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Manufacturing in Decline; Establishment in Denial

Posted: 02/ 1/11 08:23 AM ET

The National Association of Manufacturers is trying to pull another fast one.

Consider this presentation in favor of the proposed Korea-U.S. Free Trade Agreement.

Let's take it apart, shall we?

They point out that most of America's job losses are not to nations we have free-trade agreements with. True, but this is just a way of saying we're losing jobs to China, as we don't have an FTA with them. Most of our dozen-or-so FTAs are with tiny countries like Jordan, which has an economy the size of metro Minneapolis.

They point out that the U.S. is still the world's largest manufacturing nation. But this is simply irrelevant and I'm surprised they even put that in. This statistic proves nothing about improvement or decline, about manufacturing employment levels, manufacturing wages, or whether our being biggest is simply the result of being the developed nation with the largest population. What's much more shocking, looking at their chart on p. 5, is that with more than double the population of Japan, we're only about a third bigger than they are in manufacturing, according to that chart.

This presentation is utterly disingenuous on page 12, when it asserts that "these are the trade problems that need to be addressed" and refers to our non-FTA deficit in manufactures (which is mostly China) and our deficit in oil. Why? Because NAM has consistently opposed all the measures that would do anything to solve either. They're just trying to distract people here.

The statistics on page 13 about the number of small and medium-sized companies exporting are totally irrelevant, and again I'm surprised they put them in. The raw number of companies exporting tells us nothing about whether a) these companies have gained more in exports than they've lost to imports in the domestic market, or b) whether half these companies have been driven out of business by imports.

The claim on page 14 that the U.S. suffers a "shortage of skilled workers" is absurd. How many unemployed are there now with degrees in engineering, computers, etc? Plus the word "shortage" is simply not a valid analytical term for a market economy. Any company can always find as many workers as they're willing to pay for, period. Is there a "shortage" of diamonds because I can't buy one for $9.99? "Shortage" is a euphemism for "I want to pay less than what the market price is." These guys just want cheaper labor, that's it.

Now let's delve into a bit of technical detail to expose the sophistry of their chart on page 4:

1) That chart of U.S. manufacturing production is not a chart of manufacturing jobs. So they're basically saying that any decline in manufacturing jobs is due to an increase in manufacturing productivity, which causes fewer workers to be needed per unit of output. But if you look at a chart of manufacturing jobs, there's some damage 1979-2000, but things just fall off a cliff after 2000. There is no way this can be attributed to a sudden surge of productivity, as there simply aren't any manufacturing innovations that suddenly came online in 2000 that weren't available before. We've had productivity growth in manufacturing for 200 years without seeing a sudden drop like that. But we did have China join the WTO and obtain MFN status in 2001 -- which made things much more secure for corporations seeking to move production there.

2) Everything they say is undone by the fine print at the bottom of the slide, anyway. It reads, "In current dollar terms (not adjusted for inflation), manufacturing's share has fallen from 16% in 1990 to 12% -- because inflation is much higher In the services economy than in manufacturing." They're being very slippery here with the term "inflation," because they're not adjusting for inflation in the usual sense of adjusting prices of past years for economy-wide inflation. They're adjusting for the inflation differential between manufacturing and services. And this is, quite arguably, a differential that ought not to be adjusted away at all, because it reflects the fact that there are more real productivity gains over time in manufacturing laptops than there are in providing haircuts, for obvious reasons.

The use of bad arguments to defend a position is a fairly strong telltale that the position cannot be defended with good arguments. This seems to be the case with the Korea FTA. NAM must think the public is fairly dumb to fall for this stuff.

 
 
 

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TheTightwireGuy
Attempting to balance reason and passion
06:12 AM on 02/04/2011
I should add that I am NOT calling for states to take away the rights of "corporate" owners. States could continue to allow corporations in their current form to exist, but they could sanction by law a type of for-profit entity that complements the existing types that are currently available for capital owners to choose from to operate a business. Based on the German model of a corporation, this new entity might be called a 'stakeholdership'.

