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James Freedman

James Freedman

Posted: January 24, 2008 03:40 AM

Ron Paul: Roe v. Wade a 'Big Mistake'


Before getting elected to Congress in the late 1970s, Paul delivered more than 4,000 babies as an OB/GYN. When it comes to abortion, he believes the mother's freedom of choice is mitigated by an obligation to protect the life of the "unborn child," stating on his campaign Web site that he never found abortion necessary to save the life of one of his patients. He is also a sponsor of HR 300, proposed legislation that his Web site says would "negate the effects of Roe v. Wade."

If elected president, Paul told me he would continue to pursue such a policy.

"I think the Roe v. Wade situation was a big mistake and the states ought to have the right to decide on the issue, so I would deny jurisdiction to the federal courts on abortion issues," he said.

Roe v. Wade was decided in large part under the doctrine of substantive due process as an issue of privacy. Paul thinks that basis for the ruling is flawed.

"I don't see it as a privacy issue," he said. "I think it's only a life issue. As an obstetrician, I can verify the fact that the life does exist. It's very much alive, and it's very human, and I have a legal responsibility for it. If I do any harm, I can be sued for it. If an individual kills a fetus, they can be hauled off to court for it. So it's a legal life. To say that life doesn't exist -- if someone kills a fetus in a car accident, they have to answer to this. So why is it life one time but not another time?"

While admitting situations such as rape and incest require further consideration, he continued his rebuke of the Supreme Court's privacy basis for legalizing abortion.

"The government doesn't have the right to invade your home or have cameras in your home," he said. "That doesn't give you the right to kill a child just because it was born and it was in the crib and you didn't like the way it looked and you went, 'Oh, we don't want to keep this baby.' Everybody knows it's illegal and it's killing. But one minute before the baby's born they come to me and if I did the abortion I'd get paid for it. So that's a real contradiction about the definition of life."

While some would consider his stance on abortion and many of his other positions inconsistent, Paul does not think so, instead tying in his pro-life stance with the larger logic of his world-view.

"If I can't defend life, how am I going to defend the liberty of every single individual on how they're going to run their lives? And I essentially do that, so I think that I have to be consistent on defending life or the defense of liberty doesn't hold up."

Before getting elected to Congress in the late 1970s, Paul delivered more than 4,000 babies as an OB/GYN. When it comes to abortion, he believes the mother's freedom of choice is mitigated by an oblig...
Before getting elected to Congress in the late 1970s, Paul delivered more than 4,000 babies as an OB/GYN. When it comes to abortion, he believes the mother's freedom of choice is mitigated by an oblig...
 
 
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04:25 PM on 01/30/2008
Ron Paul idiots live in the country of ME. It is all about WHAT I WANT AND MY MONEY. I never saw a federal document that addressed, "ME the people" . It is always WE the people. You want ME, go live on an island somewhere. WE won't miss you selfish bastards.
09:21 AM on 01/29/2008
In effect he is stating that safe abortion should be a function of disposable income. Only the rich should be able to purchase safe abortions and the deaths of poor women seeking back street hangar abortions that die are disposable.
03:49 PM on 01/28/2008
Lets add some more facts to this discussion:
Statistics show that those countries that have the most restrictive laws concerning birth control have the highest rates of abortion and vice/versa. This is actually due to the accessibility to ALL forms of birth control- including the morning after pill. It stands to reason that the easier it is to get birth control the less abortions occur. Instead of focusing on dead fetuses- we should all be striving to make birth control far easier for people to get. It is an over the counter drug in most of Europe- no prescription needed. Same with the morning after pill. I don't see Ron Paul fighting against this kind of access, and THIS kind of solution would truly lower abortion
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04:15 PM on 01/27/2008
All BS aside, this issue is not one that we should decide the presidency on. It should be decided by courts and legislatures, and the president is not going to directly affect this. The economy and Iraq, and the violation of civil liberties (freedom of speech) are just a bit more important.
10:32 PM on 01/26/2008
The burden of proof ought to be on those who claim that abortion is EVER medically necessary to save the life of the mother--Mr. Paul did not find that to be so. He delivered 4,000 or so babies.

But removing the mandate from the federal level is in the best interest of your own ability to make decisions locally.

