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Jacob M. Appel

Jacob M. Appel

Posted: October 11, 2009 03:33 PM

Abortion: A Healthy Choice

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Some opponents of reproductive choice, unable to deter women from electing to terminate unwanted pregnancies through moral suasion, have increasingly attempted to scare women away from abortion with specious claims that the procedure is unsafe. In Texas, the Orwellian-named "Woman's Right to Know Act" requires abortion providers to give patients a misleading booklet that suggests a connection between abortion and breast cancer, although the American Cancer Society strongly denies such a link. West Virginia's "informed consent" statute requires that women be told that abortions may lead to an increased risk of eating disorders, suicidal ideation, sexual dysfunction and drug abuse, claims not recognized by the American Psychiatric Association or any leading authorities in the field. Even if these assertions were true -- and years of study have established categorically that they are not -- this data would obscure the larger truth regarding abortion and women's health. What abortion opponents do not want people to know is that decades of evidence prove that abortion is convincingly far safer for maternal health than bringing a fetus to term. Often exponentially so. In fact, if the roughly fifty million abortions that have occurred in the United States since Roe v. Wade had all ended in full-term deliveries, approximately five hundred additional women would have died during childbirth.

The safety disparity between childbearing and abortion is quite staggering. According to the National Center for Health Statistics, the likelihood of an American woman dying in childbirth is approximately 1 in 7,500. In contrast, a 2004 study published in Obstetrics and Gynecology found the risk of dying during an abortion in the first eight weeks of pregnancy, when the majority of terminations take place, to be roughly 1 in 1,000,000. That's safer than a round-trip flight on a commercial aircraft. Even abortions performed at greater than 21 weeks (1.1% of all abortions) have a mortality of 1 in 11,000 -- far lower than live delivery. If one measures only immediate morbidity and mortality, there is no way to spin these numbers to suggest that abortion is less safe than giving birth.

Abortion opponents have attempted to link the procedure with long-term health risks, but here again the scientific evidence undermines their claims. For example, numerous, well-constructed studies have demonstrated no independent link between breast cancer and induced abortions. Most notably, a Harvard University analysis of the Nurses' Health Study looked at 105,716 women over ten years and concluded that abortions did not correlate with future cancer diagnoses. To believe otherwise is no more grounded in evidence that to believe that breast cancer is caused by power lines, or that the polio vaccine impedes virility, or that fluorinated drinking water triggers autism. These are factual questions, not values judgments. Whether or not abortion causes cancer is not a subject for philosophical debate, it is an empirical phenomenon with a correct answer. Rejecting that answer without hard data is no more reasonable than rejecting the heliocentric model of the universe. As the late Senator Pat Moynihan warned us: "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact."

So why does this myth persist? The reality is that nulliparity may be related to an increase in breast cancer, so women who abort and never have another child may lose the protective effect that pregnancy has on estrogen levels and breast tissue. However, the overwhelming majority of women who terminate pregnancies eventually to go on to become biological mothers, recovering much if not all of this protective effect. Even the most zealous advocates of the abortion-breast cancer hypothesis, such as born-again-Christian endocrinologist Joel Brind, have been able to show only a minimal correlation between breast cancer and abortion -- even with an agenda that has likely compromised the power of their research. What is most remarkable in this entire debate, of course, is that some abortion opponents seem to want abortion to cause breast cancer or other life threatening illnesses. Data that shows no such risk apparently disappoints them. How devastating for them must be the larger reality that terminating pregnancies actually reduces female mortality rates.

A recent Turkish study, which may gain media traction in coming days, does claim to have found a statistical link between induced abortion and cancer. In their conclusion, the authors posit that the difference between their data and that of other researchers is a yet-unknown characteristic distinctive to Turkish females. A far simpler explanation may suffice. Statistical noise. If you conduct most studies often enough, eventually you will produce a statistical outlier whose results, taking alone, seem to prove your case. In a billion small-scale studies of tobacco smokers, for example, a few might actually demonstrate that smoking is beneficial to the lungs. This does not prove that we should all take up smoking, but that investigators should quit asking the same question over and over again in an effort to muddy the results.

Needless to say, I have read all of the major studies on abortion and women's health. I sincerely wonder if the anti-abortion activists at Operation Rescue have done so. The glory of modern science is that every one of these papers is available at any major research library, and most are accessible on line, so those who sincerely care about the question can judge the scientific evidence for themselves.

