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Jackson Williams

Posted: July 30, 2009 04:05 PM

Rachel Maddow's Omission: Don't Ask, Don't Tell, Don't Explain Obama's Thinking


Earlier this week, Alcee Hastings (D-Fla.) introduced -- and then withdrew -- an amendment that would have prevented the military from using money to carry out Don't Ask, Don't Tell, the policy that forces military gays and lesbians to stay in the closet.

Please understand that this wasn't an amendment to repeal Don't Ask (another member is carrying that bill). Rather, Hastings was attempting to attach something to the soon-to-be-passed Defense Appropriations Act. This was always a non-starter, and he bloody well knew it, yet didn't care.

Hastings blamed his decision to withdraw on pressure from colleagues and the White House. On Wednesday night, he appeared on MSNBC to talk about this with Rachel Maddow. Her tease to the segment made clear that White House involvement would be a key part of their chat.

Indeed it was, and Maddow began with a recent clip of President Obama: "My administration is already working with the Pentagon and members of the House and the Senate on how we'll go about ending this policy, which will require an act of Congress." She then looked into the camera: "Why would the White House be putting the kibosh" on this? Fair question.

Unfortunately, it proved to be a hollow one because she never pursued it. Both host and guest bemoaned Team Obama's decision to intervene. As for the reasoning, however, Maddow didn't exactly ask Hastings, and he didn't exactly tell. Allow me.

Neither of them confronted the painfully obvious: We're in the final week of July, with major health care overhaul coming to a precarious head in various committees (or hadn't you noticed?), and a month-long recess just days away. In other words, this is a foolish time to toss Don't Ask into the mix.

Just when the president and congressional Dems have the Blue Dogs quieting down, Hastings would have them howling again.

His goal has merit, so that's not the issue. Don't Ask was always a lousy policy. A huge majority of Americans, 70 percent, want it ended, and it will be. After all, the president himself is on board, even though he hasn't gotten around to it in his first six months. Something about repairing two failed wars, saving the U.S. economy and securing health care reform seems to have demanded his attention.

The point is that when you're already up to your ass in alligators (which Obama was on Day One), it hurts to add more until the current ones get caged. As a Floridian whose district includes Lake Okeechobee, Hastings should at least know that much!

Recently, he sent a June letter to the president about Don't Ask, and apparently didn't receive the cherished coddling from either end of Pennsylvania Avenue. His bruised ego then responded, against all wisdom to the contrary, with the late July, dead-on-arrival amendment to the defense bill.

Hastings can do whatever he wants. Still, he's not being a team player when his party needs unanimity and focus to pass historic health care legislation, the centerpiece of the president's first year in office. That's why the White House deemed this an unwise moment to open contentious debate over Don't Ask.

Maddow's coverage gave us no analysis on any of this. MSNBC: "The Place For Politics." Or not.

 
 
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02:01 AM on 08/03/2009
How quickly we forget that we're currently fighting two wars. You don't know what kind of monkey wrench overturning DADT could cause, and I don't care what tenuous analogy to racial discrimination you draw to justify being nakedly ambitious and reckless with calling for it's repeal....there is a right way and a wrong way to do anything. There isn't a consensus that DADT should be repealed (by the people whose opinion matters) and civilian opinion -- though I don't think people understand the policy or why it was implemented and thus don't have enough room to truly opine on it.
12:55 AM on 08/01/2009
McCaine lost in part because of his stunt of putting his campaigne on hold to deal with the financial crisis in D.C. We need people who can deal with more than one issue at a time. DNDT should have been one ofthe first things Obama did. After all most of America is behind ending it. It wouldn't have taken too much political capital to do so. There is real bipartisan support for it. He has the votes, so what's the deal? I judge people by their actions. It appears to me that gay rights in general are not anything like a priority. I calls 'em as I sees 'em. Just because our nation is falling apart because of conservative politics, doesn't mean the basis of our nation (liberty) needs to be abandoned.That's kinda counter to the point don't you think?
11:42 PM on 07/31/2009
"We're in the final week of July, with major health care overhaul coming to a precarious head in various committees (or hadn't you noticed?)..."

This kind of patronizingly condescending remark, Mr. Williams, makes it obvious that your disdain for Rachel Maddow extends to the readers of your blog post as well.
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Jackson Williams
01:03 AM on 08/01/2009
Other than that, Ms. Frickert, how did you enjoy the play?

I have zero condescension toward Rachel. Love her show, watch it regularly. I was disappointed that her discussion of the Hastings ploy didn't even bother to mention the current political realities, so I wrote about it. Nothing wrong in that.

