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Ian Squires

Ian Squires

Posted: May 10, 2010 05:16 PM

Pinheads or Patriots?

What's Your Reaction:

"I think it's absolutely ridiculous," said Julie Fagerstrom, mother of one of the four boys sent home from Live Oak High School on May 5. "All they were doing was displaying their patriotic nature."

This telling, knee-jerk reaction, endorsing louder, like-minded Tea Party ignorance, is what should stand out most in light of the American flag/Cinco de Mayo-political firestorm out of Morgan Hill, California.

Because May 5 was the Cinco de Mayo holiday celebrating Mexican culture, four northern California teenagers decided to wear t-shirts prominently displaying the American flag. That strikes me as a classless move that's just plain rude, but it's a free country, and I suppose the boys figured nobody could find trouble for wearing anything red, white and blue in post-9/11 America, anyway.

But between classes that day, Live Oak Assistant Principal Miguel Rodriguez told the boys it was being disruptive and to either turn their t-shirts inside out or go home; they would be suspended from school if they returned to class as they were. Not surprisingly, the teens opted to take the rest of the day off. According to an article republished to the Tea Party website, local Tea Party organizer Kelly Stone defended the boys, saying, "We are not ashamed to wear this flag on any day. And people blessed to live in this country should not be ashamed to display the American flag or to see the American flag."

Nobody asked them to be ashamed for wearing the flag. But they should be ashamed after admitting they consciously wore American flag shirts because it was Cinco de Mayo. "We knew it was Cinco de Mayo," one of the boys said, "But we just came to show our flag." In hindsight, Live Oak should have made sure to allow those students' immature taunts.

The school's smart move would have been to call the boys into the principal's office, explain to them why they were being jackasses, maybe make a disingenuous detention threat should they refuse to show a little decency, and send them back to class. How could they not anticipate this was precisely the kind of all-American story that excites the Rush Limbaughs of the world? Surely school administrators could foresee how easy it has been to spin this as patriotic students punished for loving their country.

This is contemporary America. Wrapping yourself in an American flag gives you carte blanche to do just about anything, from waging trillion-dollar wars to casually disregarding other cultures. But there is nothing patriotic about wearing the American flag for the intentional purpose of disrespecting others. Unfortunately, by making a big deal out of little more than a lame high school taunt, Live Oak opened the door for the lame eruption of millions of people who, sadly, genuinely believe this a simple case of four all-American teens being punished for their patriotism.

 
 
 
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04:32 PM on 05/21/2010
so will the hispanic/latino students be dismissed from school if they wear mexican flag shirts on July 4th? what if some italian students wear american flag shirts on st. patrick's day.