So, how do states encourage owners of for-profit ventures to reorganize as 'stakeholderships'? Easy. Give them tax breaks! Such as with lower taxes on income, property, and/or unemployment insurance. And if that is not enough, require that companies that do business with the state (e.g. contracts for services, etc.) or receive state assistance in any manner, adopt such legal structures.

Because if fostering the existence of such legal entities contributes to a more stable and healthy economic base for a state, its laws and regulations should reward owners of capital that choose to adopt the restrictions inherent in such a legal entity.

And if capital owners don't want to organize their for-profit ventures in this manner, they should be free to choose to operate as traditional corporations. But the overall cost of this kind of legal entity imposes on the greater good of society should be borne by those who freely choose to operate using them.

And that, folks, might be a way to improve the 'American way'.
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TheTightwireGuy
Attempting to balance reason and passion
05:12 AM on 02/04/2011
How many of you out there believe in the notion of 'best practices'? If you've been involved in business management, you'll probably know what I mean. If not, you can look it up on Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_practice

Why do I bring this up? Perhaps it is time to reevaluate whether our American way of legally managing the 'corporation' should change if we really want to develop 'best practices' that support our manufacturing sector best over the long run in our global economy.

And who, meaning what legal jurisdiction, has such 'best practices'? How about the countries that are kicking our butts in manufacturing in our modern global economy. Such as Germany:

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/hows_europe_doing/archives/individual/2010_11/026625.php

Mind you, I'm a big fan of the notion that "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." But I think the evidence of our economic troubles in the face of a globalized world markets suggests that we need to fix something in our system of government. And perhaps some pioneering American states--because those are the legal jurisdictions in our system of government where the rights of corporations are defined--might want to consider adopting some of the ways a European one does so to provide a legal foundation that seems to support a strong manufacturing sector.

I'm just sayin'.
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TheTightwireGuy
Attempting to balance reason and passion
04:38 AM on 02/04/2011
"These guys just want cheaper labor, that's it."

I agree. Then let's make it cheaper to hire in this country (up to the level of middle class jobs). How so? Check out this blog entry and the comments at NoLabels.org:

http://nolabels.org/blog/bipartisan-corporate-tax-extremism-killing-job-growth/
05:50 PM on 02/03/2011
When you continue to outsource manfacturing jobs, your lose both the skills and technology of the workers that get displaced and wind up falling behind modern technologies to manufacture. In other words, outsourcing skilled manufacturing jobs is destroying the future opportunities of USA workers to make livable wages instead of low paid service sector jobs.
Manufacturing has decreased from being 35 percent of the GDP to 8 percent . American workers will never get skilled if their are no jobs in manufacturing to learn the necessary skills and technology. Wake up Congress, we need more manufacturing employment opportunities in the USA if we are ever going to catch up to the outsouring mess you allowed to happen because you believed failed economic theories that the USA can flourish in a service economy.
The real statistics is that 30 million former manufacturing workers are now working in jobs of which 50 percent no longer qualifiy to pay federal income taxes and millions more wages are so low they get money back in the form of earned income credits instead of paying taxes. No wonder we have a 14 going on 15 trillion federd deficit.
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LeftCoastEng
Obsessed with failed trade
07:50 PM on 02/01/2011
Thanks for continuing to supply well reasoned arguments and researched information so that we can demand action by our politicians on this vital issue.
08:03 PM on 02/01/2011
What vital issue would that be? Having politicians reward their corporate friends (and campaign contributors) with protection from competition and compelling consumers to pay more for goods and services?
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LeftCoastEng
Obsessed with failed trade
11:18 PM on 02/01/2011
You mean as opposed to having politicians reward their corporate friends by continuing to allow outsourcing without creating jobs for Americans? What vital issue? It's no big deal really just the survival of the middle class and the American dream. It's probably not worth paying a little more for some stuff we buy.
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muliolis
09:11 PM on 02/01/2011
What well reasoned arguments and researched information? Sounds more like spin, to me. We are producing more goods while using fewer workers to do it, leaving more people to get other things done, as well. Also, if we need fewer man hours to get the things we need made, maybe we can afford to start reducing the work week more, maybe down to 30 hours. If people choose, they can spend more time with their families or at leisure. Wouldn't this be a good thing?
07:47 PM on 02/01/2011
Manufacturing output continues to increase, and in real 2005 dollars is nearly double what it was 30 years ago. If that's "decline", then I'd be interested to see what "ascent" is. The fact that we engage fewer workers to create more output would seem to be a positive accomplishment, not a negative -- to argue otherwise would be to suggest that productivity is a negative thing. We certainly wouldn't want to return to the days when we required 10% of the population working in agriculture to produce our food, why would we want to return to the days when we required more laborers in manufacturing to produce fewer goods?
06:40 PM on 02/03/2011
the USA could compete with low labor if US corporations that invest in building new plants with modern high production machinery in foreign countries like China. would invest in the USA. Our tax policies on corporations allows them to deduct costs from USA taxes as liabilities when they invest and propogate outsourcing of USA jobs. In other words, US taxpayers are subsidizing investment in foreign countries. What the USA should be doing is what China does, If you want to sell your product in China, you have to manufacture the product in China ant that requires you to invest dollars in China and form a partnership which only allows you to own 49 percent of the plant. We are so dumb to allow this to continue.
07:31 PM on 02/03/2011
Tell me something, can you buy the exact amount of goods today for the same amount money you made 30 years ago? I would estimate that you would have to "double " the amount, in other words the value of your dollar has "declined" which is opposite of "positive" and means it is a "negative" accomplishment as far as manufacturing increased in the USA is concerned.
05:12 PM on 02/01/2011
US manufacturing is in decline. In other news, American manufacturing is expanding at its fastest rate in seven years: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/01/ism-report-american-manuf_n_816907.html
06:44 PM on 02/03/2011
What the report does not state is that manufacturing increases are the result of USA workers assembling more componets manufactured and imported into the USA. The report should break down the increase in manufacturing by seperating the percentage of imported components that contributed to the total increase.
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Lock Piatt
04:56 PM on 02/01/2011
The Environmental movement and the Unions became over aggressive in their desires and over regulated and over charged the manufacturers to fix perceived past harms which were mostly the result of the Federal Government and WWII factory ramp up to make equipment and chemicals to fight the war and pollution was left at the end of the war.

The Government then placed all the blame on industry - then they made is so expensive to continue to operate in the USA that they just moved their factories out of America. It was the EPA and the Unions that ended the blue collar skilled worker and they were the heart of the much praised American miracle [the largest middle class in the history of man]. It is gone now and who wants to stand up and admit - They were wrong and overreached?
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
05:09 PM on 02/01/2011
I have to agree that it is "the EPA and the Unions that ended the blue collar skilled worker". And now the "American Dream" has been destroyed!

The cost of electrical energy generated in the USA in compliance with US EPA regulations is about ten times the cost of the same amounty (kilowatt) of electrical energy in most Asian countries, and this makes the USA even less competetive in the Market place that is competing for locating new manufacturing jobs that need econmical electricity into the USA, and/or keeping existing US jobs in the USA. The EPA is the main cause of the high electrical costs in the USA.

Existing environmental laws, and the anticipated costs of future environmental legislation that will be "piled onto" our remaining US located industries (that might elect to stay in the USA) are another factor causing the remainder of our US industries and US jobs to relocate to overseas locations. Foreign environmental manufacturing costs are generally known.

