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Ian Fletcher

Ian Fletcher

Posted: January 19, 2011 05:08 PM

Sometimes the bad guys do us all a big favor, by openly stating what they stand for after spending years denying it. I recently received exactly this sort of favor from an economist, one Don Boudreaux, at the renowned libertarian Cato Institute, a hotbed of free-trade thinking. He wrote:

Why should you or I celebrate less an improvement in the welfare of a South Korean than we celebrate a comparable improvement in the welfare of a South Carolinian? (original here)

That's it. So finally we have it: after years of telling us that libertarian economics -- deregulate this, deregulate that, believe that the free market is always right -- is best for America, they admit that, in the end, they just don't care.

This philosophy has the perverse virtue of perfect logical consistency: if you don't care about what's good for Americans, why not have free trade? I must grant -- and the reader should, too -- that the entire policy of free trade makes perfect sense if one adopts this premise.

The idea of caring equally about the well-being of people all over the world sounds, of course, like a very sweet and humanitarian philosophy. And in a perfect world, maybe it would be. But there are two very big realities that get in the way:

1) We live in a world of ruthless economic rivalry, so if Americans aren't willing to stand up for the economic interests of Americans, we just get rolled by multinational corporations and foreign powers that lack such delicate qualms.

2) Libertarianism, for all its pretensions of universalist humanitarianism, is in fact a notoriously selfish philosophy. Someone once defined a libertarian as "an anarchist with a credit card;" they were onto something.

The South Korea Free Trade Agreement, America's largest free-trade agreement since NAFTA, is back on the front burner. So when the libertarians speak up on this issue, as they will, just remember where their hearts are.

 
 
 
 
 
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02:47 PM on 01/29/2011
How is it selfish of libertarians to view all individuals as equal regardless of their national borders? As Peter Singer argued, saving a drowning child in front of you is no less urgent than saving a child thousands of miles from you. We are all human.

And as another poster said, free trade isn't a zero sum game. Other countries don't have to suffer for the US to benefit. When businesses bring jobs to third world countries they are bringing back cheaper goods to the US, that's called a win-win.
12:04 AM on 01/25/2011
Ian Fletcher presented at a Heritage Foundation hosted event and is an adjunct fellow at a corporate-funded think tank. Judging by those outlines of a resume, one would think he is a proponent of free-market capitalism. To the contrary, the event was organized by Phyllis Schlafly’s Eagle Forum and Feltcher’s book is fantastically titled: “Free Trade Doesn’t Work"

Turns out that the corporate think tank he works for, the US Business & Industry Council, which grandly declares itself “Fighting for American companies, fighting for American jobs†(as if those goals were synonymous in a 21st century, global economy), wants the government to intervene to “protect†their businesses from competition. Fletcher and his backers are not only dredging up mercantalist fallacies as if they had not been definitively disproven long ago, but also the xenophobia, jingoism, and nationalist fervor that characterizes the paranoid, introverted, zero-sum, anti-free trade mindset. Free-market capitalism, by contrast, fosters global cooperation and peace, innovation, cosmopolitanism, and prosperity.

It is dishonest of Fletcher to not mention that obvious that his special interest corporate pleadings cost consumers (who have to pay more for goods and services), taxpayers (who pay higher taxes to support the bureaucracy required to command and control the economy), workers (who lose or don’t have the opportunity to compete for jobs that free-trade would have created), and the overall economy (in the form of lower efficiencies, lower capital investments, and hence lower growth).
03:56 AM on 01/23/2011
LOL, nice piece of satire. You should have taken it further though. Why not have each individual state restrict trade within that state. If Californian's care about Californian's, they must restrict trade with New York! Or better yet, why can cities trade freely with neighboring cities? They'll just get rolled by national corporations if they do.

It takes a strong understanding of economics to write a satire like this. Where did you study?
01:38 PM on 01/22/2011
Let me see if I understand this: Libertarians are "notoriously selfish" because they are Americans who are unwilling "to stand up for the economic interests of Americans" over non-Americans.

