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Jacob Heilbrunn

Jacob Heilbrunn

Posted: March 23, 2009 11:00 PM

Stop Bashing the Obama Economic Plan

What's Your Reaction?

The chorus of criticism of President Obama's economic plan has been almost deafening, and it isn't coming from Republicans but Democrats. Sure, the Republicans are engaging in scare tactics about tens of trillions in deficits, but it's the liberal naysayers such as New York Times columnist Paul Krugman who've been the real critics.

They should lay off. Krugman's lamentations about Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner's bank rescue plan simply don't add up. Is the plan perfect? No. But it does provide a road map to recovery, one that can be amended in coming weeks and months. Krugman's complaints, by contrast, reek of theology. The notion that a Wall Street cabal has captured Obama and that taxpayers will be on the hook for the bad bank loans rests on the assumption that the economy won't recover. But if the Geithner plan works -- as I suspect it will -- then these objections will seem picayune and pointless.

Perhaps the most perplexing aspect of the liberal attack on the Obama administration is that it betrays a kind of pathological political death-wish among Democrats. When Ronald Reagan was trying to extricate America from recession in his first term, Republicans weren't denouncing him. Democrats, by contrast, seem to have no compunction about flaying their president a few months into his first term as courting failure. No doubt they depict it as concern for his success. But it remains astonishing that a variety of pundits and lawmakers continue to underestimate Obama, who is, by a wide margin, the most shrewd and thoughtful president America has had in decades. Will Obama rescue the economy? Yes, he can. But not if the Democrats try to stop him first.

 
 
 
The chorus of criticism of President Obama's economic plan has been almost deafening, and it isn't coming from Republicans but Democrats. Sure, the Republicans are engaging in scare tactics about tens...
The chorus of criticism of President Obama's economic plan has been almost deafening, and it isn't coming from Republicans but Democrats. Sure, the Republicans are engaging in scare tactics about tens...
 
 
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truthglow
12:02 AM on 03/30/2009
It's not just Krugman. There are MANY Democrats complaining against Obama, and rightfully so! And I am a Democrat complaining against Obama, and I will CONTINUE TO DO SO!!! HE IS ACTING LIKE A REPUBLICAN, SO WHY SHOULDN'T WE CRITICIZE HIM? When he acts like the Democrat we elected and worked so hard for and contributed so much to, and when he fulfills his campaign promises, there wil be no need to criticize him anymore! SIMPLE SOLUTION!!!
10:35 PM on 03/29/2009
Krugman's disappointed that he DIDN'T GET THE JOB of Secy. of the US Treasury.
Boo hoo.
01:09 PM on 03/29/2009
Krugman's objections to the plan -- as well as other distinguished economist's objections center on three things

1) it won't work. They point out that the fundamental cause of this problem was not a credit crisis, but a crisis in valuation. In how and what we valued. We ascribed to debt the characteristics of an asset, and then unleashed a system in which rumor and innuendo assigned enormous value to debt instruments. This is a fundamental failure of the conceptual framework of the system, so rescuing it offers not a solution, but a compounding of the problem.

2) It is not equitable. Using tax payer money to bail out those who took unreasonable risks -- and who retained the financial benefits of incurring those risks -- is neither fair nor wise. The plan is designed to make the ultra-rich whole if it succeeds, but to cost the middle class if it does not.

3) The problems of health care, climate change, energy security, alleviation of poverty, and other pressing needs will be crowded out of the policy agenda and budget priorities imposed by Geithner's plan.

Critiquing this isn't theology, sir, it is an ethical imperative embodied in the core documents of our Republic. Moreover, Krugman et. al. offer viable alternatives, in as much or more detail than Geithner'.

If there is any theology in this debate it lies in Geithner's blind adherence to the uber-Randian free-market dogma that underlies the cause of the problem and the choices he's made.
07:03 AM on 03/29/2009
Krugman has been a strident, relentless noise m,achine; he sounds shrill and angry. he continued rants border on disrespect. He seems to imply that only he has a monopoly on wisdom regarding the economy. Where was he when the fraudsters on Wall Street helped on by the Repugs drove this economy over the cliff? Krugman has become an annoyance as he becomes a favorite of the Right Wing noise machine.
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bighat
Truth as I see it
05:01 AM on 03/27/2009
Mr. Heilbrun, I noticed in your article that you did not think Geithner's plan was perfect. Instead of criticizinng others why did you not just offer the ideas (plans) to make Geithern's plan perfect?
06:06 PM on 03/27/2009
Perhaps he'd find it foolish to offer advice if he doesn't feel well enough invested in the situation to know how to fix it. That, or he's very well invested and is aware that there is no perfect plan, because all the variables aren't accounted for in the equations that govern this.
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bighat
Truth as I see it
06:11 PM on 03/26/2009
My comment is not against Obama, Bush, or the Congress. I am simply one american that is wondering why we are bailing out companies. Just who are these people who are holding the toxic assets. I feel I am being led to believe that if we did not bailout these companies all ordinary americans will lose their jobs, pension plans, 401ks or whatever.