My condescension is aimed at Hastings himself, or hadn't you noticed? Fact is, many of his Democratic colleagues in the House and Senate -- not to mention those at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue -- feel much stronger about it than I do.

Particularly those who were around in 1988 and '89, when Hastings became only the sixth Federal Judge in U.S. history to be impeached by the House and convicted and removed from office by the Senate. Those who voted to impeach and then remove included John Conyers, Charles Rangel, Charles Dingall, Charles Schumer, Henry Waxman, Barbara Boxer, Harry Reid, Edward Kennedy, John Kerry, Jay Rockefeller, Kent Conrad, Daniel Inouye, and Frank Lautenberg.

Ask them about Alcee's showboating ploy on Don't Ask at the very moment that their hard work on massive health care overhaul is at a tricky precipice.
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05:27 PM on 08/04/2009
Oops. That should read "John Dingell," who represents the 15th district of Michigan, not "Charles Dingall."
03:05 PM on 07/31/2009
why is it a bad time to extend civil rights to a large group of our citizens?
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Berettasskeeter
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06:05 PM on 07/31/2009
What Right has a citizen to serve in the Military? Can you point to a position in the Constitution or Bill or Rights?
Semper fi
07:02 PM on 07/31/2009
But in a constitutional democracy one expects that such a discrimination in law is well-justified, but it isn't (by reasonable standards, not yours).
12:07 AM on 08/01/2009
Since we currently do not have a draft, military service is entirely voluntary. The "Right" to serve is not at question.

Furthermore, since when does one's employer--in the case of military service members it's (ironically enough) the U.S. taxpayer--determine who is and who is not entitled to full civil rights protections?
03:03 PM on 07/31/2009
He could have taken the time he spent with Rick Warren, doing the ABC special, and even a date night, to sign an executive order halting the implementation of DADT. More to the point: The policy could have been ended on day one, and should have been.

All he had do was halt the discharges and investigations while supporting the Tauscher bill. Instead, his administration has fired 326 troops, ignored the Tauscher bill, and argued that DADT is a good policy at the Supreme Court. Speaking of igniting debate...

And, the military has been stonewalling since the 1950s. Its many studies including and following the 1957 Crittenden Report show no justification for any ban on gay troops. We don't need more time to study the issue. We don't need more stonewalling and more firings for homophobia. This is 2009, not 1959.

And, what is at the bottom of all these debates is the scientific fact that homosexuality isn't a disorder. That makes all forms of heterosexism irrational. It means gay people work just as well as hetero people, parent just as well, et cetera. The refusal to acknowledge this basic scientific fact, which has been known since 1956 and consensus since 1973 is a critical factor in American politics. We can see that DADT is just another example of homosexuals being held accountable for the homophobia of others. That's not rational.
03:32 PM on 07/31/2009
I'm with you, E.O. 9981 integrated the military and another E.O. could repeal DADT, which is what should be done if this subject is not broached or once it is, Congress votes against.

It took some realizations before I started showing some leniency on his administration, those being the following: because DADT started in Congress, Congress should repeal it. Also, if Congress repeals it, then its not just Obama taking flack from all the 'phobes, but their elected representatives as well. Most importantly though, having Congress pass it will be like the country as a whole making a decision, not one man, no matter how just and moral that decision may be.
06:49 PM on 07/31/2009
"It took some realizations before I started showing some leniency on his administration,"

Opposition to DADT has nothing to do with being unkind to Obama or members of his administration. What we're talking about is the unnecessary (for homophobia) firing of members of the military.

"...those being the following: because DADT started in Congress, Congress should repeal it."

The Obama administration did not support the Tauscher bill. It argued to the Supreme Court in favor of DADT, saying the policy is good. Obama has had the power from his first minute in office to stop the implementation of DADT in order to allow Congress to repeal the policy without the unnecessary loss of more service members.

By the way, the Pentagon had a secret 1998 handbook policy that said stop loss could be used arbitrarily to retain openly gay troops, in defiance of the DADT policy it helped to force into existence, in defiance of the "unit cohesion" rationale the policy was founded on.
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12:19 PM on 08/02/2009
"Also, if Congress repeals it, then its not just Obama taking flack from all the 'phobes, but their elected representatives as well."

The very idea of Obama taking the heat! What do you think he is, a leader?
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02:32 PM on 07/31/2009
""That's why the White House deemed this an unwise moment to open debate over Don't Ask."