Aside from the theory that economic progress is a zero-sum game (Americans can only benefit if non-Americans lose), this is an interesting definition of "selfish."
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Hmmm........Tastes Like Chicken !
12:51 PM on 01/22/2011
Contemporary anti-government “libertarianism†creates a vacuum that the financial sector moves to fill. The problem for society at large is that finance finds its major gains to lie not in raising living standards, but in promoting a free lunch for its customers – while turning corporate profits, debt interest and real estate price gains into a flow of interest to itself, by advancing the credit to finance the purchase of these assets and privileges.
04:19 PM on 01/22/2011
No, the financial sector gains its current strength from a mixture of playing the regulators and receiving free money from the federal reserve when they otherwise would go out of business. The federal reserve encourages the riskiest behaviors amongst bankers and the highest profits. Yeah, but it's somehow the libertarians fault even though libertarians have been calling for the reformation of the financial system for a century now, while statists have been doubling down on bad regulation and funny money.
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07:53 PM on 01/22/2011
Interesting that SoylenGreenIsPeople blames the messes that exists on people who have not had the political power to implement any policy, and suggests, as a solution, the very policies that HAVE been implemented.
12:07 PM on 01/22/2011
By "don't care", what Fletcher really means is that Libertarians are not arrogant enough to stick their noses in a voluntary transaction between two parties. It's a lack of arrogance from Libertarians, and conversely, an overwhelming display of arrogance on your part, that leads your misguided belief that Libertarians "don't give a hoot", and you do.

Your ideological bent blinds you from drawing this otherwise obvious conclusion.

Don was right -- you are unintentionally hilarious. Keep 'em coming!!!
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Ian Fletcher
Economist, Coalition for a Prosperous America
10:20 PM on 01/21/2011
A number of posters to this forum keep missing the point.

It's irrelevant that libertarians stick up for what they /believe/ are the economic interests of Americans.

They've already conceded that, as a matter of fundamental principle, they don't care about the interests of Americans vs. anyone else.

And it's not just a matter of Mr. Boudreaux saying it. If pure freedom is your only value, there's no basis for caring about any one particular community.

You can tag on afterwards, "I care," but it contradicts your own principles.
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08:38 AM on 01/22/2011
I don't blame Don Boudreaux for not giving your article any more answer than calling it an "unintentionally hilarious essay". You simply prove again one of the reasons why I am never convinced by liberal "arguments". They simply prove again that you do not understand the simplest things that free market economists say. I don't know if its intentional dishonesty or ideological blindness, but it is clear and obvious from essays such as this one.
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LunaPark
Don't believe it until it's officially denied
12:20 PM on 01/22/2011
Hear hear!
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montestruc
War is the health of the state--Randolph Bourne
02:01 PM on 01/22/2011
That is blatant mendacity. You consider the narrow relatively short term interest of a few American workers over that of all Americans. You ignore the benefits to American consumers of free trade. You ignore that protectionism on our part encourages others to retaliate in kind. You ignore the truth that where goods do not cross boarders to the benefit of parties on both sides, armies armies are likely to.

Free trade breeds lasting peace, protectionism breeds hate mistrust and war. The fact that free trade also benefits the poor in other nations is incidental, other than it proves that the criticism of Libertarians is absolute hypocracy where in fact it is your side that advocates use of force to enrich the already rich at the expense of the poor of other nations, and that of your fellow Americans.
06:16 PM on 01/21/2011
Am I missing something? Is there a second page to this post? Where is the reasoning used to prove that libertarianism is selfish?
09:14 PM on 01/21/2011
Fletcher does, sort of, "show his work" in getting from A to B, where
A = the quotation from Boudreaux
and
B = libertarians don't care about America

Here is his apparent reasoning: "We live in a world of ruthless economic rivalry, so if Americans aren't willing to stand up for the economic interests of Americans, we just get rolled by multinational corporations and foreign powers that lack such delicate qualms."

