An Obama-McCain General Election Agreement: Neutering The 527s

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Posted April 15, 2008 | 05:41 PM (EST)



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John McCain has promised a "respectful" campaign. He cannot match Barack Obama's fundraising ability and would like both candidates to agree to federal limits.

Without a solution to the inevitable 527 problem, however, Barack Obama should not agree to restrict his general election funds to the federal grant. John McCain cannot control 527 expenditures. [n.b.: for the purposes of this article, any non-Party, non-candidate, controlled election money will be called "527"].

There is a mechanism to make this work. It will test whether McCain is committed to a respectful campaign, as he says, and whether he wants to run the lobbyists and PACs out of the campaign financing system.

The agreement must be in writing. It must be published. It must be tightly written. It must be signed by the campaigns and by the Democratic and Republican Parties. There must be automatic pre-determined sanctions that occur within the relevant timeframe of the campaign itself should the provisions be breached. [n.b.: the nominees each take control of their Parties, and thus can get those Parties to accede to whatever agreement the candidates reach. No excuse that "the Party will not agree"].

But, there is an opportunity for an historic deal on these terms:

1. The candidates agree to take federal funding. Re-directing raised funds to the RNC and DNC is allowed.
2. The candidates and parties agree to take no PAC and no lobbyist money.
3. To neuter the 527s, the candidates make a joint TV, Radio and Print Ad. The TV ad has both McCain and Obama standing beside one another, and they say: "You have just seen an ad attacking the character or patriotism of one of us. Then Barack says of McCain, and McCain says of Barack: "Well, I'm [name], and I want to tell you that [name] is a trustworthy person, who loves this country." Then, they share sentences that say, "We disagree strongly about policies and programs, and how to get America to a better place. We urge you to ignore the ad you just saw. It is not accurate, and does not represent what we think of one another."
4. Those ads are run, on a dollar-for-dollar basis, after either McCain or Obama, notes to the other that a 527, or the RNC/DNC, will be running an attack ad against the other candidate.
5. The costs for running those counter-ads are shared equally by the campaigns and parties.
6. Same concept for radio and direct mail and newspaper ads. One-for-one.

Before everyone piles on, believing that Obama will have relinquished an advantage, consider how this would work. Obama (and McCain) fundraising would go to the Party, not the campaigns. The Party can conduct campaigns in concert with the candidates; that was done in the 2004 campaign.

By agreeing not to take PAC or lobbyist money, we call McCain's bluff and determine whether he is truly opposed to such funding sources.

The joint ad puts the prestige of the other candidate on the side of the attacked. This blunts the impact of the attack. Republicans are far more likely to run vicious attack ads than Democrats. There is no evidence they could have won any Presidential campaign without them.

By requiring a dollar-for-dollar "buy", the Republican 527s will cost the McCain campaign whenever they decide to run such an ad. The existence of the counter-ad will neuter the attack ad, and that alone may deter their use. For example, the SwiftBoat ads spent $37 million.

Under this proposal, McCain would pay $18.5 million to counter it, reducing the money he has to use his own campaign. The determination that a 527 attack triggers a counter-ad is made by the attacked party. It requires only that a 527 has sponsored the ad, and the designation by the attacked party that the joint-ad should be run.

Thus, 527s do not get a free-ride, their activities compel expenditures by the campaign they purportedly are trying to help. The campaigns will have a strong incentive to "suggest" that the 527s do not expose them to such costs.

In summary this proposal determines whether McCain truly wants a respectful campaign. In exchange for agreeing to take federal funds for the campaign, the deal erects a forcefield -- with the counter-ads and the cost of running them on a dollar-for-dollar basis along with the scurrilous 527 ads -- to increase the likelihood that the campaign may indeed be respectful. It also tests McCain's commitment to ridding the system of PAC and lobbyist money.

This is eminently reasonable and fair. If McCain rejects it, it will not only have revealed his true nature, but it will also demonstrate Obama's adherence to his promise to try, in good faith, to work out an agreement with his opponent, should he get the nomination.