Lastly, raising children changes us, so aborting "retarded" ones is short-changing ourselves in the long run.
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05:32 PM on 01/26/2008
Why waste thousands of words. It all boils down to two words------"WHO DECIDES?" Is it the woman or the government. I say the woman. Nuff said!
02:58 AM on 01/25/2008
Ron Paul is totally incorrect on this issue. Abortion should be legal simply to end the suffering of unwanted fetuses. We should also extent abortion rights to include disabled children. Why should they have to suffer for our selfish sense of morality.
01:34 AM on 01/25/2008
Privacy issue, moral issue and let's not forget, money/class issue. Turn jurisdiction over to the individual states and all that will happen is the privlidged will use their resources to just state hop. So in effect the law still allows 'choice', but only for the few. No doubt there are those who think that would be like returning to the good old days.
01:28 AM on 01/25/2008
Think about this: if the president and/or congress can actually strip the court of authority over this issue, then why have they not done so by now. Why does each president continue to plot to stack the court with justices that share his idealogy? Could it be that the politicians like having this issue to kick around? It is a distraction from other issues and both sides garner a lot of constituent support based solely on this issue, and the "pro-lifers" get to look like they have no control over changing it. This issue will never be allowed to die, and Roe will never be overturned.
09:54 PM on 01/24/2008
I spent nearly a decade as a probation/parole officer in not just one state, but in two states--everyone needs to do that job for just six months and any discussion about abortion would be gone--save for the fact--of "how can we make abortion madatory for all untill someone has proven they are going to be fit parents in terms of their mental state, responsiblity, financial ability, etc. so that they can effectively raise children"---
Most people should not have kids and God must have a big time sense of humor--the ones who should not have them are so fertile--we used to joke "she could get preggers if she is within 500' of a hard prick" and so many folks who would make great parents can't even get preggers at $20k or $30K a pop for in vitro--totally whacko---and I go back to what I have been saying--to hell with any other avenue of discussion in regards to abortion--to deny abortions to women basically strips them of the most fundamental of rights they can have---pretty much everything else is moot for women if they have no control over their reproductive capabilities----they may as well not have any other rights then!!!
09:40 PM on 01/24/2008
I guess that Ron Paul does not give a rat's patotie about the rights of women then----guess they are nothing more than breeding stock ehh Ron???
08:32 PM on 01/24/2008
Why are men always commenting on the subject of abortion? People act as if having an abortions is something women look forward to doing or even want to do. Most women would give anything not to be in that position. I think for most women it is one of the most painful decision she will ever have make. Because when it come right down to it, women are the main ones making all the sacrifices for the children. We give up a lot and we should because we made the decision to have the baby. I am a mother and I wouldn't have it any other way because my child is the most important thing in my life. I am an ADULT and I can and will make decisions about My Body and My Life.

We have so many unwanted and abuse children in our country and in the world. Parents that abuse and use their own flesh and blood. If we are honest with ourselves we would admit that there are many children that would have be better off never being born. We all see the suffering of these children everyday and yet very few of us give it a second thought. Most of us go on with our lives as if it doesn't exist. If people are honest with themselves they would have to admit it is not a big priority in their lives, the way these children live or die. Hell, our favorite past time is watching people humiliate themselves on TV.
I saw more hatred from the American people about Michael Vick's brutality of dogs than the suffering of the most innocent among us. Where was the outrage when that idiot president vetoed the health care bill for the children? The pro lifer wants to save the unborn but don't give a damn about the children once they make it into this world. So I say to Ron Paul and his ilk, try taking care of the children that are here now and suffering. After all, Ron, you have all the answers. NOT!
07:55 PM on 01/24/2008
So long as it stands Roe V. Wade will continue to breed fanaticism on both sides and push more pressing issues out of their proper place in national politics.

Ron Paul is right on this issue.
04:34 PM on 01/24/2008
Passing a law will not stop a behavior.
Abortions, drugs, guns...all will still be around no matter how many laws are passed.
When these laws are passed restricting and prohibiting these things they become more dangerous and more costly...especially to those who have nothing to do with these things at all.
The best example is the War On Some Drugs...it is the greatest Domestic policy failure in US history.
before 1902 all drugs wee available for anyone and the problems were minimal, now the problems are incredibly large and could all be ended by repealing all drug laws .
They are obviously all unconstitutional anyway. Life Liberty and the pursuit of happiness covers that and many other issues.
The public is much less safe because of these laws.
04:29 PM on 01/24/2008
Too bad we can't use the government to harvest Ron Paul's kidney in the interst of the right to life for some poor person with end stage renal disease. People are dying. They have fingers and noses, and someone loves them. Why should Ron Paul have any say in the matter?