Pray tell, when is the "wise moment" you speak of going to roll around. First it was he's trying to fix the economy, now it's he's trying to get healthcare passed, after the recess you know nothings going to get done on anything until after the midterm elections, and than (if Democrats regain control), the onus will move to education, than energy, and on and on and on. So tell me, when exactly is it going to be politically "kosher" to try end DADT, or DOMA?
02:25 PM on 07/31/2009
The "we're too busy" excuse fails.

1. The Pentagon isn't in charge of health care reform.

2. If it's not health care we're told we have to wait for, it will be something else.

3. Already 326 soldiers have been fired for homophobia by the Obama administration. Every call for delay on stopping DADT is a call for more firings. It's that simple. Anyone who fights for maintaining the policy fights for more firings for homophobia. The question is... why?

Ad hominem against Hastings won't change the fact that he tried to do the right thing. That includes the comments about ego and being a "team player". There is a lot to be said for politicians who stand up for what's right and recognize the difference between the executive branch (which is clearly supporting DADT right now with its court brief and stalling tactics) and the legislative branch. Didn't we learn anything from the Republican Congress during the Bush administration about the drawbacks of such team playing? I, for one, would have welcomed more ego from some Republicans in opposing their party's bad legislation and Bush's bad executive decisions. Oh, that's right, Jeffords did exactly that. I wonder if the same people who are attacking Hastings' character praised Jeffords for his conduct? In any case, it doesn't matter. The firings for homophobia must stop. There is no rational excuse for them.
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Berettasskeeter
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05:36 PM on 07/31/2009
Can you illuminate on the 326 GI's discharged for being afraid of men? I missed it.
Semper fi
06:08 PM on 07/31/2009
Everyone who tries to use 19th century definitions for homophobia is a homophobe in modern usage.
06:40 PM on 07/31/2009
DADT is not a ban on being androphobic.

DADT is an example of homosexuals being held accountable for the homophobia of others.
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02:14 PM on 07/31/2009
Let's talk about your ommission - that Hastings is the only congressman trying to keep his campaign promises and that Obama has yet to complete even one in 6 months. I live in Alcee Hastings predominantly gay district and I hope he continues to represent us the way he has promised. I don't think it's anyone's business to criticize what OUR elected leaders are doing when their own aren't doing anything at all... Why is Hastings the ONLY democratic congressman who has even attempted to keep this promise to gay voters? Why is the President interfering with our process?
02:37 PM on 07/31/2009
Let's also note that, by framing the issue as being about team playing, the paradigm is created that this is about partisanship not about what's good for our country. This isn't like a sporting event where you have the Democrats pitted against the Republicans and what matters is the party not the country.

In reality, recent polling has shown strong majorities in all the categories, including conservatives and church-goers for an immediate end to the firings. That reality contradicts all references to "team playing". The careers of people like Victor Fehrenbach aren't hockey pucks or trophies.

Personally, given that up to 75% of the public (depending upon the poll) and an even more impressive percentage of Democrats want the policy ended, I think Obama and the Democrats in general are squandering political capital by continuing to fire these troops and by supporting, in the case of the former, DADT at the Supreme Court.
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12:26 AM on 08/01/2009
Super, I agree... It's a shame we can't get the same numbers on gay marriage, but hey, one step at a time right? I think there are even some Mormons who are growing increasingly impatient with the LDS church constantly interfering with gay rights and they may need to adjust their funding for such endeavors or continue to lose members. Since gay people are our brothers, sisters, sons, daughters, and sometimes even our parents - these issues do not respect partisan lines drawn in the sand.
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01:40 PM on 07/31/2009
Today it's healthcare to stall doing away with DADT and tommorow it will be something else. 'Be patient ... wait ...Obama's only been in office 4 months, 5 months, 6 months ...' always something when Obama could at least on his own suspend DADT but all we get are excuses for doing nothing. Maybe when Obama';s falling poll numbers slip below 50% he'll come back to us and do something to get our votes and money again. Politicians. They're all full of it.
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KidHollywood
01:29 PM on 07/31/2009
So obvioulsy you are saying that our politcans can't multitask and do more than 2 things at once.

And you are right. Hastings Bill was NOT a repeal but it was a STOP GAP method of halting DADT Discharges until a full repeal could be brought forward, as was Kristen Gillibrands pulled admendment.