I feel there is more to the story. The stock market is down so I have already lost a great deal of my savings. Once again who is holding the toxic assets. If we do not bailout AIG, CITI will I be worse off. Would not other companies that were better run pick up the slack and hire many of the people that have lost their jobs.

Once again, I ask who is holding these toxic assets. Is it foreign countries, the wealthy, institutions and others who are all big with the campaign contribution.

If these companies were simply allowed to fail would it affect me. Would the market go to zero?

When someone runs a company into the ground and the people we elected to take of our country not only rescue these companies but keep all of the senior managment and no one is fired I feel there is more to the story.

Paul Harvey is gone. Someone please tell me the rest of the story.
01:48 PM on 03/26/2009
Whaat? Oh come on. You are completely misrepresenting Krugman's arguments. If fact, you have dismissed his really quite thoughtful article with so little thought of your own that it makes your whole message crumble.

So judging by your picture you look like a pretty young guy. Why should I trust in your assertion that you "suspect" Geithner's plan will fix the economy without any explanation, and without a thought dismiss the careful explanation of a Nobel Prize winning economist? You have to admit that seems ludicrous on its face.
06:08 PM on 03/27/2009
Nobel Prize winning economist, yes. Whiny, yes. Paul Krugman is hard to like, and the Prize doesn't make his theories better than everyone elses. Not until they work, or the ones he derides are shown to fail. Until that happens, he is a gifted economist, not a prophet.
01:16 PM on 03/29/2009
First, it really doesn't matter whether Krugman is likable; second, Krugman has the advantage of having foreseen this crisis before it happened. That alone dictates that we listen to him.

And Mr. Heilbrunn's critique of Krugman is without factual basis, logical rational or any evidence of professional knowledge.

It is scarily reminiscent of George Bush's "gut instinct" approach to governance. Personally, I've had enough of that.

Give me informed debate by capable people who have expertise in their subject -- likable or not; whiny or not. Let's deal in reason and facts.

And it turns out, Mr. Krugman has both on his side.
06:49 PM on 03/30/2009
No, you have it all wrong. You could even say you have it exactly backwards.

Just because you don't like Krugman does not mean he is wrong. "Too whiny" and "hard to like" might be serious commentary in the conservative sphere, but here you are just talking bullshit. Nobody cares how you feel about Krugman and it is irrelevant. He being "a gifted economist" as you say (and he is), on top of being a Nobel prize laureate, which are both things he earned on merit, give what he has to say far more weight then a fool who writes a derrisive article about him, or some random person who happens to dislike the man.

To wrap up, yes, his Noble Prize does mean his theories are better than most, And the solutions he proposed have actually worked -- over and over and over again. But that goes without saying because he pointed it out in his article. Did you even read Krugman before commenting?
09:19 AM on 03/26/2009
"Will Obama rescue the economy?"

No he won't. No one man is capable of that. He has the opportunity to LEAD the country out of it, but at every turn he's blowing it. Every time he speaks in public, instead of speaking hope and encouragement to us, the ones who WILL rescue the economy, he talks nothing but gloom, despair and blame. And this does only one thing: make the problem worse.

Barack Obama ran on a platform of "hope" and "change." But unfortunately, we seem to have been seduced into placing our hope in him alone, instead of in ourselves. If this economy does turn around, it will be because we the people begin to believe in our own ability and ingenuity again. And sadly, that's not going to happen as long as the president continues to think he is solely responsible for turning it around and continues to try to make himself look good by pointing fingers of blame.
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bighat
Truth as I see it
05:12 AM on 03/27/2009
Course if the President was to appoint an advisor (any capacity) thatgave up hope we might be more likely to give him the benefit of the doubt. But a young President against many old time democrats who all want their share of glory will faill unless his cabinet team comes with as much hope as the President.

As of now,the transparenty, the earmarks in the budget make the President look weak but the people are giving him the benefit of the doubt against Queen Nancy and the Great harry.

But many more gaffes along with secret meeting and 1500 page bill with congress having less than 12 hours to pass the bill before a congressional recess will start to take its toll on the man in charge.