If McCain accepts it, the campaign will be about Iraq and our overall foreign policy; the economy and energy; education; and universal health care.

We have no doubt that THAT is a campaign Barack Obama would win in a landslide.

 
 

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- AnninCA See Profile I'm a Fan of AnninCA permalink

He knew about this when he stated, "I'll aggressively pursue federal campaign finance agreement......"

The issue is that he signed a pledge and is now acting like it was nothing.

I call that.......broken promise.

He needs to be accountable for that. After all, that's what he claims he's for in this campaign: accountability.

So ........

Let's hear it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 04/16/2008
- PaulAbrams See Profile I'm a Fan of PaulAbrams permalink

I have not heard him say that he will not aggressively pursue a federal campaign finance agreement. He said he will, and he has confirmed it.

The article proposes what that agreement should be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 04/16/2008
- BryantG See Profile I'm a Fan of BryantG permalink

The major problem here is that there is no real way to neutralize the 527s. Once they speak it's out there for the MSM to run with, and there's nothing a candidate can do to take it back. Most of the time you never see the ad but what you do see is the coverage of the add. So not only do you have to neuter the 527s you also have to find a way neuter a MSM that is all about ratings and profit. The fact that the candidates disavow the ad wont stop the Dobbs', Hanitys and Olbermans of the world from disceting it, telling us what it all means, impacting public opinion and essentially nullifying any such well intentioned agreement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 04/16/2008
- Beka13 See Profile I'm a Fan of Beka13 permalink

McCain wants this because he knows that He has MUCH more dirt to attack then Barack does...The reason he wanted to run against the Clintons is because they are much better matched in Dirtometer....Of Course his biggest mistake is being Bush's poodle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 04/16/2008
- jstock See Profile I'm a Fan of jstock permalink

We can trust the GOP - to smear our eventual nominee, that is. No, we should not unilaterally disarm. Obama (or Clinton) will need all the money he/she can get to fight back. For the first time that I can remember, our candidate can outraise the Republican opponent. Let's enjoy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 04/16/2008
- Michale32086 See Profile I'm a Fan of Michale32086 permalink

Nice attitude...

I believe that's called 'Hypocrisy'...

To be against something until it benefits you, then change your mind and be for it..

ahh yup.... That's 'Hypocrisy'...

Michale.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 04/16/2008
- realitytrumpsbull See Profile I'm a Fan of realitytrumpsbull permalink

What a sad, overfunded fan-dance and butt-kissing contest this process has become. Say whatever needs said, run a clean campaign, debate the points in civil and professional fashion, and if ya can't do that, then bow out and yield to the more professional Candidates. But also, be blunt, if there's something that you, as a Candidate, feel needs to be changed or is more important than another competing issue, then give voice to that and disregard anything in print or on television or on the Internets. 9.4 in the hole, Forever War, Con Me, mortgage fallout, energy, let's see, what else is kiting around out there, oh, immigration, infrastructure/transportation, education(that's a perennial), and...well, that's a good list, for starters...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 04/16/2008
- shaggles See Profile I'm a Fan of shaggles permalink

A joint ad would actually make it easier for candidates/parties to use 527's to do their dirty work. They'd have a built in alibi. This is no solution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 04/16/2008
- FrankfromHolland See Profile I'm a Fan of FrankfromHolland permalink

In principal I like the idea, but there is one part of it that hasn't been discussed yet. It ignores the fact that media coverage in general and MSM in particular isn't neutral. So if you want, you can still play tricks within this framework. Take the Wright controversy as an example. All you have to do is make sure that befriended media pick up on your biased representation and replay and rediscuss it over and over again.
To anticipate on a possible reaction, yes the candidates are not responsible for the media. But if you ignore the bias it simply gives a substantial advantage to the haves. Also it is a lot cheaper to keep something running than having to create it yourself.
So how do you propose a more balanced, neutral playing field?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 04/16/2008
- wildgeeseNC See Profile I'm a Fan of wildgeeseNC permalink