But, this reasoning collapses if, as is of course the case, Boudreaux and most other libertarians believe that eliminating protectionist measures (yes, unilaterally) IS "stand[ing] up for the economic interests of Americans."

Because libertarians do stick up for what they perceive to be the economic interests of Americans, Fletcher is incorrect in concluding that libertarians don't care about America.

It would seem that in Fletcher's admittedly frightening world, every patriotic citizen of every country that is not the United States is anti-American. For they all must promote the interests of their own nation and these necessarily damage the interests of every other nation. Perhaps the U.S.A. would be better off if there were no other nations. And, as Boudreaux himself might point out, perhaps each of the 50 states would be best off without the other 49.

Boudreaux's worldview seems to be that any person is better off when their fellow citizens do not tax their purchases based on geographic origin. The interesting thing is that anyone sees this as anti-American.
09:30 PM on 01/21/2011
A brilliant argument on your part! I couldn't agree with you more.

Personally, I'm a libertarian on principle, not pragmatism. Even if there was a negative short-term consequence, the whole world would benefit from the rise of Asian or Latin American economies through free trade.
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muliolis
10:14 AM on 01/22/2011
In other words, Fletcher is unable to see the harmony of self interest between free trading nations.
11:33 PM on 01/25/2011
The economically ill-informed often mistake individuals freely choosing for their self-interest with "greedy" "selfishness". There is a profound difference between the two.
05:15 PM on 01/21/2011
So long as foreigners are poor and dependent, progressives embrace them and demand that American tax money be used for their support. But when foreigners become more prosperous and self-reliant, progressives detest them and demand that American tax money be used to punish them. Progressives are always selling tickets on the One World train, but they themselves only take it as far as Xenophobia station.
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04:25 PM on 01/21/2011
Enemies of free markets again prove they have no clue about what they are arguing against. Can you read ENGLISH? That is the language Don used to write his article.

If you need a translation or interpretation: What Don is saying is that if North Koreans prosper, it is a GOOD THING, just as much as when North Carolinians prosper, it is ALSO A GOOD THING! It is entirely wrong to say that Don does not care. It would be a much more reasonable interpretation to say that he cares about BOTH.

Don is also claiming in that article that BOTH benefit, long term, from free trade. It may be that some people lose their jobs to competition temporarily, but new jobs are made possible by the reduced prices of the goods both countries import from each other.

Whether you agree with this idea or not is irrelevant to this Ian Fletcher person's ad hominem attack on Don and Libertarians. Don certainly believes it, and the passion with which he argues it, and the benefits for all that he argues trade will bring show that he DOES CARE.

If you want to try to argue against free market ideas, first GET A CLUE ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE! And learn to read English!
02:38 PM on 01/21/2011
Really Ian Fletcher? You didn't have the balls to debate us at CafeHayek, so you ran to HuffPost to make spurious and ad hominem attacks on Libertarians? Lol! HA HAHAHAHAHAH! Oh my god, that's priceless!

Libertarians hate America? Has the left finally transmuted itself into what the right used to be? Wow! Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely, I suppose.

I'm sorry we don't share your view that the USA should eb the dominate economic empire of the world. We believe that free trade agreements should be unnecessary, since if you are trading freely, why the hell would you need government agreements? Individuals trade, not countries.

How are libertarians utopianists? Utopianists are planners that want to force their perfect world onto everyone else. Libertarians are in favor of spontaneous order. We also make no promises about what that spontaneous order will look like, so it is hard to call us utopianists in that sense. If you want to know about libertarianism, try asking actual libertarians.
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08:07 PM on 01/21/2011
How are libertaria­ns utopianist­s? Because the only way libertarian principles would work are in a perfect world or an Ayn Rand novel. You know Mr. Fletcher does know a little bit about this topic right?
02:46 AM on 01/22/2011
Libertarians are simply for "limited government." We are not anarchists, so cool you jets. Once again, Ayn Rand gets thrown into the conversation. Ayn Rand, Ayn Rand! I've never even fing read Ayn Rand.