probably not and they shouldn't be. we are a multi-cultural nation and we should celebrate the cultures of each and every ethnic group in the nation, but not above our national identity.
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02:24 AM on 05/15/2010
I completely agree with this article/blog. In my opinion, it's not even a matter of if it was Cinco De Mayo or not. The school told ALL of the students not to wear ANY flags on that day and the 4-5 boys did it anyways which shows a complete lack of respect for not only the Hispanic population of their school but for their educators and authority figures as well. During my years of education I attended both a private and public school and both schools had some form of a dress code. There were times where I or my friends were told to turn our shirts inside out, change or go home. This isn't some new disciplinary action that the vice principal came up with off the top of his head. Also, the fact that people are calling for the vice principal to be fired because of this is unbelievable. With all the financial cutbacks and lay offs in schools in California *which were happening even before the recession* to ask to have a vice principal fired because your kids broke the rules is just completely and utterly messed up. What happened to the days when kids were disciplined for being in the wrong? Everyone's wondering why kids are being bullied, acting out and becoming more violent /sexual these days? Because parent's are allowing them to get away with it.
12:48 PM on 05/13/2010
Why is there no mention that many if the students that wore the flags were of Hispanic origin? Knee jerk reporting at its best!
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03:37 PM on 05/12/2010
I'm surprised at the lack of outrage over this issue at Hpost. Banning the wearing of the American flag, no matter what the occasion, is a clear violation of the student's right to political free speech. It is the same as a principle asking a student to remove a gay pride t-shirt or an anti-war shirt.
The excuse that it may be disruptive doesn't fly; students have a constitutional right to symbolic speech. The American flag has been a political symbol ever since the US constitution was written and wearing it is a protected right. Those who are offended by our country's flag maybe should relocate to a place where that symbol is less prevalent (any other country).
11:19 PM on 05/11/2010
I think the biggest issue I have is with teachers who express their political views during school with students. I wanna know more about this story. Were the intentions of the students crass? Where they really the only ones wearing the American Flag that day? What else were they doing that could have been offensive? I do think that because it was the American Flag on the shirt, that people are really quick to have an opinion. Craziness...
08:02 PM on 05/11/2010
Have you ever been to a St. Patricks Day Parade. Even though most of these people are celebrating the Irish heritage I see plenty of American Flags mixed with Irish Flags
08:00 PM on 05/11/2010
Have you ever been to a St. Patricks Day Parade. Even though most of these people are celebrating the Irish heritage I see plenty of American Flags mixed with American Flags.
12:24 PM on 05/11/2010
With all due respect to Mr. Squires, there are a number of pinheads that define this incident, and he is one of them. Of course he has quite a bit company; the assistant principal that than handled the whole in incident in such a moronic manner, Roger Ebert, and the classmates of these kids. It really does not matter if these kids were being provocative, as the folks being provoked had no right to be upset at seeing the American flag in the United States. Because ladies and gentlemen, that is what really comes down to; these boys, two whom are apparently Mexican Americans, were gigged for wearing the American flag in California. Now, before anyone has silly ideas let me be clear, I am not conservative, I am not a member of the Tea Party, and English is not my native language.
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glockman
07:51 AM on 05/11/2010
I was unaware that one had to be a teabagger to respect the flag of the United States.

My god, my god, how have we all been so misinformed all these years?
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01:38 AM on 05/11/2010
I'm not following Squires' logic on this one. Sure, the boys decided to wear the American Flag t-shirts on Cinco de Mayo simply because it was Cinco de Mayo. The intention was crass, but the result is that they were wearing the flag of our country. I'm assuming a lot of the Mexicans celebrating Cinco de Mayo were in fact Americans as well. Other than going against the traditional etiquette (that a lot of flag-wearing lovers forget) to not wear the flag as a garment, there's nothing wrong with it.

Listen, before someone jumps on me and tells me that I'm a flag-waving imperialist bigot, let me tell you that I actually like the Mexican flag better than the American flag because it has my favorite color green in it. Why Betsy Ross missed that, I don't know.

"Wrapping yourself in an American flag gives you carte blanche to do just about anything, from waging trillion-dollar wars to casually disregarding other cultures." No it doesn't. And why do peace-loving liberals cede the flag to the the war-mongering types? You can wave the flag as proudly even if you're not planning on bombing Lichtenstein next Tuesday.

For that matter, Cinco de Mayo is a celebration of the Mexican Army's defeat over France. Shouldn't the Franco-Americans be a little ticked about Cinco de Mayo?

Come on, Jean Claude & Amelie, surely you have an opinion?
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Ian Squires
01:51 PM on 05/11/2010
Did anybody actually read what I wrote, or did you all just share in that same knee-jerk reaction, that I was somehow condoning the bashing of America?
>The intention was crass
I agree. That was all I was saying.
Everybody is angrily defending the kids' right to be patriotic, but nobody, certainly not me, has ever said that right should be taken away. The kids exercised their 1st Amendment right to act like insensitive brats, and then the administration overreacted. That overreaction doesn't change the mild reality that the kids were being brats. That's the entire story. All the rest of the hyper-reactions are just that: hype.
03:02 PM on 05/11/2010
Speaking for myself, yes I did. I really do not care that those kids behaved like insensitive brats. Their opponents have no right to oppose the wearing of the American flag, even if it was done to get under their skin. There is never any reason to oppose the display of the flag, as long as it is done in a tasteful manner, and displaying the flag on a t-shirt is not in bad taste. By your logic, and by extension, the school should have hauled down the Stars and Stripes because they were having a Cinco de Mayo celebration. You are wrong Mr. Squires.
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04:12 PM on 05/11/2010
Where am I being angry?