I like the way you think. But since Faux News is one non-stop infomercial of attacks on Democrats, MCCain doesn't need to spend a dime doing it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 AM on 04/16/2008
- karela See Profile I'm a Fan of karela permalink

Bad, Bad, Bad plan to take the federal money. He'd be stuck without any meaningful recourse if they didn't keep the agreement. And of course the media, esp. Fox will attack. I don't think he should agree to anything, but if he chooses to, why not agree that he will set aside, out of his own funds, an amount equal to what McCain gets and use only that for the campaign---------as long as the other side keeps it's word. If they break their word, he still has his own money to fall back on without any of the legal entanglements that taking the federal money would involve.

I think it would be unwise to limit himself in any way about the money. The whole point of the campaign finance reform was to take lobbyists, PACs and big money influencing out of the equation. I think he's already done that. I care less about being scrupulously fair then I do about ting a democratic president. That fierce urgency of now thing is no joke. Our country's in trouble and I don't believe John McCain will lead us back to safety. He'll lead us into "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb . . . Bomb, Bomb Iran. We could lose our country if we get this wrong. This is not a time to bend over backwards to give the republicans a super fair chance. Karl Rove and his ilk are waiting and you know that they would never do something so foolish if the situation

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 04/16/2008
- Michale32086 See Profile I'm a Fan of Michale32086 permalink

"I care less about being scrupulously fair then I do about ting a democratic president."

Interesting..

So, in other words, what you are saying is that "the end justifies the means"...

How positively Rovian of you... :^/

Michale......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 04/16/2008
- vlebje See Profile I'm a Fan of vlebje permalink

I agree in principle with wildgeese. I would like to think that there is a way to neutralize the 527's, but this simply plays into the wicked and devious mind of Karl the Commie Rove. They will find a way to overcome the limitations, whether it be by having Bechtel give them a billion dollars or import billions from some foreign sheik. All in all, I think Obama should complete the race in the same manner as he has conducted it thus far: on the small donations of millions of voters around this great nation. It is exhilarating to experience, for the first time in a generation, a kind of power that is diffused throughout the formerly powerless. Obama has successfully revamped what Congress could not do: campaign finance reform. I like his way best. Power to the people, and damn the corpratist torpedoes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 04/16/2008
- meanguy See Profile I'm a Fan of meanguy permalink

mccain made the offer, and obama AGREED, back when obama was struggling and mccain was doing well...once again, obama has shown by his ACTIONS that words DON'T matter, at least HIS words...fellows, you can dress it up all you want, distort the timeline to support your candidate's weaseling out of an agreement, but LIE is still a LIE

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 AM on 04/16/2008
- PaulAbrams See Profile I'm a Fan of PaulAbrams permalink

Not true. Obama's statement was in response to a written question by a good government group, and said he would pursue aggressively an agreement with the Republican nominee. It had nothing to do with John McCain, who was not considered the most likely Republican candidate.

The article is the proposed agreement that Obama should aggressively pursue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 04/16/2008
- Carlo0220 See Profile I'm a Fan of Carlo0220 permalink

If this is the case, then why did McCain back out of public financing when he clinched the nomination early? it's because now that he has used the taxpayer's money, he won't wait until the general election to keep campaigning because he's used up the public financing funds so he is abusing the system now to benefit himself. If he had not won the nomination yet, he would still be accepting that public financing. To me, it is a big loophole that he can drop the public financing with the Democratic nomination still going on and with it being this far from the RNC.

McCain knows that even if Obama agrees to public financing, the 527's would eat him alive, all with McCain being able to waive any responsiblity for their content. That's not to say that Obama would not be able to do the same thing, but this is all about McCain not being able to compete with Obama's fundraising. Trust me, if Obama were in financial straits, or if Clinton wins this nomination, McCain wouldn't be making such a stink about this.