The shell game perpetrated by abortions opponents is quite clever. They focus public attention on a comparison between abortion and baseline health, rather than between abortion and pregnancy. Even if some women do suffer post-abortion depression, which anecdotally may be the case, this does not mean that the phenomenon is nearly as widespread or as severe as the well-documented misery of postpartum depression. Postpartum psychosis destroys women's lives and tears apart families; post-abortion psychosis is largely undocumented. Even the risk of multiple terminations to long-term reproductive abilities may be over-hyped. Memoirist Irene Villar's brilliant account of her fifteen abortions, Impossible Motherhood, which concludes with the birth of her two healthy children, should dispel the canard that a few elective abortions will render women barren. That is simply not the case.

Challengers to so-called "informed consent" statues do not need to rest their claims of unconstitutionality on the grounds that these laws interfere with the free speech rights of physicians and the privacy rights of patients. The laws fail the far more rudimentary "rational basis" standard of the Fourteen Amendment because they provide women with information so selective that it leaves any reasonable layperson with a false impression of the relative safety of abortion and childbirth. I oppose such compulsory pre-abortion counseling, no matter what its content. Obstetricians don't need ideologues telling them how to practice medicine or what to tell their patients. However, if state legislatures sincerely want women to have all the facts, then these same mandatory "informational" pamphlets should inform women that, by not choosing an abortion, they are placing their lives at greater risk.

Courts have been reluctant to recognize the significance of this data. If the risk of childbirth is exponentially higher than that of abortion, then all elective abortions are necessary for maternal life and health. From a purely medical standpoint, who wouldn't choose a death rate of 1 in 1,000,000 over 1 in 7,500? Moreover, even if a long-term health risk from abortion ever were established, one would be comparing sudden death in one's childbearing years to affliction with a treatable (and even curable) illness many years later. I suspect that, all other factors being equal, most people would choose the latter. (I am also hopeful that we will eradicate breast cancer entirely, sooner rather than later.) Women are often given the false impression that carrying an unwanted fetus to term, and placing the baby up for adoption, is a relatively safe choice. That depends upon one's understanding of safety. If one is willing to accept the 1 in 11,000 of dying in childbirth to bring happiness to a total stranger, why not donate a kidney, a procedure with a mortality risk of 1 in 3,000, and save a stranger's life?

The significant risks of childbirth may well be worth enduring for the rich joys of motherhood. I am grateful to my own mother for making such a tradeoff. We should all be proud of the brave women who choose to put their lives on the line in our maternity wards. What is harder for me to understand is why anyone would take such risks in order to deliver a baby that they do not want. That should be a woman's choice too, of course. But if you're going to put your own well-being at risk, you should certainly know all the risks.

 
 
 
 
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ellawensmom
12:14 PM on 10/13/2009
What i always find interesting are the arguments about how, "Oh, would you have aborted Beethoven just because he was deaf, etc.?" let me bring you Charles Manson. Fromw hat I understand, his mother was a prostitute. He had a HORRIFIC childhood, and grew up to be who he is. If his mother had been responsible and thought, "Hey, bringing a baby into this lifestyle just really isn't a good idea..." If she'd had an abortion, there would be alot more people whose lives wouldn't have been taken away or ruined forever. I'm not saying that every child born poor or into debilitating circumstances ends up bad, but the fact is that the majority do.
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powercosmic
The Anti-Christ
11:59 PM on 10/12/2009
Folks! Hey, all you Anti-Freedom "pro-lifers"

Stop calling the unborn fetuses and zygotes "a baby" or "a child"

They're not Babies and they're not Children, just getting yourselves emotionally worked up.

Also there are very very few late term abortions and those are not done for frivolous reasons at the drop of a hat, there is only clinic in the entire US for these.

First remember this point: If you are against abortion, GREAT! You don't ever have to get one.

Second point: Whether or not anyone else gets one is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

All Americans ARE NOT Christian. We don't share your "morals" we don't believe in morality the same way you do.

To those of us who are NOT DELUDED by bronze-age religious dogma we see morality as those things that we don't want done to us. I don't care if ANYONE else gets an abortion and its not my business. Its also not the role of gov't to be involved either.