PLUS, Congressman Murtha getting the navy's highest honor quietly instead of a big boom makes people wander what is going on? Is Murtha ashamed of the honor or is the Navy ashamed of giving it to him. Sounds a little like Tammany hall meetings
05:14 PM on 03/25/2009
Come on think about it if you were a high risk individual with alot of bad debt not paying your bills and you asked for a loan, becuase, you wanted to start a business that was going to create 80 jobs and have an income 250000 after you paid your employes. They would tell you were to stick it! Pay your existing stuff get it fixed then give us a call after you show some sort of track record. Then we might consider it. This is what the goverment is now asking of you and you are just ready to give it all up knowing you are going to more than likely lose it all and screw your grandchildren. It wasnt his fault but there is no reason to make it worse there is another way!
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Whinger
I'm Just Me!
05:03 PM on 03/25/2009
What kind of a leader would President Obama be if he changed course at the whim or every "expert" who disagree with his charted course, if he did, that would generate instability because big business would see him as a weak leader and lose all confidence in his ability to repair the economy!

None of these "experts" forewarned of this financial disaster coming, and now they claim to see with blinding 20/20 vision. I for one have zero confidence in their advice or criticisms!

Every American needs to get behind the administration and work to achieve the common objective of cleaning up this inherited mess and getting America back to work, despite the efforts of those unpatriotic citizens who publicly and privately want America to fail.
06:31 PM on 03/25/2009
Nobody wants America to fail, but many of us want Socialism in America to fail. You ask what kind of leader the persident would be if he listened, he'd be better informed that's what kind of president he'd be. He needs to discard his latent socialist tendacies. Even the EU thinks he's off his rocker with this wild spending plan, and they should know. They're liberal and proud of it, and have supported democratic socialism for years. Even so they know spening as deeply as he plans will cause us to go bankrupt. When that happens economies all over the free world will collapse. That's why they're trying to convince him to stop drinking the koolaid he's mixed. You have a right to your opinion, and I'd fight to the death to defend that right, but this plan is madness. He couldn't hurt us more if he were trying.
10:57 PM on 03/25/2009
STOP DRINKING THE KOOL-AID!
We do NOT have Socialism in America.
We have SOCIALISM FOR THE REPUBLICAN GREEDY NANNY STATE
FOR THE RICH in America.

THAT'S who has benefited from socialism in America.

For all others, it's "save your own damn arse, people".
06:10 PM on 03/27/2009
This is really starting to annoy me. I strongly believe close to no Americans are even remotely aware of what socialism is. Trust me, you don't have it. Nowhere close. You're still faar, far to the right in the world's eyes.
09:23 AM on 03/26/2009
"None of these "experts" forewarned of this financial disaster coming"

Were you born yesterday? Allen Greenspan was talking "irrational exuberance" while Bill Clinton was still president!
04:42 PM on 03/25/2009
I feel that almost every one of the ideas Obama's administration have put forward are based in sound fundamental well thought out longterm policies which will probably save our nation from complete economic collapse in the long run. The largest middle class tax cut in history, almost completely ignored by the media, along with sound energy policies, tax policies, and long term spending and deficit reduction goals . Obama's budget is based in reality, not in the fantasy of the Bush administrations cut taxes on the rich and triple defense spending creating the worst possible combination of government spending policies. The same people who created most of the carnage within the economy are the ones squawking the loudest about the administration. Follow the money, special interest has paid and will continue to pay a lot of the blue dogs bills {and everyone in congress besides a select few}. The Republicans are just hopeless and pathetic, bitch, moan, crying about policies that are being put into place to offset the disaster of the Rethuglican conservative free for all that the country has just experienced. If he gets the support of his own party the possibilities for this president to not only fix the economy but to put America back on track in the world community is almost unlimited. Special interest money which has destroyed the process of governing for years is the only thing stopping us from government for the people.
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anelder
04:01 PM on 03/25/2009
Pretty soon, if things continue, I'm going to have to conclude that Ms. Huffington, herself, is part of the extremis on the left. As such it will necessary, for me, to relegate her to that pile excesses who continuously vote for all or nothing.
At one time had Lou Dobbs in my list of advisors but when Johnnie one note couldn't get off the negative wagon he had to go.

Plenty of time to hang Obama out to dry, not now. Since I don't have to be the first in line to have noted something, I'm thinking Ms. H. and others have that need, I'll allow time to pass while I stick with the guy I have the most faith in. Yup, that word again, faith. The cherry on the cake however is my trust in this man who is fed by an intellectual honesty and wisdom. No God, but nevertheless a gift from on high.
03:25 PM on 03/25/2009
Correct!!! Time to stop bashing Barak - better to proclaim our belief in the president so that all the world can see we are united behind him. I'll start by proclaiming why I support Barak!