What McCain should be worrying about is that lawsuit he is about to face for abusing the campaign finance rules.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 AM on 04/16/2008
- jrockbg See Profile I'm a Fan of jrockbg permalink

I like your plan. The 527's won't go but the candidates can choose to admonish them if they get out of line. I like the idea of public financing for Repub and Dem nominees. It's also fair to have all funds raised to go to the DNC and RNC for the presidential election.

But who will hold the national party leadership accountable to that? They use funds for Congressional races as well.

I don't think we'll know what this election will ultimately be about. The black and white line between "troop reduction based on our commanders on the ground" and "a timely pull-out without posing great risk, which is assessed by commanders on the ground"...well the line is turning more grey day by day. Even Obama has retreated from using the words "immediate" to describe pulling out. Who knows where our economy will be.

Democrats haven't been able to shape the issues the last two presidential elections. I wonder if they will suceed this time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 AM on 04/16/2008
- Oreva See Profile I'm a Fan of Oreva permalink

In your dreams!!! No way will the GOP agree to be curtailed by this...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 AM on 04/16/2008
- PaulAbrams See Profile I'm a Fan of PaulAbrams permalink

Present it to the GOP, and let them reject it. Calls their bluff...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 AM on 04/16/2008
- mindact See Profile I'm a Fan of mindact permalink

we're missing the point here. The whole issue of public financing was intended to curb the influence of special interest including lobbyst, corporations and bigwigs. Barack has raised majority of his funds from individuals like myself that has given close to $200 over the last 4 months. We're talking about 1M donors here.

The danger with pure public financing is that candidates that have been in the spotlight for a minute like John McCain will have a significant advantage over fresh faces i.e. Obama. It gives the longer tenured candidates an opportunity to define the new comer. That's where having the available funds to fight back is crucial. Barack needs those funds to fend off the 527s. I heard Barack's comments from the San Franciso fund raiser. I've seen and heard what the talking heads on the right wing and even some mainstream media are communicating and it's very far off from what was said. Barack accepting public financing amounts to him surrending the presidency to the republicans. Let's stop romanticizing over this whole public financing bs and face reality. There are bad people out there trying to derail campaigns and we need the funding to fight back

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 AM on 04/16/2008
- PaulAbrams See Profile I'm a Fan of PaulAbrams permalink

In all due respect I think you missed a critical point. Obama would still be able to raise money on the web, but it would go to the Party. In '04 it was determined that nominees and the Party could legally coordinate their campaigns. Thus, there is no "loss" of the advantage you mention.

Moreover, the ability to blunt the 527s decreases their effect. You know--as you have said above--that their only hope of beating Obama is to savage him. Since a candidate has to say, "I approved this message", it is harder to lie and savage one's self. That's where the 527s come in, unfortunately. If the 527s are neutered, or substantially reduced in effect, by jointly funded ads that include both candidates (as suggested), then the major strategy to beat Obama is blunted.

That is why McCain may not agree. But, if he doesn't, then the onus is on him, not Barack.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 AM on 04/16/2008
- jrockbg See Profile I'm a Fan of jrockbg permalink

...and didn't Obama agree a while ago to use public financing? The question isn't whether he will use it or not. The question is will he change his mind and elect to not use public financing. Regardless of party, if a nominee chooses not to use public financing, they obviously don't see the merit in it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 AM on 04/16/2008
- meltingpot101 See Profile I'm a Fan of meltingpot101 permalink

I think these candidates, Obama and McCain are quite capable of taking politics as usual to a higher level of integrity. It will be interesting to see this happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 04/15/2008
- fixbone See Profile I'm a Fan of fixbone permalink

i agree completely, i also agree that if the 527 are not controlled than what is the point of publci financing - ialso think that if they agree to do this Obama has a profound advantage with his grass roots on the ground organiziation - it will also set the stage for future national elecations and for local elections to follow suit with non-negtive campaigning, grass roots populous movements instead of relying on the idiots on the news and TV

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 04/16/2008
- jrockbg See Profile I'm a Fan of jrockbg permalink

Two points always bug me when I hear the left talk negatively about 527's.