I'd much rather that the gov't spend its time REGULATING Banks and Wall Street so those bozos don't steal from me.

The religious right claims to care because they want political influence, nothing more.
09:56 AM on 10/13/2009
I think that this is an unfair argument to make. Living in a very liberal community, almost everyone I know is pro choice. Yet when any of them get pregnant, as soon as they do, they refer to it as their child, or their baby, not their zygote or their embryo or their fetus. They say "oh, I can't drink because of the baby." not "I can't drink because of the fetus."

Have you never known any pregnant women ever or something? I don't understand how anyone can honestly think only conservatives refer to fetuses as babies.
10:08 AM on 10/13/2009
unless of course, you want to start saying that us liberals ALSO can no longer refer to our unborn fetuses as babies. Maybe impose fines on women, their partners, friends families, and health care workers caught using the term 'baby' when refering to their pregnancies?

If that's your argument, well, I think it's a silly one, but at least not hypocritical. It is ridiculous to say that we can refer to them as babies, but conservatives can't for no other reason than we have differing ideology.
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happycat
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01:18 PM on 10/13/2009
Thank you Black Cat. I too am pro-choice. When I was pregnant with my children, they were my babies. I had a emotional connection to them immediately. When I had a miscarriage, I grieved the loss of my baby. It wasn't just a fetus to me.
04:22 PM on 10/13/2009
Where laws and taxes are involved it is everyone's business. If you don't like banks, don't use them. It is none of your business. Oh! On second thought, laws, regulations, etc. are involved, so it is your business. See how it works?
07:10 PM on 10/12/2009
Where did you learn to do math? If you're saying that the chance of dying in live childbirth is 1 in 7,500, and you have an additional 50 million live births because of no abortion, 50 million more women running a 1 in 7,500 chance of dying - thats 6,667 deaths, versus 50 or 6,617 additional deaths not 500.

But to extrapolate that and say therefore abortion is the preferable medical choice based on risk completely trivializes the significance of the choice, and the significance of the right to make that choice.

This article is just badly written overall.
08:21 PM on 10/12/2009
Agreed. The author actually has some important information but it is presented from a very
reductionist perspective and the title is just so wrong on so many levels. If we are talking
about risk, then why not factor in one of the biggest risks most of us casually take every day --
with ourselves, with our pregnant or nonpregnant bellies, with our kids or our friends or our
friends' kids -- why not discuss driving which is a much higher risk activity than pregnancy ?
been2there
Facts have a liberal bias.
12:56 AM on 10/13/2009
I think the author used the reductionist reasoning to mimic that of anti-choice talking heads. Her point is that if we accept reductionist reasoning, then all pregnancy is more dangerous than an abortion--and that is true.
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HPdevotee
06:44 PM on 10/12/2009
Thank you for this article! Amid all the screamers and fanatics are facts that are maliciously being ignored...otherwise, the anti-choicers would have to concede that a woman's health is of minor concern to them.

The stunningly contemptible aspect of this is that this medical information has been known for over a decade:

Statement of the court (majority decision), Hope Clinic v. Ryan, U.S. District Court, Northern District of Illinois (Eastern Division), 995 F. Supp. 847; 1998 U.S. Dist.

"Abortion is one of the safest surgical procedures in terms of mortality and morbidity, and it is much safer than continuing the pregnancy through childbirth. In the first trimester of pregnancy, when most abortions are performed, a woman is twenty times more likely to die from continuing the pregnancy through childbirth than from a first-trimester abortion. At any stage of pregnancy, a woman is ten times more likely to die from continuing the pregnancy through childbirth than from an abortion."

So, I think it is safe to assume that 'information' is NOT what the anti-choice want to peddle but rather fear, through distortions and out-right lies...again, in the attempt to nullifying a woman's right to truly make an informed decision and exercise sovereignty over her own body. Abortion is here to stay ( 8 yrs. of the Bush theocracy was unable to reverse it) and the anti-choicers tactics have now turned into a criminal enterprise that begs for DOJ intervention.
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ConfuciusSay-
Aglets: their purpose is sinister.
06:23 PM on 10/12/2009
This article is entirely written as if the unborn had no life to consider. While true that abortion procedures are safer than childbirth procedures for the mother, the converse is much more loudly true for the babies - every abortion is fatal.
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Kassandra
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06:46 PM on 10/12/2009
Go have a baby then, Mr. MAN
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HPdevotee
08:04 PM on 10/12/2009
I disagree.

