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A Critic of Political Islam Warns of 'Misguided' West

Posted: 09/17/11 11:21 AM ET

Maryam Namazie is a powerful voice against political Islam, and a major campaigner against sharia courts in Britain, but she is a lapsed Muslim and Westernized. Is she disqualified from the debate and are her warnings relevant to the West?

Born into a religious Muslim family, Namazie left Iran aged 13, at the time of the revolution. During a recent interview in Australia, she recalled the Islamic guards they called "Hezbollahs," who descended on her school to enforce segregation of the sexes and compulsory veiling for girls from the age of 9.

Namazie also champions Muslim women's reform. Both secular and religious women advocate changes in discriminatory laws but the latter believe reform can only be accomplished from within Islam. As a former Muslim, Namazie is a target for intimidation and threats. She is also denigrated for lacking Islamic scholarship. Such censure, she says, "is just an argument to exclude people from the debate and stifle criticism."

Her concerns extend beyond women's rights to the ideology of political Islam, or Islamism, which she describes as a far right, totalitarian, homophobic, misogynist movement with imperialist designs. Adherents of this heretical strain of the religion aim for state conquest and rule by sharia.

Critics of Islamism, she says, are vitally important to the well being of the West and the vast majority of Muslims. In her case, a clear message is matched with activism as spokesperson for the One Law for All Campaign against sharia in Britain, the International Committee against Stoning and other human rights organizations.

She points to sharia as the most widely used religious law in the world, its growth associated with the rise of Islamism. However, Western powers, in particular the United States, have misconstrued Islamist ideology. This was evident in their shortsighted appraisal of revolutionary Iran during the Guadeloupe conference in 1979, and use of the mujahedeen against the Soviet Union during the Cold War. Islamism was also strengthened by the failed project of modernization in the Middle East and North Africa and the economic ascendance of Saudi Arabia, with its extremist, Wahhabi form of Islam. In continuing the policy of building Islamic courts in Afghanistan, Namazie believes the United States is still misguided about the intentions of Islamism and the risks of appeasing Islamists.

Perhaps the greatest current boost to political Islam in the West, she says, derives from cultural relativism that has advanced notions of moral equivalence, tolerance of extremism, and also silenced opinion makers fearful of being labeled racist.

In the process, the dangers of political Islam inherent in the Iranian revolution were largely ignored. Originally left-leaning and female led, the revolution was hijacked by Islamists, and although brutally suppressed, revolutionary fervor was never destroyed. Seventy percent of the population in Iran is under the age of 30, well educated and committed to the Internet. This new generation is now attempting to complete the revolution that was started three decades ago.

Namazie believes political Islam in the West is linked to the forces unleashed at the time of the revolution, but unlike Muslim communities in the West, Iran is currently in the grip of an anti-Islamic backlash and secular protest movement. Jokes that would be considered Islamophobic in Western countries are common currency, and some Iranian women are resisting authorities that have stepped up arrests for improper veiling.

It is very difficult for Muslims to reform Islam, as the religion has turned into a political movement, and she compares the situation to the Christian Inquisition, when any criticism against those in power was considered dangerous. Eventually, the Inquisition was reined in. If Islamism were also curbed, she believes reform would follow, and Islam would be relegated to a personal, rather than a state matter.

Muslim women, particularly in Iran, are in the forefront of the reform of discriminatory laws because they have the most to gain, but they need grassroots solidarity in the West, similar to the support networks that were established during the battle against racial apartheid in South Africa. In the struggle for reform, secular women have a special role, as their path clears the way for others. Homa Arjomand, a secular reformer on the left, started the campaign against sharia courts in Canada, and as the movement developed, more traditional Muslim women, who previously felt intimidated, joined the organization.

Although the "Arab Spring" is a new opportunity for the development of freedom in the region, Namazie is concerned that well-organized Islamist groups could seize control unless the West strongly supports the secular vanguard and resists appeasement of Islamists. Past history indicates her warnings deserve to be heeded.

 
 
 

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11:34 AM on 09/19/2011
The equation is simple. Religion + Statism = Insanity.

That's true whether we're talking about the Dominionist current in fundamentalist Christianity, the persistence of Orthodox Judaism in the politics of Israel, or the use of Sharia Law to form the legal structures of various Muslim countries.

Religion + Statism = Insanity.

Reform minded Muslims know this. Reform minded ex-Muslims know this. And most non-Muslims know this as well.

Religion + Statism = Insanity.

When the 1.6 Muslims all over the world come to recognize this one fact, Islam will reform. Until they do, it will not reform.

Religion + Statism = Insanity.

As long as a majority of Muslims reject this one fact, it is not irrational to fear Islam as a religion. It is, in fact, rational - because Religion + Statism = Insanity.

It is rational for Muslims and ex-Muslims to fear their own religious heritage - just as it would have been rational for a Christian to fear his own religion when church and state were joined, as they were, for centuries.

Religion + Statism = Insanity.
10:03 AM on 09/20/2011
I don't think those planing to a Calipha rule care nor agree. Unfortunately our democratic countries are open to their dogma and dark mentality. It is time for the west to wake up and see the threat of those people.
07:48 AM on 09/19/2011
Unfortunately, political Islam permeates Islamic countries, and they don't even realize it. It is the same model as the Christian West, circa 800 AD. Like the dark ages of old, the most telling sign is that Muslims still identify themselves with religion, and worse, believe others think similarly, thus creating an atmosphere of Us vs Them. "Muslim-American", "Muslim nations", "Muslim culture" etc would be considered backwards if replaced with "Christian" in the West, and unthinkable stupid to East Asian countries. A true separation of mosque and state would bring radical changes they can scarcely imagine. Alas, these things take time.
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12:18 AM on 09/20/2011
Alas, these things take time.
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And pressure. We secular non Muslims can supply that.

It's a bit more difficult for Christians and Jews to criticize Muslims because they all three have so many faults in common.
09:59 AM on 09/20/2011
True :)
FrancisKing
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04:04 PM on 09/20/2011
"because they all three have so many faults in common."

Oh, bless.
06:09 AM on 09/19/2011
There is no such thing as political Islam and there is nothing wrong with Muslims getting together and forming a community. Furthermore, since the only God sanctioned authority in Islam is the Ummah (People) and this responsibility cannot and must not be passed on to any individual or body, which is not directly controlled by them, hence there is nothing preventing them from deciding that Quran will be the constitution of their community. As long as it is done in a way that the interpretations of Quran is firmly in the hands of the Ummah through duly appointed representative in an all inclusive direct rule as opposed to leaving this important task to the clergy and/or judiciary, in which case it will become a theocracy hence un-Islamic.
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Show me some evidence.
12:00 PM on 09/20/2011
That sounds like exactly what the Religious Right in America wants. Take a vote, see which superstition is the most powerful, then let those people define what is true and what is not unconstrained by fundamental human rights. Allow a ancient book, based on nothing but the opinions of Bronze Age goat herders (Iron Age goat herders in the case of Islam), to determine everyone's behavior and limits.
02:07 AM on 09/21/2011
It may sound like it but it is anything but what the Religious Right in America or or anywhere else wants. The verification and validation in Islam as detailed in the Primary Document Quran is in the hands of each individual, hence the vote is an informed vote and based on verified word of God. Yes I know what your knee jerk reaction will be :) In spite of dismissive remarks of the "rational" bunch, It is very much verifiable and always has been, furthermore this verification is consistent with the availability of tools in any given age.

What started as a localized verification largeley restricted to Arabic speakers has passed through various stages of increasing sophistication and wider application and have now reached where verification can be done using the Universal language of mathematics. No amount of references to goats will change this by now established fact.

BTW which part of the Quranic message is not consistent with "Human Rights" as define by ............... take your pick to fill in the blank.
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04:05 PM on 09/18/2011
"Eventually, the Inquisition was reined in. If Islamism were also curbed, she believes reform would follow, and Islam would be relegated to a personal, rather than a state matter."
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The problem here is that nothing in Christianity dictates that it be the temporal authority. On the contrary, Jesus settled that with, "My kingdom is not of this world" and, "Render unto Caesar..." So it was no great reform to rein in the Inquisition as there never was anything in the Bible to support it in the first place. Eliminating the Inquisition was a political act, not a religious one.

But that's not so under Islam. From the beginning, Islam was both religion and government. Unlike Christianity, Islam has a comprehensive body of legislation covering family law, business law, civil law, and criminal law. Reforming Islam to be a private rather than public matter would be almost impossible because too much would have to be given up.
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Abdul-Halim Vazquez
07:07 PM on 09/18/2011
That argument is anti-historical. It is only now in modern times that "render unto caesar.." is made into some kind precedent for the separation of church and state. For a thousand years you have the Holy Roman Empire, the Byzantines, and even later a pretty incestuous relationship between the church and the state. Even after the Reformation began you have Calvin in Geneva burning Michael Servetus. And even in America you have the Salem Witch trials

Also, technically the Inquisition's mechanisms are still there in the Church. (Ratzinger was the former head).

Also, in terms of ISlam, if you are not Muslim you are generally free to follow your own laws in private matters.
12:03 AM on 09/19/2011
But this is my FAVOURITE technique.

You can't comment on Islam because you aren't good enough to do so or somebody in history that you have nothing in common with did. It is a fantastic argument. Specious, and manipulative.
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Joan E Freyer
11:58 AM on 09/19/2011
'If you are not Muslim you are generally free to follow your own laws in private matters'

Alas, in Egypt the Copts are not even allowed that. Their churches are burned down and not allowed to be rebuilt. They are not allowed to celebrate openly. They are treated as second class citizens which under Sharia Law is required. And there are continious reports of Copic girls being dragged off the streets by Muslim men who kidhap them and force them to 'convert'.

Throughout history Sharia Law has not been nice to non Muslims.

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11:55 AM on 09/18/2011
Generally when people fear that their comments may be seen as racist, it's because they are racist.
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Damn Damien
Naturally!
02:17 PM on 09/18/2011
Except, those who usually fling labels of racism, don't seem to understand what exactly constitutes race.
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05:15 PM on 09/18/2011
I'm referring to the statement
the greatest current boost to political Islam in the West, she says, derives from cultural relativism that has advanced notions of moral equivalence, tolerance of extremism, and also silenced opinion makers fearful of being labeled racist.
It would be wiser, IMO, to point to how religious conservatives of all stripes, not just Muslims, are bad for women in general, and usually do harm when they take power. Any time you see religious conservatives get into power, things get worse for most people in that country. You certainly see examples of that in Christianity over and over and over again.
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02:19 PM on 09/18/2011
Unlike cultural relativists, who are overtly proud of being cultural relativists.
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09:48 PM on 09/17/2011
The difference.
"I would believe only in a God that knows how to Dance.
And we should consider every day lost on which we have not danced at least once. And we should call every truth false which was not accompanied by at least one laugh. -
Nietzsche
Versus

"Allah did not create man so that he could have fun. The aim of creation was for mankind to be put to the test through hardship and prayer. An Islamic regime must be serious in every field. There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humor in Islam. There is no fun in Islam. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious." -- Ayatollah Khomeini”

' Nough said
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Abdul-Halim Vazquez
11:49 PM on 09/18/2011
Um, you mean like whirling dervishes?

or the lesser known... breakdancing naqshbandis....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX66n-uxghg
07:58 PM on 09/17/2011
[SECOND ATTEMPT TO RE-POST PART ONE OF MY POST]

"She points to sharia as the most widely used religious law in the world, its growth associated with the rise of Islamism."

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The assertion that Shari'ah's growth is associated with the rise of Islamism is invalid.

Shari'ah is simply the outer code of Islam, designed to provide a protective and conducive environment for the self to grow so that it reflects the higher qualities of selflessness, compassion, justice, generosity, humility, forgiveness, and ultimately love.

Since individual selves form a community and society, as they reflect the higher qualities, to a varying degree, they help to form communities (such as the various Sufi communities that exist around the world) and eventually societies that reflect the higher qualities collectively.

[Continues]
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09:43 PM on 09/17/2011
Fact: Every. Single. Islamist political entity which assumes power in any corner of the globe immediately implements totalitarian Shariah policies including its horrific provisions for punishment of adultery, heresy and apostasy and theft.
Your attempt to separate Islamism from Shariah has no basis in reality.
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Damn Damien
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08:01 AM on 09/18/2011
"Your attempt to separate Islamism from Shariah has no basis in reality. "
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One word: Taqiyyah.

Why are you afraid of a law that tells you to wash with dirt (if necessary) if you have come into contact with a woman? As @Tolerant has been telling you, Islam means Sufism, and all religions are intrinsically the same.
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MarcEdward
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12:02 PM on 09/18/2011
Really?
Provide a list of these totalitarian Islamic nations please.
Thanks!
(my bet is you don't know what you're talking about, as usual)
07:05 PM on 09/17/2011
[Cont'd]

Understood in this manner, anything that is not condicive for the self to grow to reflect the higher qualities is not part of the Shari'ah.

And since individual selves form a community and a society, the same rules apply to those aspects of the Shari'ah that deal with communities and societies.

For further reading, I refer those readers who are open-minded and willing, to "The Heart of Islam" by Seyyed Hossein Nasr.

There is no question that some Muslims have corrupted parts of the Shari'ah. But this doesn't mean that there are no Muslims who are not engaged in reforming those parts.

