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Posted: August 18, 2010 08:02 AM

Huffington Post political reporter Sam Stein went on Morning Joe this morning to discuss the details of the proposed Islamic cultural center two blocks from Ground Zero, particularly the background of the man leading the project, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf.

On Tuesday Stein reported that Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, who is now being called a "radical Islamist" by conservative critics like Newt Gingrich, was brought to a forum hosted by the FBI shortly after 9/11 to help ease the social tensions between Muslim Americans and federal agents.

[The FBI] needed some sort of conduit, someone who could explain how to deal with these cultural sensitivities, and they brought in this imam to help brief agents about what was the best way to go about interrogating suspected terrorists without trampling on their rights or offending them on religious or cultural grounds...[Imam Feisal] is exactly the type of moderate Muslim voice that we should be elevating, not downplaying. I think the fear that a lot of people have is this debate is gonna turn off the people like this imam, that we desperately need to actually build better relations with the Islamic-Muslim world.

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Huffington Post political reporter Sam Stein went on Morning Joe this morning to discuss the details of the proposed Islamic cultural center two blocks from Ground Zero, particularly the background of...
Huffington Post political reporter Sam Stein went on Morning Joe this morning to discuss the details of the proposed Islamic cultural center two blocks from Ground Zero, particularly the background of...
 
 
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02:59 AM on 08/26/2010
There's a saying that goes "You keep your friends close and your enemies closer." If you keep this in mind you'll be ok
08:04 AM on 08/19/2010
And the reports from NY are crying out for George W Bush to make comments about the mosque, to help pull oil-bama's chestnuts from the fire.

From the Washington Post - Eugene Robinson “I…would love to hear from former President Bush on this issue."

From the New York Times’ - Maureen Dowd “It’s time for W. to weigh in”

The thought would be classic... oil-bama invites Bush to provide some gravitas
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faith
peace-love-brotherhood
10:43 PM on 08/18/2010
Commenter markpkessinger at Truthdig noted the following youtube video which is very helpful. It lets us viewers see where the proposed site is located and the surrounding community. It has commentary as well. I must say it genuinely provided me with a different perspective. I would encourage HuffingtonPost to post this youtube video. Many americans are unfamiliar with Manhattan and do not realize how anonymous the area is. Very interesting. Also, many americans (me included) did not realize that it is meant to be a cultural center with its fundamental basis in Sufi religion. Sufis are known as the whirling dirvishes and are about as peace loving as a group can be. Really interesting stuff. I encourage everyone to take a look at the video, or go to Truthdig and see the information for yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6cpEAvvYB4 .
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hsmith3
personal chef
11:30 PM on 08/18/2010
I want each person to see how stupid they are...I want to build a center that the world can point to and say we allow those that hate us can have a front row seat in telling the world that they killed us and we allowed them to build a monument to it. As Americans we must show the world that we don't care.
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hsmith3
personal chef
11:44 PM on 08/18/2010
Please Joe, give our country away.. Please give it to the Nation of Islam, I am tired of fighting you. You obviously have a better plan, where gays and radical Islamics have a better plan for us. Lets continue to be dependant on Saudi oil, screw the common folks, Let's beat bid business to the ground, let all people of the world enter our bourdaries and demand we serve them. Let's bend over and take whatever they want to do and be grateful for being the receptical
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LarBear
10:48 AM on 08/19/2010
hsmith3....

Trust that you crossed the line of Ignornce a long ways back...

You ignore it is American Citizens who have owned this property for 27 years who want to build here... What, only Christians are true Americans?

I do NOT know what the Zoning is in the area... Could they tear down the 13 story building and put an actual Mosque in its place? Mosques are dedicated to worship only... No 500 seat auditorium. No swimming pool, Gymnasium, work out center, Maybe it's the Cooking School that makes it a Mosque? Or, that Day care Center? And will be open to people of all Faiths... OMG That makes it really scarey!