*This article is written to expose and offer proof that the anti-choicers are lying to women and trying (and in some cases, succeeding) to get their bogus medical claims written into laws. This article puts the focus where it lawfully should be .. with the facts about women's health. Pregnancy is first and foremost a medical condition and thus abortion is protected under the privacy clause of the constitution.

*And while you may want to inflame the issue with the word 'babies' .. you are mistaken, babies are issued birth certificates. Obviously, the laws and many (if not the majority) know the science of potential vs actualized.
04:04 PM on 10/12/2009
So, let me get this straight. You would kill 50 million to save five hundred, and you think that is a rational trade-off?

I suppose that if nobody had children at all, the rate of death in childbirth would be zero.
04:20 PM on 10/12/2009
500 lives saved, 50,000,000 lives destroyed. That makes nonsense.
In my hospital the deaths from labor related complications, placenta previa or abruptio or cardiac sudden death are rarely seen (in the past 5 years 2 deaths). The deaths associated with out patient visits from only one so-called woman's health-care facility out number all annual labor related deaths statewide at just under 37 to 1. That is annually more women die from "safe and rare" abortions than from child birth.
been2there
Facts have a liberal bias.
12:58 AM on 10/13/2009
In that case, maybe we should make abortion safer, since it is unlikely to become more rare.
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ellawensmom
12:05 PM on 10/13/2009
If it were up to me, I'd have everybody sterilized at birth. Then they could have it reversed later if they prove rational.
03:24 PM on 10/12/2009
Can we really say it is better to Kill 50 Million in order to save 500? If I kill a woman who is 3 months pregnant I can get charged with double homicide but if I have an abortion it isn't considered murder? A society that kills its unborn without afterthought isn't too far behind terminating its frail and elderly. I fear we might be on the precipice of that as well.
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04:02 PM on 10/12/2009
You missed the point of the article and then entire pro-choice world-view. For the former... Contrary to the information doctors in some states are forced to provide to their patients, abortion is far safer than childbirth. For the latter, control of a woman's body belongs to the woman. If you kill her fetus against her will, you are guilty of murder.

IMHO, a society that ceases to care about its children - health care, pollution, nutrition, education, putting them to death, or sending them off to die - isn't far behind terminating its frail and elderly. Don't forget that the conservatives were dead set against Medicare.
04:20 PM on 10/12/2009
I am not speaking against health medicare, but that said - failing to ride to someone's rescue is not the same thing as murdering them. If it were, we would all be murderers, as people are dying all over the world, of hunger and disease and all kinds of things.
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ellawensmom
12:07 PM on 10/13/2009
Abortion has been legal for awhile here, and in other countries, and i haven't heard anyone suggesting that we begin killing people over a certain age, or children with disabilities. In fact, it's the people who support a woman's legal right to choose who usually have FAR more compassion that the rabid anti-choicers.
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iconoclast6
This is my BOOM stick!
03:03 PM on 10/12/2009
Here's how these people think. This is, unfortunately, not a joke and I'm not making it up.

A few years back, a βiβle-thumping acquaintance told me that she did not believe aβorτion should be legal even to save the woman's life because, and I quote, "those women just don't got the Fαith to let G0d heal them! It's their own fault!"

This is what we're up against.
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propitiousmoment
the journey is the destination....
02:55 PM on 10/12/2009
Probably should have chosen a different title. It sounds like you are promoting abortion the same way you would promote a diet heavy in fruits and vegetables. I'm glad the article itself does not bear out that first impression.
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powercosmic
The Anti-Christ
02:31 PM on 10/12/2009
Ah YES!

The great distraction and favorite "Wedge Issue" of the GOP.

Well, Abo.rtion is legal and it should remain that way because morality can not be legislated.

Any Woman should have the rights to her own reproductive system and no one can say that bringing a poor innocent child into the world is good for the baby or the mother. Because very often it is NOT good for either.

It is the agenda of those on the right to pursue this issue solely as a way of riling up the Bible thumping crowd, when oddly enough the Bible doesn't even mention abo.r.tion.