Sincerely,

tolerant
07:51 PM on 09/17/2011
Obviously, the first part of this post of mine was rejected by the moderators; not sure why -- I am very careful about following HP guidelines.

Hopefully, this second part still makes some sense to the readers without its first part.

Sincerely,

tolerant
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11:19 AM on 09/18/2011
“If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared
to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be
destroyed, and tolerance with them.
We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant.” - Karl Popper

This is the best argument against spread of Islamic totalitarian doctrine in the West I've heard.
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eddy joe
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03:23 PM on 09/17/2011
This is what I have been saying. I have accused americans as being like Neville chamberlain, and have gotten hammered.
nancynancy
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09:27 PM on 09/17/2011
Appeasement is exactly what a large percentage of the American Left is proposing. Unfortunately, they fail to realize that in allying themselves with Islamist militants, they are shooting themselves in the foot.
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MarcEdward
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12:56 PM on 09/18/2011
Nobody in the American left is allying themselves with so called "Islamist militants", so your post makes no sense.
In the USA, who are these "Islamist militants" and how is allying themselves with them? Or does this happen in your head?
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MarcEdward
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12:55 PM on 09/18/2011
And justifiably hammered. Comparing a small minority of Muslims to Hitler is inane in the extreme.
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04:15 PM on 09/18/2011
That is your opinon, and you know what they say those are like. I believe you will one day change your obtuse mind.
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07:41 PM on 09/18/2011
The Ba'ath party is a direct descendant of the national socialist movement. Through the grand mufti of Jerusalem and his followers( Nasser and Arafat) there is a direct lineage from AH to several Arab governments primarily Syria and pre war Iraq. It still has a presence in Egypt and the west bank and Gaza, Lebanon, Jordan and Mauritania. I even used the left's favorite source Wiki for this.
Small number? if even one percent are extreme that's a lot of people!
nancynancy
Atheist.
02:34 PM on 09/17/2011
Thank you, Dr. Lichter, for this important article on Maryam Namazie, a wise and brave woman whose warning we should all heed. I strongly support Ms. Namazier and her secular sisters in Iran and wish them every success.
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02:21 PM on 09/17/2011
Yet more voices of Muslims who see Islamism and sharia for what they truly are. May their ranks increase.
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03:14 PM on 09/17/2011
I am all for the groups that are against these islamic laws in our country and I do't blame them one bit for not wanting them to be considered as legal typs of laws here in America.Many of these people got the hell out of those country's to escape the repression and the way the women are treated as animals more or less,not allowed to drive,not allowed to dress like the rest of us are allowed to.I say good for them and that they continue to fight islamic laws being legal here in this country.They wanted to get away from that stuff when they moved here
03:57 PM on 09/17/2011
An overwhelming majority of people who oppose Shari'ah know nothing about it.

When a Muslim washes before offering his canonical prayers, he does that according to the Shari'ah.

When a Muslim offers his canonical prayers, he does that according to the rules of the Shari'ah.

When a Muslim fasts, he does so as per the Shari'ah.

When a Muslim helps out the poor, the needy, the wayfarer, he follows the Shari'ah.

When a Muslim performs the Hajj, he does that according to the rules set forth in the Shari'ah.

When a Muslim is generous towards his next of kin, relatives, friends, neighbors and co-workers, he follows the Shari'ah.

When a Muslim works diligently at work with utmost honesty, he obeys the Shari'ah.

When a Muslim stays away from back-biting, gossiping, intoxicants, he does that according to the Shari'ah.

When a Muslim obeys the laws of the land in which he lives, it is due to the Shari'ah.

When a Muslim makes sure that he has a will, he obeys the Shari'ah.

Muslims all over the world, whether they are living in a Muslim majority country or as a minority, are living their lives as Muslims in a meaningful way contributing to the progress and welfare of the society they are living in.

If a Muslim wants to live as a Muslim, he has no choice but to obey the laws of the Shari'ah in the matters I have listed above.
05:44 PM on 09/17/2011
You are the new Doug Sandlin here.
You seem to cherry pick and notmention the whole truh.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia
Sharia deals with many topics addressed by secular law, including crime, politics and economics, as well as personal matters such as sexuality, hygiene, diet, prayer, and fasting.

