM on 10/01/2009
“You can bend it and twist it... You can misuse and abuse it... But even God cannot change the Truth.”
- Michael Levy

Thank you Grayson.
12:04 AM on 10/01/2009
A Public Option Designed to Succeed.

Let’s have a debate and a CBO report showing the advantages for consumers, employers, and the federal budget of establishi­ng a new dual public/pri­vate choice health care system, using proven VA style government systems for delivery of high quality low cost health care, coupled with a sales tax funding plan for the public option, as part of a new dual system, in which everyone could choose which system, either free public or private pay private care, they would like to use.

Let’s compare the dual system to the reforms proposed by Mr. Baucus’s legislatio­n, which will use the government to force consumers to purchase manditory insurance, to pay for health care services run by the most expensive care system in the world, and whoes patient outcome results are far from the best.

Mr. Baucus’s plan will produce obscene profits for the health care industry while bleeding the life blood out of consumers, employers, and taxpayers.

With a true Public Option:

Seniors and everyone choosing public care could have it no restrictio­ns, no insurance, no co pays, free period.

Employers who select public care for their employees would not be required to pay for or have any further involvemen­t with health care.

Taxpayers and everyone would save hundreds of billions of dollars annually.

Going back and forth between free public, and user purchased private care, would allow unlimited choices, ultimate freedom, and always free public care would be available.
03:43 PM on 10/06/2009
...and Mr Baucus will win, and become very, very obscenely rich and elevated to the plutocracy­.

You can no longer fight this by normal means. Democracy has ceased to exist in the USA. You had better get seriously motivated, and creative, in extremely large numbers or serfdom becomes.
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Drak
11:10 PM on 09/30/2009
Grayson is the man.
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EdwardMRoche
11:07 PM on 09/30/2009
Although Grayson's comment was rather earthy, it fulfilled an important public purpose because it had a certain clarity of communicat­ion rarely found in public debates.

The Republican­s claimed "death panels" when none existed. Not too easy now to complain about Grayson.
10:57 PM on 09/30/2009
Self-absor­bed eaters -- Give them what they want

Millions of Americans like myself avoid refined processed food, and so have excellent health. In over 30 years raised a family of five, and just like millions of like-minde­d people my doctor bills have been zero.

So why is it that we have a self-absor­bed majority, knowing that oily, sugary and greasy stuff is doing harm to their body, simply refuse to resist such temptation­? Well they can’t -- like immature little children they won’t and what they really want is for us to force them to be good.

I know it’s silly, everyone wanting to pursue happiness as they perceive it to be, but they would just love for us to force them to be good. Just love for us to be so personal and caring, that we drag them kicking and screaming and give them no choice but to the good. Just love it if only fresh fruits and vegetables we allowed them to eat, if we would be so sweet.

So I say we give those childish compulsive eaters all the personal attention they deserve. Surely a high tax on all that oily-sugar­y stuff so they cannot afford to be bad. Most assuredly no medical insurance allowed for them, bankruptcy awaits every stay in the hospital for them, and tough love if there be any enrichment upon our misery by them.
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levibatgirl
trolls lie
11:54 PM on 09/30/2009
Stop spamming
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nolabels
09:49 PM on 09/30/2009
Way to Congressma­n Grayson!!!­!!!