I live in Houston and we are afraid that President Obama's proposed "Cap and Trade" will be passed by the US congress, and then our remaining petrochemical industries will relocate to foreign countries, and then they will fire most all of their thousands of Houston employees as they close down their refinery businesses.
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LeftCoastEng
Obsessed with failed trade
07:46 PM on 02/01/2011
I agree with you most of the time, but this comment is way off base. If you don't want clean air and water than sure electricity would be cheaper because power companies wouldn't have to spend capital and expenses to scrub their stacks. I doubt it's a big driver in the cost of electricity - more likely the cost of natural gas or coal is the biggest driver. You probably have a better handle on this than I do.

I don't want to see free trade be a race to the least environmental laws - because that wouldn't be good for anyone in the long term. If the price of carbon was extended to imported fuel or even the carbon foot print of the imported materials it would not cause more companies to move jobs out because everyone would see the same price for carbon. A market based solution that McCain, Pallin, Huckabee and most of the Repubs used to support.
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Joseph Joyal
retired bum
04:51 PM on 02/01/2011
The unions has spoke against this (not the UAW) and Obama brought this with him from korea.
It only show how little the people in Washington understand our economic situation.
Obama spoke against NAFTA but is doing nothing to stop it and now is bring another freetrade agrement.
They (DC) look at car sales and thinks things are going along just find but they are ignorant or don't care that US auto production is droping very fast and the Mexican auto production is increasing to off set the lack of US production.
GM is spending a 1/2 billion dollars in Mexico on a new plant and VW is spending $600,000,000 on a new plant to build cars for the US market.
After the Korean trade agreement is pasted US auto production will take another hit. and the economy will keep where it is. no where.
US manufacturing posted biggest gain in seven years according to HP but in the passed seven years manufacturing has been dropping so anything is a gain.
The US might look like Egypt in a few years if DC continues to ignore the people in this country.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
05:13 PM on 02/01/2011
I would expect that the US Unions would object to SKFTA, but I read the paper every day, and have not seen any union boss objecting to SKFTA.

I remember a guy named Ross Perot who looked like Alfred E Newman from the Mad Magazine comic books and talked through his nose as the only person that objected to NAFTA. He ran as a third party candidate against President Bush 41 and President Bill Clinton,

I think that it was 1991 and he got almost as many votes as either of the major party candidates. He had the right message but he was the wrong messenger. He was not attractive, and I sadly believe that a lot of the American people vote based upon looks more than intelligence or policy.

He had a lot of graphs and charts to indicate his points.

I remember him saying that "NAFTA will suck the remaining jobs out of the USA". He might have been the last chance to preserve US jobs, US industry and the US economy.

I remember presidential candidate McCain stating something to the effect that he was not interested in economics during the first part of the 2008 presidential campaign shortly after he was nominated, so I voted for President Obama, I hold great respected Senator John McCain, but he was no choice for the economy of this country at that time.
07:52 PM on 02/01/2011
I'm curious why you think NAFTA has been a net negative concerning US jobs, millions of jobs were created in the 1990s and 2000s. I'm also curious why you think that having the government forcing us to pay more for goods and services would be better for economic prosperity.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
04:47 PM on 02/01/2011
They point out that the U.S. is still the world's largest manufacturing nation, but the US manufacturing businesses are mostly only assembling foreign made assemblies, foreign made parts, and using foreign made materials with the minimum US labor where a large portion of each product is imported and then the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) counts 100% of this product cost as a part of the GDP when only a small part fo this is actually made in the USA.

If US labor costs are at least four to twenty times the Asian labor costs, Ii US electrical energy geberated in accordance with EPA regulations costs are at least ten times the Asian electrical energy costs, if US environmental compliance costs are at many times greater than the Asian environmental compliance costs, and if other US manufacturing costs that are more expensive that the Asian manufacturing costs, how can the US manufactruing be competitive with Asian manufactruing production costs.

If US government borrowing causes devaluation of the US dollar to 10% of today's buying value, this might cause Businesses to relocate jobs back to the USA, but a $3 loaf of bread would then cost $30.

The main result of devaluing the US dollar will to reduce the buying power of US wages and salaries!