With an almost 70 percent in appoval polls IN FAVOR of DADT Repeal its idiotic, and a threat to national security to keep discharing Gay and Lesbian Soilders because of their sexuality. A freeze on dismissals until such time as a repeal can happen would eleviate alot of the tension surrounding this situation. The behavior of the Congress and the White House on this is just creating more.
uhavenoface
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01:00 PM on 07/31/2009
Somebody remind me what happens to a dream deferred?
09:39 PM on 07/31/2009
. . . and promises
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AguynamedWayne
12:22 PM on 07/31/2009
Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait. Everything is always more important than equality for gay Americans. Really easy for you to say, you have all of your rights.
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AguynamedWayne
12:20 PM on 07/31/2009
When Obama needed the gay vote and our gay dollars to get elected, it was all about "the fierce urgency of now" but now that obama is president when it comes to gay equality issues it's all about "the fierce urgency of whenever I get to it" Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait, same old story the LGBT community has been hearing for decades. Everything is always MORE IMPORTANT than our equality.

PATHETIC.
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04:28 PM on 07/31/2009
The "fierce urgency of now" is now a sinking economy, a high unemployment rate, homes in foreclosure, two wars and healthcare reform. While it's true that the LGBT community has been put on hold for decades, no US president for decades has ever stepped into the deep mess that this president has. There are some campaign promises that I too have a vested interest in. But right now, I need our president to concentrate on fixing this mess. But maybe I'm a bit bias since I am one of the unemployed,(after 19 yrs), uninsured , and struggling to pay my mortgage and prevent foreclosure. I'm just saying...
05:28 PM on 07/31/2009
What do you think happens to the soldier losing their jobs because of DADT in this economy? ENDA hasn't been passed until now and as far as I know there's no bill regarding housing non-discrimination.
06:04 AM on 07/31/2009
There are thousands of citizens that are willing to volunteer, and are being denied due to personal lifestyle choice. Why are recruitment goals falling short, on a per month average? Hopefully, America does not have to deal with another major outbreak, somewhere else in the world. What would happen then? Recruitment standards have been lowered to include felons, and drug addicts. Are we saying, it is acceptable for crack-heads and murderers to serve our country, but not homosexuals? I think it is fear, on the military's part. Harry Truman signed an executive order desegregating the armed forces. It may happen in the Obama administration, if a major conflict erupts.
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MSNichols
09:06 AM on 07/31/2009
Your post is well recieved with one exception that I believe is a very important distiction.

Your comment "due to a personal lifestyle choice" where CHOICE is the key word. I believe it is important that language is accurate and being gay is not a choice or a lifestyle.

Otherwise, you are on point!
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Berettasskeeter
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05:46 PM on 07/31/2009
Being a homosexual may Not be a choice, but acting that lifestyle IS a choice. Thanks, but the Courts and the Congress have said that the military has the right and power to adjust the force as required for the best, read BEST, force available. Homosexuality does not lend itself to the best available force!
Semper fi
04:18 AM on 07/31/2009
I think you are right that Obama's thinking here centers on one consideration: politics.

I don’t watch Rachel Maddow or any of the cable “news” hosts enough to comment on her skills. But you can’t be to surprised when a cable “news” star demagogues an issue.

That being said, it’s very naïve to just think Obama is going to take care of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell once he’s done with health care.

The decision to not repeal DADT has nothing specifically to do with the health care debate; nor will it have a specific connection to the next “more important issue”. Inaction on Gay issues is part of a much more general political strategy then counting votes on a specific bill in congress. This is about the red and purple states. The fact is GLBT people are not popular in the swing states. Therefore the DNC and Obama view helping Gay people in any way as bad politics and with politicians winning always trumps doing the right thing. That’s why GLBT people need to cut their losses on the national scene for now and focus on winning state and local elections.

As for Rachel Maddow, she’ll get her chance to take on the administration. Obama’s political people are probably looking to have a very public fight with “The Gays” before the next election. This will be bad for GLBT people and civil rights in general. But it will be good for Obama, the DNC and Rachel Maddow.
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01:47 PM on 07/31/2009
A public fight with Gays isn't goijng to get Obama the money or votes he'll need to get re-elected. As it is, he's lost so many of us already. Doing nothing about DADT and then having Gates get out there with his humanization of DADT which in effect still dehumanizes us and keeps those Gays in the military in the closet ,plus that disgusting court file was enough to show us Obama's true face when it comes to Gay rights.
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aftershock
02:05 PM on 07/31/2009
Add in his threat to veto the hate crimes bill that was attached to defense funding if they didn't take out whatever it was. Unless it's convenient for Pres. Obama, don't expect jack on glbt issues