This riling up of the Bible thumpers is to get them on the side of GOP who really only cares about deregulation and lowering taxes for the wealthy. And what better a way to do that then to encumber millions of women with unwanted children, whom they will have to put into low-cost Church sponsored Day Care where that child will be indoctrinated with Chr.istian dogma.
03:15 PM on 10/12/2009
Really? Morality can't be legislated? Then why is murder illegal? Why is stealing illegal? Why is beating someone up illegal?

Pro-choicers love to talk about the debate in terms of the generalities but you guys rarely like to get into the logistics of abortion. Yes, abortion in the 1st trimester should be unequivacably allowed for anyone age 18 and older but what about under 18? Are you then against parental consent? Would you like your 13 year old to have an abortion, potentially psychologically devastating and with possible physical side effects without you knowing? What about abortions done for women with no health problems with healthy babies after 24 weeks when a baby can possibly live outside the womb with assistance? Would you kill a baby that could live on its own and be adopted at that time? It isn't a matter of choice anymore, that is decided. It is to what realm of degradation of humanity we will accept in the details of the abortion debate.
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04:21 PM on 10/12/2009
Skipping the morality cannot be legislated discussion, pro-choicers always get into the logistics. Insurance, the point where the operation switches to save-the-life/health-of-the-mother, minors, parental notification, alternatives, impact on the patient, you name it. The anti-abortion (some are pro-life also) people are more nuanced and range from contraception is abortion to your point of view.

Even the most rabid pro-abortionist (if such a person actually exists), draws the line when a fetus is viable except to protect the life and health of the mother.

I am not a parent so I cannot answer your question about a 13-year old daughter from my gut only my head. If I am such a failure as a parent that my child would not confide in me, I would hope she would consult someone she trusts or her doctor begins the process to get her a Guardian ad Litem to watch out for her best interests.
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powercosmic
The Anti-Christ
05:55 PM on 10/12/2009
Murder isn't a MORALITY issue.

You right-wing Ch.ristians can't seem to distinguish between MORALITY and SECURITY.

Murder is a basic SECURITY issue, without security a society cannot function.

Also, Murder is basically contrary to our survival as a species, we all do better when we stick TOGETHER as a society. Ape troupes in the wild don't allow MURDER among themselves.

What YOU call Morality (ie. belief in Je.sus) is just a mental construct of little practical value.
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CJWebber
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03:30 PM on 10/12/2009
'...morality cannot be legislated.'

Not true, all sorts of legislation exists to prevent immoral behaviour. However, abortion is not in that category; abortion is not a question of morals. Abortion is legal, whether some people like it or not.
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powercosmic
The Anti-Christ
11:59 AM on 10/13/2009
Wrong. First what are morals?

Morality is just a complex psychologocal construct that we use to explain things that are offensive to our inherent sense of personal and societal survival.

In bronze-age religions like Jud.aism morality takes on a new attribute that it comes from god, Chris.tianity continues this trend.

But this doesn't mean that Morality exists. "Morality" in some lost Amazonian tribe would be very different from ours but it would serve the same instinctual purpose which is to keep the tribe from becoming extinct.

See, for humans to survive requires a team, a tribe. We do better when we look out for each other.
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Kassandra
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12:42 PM on 10/12/2009
The "pro-life" elements don't fool me. They don't give a hoot about "life" this is all about keeping men's thumbs on wimmin's lives..the Christian/montheistic way.

Cleverly disguised as a caring movement, they know that the more children wimmin have, the less chance she will #1- be able to escape her husband #2 - do anything meaningful with her life.
She will always remain poor, esp if the father abandons her and her children, love them or not, and she is left having to depend on Social Services which barely exist anymore.

Here we are with a world grossly overpopulated by human beings; the planet is groaning under our weight and men just want to force wimmin to have more and more of "their" babies they won't take care of. PAH!
It's all about control of wimmin's bodies and minds, never believe anything else.
01:43 PM on 10/12/2009
Kassandra just outstanding. Most refreshing to read your comments. Hypocrisy abounds with the right. This is same crowd who after screaming about abortion, pick up their hunting rifles and wound and murder innocent animals - much the same way they scream about "those foreigners" and sign up as ever cheerful cannon fodder. Collective IQ's of - well Neanderthal.
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powercosmic
The Anti-Christ
02:33 PM on 10/12/2009
Fanned! Ditto! Bravo!