Businesses have invested to construct plants in foreign nations, and they will need a lot of financial incentives to economically justify/cause businesses to return to the USA.
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Joseph Joyal
retired bum
05:50 PM on 02/01/2011
The point of the US being the largest manufacturing country is only in US dollars, If the yuan was increaeds to the value the US whats it at then China would be number 1.
Like you said we assemble with imported parts and what we do make is on imported machines.
The labor costs are what people like to blame but the truth of the mater our electric is to high compared to China, Mexico and India where the government regulates it. Also US product liability insurance is out of control. Many of the imported components are made by companies that do not carry insurance because you can not sue them. And with the claims of the devalued dollar have and impact the US should be a big exported but the dollar is stronger than the tales.
The bset incentive to keep manufacturing in the US is no FREE Trade. with out Free trade Mexico is not so good nor Korea so we need to keep even trade.
And US executives should not be allowed to force their companies in to debt to pay their bonuses, like GM did with Wagner.
And remember what H Ross said "that sucking sound is your jobs"
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
06:37 PM on 02/01/2011
Ross Perot was the last chance to have preserved US jobs for the average working man, he was right.

The freshly printed paper US Treasury Bonds and other paper US government issued currencies that the US government sells to people in industrialized nations in order to get some US dollars that US citizens foreigners to make our consumer items back from these foreigners to pay for US government expenses have no value, except that they are redeemable for title to privately owned businesses, factories, casinos, hotels, farms, land, ports, breweries, refineries, forests, ports, breweries, refineries, and other privately owned assets located in the USA that were created by previous productive US generations instead of Gold from Ft. Knox that essentially no longer exists.

In 1972 the US government declared that the freshly printed paper US dollars and the freshly printed paper US Treasury Bonds that the government prints and sells to pay for government payrolls and other expenses, and etc. are now backed by the "full faith and credit of the USA" (aka Junk Bonds) instead of gold.

The USA is running out of assets that foreigners want to buy with their US dollars that we paid them to make things that we consumed while US citizens did not work!
07:56 PM on 02/01/2011
Businesses invest far more in the US than they do in other countries. Labor costs tend to be commiserate with productivity. You mention how products assembled here count 100% with our GDP, but you need to note that products assembled in, say, China with parts from all over count 100% on their GDP, and 100% against our so-called "trade deficit". Take an iPod for example: less than 1% of the value of an iPod is actually added in China, where it is assembled. The two biggest-value items are the hard drive (made in Japan) and the software/operating system (developed in the US). Far more of the purchase price of an iPod benefits American workers than Chinese.

We are producing more and more actual output, we just take fewer workers to do it thanks to technology and innovation. That's a good thing, not a bad thing.
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sposton
right to tell what they don't want to hear
04:42 PM on 02/01/2011
Our government does not care about America in a way we accustomed to think. Their America is the American empire and its associated corporations along with the parasitic financial sector.

We care about manufacturing because we know that it is essential for a country to produce most of products and services it consumes. All they care is that American corporations' manufacturing is not shrinking. Where it is produced it makes no difference to them as long as the profit are growing.

I can understand that a corporation could outgrow its original market but what I don't understand what we should tolerate their total disregard for American people. If they wish to act like this, why do we allow them to rule over us? I say screw them - if they wish to leave show them the door, but what we cannot allow is their subversion of our democracy. We cannot allow them to craft our national policies and expect we will get different results from what we had been getting.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
05:16 PM on 02/01/2011
Our rulers do not realize that real wealth (and the associated jobs to create wealth for others) is only created and/or acquired MAINLY when the members of a family (or a nation, city-state, island, tribe, etc.) plant, grow and/or harvest something of commercial value from the earth; extract something of commercial value from the earth; provide professional services (medical, legal, dental, engineering, architecture, accounting, land, surveying technology, etc.); collect payment for patent and copyright uses; manufactures or constructs something of commercial value that is consumable or permanently useful for rental income; and then trades, sells, leases or rents these items and/or services to parties outside of their family, in return for a net transfer of gold, currency or commodities from other parties outside of their family into their own family.

The members of that family can then reflect their real wealth and financial security with the net positive accumulation of grain, gold, cattle, jewels, land, buildings, hotels, casinos, factories, commodities and/or other marketable products for reserve use in times of emergency and/or also to raise the standard of living for the members of that family.

This accumulated wealth is then available to be taxed in order to create funds to build sclools, streets, water and sewer systems, repay sovereign national debts, spend for pork barrel projects, green projects, infrastructure projectswars, streets, bridges, highways, welfare, unemployment, school teachers, policemen, fire fighters, and other government provided bureaucratic services.
08:02 PM on 02/01/2011
Why would it be essential for a country to produce most of what it consumes? If that concept were true, then why stop at the border of a nation? Why not have a state produce most of what it consumes? Or a city? Or a family? If self-sufficiency were the goal, then the feudal system in place in the Middle Ages should have produced enormous prosperity.

Division of labor, specialization, and trade are the backbone of producing economic prosperity.
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sposton
right to tell what they don't want to hear
08:41 PM on 02/01/2011
Your thinking certainly did not make this country great. It is true that small economies are not able to be self-sufficient but we are not a small country. We were the greatest economy in the world and are able to produce most of what we consume. The only reason we can get away with what you think is great is because our dollar is the world reserve currency. Because of it we can get away with just printing dollars in exchange for products from abroad. How long is that going to last and what follows that?

There is not one country in this world that can show that it created a growing economy without protectionism. Industries develop when they are protected from foreign competition. Only when they outgrow their markets do they start believing in the free trade nonsense and from thereon they start declining.

We should not compare our economy to the one of Austria or some other small country from which some influential economists drew their lessons and into which ignorantly bought into. To learn how national economies grow you must learn from Friedrich List and not Adam Smith. And List drew his lessons from early American development. We forgot it all.

At the root of free trade dogma is David Ricardo's concept of comparative advantage. The only problem is that Ricardo would have never considered a world in which capital and productive capacity moves from one country to another with such ease as it does today.
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sposton
right to tell what they don't want to hear
08:50 PM on 02/01/2011
"Why not have a state produce most of what it consumes? Or a city? Or a family?"

Because our economy is defined with our national boundaries unified by a common currency. If you are a buggy maker in Pennsylvania and your job is lost due to manufacturing of cars, you always have a chance to go to Michigan and join auto industry. That is in difference when your job is lost to offshoring to China or India. You couldn't possibly go there in search for your own job or some other job opportunity. This is why economies are national in character despite the fact that corporations would like you to believe otherwise. Global economy is a meaningless abstraction to most people on this earth. The fact that global economy is growing does not necessarily mean you will benefit, but if your national economy is growing there is a very good chance you will benefit.
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muliolis
04:28 PM on 02/01/2011
Sure, the fact that we are still the world's largest manufacturing nation doesn't say anything about improvement or decline. What says that American manufacturing is improving is the actual statistics over time. We produced 10% more manufactured goods in America in 2009 than in 2000. That is improvement.

Look at any graph of American manufacturing output, and you will see a steady upward slope, interrupted only by recessions.

That we do this with fewer workers in the manufacturing sector is a GOOD thing. Fewer people working in dirty, dangerous, mind-numbing, physically exhausting jobs, and instead working in well air conditioned offices and stores is a GOOD thing, if the few left working in factories are producing enough of the goods for everyone else.

Its like the improvement in agriculture. Hardly anyone works on a farm anymore, but those left doing that work have it easier, and are feeding us all better and better with much less work, and less land area devoted to farming. This is a GOOD THING.
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AlanBannacheck
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03:53 PM on 02/01/2011
It looks like this NAM character wants us to "pretend and extend" as usual.
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02:39 PM on 02/01/2011
Just ask any high-tech American citizen who lost his job to a person who's here on an H1-B Visa, working seven days a week and living fourteen to an apartment, for what amounts to considerably less than minimum wage.