And yes, I did read the post. And where did I say you were condoning the bashing of America? My take was that the idea of wearing the American flag or even waving it should be considered in any way anti-liberal or anti-Mexican. Those boys intended it to be that way, but should we buy into that? Doesn't the flag represent liberals too?

News Alert--Teenagers acting like insensitive jerks!
08:44 PM on 05/10/2010
Also, the boys in question, yes did this in response to the hundreds of other students displaying mexico's colors. did you ever think that the hispanic students doing this was disrespectful or offended other students? what the biggest offense was that the school administration didnt tell the 5 students tht they were "being jackasses", but instead didnt take the mexican holiday and organize it in a way everyone could feel respected, or take the time to open this as a discussion to ease race relationshion and get some dialog going to help bring the students into a better understanding of each other's culture and feelings.
09:04 PM on 05/10/2010
wow I had lots of spelling and grammatical errors, the pain of trying to type and not let stuff burn on the stove
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glockman
07:45 AM on 05/11/2010
Where does it say in any of our laws that you have the right to be free from being offended?
08:42 PM on 05/10/2010
So, what if students wear an American flag T-shirt to a Boston public school on St. Patrick's Day? Or to a Louisiana public school on Mardi Gras? Or to a Hawaiian public school on King Kamehameha Day? Where does it end? Just because there are more American students with strong feelings for their Mexican ancestry than those with strong feelings for their Irish or French or Hawaiian ancestry, that makes it OK?
08:36 PM on 05/10/2010
The only reason Cinco De Mayo has even had such a response this year is in light of recent May Day reallies and the passing of Arizona's immigration law. Every year passed Cinco de Mayo has hardly made a stir. What is offensive, and what most people are made about, is this sense of entitlement shared by Mexican-Americans that they shouldnt have presented the USA Flag during Cinco de Mayo and that in doing so they are somehow disrespected? Well Im sorry, this is the USA. The whole story behind Cinco de Mayo was when the Mexican Republic finally defeated the French during the Franco-Mexican War...and do you know how they accomplished this??? With the help of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! That is right, if it wasnt for the USA stepping in they would all be speaking FRENCH! Mexico was almost entirely occupied and being ruled by the French under Napoleon III and archduke Maximilian Ferdinand until the USA intervened. Dont believe me, look it up. France invade Mexico, with the blessings of Britain and Spain, because Mexico quit making interest payments to Mexico's foreign creditors (see Treaty of London). There is absolutely no reason ANY mexican, while in the US, should be offended by seeing an American flag. There should be no contempt for our immigration laws either considering Mexico has even stricter laws.
08:32 PM on 05/10/2010
I am an immigrant, who came to America seeking a better life. My parents sacrificed everythingfor the freedom that America represents. I became a U.S. citizen by choice. I am personally deeply offended by what happened, not because I am some flag-toting right wing nut, but because it is a complete desecration of the values that this country is supposed to represent.

We, as citizens, are justified in expecting those who come to this country to adopt and respect its core values, no matter who they are or where they come from. No one has to agree with everything that the government does, but everyone should abide by the principles or our Constitutional democracy, and to respect the rule of law. Something is seriously wrong when a simple act of expression, regardless of what it was intended to express, is not only allowed to be silenced, but is actively prevented by the administration due to threats of violence. And this is exactly what happened at Live Oak high school.

There is a deeper, more disturbing, cultural undertone to all of this. The American flag is supposed to stand for Americans of all races, ethnic backgrounds, and national origins. The fact that it is seen as 'offensive' by some proves that those who are offended (1) see themselves as separate and (2) in some respect opposed to what they perceive the flag to be. It is this "us v. them" attitude that is the core of the problem.
07:49 PM on 05/10/2010
As the poet John Prine has written, "Your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore."