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Veterans Respected, But Misunderstood

Posted: 06/26/2012 10:06 am

Walking hand-in-hand with his mother at the age of 5, Roxley Pratt looked up and saw what he wanted to be. He spotted the crisp uniform, impeccable posture and stoic gaze of the sentry standing guard at the U.S. Embassy in war-torn Sierra Leone, and he knew who he wanted to be: a U.S. Marine.

Years later, after he and his family were finally able to immigrate to America, Roxley joined the Marine Corps to fund his education. After 9/11 he deployed to Iraq, where he rehearsed counter-ambush techniques in the intense heat. The work was dangerous, but unlike some of his younger counterparts, Roxley was familiar with war. He knew from his childhood in Sierra Leone, the Marines would be entrusted with leaving a positive impression on Iraqi children. He served honorably for six years, but upon returning to civilian life, Roxley felt something was missing.

"Coming home from combat transforms you in ways for which you are not prepared," he says. Over the next four years, people graciously thanked him for his service, but when it came to landing a decent job, he struggled to get interviews. For a time, this proud Marine was between apartment leases, and was forced to zip himself into his sleeping bag in the backseat of his car for a few hours of rest each night.

A survey released recently by The Mission Continues, a national nonprofit organization, and Bad Robot, a Hollywood television and film production company, suggests that Roxley's story is the story of this generation of veterans: Respected for their service and applauded for their sacrifice when they return home, they are also, in some important ways, deeply misunderstood by the people they fight for.

The research, conducted by a bi-partisan team of leading public opinion firms, is the first of its kind to focus on public perceptions of the nearly 2.4 million military service members who are now returning home since volunteering to serve after 9/11. Modeled in part after a similar survey conducted in 1979, it reflects a marked increase in positive public perception of our nation's veterans.

Among the encouraging conclusions, Americans by a significant margin (86 percent) describe veterans as "very valuable assets." The public views veterans as disciplined, willing to work hard, and more involved in their communities than non-veterans. Those surveyed recognize that the military provides an important public service: 86 percent ranked Iraq and Afghanistan veterans as a valuable national asset, on par with firefighters (94 percent) and nurses (91 percent) and over 20 points higher than Supreme Court Justices (64 percent), lawyers (19 percent), politicians (11 percent) and celebrities (5 percent).

The results, however, show those surveyed believe that a majority of veterans return home suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD). PTSD is a genuine concern for post-9/11 veterans. On average 2 out of 10 veterans will experience some level of PTSD. The public, however, tends to believe that almost every veteran walking around on a college campus or interviewing for a job is a bundle of nerves ready to explode.

Additionally, the public incorrectly assumes that veterans have lower levels of education. According to the Department of Veterans Affairs, veterans are actually more likely than their non-veteran peers to have obtained some college education and advanced degrees. Although Roxley completed his degree in management with a minor in finance, he still found it difficult to convince civilian employers that the decision-making and managerial skills he honed as a Marine would transfer to the business world.

The data shows the public believes we need to let our veterans recover and let others lead. Veterans strongly disagree. By a margin of 64 to 31 percent, veterans believe they should play a major role in continuing to lead and serve in their communities. Roxley says, "If I could inspire untested Marines to stay focused through perilous foot patrols in Iraq, I can lead a team back home." He needed a chance to prove it.

Unemployed and struggling to translate his military skills at civilian job fairs in southern California, Roxley discovered The Mission Continues with which he earned a six-month community service fellowship with Habitat for Humanity. Through Roxley's fellowship, his civilian co-workers now understand the important logistical knowledge Roxley brings to their mission. Roxley is similarly learning how to translate his military skills for future employment in the civilian world.


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Roxley Pratt


The Mission Continues and Bad Robot believe that a first step to helping our veterans is to understand the reality of what they are facing upon returning home. Today we are asking every American -- veterans and civilians who want to understand them -- to spend time with one another, listen to one another's stories, and serve side by side in community service projects in your area. Let's be a generation that not only welcomes our veterans home with dignity and pride, but helps them become citizen leaders who continue to serve at home.

 
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01:23 PM on 07/04/2012
Please consider urging Congress to fund medically trained service dogs for Veterans with PTSD.

http://www.change.org/petitions/the-u-s-senate-provide-service-dogs-to-veterans-with-post-traumatic-stress-disorder
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psnyder325
Yep, I'm a Socialist. Deal.
08:02 PM on 07/01/2012
The solution is to provide exiting veterans with a time of transition paid for by we, the people, who they sacrificed to protect. Career coaching, interviewing skills, resume writing, and counseling on the right kinds of jobs would go a very long way. Before dumping these wonderful Americans out on the street to fend for themselves, having a year in which they still get paid their service salary, but are preparing for the transition to civilian life is the LEAST we can do.

Then, we also need to stop defunding Veteran's Hospitals, provide ongoing psychological and social support, and give massive tax breaks for the first year to employers who hire veterans.

This all might be possible if we get Republicans out of office. They TALK about honoring the military, but have consistently voted against decent Veterans' benefits. Another thing that would help is the requirement that any person candidating for a Federal or State office would have served in the military (which, unfortunately, would let me out). How can you vote for war unless you know firsthand the horrors. And service to country where your butt is on the line seems like an intelligent pre-requisite to serving in Congress or the White House, etc. This simple Constitutional change should also cut down on the corruption of politicians....some at least. Veterans are more honorable and honest than the general run of person.
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08:28 PM on 07/01/2012
Anyone who bravely states they are a socialist, has me in their fanclub. I agree completely with your ideology, and if we had ever done this previously, we would saved much heartache. I've been saying--get all the repubs. out, the sooner the better. They've lost their minds, I don't know why and I don't care anymore. They can afford mental healthcare. So many areas must be addressed, but it's wonderful to get started. These soldiers probably could inform us all the best way to avoid the dangers of greed. We should be listening to them. They could make their living just by instructing and speaking to those who have gotten lost on a false sense of life-security, by believing all the s**t they have heard from the joys and wonders of capitalism. The kind that is unchecked and unbalanced by any inclination to think of anyone beyond themselves. They went to defend this nation against tyranny, whether they wanted to or not. Let's make sure they don't suffer tyranny at the hands of the GOP.
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08:39 PM on 07/01/2012
Amen!
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MacTheCat
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06:11 PM on 07/01/2012
I disagree. I believe that the people they fight for--the 1% who profit from these conflicts--understand them all too well.
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Mark MacDonald
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01:11 PM on 07/01/2012
Three cheers for Roxley Pratt. During my twenty years teaching in a public high school, I can say without exception that those students who chose to enlist in the military were among the finest ever to sit in my classroom. All of them wanted to serve their country, the benefits they might receive were a secondary consideration for them. In my own family public service was considered an obligation. When I chose to attend college rather than join the military, my father told me that I had better find some way to serve my country or pay for my education myself. I chose to teach. Today I am retired and as I have many contacts in the construction business, I try to help those former students returning from the war to find jobs. Usually, it is just a phone call. Most of us know a veteran and some of us know people who are hiring. Government should provide more help to veterans, everybody agrees on that, but each of us is a representative of our nation. Reach out and help a veteran. You will not regret it.
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Bladesmith
Hammering out some red hot truth.
12:46 PM on 07/01/2012
Lets get something straight. The American military hasn't worked to protect this country since WW2. We, including myself as a veteran of the Navy and the Army, have served to protect and promote American corporate interests, to steal and control assets for rich and powerful corporations.

We didn't invade Kuwait to help the Kuwaiti people, because our ambassador had already GIVEN Saddam Hussain tacit approval of the US to attack Kuwait. It wasn't until Saddam had TAKEN Kuwait and turned his tanks towards Saudi Arabia (AKA Friends of Bush) that we suddenly had to go into Kuwait.

We veterans are used as disposable corporate commodities, the strong arm of Corporate America. Lots of "support", but many enlisted families are living on welfare, because we don't pay our military a living wage. More and more low ranked enlisted personel HAVE families, because they enlisted because theres so few jobs. (Thanks Republicans.) When these troopers return home, they get a pat on the back and boot in the ass. Theres no jobs. They are preyed upon by these "For Profit" schools who offer much and actually provide nothing.

If we actually valued our military, we'd treat them like it. Theres no reason a soldier (Sailor, airman, marine) who serves 4 years of active duty service, who offered up their life for the country, doesn't deserve the SAME healthcare (At the very least) as a junior congresscritter who also spends 4 years in his position, and does much less for his country.
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psnyder325
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08:06 PM on 07/01/2012
The GOVERNMENT is working to protect the corporate and banker and wealthy interests, sir. The SERVICEPEOPLE are sacrificing to protect America and her citizens. The government is entirely corrupt and evil. The military are mostly honorable and service-oriented. I entirely agree with you that a serviceperson deserves the very best health care and the best of everything else this country can offer. So far as politicians.....I wouldn't give them the sweat off my behind, much less decent medical care. Politicians croaking from dread diseases would actually improve the gene pool.
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Bladesmith
Hammering out some red hot truth.
12:20 PM on 07/02/2012
Don't call me sir, I'm a proud enlisted man. I worked for a living. That said, I understand your point, and agree to a degree. However, we the troopers are the cannon fodder the Rich and powerful USE to achieve their ends and we are used and discarded by them without a second thought.

That has to change.
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Fein
Either everybody counts or nobody does.
12:39 PM on 07/01/2012
Did you sign up to be understood?

The Gov (your employer) needs to make good on what they offered you. And I will support you 100% on that. But if you think you're entitled to anything else from society, you need a reality check ;

The Gov's wars for money helped bring our economy down, and disgrace our nation.
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psnyder325
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08:08 PM on 07/01/2012
It wasn't the fine servicepeople who disgraced the country. The politicians have shamed our country (both sides of the aisle) again and again. Execution of all of 'em would be a good thing....a very good thing. And, yes, I DO think that our servicepeople deserve understanding and thanks from the society they sacrificed and risked all to protect.
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Fein
Either everybody counts or nobody does.
10:15 AM on 07/02/2012
Indeed. The Iraq war was an organized, criminal enterprise.
11:18 AM on 07/01/2012
It is only of late 32 years after the Marines that I feel I can talk about it without triggering the worst pre-conceived ideas that people have about vets and thereby affecting how they perceive and react to. I pretty much never discussed it for a decade but if it came up, I would tell them. The most common and revealing action was shocked surprise... You were a Marine? And I will always say, I still am... They do not understand but other vets eyes do. The successes I have had I can directly attribute to first my family and second the Marines. I learned duty, respect, mission and all the rest has followed. I still will see a subtle difference in how I am treated after they know, part respect, part, a very subtle unconscious fear?, right word?, but it has aspects of that. I think they then know I have functioned well in the world for 32 years since and succeeded and that offsets any kneejerk reaction but it is still there...kinda like you always keep a mean dog in the corner of your eye...just in case. Oh, I have found I generally am not underestimated thereby losing an advantage after they know... Just observations... All subtle but there... I work in govt for the sense of duty. I was successful in the world, but didn't like what I saw in the mirror.
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psnyder325
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08:09 PM on 07/01/2012
Thank you for your service, sir. And some of us who were not permitted to serve (disabilities) DO understand and very much appreciate all you have done and continue to do for us.
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truthupontruth
Grateful for every atom, photon and second
11:07 AM on 07/01/2012
Want to see how vets are treated by the media? Compare the recent medal-returning event at the NATO summit in Chicago. Democracy now reported the event with complete accuracy, allowing the vets to speak their true feelings and opinions and voice their concerns about their experiences. The local ABC affiliate had them saying "I'm sorry" but leaving out the fact that they were apologizing to the people of Iraq and Afghanistan, instead making look like sorry individuals.
The military is a con. The Pat Tillman story exposes the rot at the top. God bless the vets, and keep them safe from all enemies, foreign AND domestic.
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bingo1045
Welcome Home, keep the faith
12:56 PM on 07/01/2012
AMEN
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Sandy Beaches
Wanna exchange your health insurance?
10:32 AM on 07/01/2012
I too am a vet. And it disturbs me that the public has this completely erroneous impression of vets. It might be because of the many articles describing the vets as shattered hulks of what was once functioning humans. And then there were the articles describing vets as men of limited means coming from the less privileged classes. In other words they had no other choice.

Was this theme adopted to help vets or was it perhaps adopted to advance a particular political agenda without thought to the damage being done to these young people? Essentially what I read always seemed to say "Look at what we are doing? Let's stop these senseless political wars!"

I hate war. But I also live in the real world. Sometimes war cannot be avoided. But using these young volunteers as a means to an end is wrong by any scale you care to choose. I do not believe in the philosophy that the end justifies the means no matter how cruel & hurtful.

The damage done by our thoughtless meda can be undone. But will it? I think not.
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bingo1045
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01:05 PM on 07/01/2012
The public awareness of Vets is only from what they see on these 24hr cable news programs. The percentages are actually small for PTSD mainly because they are learning to treat it better and understand the symptoms and mental attitudes of Vets with it. It's been a long hard road for Vets because of the "suck it up and do what it takes" attitude, which is good..but now we know there are limits to it and all are different in how war or war zones affect soldiers. It's been around since war started..before PTSD it was SHELL SHOCK..same thing..all civilians knew what that meant because of all the war movies made since the 40's...and the old soldiers wandering around town with that 1000 yard stare..Vets are like anybody else..they fight..they have families, they are trained to complete missions and not give up..that is something that should be a plus when an employer considers hiring a Vet. That's Male or Female...
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04:44 PM on 07/01/2012
You got it nailed Bingo.
MHT73
words matter
09:14 AM on 07/01/2012
We could start making veterans more employable by making VA health care coverage PRIMARY, and employer's health coverage secondary. Employers who hire veterans pay a hidden penalty (some might even call it a tax) in the cost of covering health care for issues that are service-connected when the insurance companies increase their rates to cover above-average costs.

Any health costs that a veteran or his or her family has that are service-connected belong to all of us, not to the employers who hire these men and women.
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bingo1045
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01:08 PM on 07/01/2012
oh yea..that would help tremendously. If they knew the vet was covered by VA..that would lighten the load for employers..You can get help now, depending on you're income and whether you get a service connected disability, but can still work.
MHT73
words matter
03:27 PM on 07/01/2012
Yes, but the employer's insurance pays first.  (or, the spouse's employer's insurance).  Plus, VA healthcare is not a guarantee, so to stay on budget they have to "prioritize" people.  That means some win, some lose. 
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psnyder325
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08:12 PM on 07/01/2012
Wow. Great idea. That would certainly have helped me when I hired a vet in our (very small) company. We should also forgive payroll taxes to both the vet and the employer for at least a year.
MHT73
words matter
08:55 PM on 07/01/2012
now that's another good idea!  
MHT73
words matter
09:12 AM on 07/01/2012
The critical information in this blog is tucked in at the end, and the admonition to "get to know veterans" falls far short of what's needed.

Here's the critical information:
Unemployed and struggling to translate his military skills at civilian job fairs in southern California, Roxley discovered The Mission Continues with which he earned a six-month community service fellowship with Habitat for Humanity. Through Roxley's fellowship, his civilian co-workers now understand the important logistical knowledge Roxley brings to their mission. Roxley is similarly learning how to translate his military skills for future employment in the civilian world.

The critical point is that veterans need a transitional work experience. It's a buyer's market, and employers aren't interested in job candidates who aren't already doing EXACTLY what they're hiring for. The US should be setting up transitional work for our veterans, and perhaps even subsidizing them in those jobs. This will not only help them re-adjust to civilian life and get recent job skills that are clearly transferrable (as opposed to transferrable, but it takes five minutes of thinking to see it), it will get them a civilian network.

We can't keep saying "thanks and good luck," when we know that that won't work.
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05:59 AM on 07/01/2012
Had a conversation with a woman from Seattle regarding the Viet Nam war as I came home thru SeaTac back in "69". I was in uniform and she became angry when she learned from where I had just returned. The conversation became heated when she yelled at me " I protested that war" to which I responded, "you didn't do a good enough job " She became angrier and asked what I was talking about. I told her, " You didn't do a good enough job because the war is still going on " The look on her face was " PRICELESS"
04:18 AM on 07/01/2012
After viewing the professional landscape, I'd say the biggest difference is veterans aren't in denial about their mental health issues, but instead tend to be aware they have a diagnosis and know what it is.
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02:55 AM on 07/01/2012
Many Americans still confuse emotional problems with insanity.

In that way, depression and PTSD were treated much the same as homosexuals in that they were hit with drugs far heavier than were needed.

The vets' problem is greater because the VA insisted on refusing to treat it unless it manifested itself in the army or within 6 months of discharged.

They continued to abuse us until the VFW and American Legion forced them to admit they were wrong.

Bush compounded the problem when he slashed the VA's budget to feed his buddies some more money. His final effort came when two of his minions slashed the part of the budget by basing their number of homeless vets by ignoring the VA's own statistics.

The Democratic Congress started the process and the Obama administration has continued. That VA is still badly understaffed but significant strides have been made in customer service.

These people care about the vet and they show it.
02:22 AM on 07/01/2012
thanks for your service best of luck in life