Nevertheless, the root problem here is that there are folks who think that, somehow, America is insanely special ... that, even though it is a massive nation "from sea to shining sea," it does not have to produce for itself because "the almighty American Dollar is good everywhere and always will be," and because "everything else in the entire world's economy is second-fiddle to U.S."

Clue ya.

It's not.

And the faster the United States of America gets over its "prodigal son trip" and starts once again to be the powerhouse nation that it WAS for most of its young life, the better off its 311 million citizens will be ... and the better off its genuine trading-partners also will be, as they once again beat a path to the USA's door.

You don't get that by lying to everyone about everything. You don't get that by proposing purely-exploitative "trade relationships" and calling them "free." Believe it or not, every one of the people you are talking to, are sentient human beings who actually don't miss much.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
04:33 PM on 02/01/2011
If US government borrowing (actually printing and selling newly issued freshly printed paper US Treasury Bonds) to pay federal government expenses that are in excess of the tax collections continues at the present rate, then the US dollar purchasing value will diminishes to a tiny percentage of today's purchasing value related to other (industrialized nation's) currencies, and then the Chinese Yuan (or Renminbi) might be the "last man standing" with any value for use in international business transactions. I forgot about the Indian Rupee, the Pakistani Rupee, or the Brazilian Real which will also have purchasing power after the US dollar purchasing power is destroyed with the US government deficit spending.

A steady stream of US dollars and title to US located assets are flowing from US consumers to US retail businesses and then to foreign manufacturers in the industrialized foreign nations has been created by our US FREE TRADE Legislation!
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D Moon
04:34 PM on 02/01/2011
Marked as fav. Heck of a comment sir/ma'am
Linda from Deerfield
Paying attention
01:54 PM on 02/01/2011
What a scathing and well done analysis. What I don't understand, however, is why the NAM finds it in its best interests to act like what the U.S. Chamber of Commerce has become. In my view, both organizations' stances are so unpatriotic as to border on treason.

By the way, I've been quietly blaming Clinton all of these years for being the wuz who sold us out to China -- thanks for pointing out that it took 2000/2001 WTO actions to clinch the deal. There may have been something to be said initially about trade with communists, but the level of pain endured to enable them to flourish and acquire virtually all of the skill and technology and decent jobs that we have to offer has become one of my life's greatest mysteries.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
04:37 PM on 02/01/2011
Bill Clinton signed NAFTA into law, and he did not have to do that!

Will President Obama's proposed South Korea Free Trade Agreement (SKFTA) treaty further cause the relocation of more existing US jobs to South Korea? I guess another few more million unemployed US citizens will not matter to President Obama!

Where were the Union Labor Leaders that should have objected to NAFTA? They say that they objected, but I do not remember them objecting, so maybe this is why Bill Clinton enacted NAFTA.

Why don't the US Labor Unions object to President Obama's SKFTA?
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dtairtime
It is what it is
06:20 PM on 02/01/2011
The labor unions of the past are long gone. Now they only see the money they can create by trying to get as many members as possible.

We see unions supporting things they never would have in the past and we see them supporting things that drive wages down but membership numbers and dues up. They are in it for the money.

I've been in three major unions over the last 30+ years and I'm on negotiating committees and have been shop steward for a lot of that time. I just recently got a notice on my first pension that they are reducing the amount everyone gets who retires early by about half. I was promised that amount since I left them over 15 years ago and planned on getting it. In the meantime the union board trustees who oversee the investment firm are living large.

We need strict controls over abuses by union heads and also mandate an easy method for membership to take control away from leadership that abuses their power. Until we do this, the union leadership is too often in bed with the businesses and forget who they represent.
10:38 PM on 02/01/2011
Linda, we have the best political decisions that money can buy. Unlike many who have responded to this great blog post, I am not critical of globalization. I'm critical of unregulated globalization.