The reintroduction of Sharia is a longstanding goal for Islamist movements in Muslim countries.
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06:10 PM on 09/17/2011
Faved. Thanks for contributing clarity to a discussion too often fraught with distorted notions of Islam, Shari'ah and the Quran. Especially appreciated is the grace with which you speak.
12:56 PM on 09/17/2011
Quote: "Is she disqualified from the debate and are her warnings relevant to the West?" No she isn't, but Maryam is quick to disqualify others from the debate about Islamisation.
11:58 AM on 09/17/2011
"It is very difficult for Muslims to reform Islam, as the religion has turned into a political movement, and she compares the situation to the Christian Inquisition, when any criticism against those in power was considered dangerous."

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Nonsense!

There is a tremendous amount of self-criticism and disagreements within Islam.

If there were none, Islam/Muslims would be monolithic.

There are many currents within Islam -- a few are bad, but most are good.

For more information on the positive currents within Islam, I refer the readers to the following authors and Sufi Shaykhs:

1. Seyyed Hossein Nasr
2. William Chittick
3. Shaykh Fadhlalla Haeri
4. ibn Arabi
5. Rumi
6. Kabir and Camilla Helminski
7. Frithjof Schuon
8. Rene Genon
9. Dr. Abou El Fadl
10. Martin Lings

Moreover, Shari'ah is also not monolithic -- some forms are bad, most are good, especially those forms of the Shari'ah that are adhered to by the traditional and Sufi Muslims.
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02:45 PM on 09/18/2011
Thanks for the list of Sufi Sheiks. We'll have plenty of occasion to talk about their points of view, as soon as we find children at Madrases memorizing their writings, and following in their footsteps.

In another response you admitted that Sufis are being persecuted, especially in Iran. You should have also noted that populations that were previously adherents of Sufism or under its influence are being increasingly radicalized by the spread of Salafism--for example in South Asia.

"Moreover, Shari'ah is also not monolithic..."
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Extremely astute, but irrelevant observation. No one is opposing the good parts of Sharia--pay your Zakat, just not to militant organizations. Law!
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04:19 PM on 09/18/2011
It's only been 30-some years since the label "heretic" was removed from Sufis. What Sufis believe is politically irrelevant. It's like the Amish speaking up against the Catholic Church. And actually, compared to other religions and human endeavors, Islam is indeed remarkable monolithic. It's inherently monolithic thanks to its declared immutability. Researchers have been amazed to discover how little the Quran has changed over the centuries.
04:36 PM on 09/18/2011
Who gave the "heretic" lable to the Sufis and who removed it?

Can you provide some scholarly references?

I have been immersed in Sufism for about 40 years and I have only seen/heard us call bad Muslims from those who are very much influenced by the Wahhabis and the Salafis.

Saudi Arabia oppressed the Sufis, but the current king has mellowed down towards them.

The Iranians have been harsh against the Sufis, as were the Ataturk of Turkey and the Russians when they had Islamic republicans under their control.

But Sufism flourished for hundreds of years in India without the Sufis being called heretics.

They benefited both the Muslims and the non-Muslims.

Even in death, the grace from them issues forth - recently, in response to a letter of mine that was published in a local newspaper, a former baby doctor of my daughters, who is a Hindu, looked me up and called me to thank me for the letter and to reminisce about his days in India when he used to go to the Sufi shrines to listen to the Sufi music and benefit from it spiritually.

The light emanating from the Sufi masters shines on other Sufis and non-Sufis alike.

It's a phenomenon I have observed many times.

Also see this article:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stephen-schwartz/how-many-sufis-in-world-i_b_902164.html

The Sufis are not a demonination. So they exist in all schools of thought.

Islam is not monolithic.

[Continues]
04:39 PM on 09/18/2011
[Part 2]

There are many currents within Islam -- some are dangerous, most are not.

I have listed many books on Sufism in many of my comments. Perhaps, one can look them up and read some of the books to get a better understanding of Sufism.

1. "The Elements of Sufism" by Shaykh Fadhlalla Haeri

2. "Sufi Essays" by Seyyed Hossein Nasr

3. "Sufi Path of Love: The Spiritual Teachings of Rumi" by William Chittick [Rumi's poetry is essentially considered a commentary on the Qur`an]

4. "Sufism: A Beginner's Guide" by William Chittick

5. Various Qur`anic Commentaries by Shaykh Fadhlalla Haeri

6. "Inner Meaning of Worship in Islam" by Shaykh Fadhlalla Haeri

7. "Witnessing Perfection" by Shaykh Fadhlalla Haeri

8. Various writings of Shaykh Kabir Helminski

9. Various discourses by Shaykh Fadhlalla Haeri. See http://www.shaykhfadhlallahaeri.com/ for details (Audios and Videos)

10. "Introduction to Sufi Doctrine" by Titus Burckhardt

11. "What is Sufism" by William Chittick