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Personal Socialized Medicine Experiences: Not for the Weak-Hearted?

Posted: 07/27/2012 11:36 am

The sharp pain in my abdomen left me bent over, unable to stand up. I had just woken up from a night's sleep and it was a couple of days before I was schedule to fly back home to the States from a visit to the Hebrew university where I was giving a talk. I left my native country of Israel almost a decade earlier to pursue graduate school training in Canada but at the urging of my mom, I kept my Israeli health insurance rights (at a cost of less than $300 a year), so I was still covered by the socialized health care every citizen enjoys there. As the pain persisted, I went to an emergency room at a local hospital. In less than four hours I was seen by an emergency room doctor (twice) and a nephrologist, received a CT and MRI and admitted to a hospital internal medicine unit with a diagnosis of a kidney stone, which relieved my anxiety that I had appendicitis. I spent the next two nights at the hospital, even though the pain subsided after only one day. The stone was too small to necessitate surgical intervention but knowing that I had to take a long flight in two days, they left me there for observation to be on the safe side. The care was exceptional. The bill came to $0.

Unfortunately, I did not pass the stone in these couple of days. The doctors have warned me that the pain could come back any time with a movement of the stone, but I had to get back home so I boarded my flight. I spent the last few hours of the flight fighting off increasing pains, to the extent that I was offered a seat in the business class that I couldn't even enjoy properly. At JFK, I was taken off the plane in a stretcher and two friendly paramedics drove me to a local hospital. I spent a couple of hours in the hospital where a doctor saw me for about five minutes and I received a CT scan. With a high dosage of painkillers, I was released to take my next flight up-state. The bill arrived in the mail a couple of days later with over $5,000 in charges that my health insurance company did not indicate willingness to cover at the time. It took them a few weeks and occasional updates to assume responsibility for the lion's share of the bill, leaving me to pay only my co-pay. As a postdoc living on an NIH fellowship, the thought that I might need to pay the bill myself was anxiety-provoking. I know many people with health insurance who deal with similar anxiety when they experience medical emergencies, and are still in limbo before their insurance companies approve the coverage. Remarkably, we are the lucky ones. The unlucky ones often have the choice between ignoring obvious medical warning signs or facing medical bankruptcy. With health costs at the level they are today, these attractive choices also apply to many in the middle class.

In the short time I have lived in the U.S., I've heard much about the horror of the socialized medicine systems in other countries. Interestingly, all these comments came from people who never lived in such countries, not to mention used their health care systems. The lack of experience does not stop them from making confident yet outrageous comments on these systems. I do believe that one does not have to experience shooting heroin to make a strong, educated opinion on the practice. However, this does not seem to be the case when it come to health care, as these opinions seem mostly like a disjointed array of personal tragic anecdotes that were given a stage by interested stakeholders in the profitable health care game.

I was unfortunate enough to need health services when I lived in Israel and Canada, as I put my body in harm's way. Yet I was fortunate enough to have these systems there for me to provide me with great and timely care. In 2002, I traveled in Thailand for a couple of months. I rented a motorcycle on one of the islands and ended up in an unnecessary and unpleasant rendezvous with a careless tree. I was sprawled on the ground with the snickering tree towering above me. Later on, at the hut I stayed in, I fell asleep with a half full glass of soda next to me. I woke up with a rat darting from side to side on a beam that held the thatched roof above me. I celebrated this lovely experience with a swig of the warm soda piss (literally) next to my bed.

A couple of weeks later, back in Israel, I experienced an aching body as I never did before. A visit to my family's doctor produced a prescription for aspirin and rest but no real remedy. A couple of days later I checked myself in a local hospital and was immediately put in the ICU once they realized my kidneys shut down. Fortunately, they called various doctors to aid with my diagnosis and a local tropical disease expert correctly diagnosed my condition as an exotic disease name leptoperosis, which one can get from exposure to infected rat urine. This diagnosis and the follow-up care saved my kidneys and probably my life (I was at the ICU for two days with my fever breaching 104 degrees at time). Needless to say that my bill came to $0.

I left for Canada a week after I was released from the hospital and did not need medical services for a few years. However, I did notice that whenever I take a knee (playing sports, proposing marriage, fixing a leaking pipe) there is a sharp pain running up my right knee. A visit to a doctor (of my choice) led me the get an x-ray that showed a foreign body in my knee. I was referred to a surgeon and was able to see him in less than a week despite the lack of emergency. Using local anesthetics he removed a piece of glass from my knee that was lodged there since my motorcycle accident in Thailand. The bill: $0.

These are just my own personal experiences in the vilified world of government-run health care systems vs. the lauded one of a privatized system. There are many with experiences similar to mine (for a personal account of a staunch Republican's experience with the Canadian Universal Healthcare system look here) and some with horror stories on these different systems. None of them is perfect. However, relying on someone's personal experiences, which has more intuitive appeal to most of us compared with dry numbers, is reflecting a very limited and often biased picture. My experiences are idiosyncratic, but so are the experiences you hear that make your hair stand. Compiling these stories together often serves an agenda of those who compile them and publish them. Insurance companies will search and bring you horror stories of government-run systems with notable zeal, sparing no expense. I have an agenda too which I will not hide -- I'm baffled by individuals' defense of a system that is designed to make profits out of their maladies. That is the reason that I think one will be better judging the system on its cost and performance using widely accepted yard sticks. I offered some of these in a previous post. However, I know that personal stories and experiences are more easy to relate to than numbers and I was happy to share mine with all of you who may not have had the chance to experience a health care system that is not motivated by greed and profits.

 
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The sharp pain in my abdomen left me bent over, unable to stand up. I had just woken up from a night's sleep and it was a couple of days before I was schedule to fly back home to the States from a vis...
The sharp pain in my abdomen left me bent over, unable to stand up. I had just woken up from a night's sleep and it was a couple of days before I was schedule to fly back home to the States from a vis...
 
 
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TheTightwireGuy
Attempting to balance reason and passion
04:13 AM on 07/29/2012
Because (according to the obstructionists to sensible health care reform) it is the American Way to profit off of the misfortune of others.
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TheTightwireGuy
Attempting to balance reason and passion
04:08 AM on 07/29/2012
Nice article.
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whyus
San Francisco native
12:28 AM on 07/29/2012
NHS would benefit Everyone, except certain blood sucking insurance companies and a few senators.
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Sid Viscuous
12:05 AM on 07/29/2012
Excellent post
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Catriona
Wha daur meddle wi me?
09:17 PM on 07/28/2012
Thank you, doctor. Well said.

I moved to Europe because I could not get health insurance in the US, due to pre-existing condition, the result of an injury when I was TEN.

Here I work, pay my taxes, and don't worry.
05:55 PM on 07/28/2012
I had a conversation just this week about how many people my friend
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Richard Garrick
This space reserved for clever comment.
11:06 AM on 07/28/2012
Is it true that businesses in countries with socialized health care actually prefer it?
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Hazelhill
This storm is not yet over
02:46 PM on 07/28/2012
I don't have evidence that businesses like it, but here are some reasons why they might.
1) the overall costs of healthcare per employee are less expensive than in the cost of healthcare per employee in the US.
2) it levels the playing field between companies so instead of competing on heathcare they can focus on investments in innovation and productivity
3) highly talented individuals are not tied to an employer for fear of losing healthcare, instead they can move to an employer who best uses their talent.
4) small businesses can start up and operate without having to offer health insurance - because everyone has it.
5) there are fewer bankruptcies due to health expenses
6) lower administration costs for doctors, lower advertising costs for drug companies and no advertising cost for basic health insurance means more money available for consumers to spend on products and services,
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Catriona
Wha daur meddle wi me?
09:14 PM on 07/28/2012
7) AND we know our employees get the care they need without it raising our insurance premiums.
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Nighthawlk
09:05 AM on 07/29/2012
We all know that this has been coming from Hillary since she tried so hard to have Bill push it. We all know tha Hillary worked for the insurance industry prior to becoming First Lady.

The Insurance Industry will reap tons of money. It is stupid not to realize this,
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
06:31 PM on 07/28/2012
http://progressillinois.com/quick-hits/content/2012/06/19/poll-small-business-owners-actually-aca

Small business owners want it in the USA too.
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Mansons psychedelic soul
Walking through forever, i'm living in my dream.
05:44 AM on 07/28/2012
"Did you know that in the Far East, people pay their doctors when they're healthy? When they're sick, they don't have to pay. So basically, they end up paying for what they want, not what they don't want. We've got it all @55-backwards, here." John kramer, 'Jigsaw'.
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Mansons psychedelic soul
Walking through forever, i'm living in my dream.
05:43 AM on 07/28/2012
In a profit-based society, the private healthcare industry has a financial interest in you being sick!!
The more people sick & dying, the better for business. There is something very wrong about this, it has corruption sewn into its very foundation.
If a very simple cure for cancer that can not be patented is discovered, the industry will do everything it can to prevent said treatment from getting to the people who need it. At the same time, they will do everything they can to maximise the profit margin selling whatever will net the most to those who can afford it.

When your health & well-being is directly linked to your wealth, & a profit-based corporate monopoly is running the country, rampant crime becomes an inevitable part of everyday life in a sick & selfish society.

""What's in it for me?" is the way people think. And so if a man makes money selling a certain product, naturally he is going to fight the existence of another product that may threaten his institution. Therefore people cannot be fair and people do not trust each other. A guy will come over to you and say, "I've got just the house you're looking for."
He's a salesman. When a doctor says, "I think your kidney has to come out." I don't know if he's trying to pay off a yacht or that my kidney has to come out; it's hard in a monetary system to trust people." Jacque Fresco.
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Karelh
When fact is fiction and TV reality
02:16 PM on 07/29/2012
Have you noticed that there really haven't been any cures for any disease in the last 40 years? Oh we have all kinds of pills to treat, but not cure. The for-profit motive is to turn all ailments into chronic disease that must be continuously treated.i.e. take a pill a day...that's the cash cow, a one shot cure...not so much!
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Dr Billy Kidd
post-modern shrink, practicing wellness
02:08 AM on 07/28/2012
So, what do you do if you're this guy and born in Amrerica and cannot afford health insurance? Stay home? Don't try anything?
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TinyDancer1
Taking a break for a while.
01:16 AM on 07/28/2012
The reason people who never lived in countries that provide socialized medicine, or ever used socialized medicine, continue to claim that socialized medicine will be horrible is because that is what the Republican politicians say, and the party faithful blindly accept anything that is said by a Republican to be true. These people don't bother to do any of their own research to investigate the validity of the claims made by the Republicans.
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
06:33 PM on 07/28/2012
The GOPT dups don't even think for themselves. They just do what their betters tell them.
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TinyDancer1
Taking a break for a while.
03:08 PM on 08/05/2012
I believe that.
10:18 PM on 07/27/2012
Apparently, the author doesn't understand "American exceptionalism," an expression first used by Josef Stalin but long ago co-opted by the American right wing to mean that whatever the US does is better than what any other country does.

The author's personal experiences, or those of anyone else who has undergone medical treatment both in the US and in a country with socialized medicine or some other form of universal health care, make no difference to the vast majority of Americans. Despite never having experienced health care in any other country, because they believe in "American exceptionalism" they take it for granted that health care is better in the US than anywhere else despite objective standards (infant mortality rates, longevity, etc.) that seem to indicate otherwise.
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Konnie
Really South Carolina??
09:16 PM on 07/27/2012
the american private for profit health insurance system is a sin. making a profit at every level on the backs of the sick and dying is an atrocity.
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Nighthawlk
08:41 AM on 07/29/2012
Hospitals must recover expenses for the all the free services the government mandates. Those that can pay get stuck with the losses.

Some hospitals in California and in other states have had to close or recieve 'bail-out' money from the US tax payers
barbara jay
my kid says hi
10:55 AM on 07/29/2012
The legitimate needs of both sides - the health care consumers and the health care providers, must be met to the best of the society's ability. Many other countries come far closer to meeting this objective than the U.S. does. Both you and Konnie make a point, but it shouldn't be impossible to reconcile these points.
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Exfl
A centrist until the center moved.
08:12 PM on 07/27/2012
"That any sane nation, having observed that you could provide for the supply of bread by giving bakers a pecuniary interest in baking for you, should go on to give a surgeon a pecuniary interest in cutting off your leg is enough to make one despair of political humanity." George Bernard Shaw
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Mansons psychedelic soul
Walking through forever, i'm living in my dream.
05:51 AM on 07/28/2012
""What's in it for me?" is the way people think. And so if a man makes money selling a certain product, naturally he is going to fight the existence of another product that may threaten his institution. Therefore people cannot be fair and people do not trust each other. A guy will come over to you and say, "I've got just the house you're looking for."
He's a salesman. When a doctor says, "I think your kidney has to come out." I don't know if he's trying to pay off a yacht or that my kidney has to come out; it's hard in a monetary system to trust people." Jacque Fresco, founder of 'The Venus Project'.
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Sid Viscuous
12:06 AM on 07/29/2012
Excellent
06:46 PM on 07/27/2012
The sickest part of American health care is the system of primarily employer supplied health care insurance.