1. First off, 527's are YOUR baby. It was a method of manipulating electoral waters back then to suit Dems. It certainly wasn't something conservatives were in favor of. It's McCain-Feingold! And it stems from the part of McCain that conservatives have admonished from day one! I find it amusing that the left talk about 527's as if they are a long-lived bastion of Republican Party political strategy.

2. Let's be honest, the only reason 527's are being demonized here is because you lost the last two elections to Dubya; A man that the left has dubbed as a hapless, incompetent, inept person. It must really burn to lose to a person you hold in such low regard like that. 527's played a major role on both sides. It just happens that they became more effective for the Republican party. If Gore or Kerry were president, this article would be on "How to most effectively use these wonderful 527's" to get Obama elected.

I hope they both use federal funds. I think the fact that we have these two frontrunners (Obama-McCain) shows the US is hoping for a different kind of election. Both McCain and Obama do not have spotless records on distancing themselves from smear merchants and ultra-divisive figures. I think its foolish to believe that Obama or McCain would paint himself into a corner as described above.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 04/15/2008
- PaulAbrams See Profile I'm a Fan of PaulAbrams permalink

I don't think 527s were anyone's idea. They "arose" in the uncovered areas of McCain-Feingold. What the conservatives didn't like about McCain-Feingold was the limitations on individual contributions, robbing (they thought) the candidate and party of the money advantage. So, they turned to 527s.

Each has an incentive to do the deal. And, it calls McCain's bluff.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 04/15/2008
- jrockbg See Profile I'm a Fan of jrockbg permalink

You assume that 527's weren't a foreseeable side-effect of Mccain-Feingold. Tell you what, lets make this agreement:

I'll concede that 527's were a POSSIBLE side effect but not foreseeable. Thus, no action was taken to marginalize them. Then you will agree that the insurgency in Iraq was a POSSIBLE side effect but not foreseeable. Thus, no action was taken to marginalize it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 04/15/2008
- Michale32086 See Profile I'm a Fan of Michale32086 permalink

You are, of course, assuming that McCain is "bluffing"..

Why is that??

It can't be possible that McCain is actually sincere??

Michale.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 04/15/2008
- Michale32086 See Profile I'm a Fan of Michale32086 permalink

The idea has merit and is, on the surface, logical and rational...

However, the manner in which you presented is obviously biased and is an attack against McCain.

You just cost Obama 5,000 quatloos in campaign funds and may the gods have mercy on your soul.. :D

Seriously, I can see Obama going for it, as it is in keeping with his philosophy on how he wants the partisanship bitterness to end...

However, as you can see from the responses, Democrats do not care about a better anything. They are all about "making the GOP pay" and making sure the GOP "reaps what it sows"....

The Democrats forget (or more likely don't care) that they are talking about fellow Americans...

{sigh}

Political bigotry is almost as annoying and fractious as racial bigotry...

And this place is FULL of political bigots...

Present company excepted, of course...

Michale.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 PM on 04/15/2008
- PatrickWalker See Profile I'm a Fan of PatrickWalker permalink

F*ck bipartisanship!

Bill Clinton's biggest mistake was not pursuing Republicans crimes of the Reagan-Bush years, and there were a lot of them. Iran-Contra, the S&L crisis, BCCI, to name just a few of the doozies. Bill Clinton wanted to bring a new "nonpartisan" tone to Washington for all the good it did him (or the country). They hounded his every move from '94 on and the best they could get was a consentual blowjob lie in an unrelated civil case.

After eight f*cking years of Bush Obama is CONTEMPLATING this?! No, no, no no!

Bush and his merry cohorts in crime have to be tried if there is to be any justice in the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 04/16/2008
- Michale32086 See Profile I