You are correct!
mamalisa38
I love you Thomas and I miss you like crazy RIP
12:27 PM on 10/12/2009
What I find odd is that many of these pro-lifers also support the death penalty
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01:46 PM on 10/12/2009
And war.
02:41 PM on 10/12/2009
That's an easy one. Babies are innocent beings with no choice about coming into the world. People who kill other people are a danger and threat to society and jail is just too good for them. With judicial activism, you also have no way of knowing if a crazy judge will let a crazy person out on parole (I know, my dad has worked in Corrections for 30 years now) and kill someone else. If they're dead, they can't hurt anybody and they aren't a drain on the economic resources of society. At least if you bring a baby into the world there is a chance that baby may do something great for humanity. There is no such promise from convicted felons.
04:08 PM on 10/12/2009
Well spoken. It never ceases to amaze how liberals can defend the killing of the innocent while wishing to spare the heinously guilty. It is certainly possible for an adult to deserve to die, but how can a baby possibly deserve to die? Fanned and faved.
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04:36 PM on 10/12/2009
First, an embryo is not a baby.

Second, what if the person killed by the State is an innocent person like the child?

Third, what if the innocent child is the product of rabidly anti-social parents who will "probably" grow up to be a killer? Just as likely as doing something great.

Fourth, some convicted felons have examined their lives and become a force for "good".
11:20 AM on 10/12/2009
At a certain point the undeniable truth is that abortion crushes bones, tears muscles and organs and stops a beating human heart. That creates a mortality rate of 100%. Does not seem to be a horror (not procedure) that a child being "unwanted" or inconvenient should qualify for.
11:33 AM on 10/12/2009
At a certain point, bombing innocent people to 'win them over' actually kills them.

So, unless you are totally opposed to all wars, always, you are a hypocrite.

In either case, the state has and retains the right to make a judegment call about who lives or dies. Our United States, along with all other countries, makes life/death decisions over and over.

The "right to abortion" really amounts to the state delegating some level of choice to the individual. Nevertheless, the state really retains the right to make that decision (it can always revoke the individual right, as it sees fit).