I support Barak because:
- He admits his plans aren't perfect, and that's OK.
- Oil company profits of 4% per gallon are obscene but 20% taxes per gallon by the government isn't.
- The government will do a better job of spending my money than I do.
- When we pull out of Iraq the bad guys will stop trying to kill us because they'll see that we're good people if we'll just leave.
- I don't believe in private gun ownership and I know local police are all anyone needs for protection.
- I believe that people who can't tell us if it will rain tomorrow can predict that our polar ice caps will disappear in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius.
- I'm not concerned about the slaughter of babies as long as we stop killing death row inmates.
- I believe that business shouldn't be allowed to pay executives as much as ballplayers and actors, and shoudn't be allowed to make large profits. Business should give profits and excessive executive pay to government for redistribution.
- Barak should appoint judges who interpret the constitution to suit fringe-kooks who're unable to gain voter approval of their liberal agendas.
- I don't wish to consider obvious truth on any topic
04:26 PM on 03/25/2009
Liberal this Liberal that, give us a break, those are talking points sir, not facts, they are short-sighted, cynical unfounded, untruths about the nature of this president, and the agenda that he ran for the Presidency on. All the talkig points above are your party's, not America's you obstructionists are sitting here with yours hands out like America by mistake voted your agenda out of office on Nov 4th, this is a Democracy Sir, Reagan was not given his office through manifest destiny, this country owes your party's failed policies induendo, fear-mongering, race-baiting, and classism absolutely nothing, where's the BEEF, where is your alternatives, where are your solutions? Oh you have none. Only the cheap and misguided cynicism pandered off as reason, the party of "so-called" ideas is brain dead, your party has a one track mind and approach to solving any problem, cripple government with unfounded cynicism while your out of power, and business as usual once your in power, your party created this mess with the idiotic deregulation mantra, now this administration is fixing it, and medicine never tasted like candy. Get it where you fix in or opt out, this President is not bided to your ideology and neither is the country, wake-up, stand-up, and get busy with the hard work of creating alternatives, if you have a solution.
05:00 PM on 03/25/2009
The dittoheads will never wakeup, when all your information comes from The Rethuglican spin doctors, especially the part about the current 50 different messes the new administration has to clean up from the Bush/thugs that the spindoctors somehow blame ON the new administration. The lack of any intellect bye the people buying this crap because then they would have to admit THEY HAVE BEEN WRONG and have damn near destroyed the country never ceases to amaze me. Do us a favor go over on the Fix news site so you guys can have your usual circle jerk, head in the sand, oversimpified for simpletons news cast.
09:33 AM on 03/26/2009
"I don't believe in private gun ownership and I know local police are all anyone needs for protection."

Have you seen the new lie-campaign alleging that 80% of all guns in the hands of Mexican drug cartels were purchased in the United States? That should make it easier for Democrats to further trash the 2nd amendment.

And they called Clinton "Slick."
03:03 PM on 03/25/2009
Watching last night's press conference I was left with the distinct impression that Obama, like a chess grand master, is thinking 5 moves ahead and will checkmate the complaining political pundits, who stuck on the current move, simply have no idea what is about to befell them.

This is no more than a "gut feeling" but this article puts some reality onto it. I just hope we are both right.
02:35 PM on 03/25/2009
Do you expect that a proposed budget that will result in a tripling of the national debt and deficits as far as the eye can see and a fundamental restructuring of our republic will be met with acquiesence? One would hope not. I think the fact that some Dems are even objecting to President Prompty's budget is a signal that it's not based in reality.
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anelder
04:12 PM on 03/25/2009
I really doubt that. I don't attribute a greater intellectual wisdom to these 'bluedog' dems. that to Obama. . Democrats being conservative - no problem - but being Conservative before they are democrats puts them into an entirely different category. This is the perfect example of democrats shooting themselves in the foot. Not a republican problem. Their is a time for supporting their ideology, again something the republicans know well. I fear these men will be the reason the democrats will not sustain their control in the next election.
The voters, not seeing what the dems can accomplish will reasonably assume a less fractured adminsitration is a better one.

All this goes for much of the media - liberal side - also.
05:03 PM on 03/25/2009
Follow the money, they are bowing to their money Gods, the lobbyists and special interest. Obama is trying to break this culture of corruption but as long as the PAC money keeps rolling in he will be in for a fight, even with members of his own party.