As Americans we may just want to show the World, WE ARE Americans!
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markpkessinger
04:09 PM on 08/22/2010
Thanks for the referral, Faith!
Javalation
Laughing in a Daydream
09:12 PM on 08/18/2010
The Republicans don't really care about the Mosque, or any of the people involved. They are political opportunists looking for any kind of edge in the game of politics. They exaggerate and distort faux issues in order to position themselves as appearing to be on the side of Christianity or patriotism.
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PeruvianFlakley
You betcha!
09:10 AM on 08/19/2010
Anything to keep from focusing on their candidates this election season.
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RyanC1384
07:17 PM on 08/18/2010
The right wing does not have the ability to be constructive around a nuanced issue.
They chose one side (in this case emotional) and are blinded by any other argument.
Here is my op-ed piece on this debate: share & comment! Thanks...

http://www.doubledutchpolitics.com/
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mheister
Raconteur. Blog michaelheister.com
07:07 PM on 08/18/2010
I don't often agree with Joe, but he totally pwned Gingrich.

Altho I doubt either of them even knows what pwn means.
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JaxReader
Hear reason, or she'll make you feel her.
06:53 PM on 08/18/2010
"When religion is good, it will take care of itself. When it is not able to take care of itself, and God does not see fit to take care of it, so that it has to appeal to the civil power for support, it is evidence to my mind that its cause is a bad one." Benjamin Franklin,, Letter to Dr. Price.

"The Government of the United States is not in any sense founded upon the Christian Religion." 1797 the treaty of Tripoli, signed by President Washington, and approved by the Senate of the United States

" ... I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should `make no law respecting establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and state." Thomas Jefferson, Letter, Danbury Baptist Assn. January 1, 1802

there is not a shadow of right on the general goverment to intermeddle with religion. Its least interference with it would be a most flagrant usurpation. I can appeal to my uniform conduct on this subject tha I have warmly supported religious freedom." James Madison - father of the Constitution
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David Eisenbach
Host of 10 Things on H2
05:31 PM on 08/18/2010
Donney Deutsch please stop pretending that you speak for "New Yorkers"!
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Martha12
05:09 PM on 08/18/2010
There is a mosque in the pentagon and there has been no complaint.

This is not a mosque it is a Muslim cultural center with a culinary school among other things and.......a prayer room.

Americans who uphold the constitution, truly believe in it and are true patriots, have no problem with this.

Americans who are too willfully ignorant want to differentiate Americans of the Muslim faith and the extreme radical terrorists, bask in their hatefulness and fear by painting an entire faith with a terrorist brush.
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frixx
05:40 PM on 08/18/2010
Why is there a Mosque in the Pentagon?

What happened to separation of church and state? Or mosque and state?
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Martha12
06:58 PM on 08/18/2010
The same reason that there is a place for every faith to worship there.

The US military has never been without chaplins, rabbis, etc.

They are near every battle field in, every military hospital, on naval ships.

The US military supports and offers comfort to troops ALL religious faiths and does not exclude Muslims.
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NWBrunette
Blessed Girl
09:06 PM on 08/18/2010
Exactly. Fanned.
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Diogenis
05:04 PM on 08/18/2010
Religious tolerance and Islam? Does not exist. Read the Qu'ran...etc
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frixx
05:40 PM on 08/18/2010
Read the qu'ran.
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Beatriz09
05:53 PM on 08/18/2010
Did YOU read the Qur'an ... ?
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Ahmed Ahmad
Atheists UNITE!!
04:45 PM on 08/18/2010
Elevating a imam that is PRO sharia law??? Are you kidding me? Since when should Americans support amputation, lashings, and death by stoning for adultery?
This imam supports sharia law and should be heavily criticized!
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Beatriz09
05:55 PM on 08/18/2010
Sharia for starters ... :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia
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MrsOrtiz
They don't teach micro-bio in vokie school
11:58 PM on 08/18/2010
Since the Constitution was based on the Bible. Ok, so this isn't the punishment for adultery. It's for a kid dissing his parents. According to Sarah & Beck, child services is violating the first ammendment.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+21%3A18-21&version=KJV
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Ahmed Ahmad
Atheists UNITE!!
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Gray Mouser
Former Republican
04:41 PM on 08/18/2010
Gingrich has been wrong and disengenuous in everything he has ever said or done. He so wants to be well known and in power that he is willing to drive controversy for the sake of his advancement.