So, unlees you are a total pacifist, you are a hypocrite. Many more innocent humans have been killed by 'just' wars than will ever be killed through abortion. So, why aren't you in the streets screaming about unjust war?
12:14 PM on 10/12/2009
I am not a total pacifist so if that makes me a hypocrite in your eyes so be it. I am also not against all wars. WWII comes to mine. That necessary war (in my hypocritical thinking) was a lesser evil. Slaughtering an innocent, defenseless child because of being unwanted or in some way is inconvenient (as opposed to other factors) seems to me to be an inhuman trade-off. I still have a photo from the Phila. Daily News from the 70's that showes a trash can with a pile of aborted children showing easily identified arms, legs, fingers, and heads. Reminded me of photos of Nazi camps. A profound reality that you would not find printed today. Why? So excuse my feelings for those that have the least ability to fight back and should (in my hypocritical thinking) be protected by the one person who you would think would do so. The mother.
02:43 PM on 10/12/2009
How about we solve problems like this the democratic way? After 9/11 and every year after, we should be able to vote on the war. We should have a vote on if abortion should be allowed and, if yes, to what extent. Then radical crazies that get into office, right (who would do away with all abortion) and left (who say yes even to 3rd trimester abortion) couldn't dominate the laws that actually affect real people in real life.
mamalisa38
I love you Thomas and I miss you like crazy RIP
12:26 PM on 10/12/2009
The death penalty also creates a mortality rate of 100%, do you support that?
01:55 PM on 10/12/2009
The answer is no. But comparing adult killers to babies is ridiculous.
02:45 PM on 10/12/2009
Yes, if someone raped and killed my child I would want them gone from this earth and would cheerfully throw the switch or push the syringe into place on the person who did it. Then, I am 100% guaranteed they could never hurt another human being in jail or outside of it.
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ellawensmom
10:20 AM on 10/12/2009
The anti-choice people are fond of telling us how many abortions there are every year, but I ask, who are the women aborting these babies? The answer is that they are us. Women from all walks of life, your mothers, sisters, girlfriends, daughters, wives, teachers, bankers, students, cashiers...The list goes on and it is all inclusive. Very few women ever tell if they have an abortion. It is often done with the utmost secrecy for a few reasons...There are the crazy people who might take it upon themselves to kill a woman for having an abortion. Then there's the simple fact that it's nobody else's business.
I say this because these women aren't people we don't know. They are ME. I believe that WE have the right to control our own bodies. WE have the understanding of our lives necessary to determine whether continuing a pregnancy is possible or not. WE are the ones who live with the consequences of our choices.
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Kassandra
Your micro-bio is empty
12:44 PM on 10/12/2009
It's everybody's bidness in Texas now.................. Their putting wimmin's names online, if you can believe.
03:22 PM on 10/12/2009
Prove this please. I just googled this to see if this was true and found nothing. Please give a link with supporting documentation. This would be so far outside the boundaries of human decency, I can't believe it could happen. Medical records are private and protected by law. It is why there is such a debate about electronic records and the potential for hackers to get into them. It is also why George Clooney sued his doctor because the doctor's nurses or someone in the office leaked his medical records to a smut magazine.
02:48 PM on 10/12/2009
In the 1st trimester I think you are absolutely right. There needs to be a level of choice for women there unhindered from public debate. But what about the mother who decides at 6 months to abort even though there was nothing wrong with her or the baby, just that she decided she didn't want it? What if that baby could live outside the womb and be adopted by a loving family? Does a doctor have a right to puncture its skull and kill it when it is that far along? To talk about the debate in terms of choice, you still have to talk about the limitations because I can't believe a reasonable person would be for killing a baby when it can live outside the womb with limited assistance.
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04:44 PM on 10/12/2009
Who advocates abortion on demand in the third trimester?
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ellawensmom
12:03 PM on 10/13/2009
I don't advocate third trimester abortions. I don't like them at all. If the mother's health is in jeopardy, I don't see why they can't just induce early, and either keep or give the baby for adoption if it survives. I can't see abortions on demand past the 4th month, and even that's pushing it a little. HOWEVER, the fact still remains that you cannot force a woman to have a child. There are ways to get rid of an unwanted pregnancy without a doctor, and none of them are really great ideas.
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doctor4kids
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08:05 AM on 10/12/2009
Thirty-five years ago I had an abortion and I have to say it's haunted me ever since. At the time it was the way out of a bind. It was the 70's and I was a liberated woman expressing her right to control her body. Since then I've married and raised three wonderful children. I've become a pediatrician; a "pillar of the community." But I'll never forget the life I destroyed. It's my deep dark secret that I've told virtually no one.

Don't get me wrong. I don't think abortion should be outlawed but I do think that if one considers it a "healthy option", psychological health should be considered along with physical health. Giving birth to a baby doesn't obligate a woman to become a "mom". As a pediatrician, I know that women will literally go to the ends of the earth to adopt a child. Each woman who contemplates abortion should ask herself the question, "Is a few months of my life worth someone else's whole life?"
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babeltek
08:27 AM on 10/12/2009
I am so sorry for what you went through. It is a difficult burden we place on ourselves to carry such secrets--have you considered counseling? You also bring up a wonderful point about psychological health--I would go even further and ask that we consider the psychological health of the society at large for giving such easy access to abortions on demand.
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05:12 PM on 10/12/2009
I agree with sympathies to doctor4kids, but suggest that the shame we place on a surgical procedure is what needs to change to avoid the damage.
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esgabel
08:44 AM on 10/12/2009
But you had the choice...what we are seeing now are people trying every way they can to deny choice.
We know that if we make abortion illegal it will go underground--we will be where we were at in the 50's, with back alley abortions or with those with money being able to find sources in or out of the country...
and the children who are born?...we hope they will be adopted...but some women will be pushed into keeping a child they do not want or can't afford to keep.
You had a choice--your upbringing, your relgious background obviously did not sway you enough to change your mind or make you look at the moral or psychological ramifications of what you did or were about to do--they failed you...or you failed yourself.
As a country we just need to make sure that women have access to a doctor and a safe clean procedure...nothing more.
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doctor4kids
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12:51 PM on 10/12/2009
I take total responsibility for the choices I've made. For awhile after the procedure, I probably mainly felt relief. It was later that the guilt kind of set in. The experience may have inspired me to be a better parent.

I don't think abortion should be outlawed but I do think women should consider all their options and most importantly choose their relationships wisely and use contraception.