Libertarians come in a wide variety, from people who simply believe in "less government than today" to people who are pretty close to anarchists. Even Hayek wasn't really against the welfare state. You obviously believe that government has a role in "helping the poor," but think of this: the government spends 20,000 dollars per man, woman, child, and senior. I know a alot of families of four that would be much better off if the government simply wrote them a check for their share. That would pretty much eliminate the need for every other government program.
11:35 PM on 01/25/2011
"You know Mr. Fletcher does know a little bit about this topic right?"

Based on what I'm taking from his drivel above, no, apparently he doesn't.
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02:16 PM on 01/21/2011
Libertarians are just Republicans with a bad case of cognitive dissonance. They think we don't need laws because everyone knows what the right thing is. They refuse to deal with the fact that a lot of people will do what is wrong unless they are restrained.
09:48 AM on 01/22/2011
No. Libertarians think we don't need many laws because failing to follow these laws doesn't directly harm any involuntary actor.
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muliolis
10:18 AM on 01/22/2011
Obvious strawman argument. Libertarians argue for LIMITED GOVERNMENT. That means a minimum of laws necessary to protect individual rights. As I keep saying, GET A CLUE about what Libertarians actually are calling for. They argue in favor of laws, in fact, of rule of law. Just not ones that violate individual rights rather than protecting them.

GET A CLUE!
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LunaPark
Don't believe it until it's officially denied
02:20 AM on 01/21/2011
"There is nothing free trade about NAFTA. It't corporate managed trade. What is free about 14,000 pages of NAFTA regulations?"

Ralph Nader
06:30 PM on 01/24/2011
In a perfect world, NAFTA would be one page, or even one sentence: "There shall be no import tariffs levied against any products or services exchanged among the United States, Canada, and Mexico." However, while NAFTA was by no means perfect (we don't live in a perfect world, obviously) it still served to vastly reduce government-imposed barriers to voluntary exchange, thus giving consumers a freer, more open, more competitive marketplace.
01:04 AM on 01/21/2011
Libertarian antagonists are always frustrated by its "perverse virtue of perfect logical consistency." They assign evil motives such as anti-Americanism, indifference to human suffering or just dismiss it as simple minded to counter free trade arguments. It is much easier to attack Libertarians as people rather than their logic.
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10:28 AM on 01/21/2011
Its just too bad their logic fails the only true test as well: reality.
02:41 PM on 01/21/2011
Oh snap, girlfriend!
10:35 AM on 01/21/2011
There is no political philosophy that contains "perfect logical consistency". NONE.

And for the record, you can make an argument (as libertarians often do) that supports indifference to human suffering that's based on logic. Many libertarians do it all the time...the whole 'government taxes is theft' argument that suggests it's evil to "take" money and "redistribute" it (which is what ALL taxes do, even the taxes you like...and by like, I mean provide direct benefit to YOU and no one else) to...*gasp*...PEOPLE IN NEED! How dare they, when we all know that if we just allowed people to help on their own, those in need would be better off.
02:40 PM on 01/21/2011
Well, Moe, I'll be by your house at 3 pm to help myself to whatever I believe will help those in need. I'll also be needing your personal bank account information. Thank you for your cooperation, sir.
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10:23 PM on 01/20/2011
Isn't the voluntary transfer of wealth to impoverished people all over the world a worthy cause?

If not, why is the involuntary transfer of wealth via taxes so loudly lauded by the Left?
10:29 AM on 01/21/2011
Because its not your money, its the govt money.
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muliolis
04:28 PM on 01/21/2011
I hope to the God I don't believe in you are joking. The government gets its money from ME, and you, and Don, and Fletcher. Its called TAXES. Ever hear of them?