He has been shown to always be on the wrong side when reality, facts, sanity, and common sense prevail.
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tyger
04:10 PM on 08/18/2010
Who hasn't received the scorn of the repubs. They hate Blacks, Hispanics, Muslims, independent women, the unemployed, dems etc. The list is infinite. Except of course Whites who do what they say and the rich who tell them what to do and how to think.
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KillgoreTrout43
04:48 PM on 08/18/2010
That's pretty much it.
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FogBelter
Illegitimis non carborundum
04:06 PM on 08/18/2010
Sam's appearances are always clear and concise and I think he represents HuffPo well.

I was listening to Stephanie Miller today and heard some pretty scathing criticism directed towards HuffPo, and Sam Stein from Hal Sparks. Hal went on a diatribe about how HuffPo has spent the last 18 mos undermining the Democrats and attacking the President. He also said he thought Arianna has left the site in the control of "interns" who aren't minding the store well. I know Hal Sparks blogged here once or twice, and I heard him once talk on the radio about how HuffPo bloggers not being paid from his perspective was problematic. To each his own on that aspect of blogging in general, but personally I can't put a price on having one's ideas shared with potentially millions of people around the world. I kind of view that as a paycheck in its own right. Hal went on to reference a couple of sites he prefers, and the ones he mentioned were fine and have something to offer but they lack the dynamic of Huffington Post, and frankly have a hard time holding my attention.

Anyway, that's my spiel on Hal Sparks, and let me reiterate, I think Sam Stein represents himself and the site well in his articles and appearances, despite not being an overt cheerleader for the President and the Democratic Party.
cureyourosity
INDEPENDENT--cuz the other two parties suck
03:54 PM on 08/18/2010
Let's pose the following to Imam Rauf as he goes on his Muslim goodwill campaign:

* How come groups and individuals on university campuses in the United States and Canada who claim to be pro-Palestinian remain silent when Jordan revokes the citizenship of thousands of Palestinians?
* Why do Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, and other Arab countries impose severe travel restrictions on Palestinians?
* How come there is a debate in Lebanon about whether to grant Palestinians employment, social security, and medical care?
* How come Palestinians living in Lebanon are banned by law from working in a large number of jobs? In fact, until 2003, Lebanese law prohibited Palestinians from working in 72 professions. Now the list of prohibited jobs has been reduced to 50 professions.
* Notwithstanding, how come Palestinians are still not allowed to work as physicians, journalists, pharmacists, or lawyers in Lebanon?
* How come a wealthy Arab prefers to spend millions of dollars on a private zoo than build a hospital or a university?
* How come it is easier for Palestinians to find a job in Israel and Canada than in any Arab or Islamic country?

Perhaps the imam might want to find out why Arabs have not hesitated to murder Kurds, have obstructed Berbers from preserving their language and culture, and why, in Darfur, Arabs mass-murdered black Africans. All of those victims of Arab aggression and murder have been Muslims -- but in Islamic parlance, Muslims of an inferior level.
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misterzay
Hate is not a congenital disease
04:16 PM on 08/18/2010
Do you think he could also tell us why Christians, Jews, Buddhists,etc.have all committed horrific acts of violence and hatred?
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hodz
04:16 PM on 08/18/2010
All those questions are irrelevant to the issues at hand which are the rights to religious freedom, to own private property, and to construct the place of worship.

Are you responsible for the treatment of Christians and non-Christians at the hands of Christian leaders? Of course, not. This is about the New York City, the Muslims of New York City, our Constitution, and the local laws. Period. What others do or the mob outcry is immaterial.