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The Use and Abuse of Religion

Posted: 05/ 7/10 06:37 PM ET

Back in the 1960's Americans were deeply divided on matters of war and race. While Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. and religious leaders associated with his Southern Christian Leadership Conference led protests and committed acts of civil disobedience demanding civil rights, they were countered by white Christian preachers in the South who warned of the dangers of violating God's will by ignoring the punishment God had meted out to the "sons of Ham." And while New York's Cardinal Francis Spellman had traveled to Vietnam to bless U.S. troops as they battled "godless Communism," a Jesuit priest Daniel Berrigan led fellow clergymen and women in protests against the war, often resulting in their arrest and imprisonment (in one case, for burning the Selective Service files of young men who were to be drafted to serve in the military).

During this entire period I do not recall Christianity being described as a warlike or racist faith. Nor do I recall King and Berrigan being referred to as "Christian protesters." We did not engage in drawn out theological debates in an effort to determine which interpretation of Christianity was correct. Rather we defined these individuals by what they did. There were either "segregationists" and "civil rights leaders" or they were "supporters of the war" and "peace activists."

What we may have understood, at least implicitly, was that because a person or institution used religious language to define or validate certain behaviors that did not make that behavior "religious." Nor did this define, by itself, the religion to which they adhered. This is something that many in the West still understand, at least when it comes to Christianity. Because President George W. Bush, in some speeches, described the Iraq war as America carrying out God's will, we knew not to refer to that conflict as a "Christian" war. Our discussion of Islam is a different matter.

For reasons beyond the scope of this short piece, when dealing with Islam, political leaders, media commentators and ordinary folk here in the West, appear intent on using religious language to describe every aspect of life and all forms of behavior, both good and bad, as "Muslim." In doing so, we create confusion for ourselves and others, leading, at times, to incoherence and some very strange policies.

For example, faced with the threat of individuals and groups using religious language to validate their acts of terror, we refer to them as "Muslim terrorists." But then because we recognize that they represent only a tiny fraction of Muslims, we maintain that they "don't speak for Islam". This then leads us down the tortuous path of attempting to define what is "good" Islam versus "bad" Islam -- creating a kind of "state sanctioned" interpretation of a faith -- something we understood not to do when it involved Christianity.

Another example: a colleague, for whom I have the greatest respect, recently wrote a book in which he first correctly debunks the notion of "Muslim terrorists", but then goes on to write about "Muslim oil" -- by which he means oil coming from Gulf and Central Asian and some African countries. To which I respond: Does that make U.S. and Canadian oil "Christian" or "secular democratic" oil? Or is Venezuelan oil "Bolivarian" oil or whatever?

And finally, the White House recently sponsored a summit for Muslim entrepreneurs -- described in some of the literature as focusing on entrepreneurs from "Muslim majority countries and Muslim communities around the world." Aside from troubling questions about what message this sends to business people from the Arab World or Indonesia or elsewhere who may not be Muslim, or what local sectarian tensions such an effort may exacerbate, what exactly is a "Muslim entrepreneur"? Or, for that matter, what is a "Christian entrepreneur" or "Hindu entrepreneur"?

At the end of the day, there are terrorists, there is oil and there are people who start up and run businesses. They are better defined by what they do. For government or the rest of us to insist on defining them by their faith, or even how they describe themselves or how they define their actions, is at best careless. It also runs the risk of Western governments treading into the murky waters of sanctioning "good" or acceptable Islam or applying a religious litmus test on groups which, in itself, makes a political statement that is most certainly none of our business, and can be dangerous.

 

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guitargeorge1964
Independent!!!
04:21 PM on 05/09/2010
Interesting article. I think it's too late to turn the tide though. Muslim will from now on be looked at as the enemy, no matter what the nationality of the participants or the politics behind the actual act. I personally don't feel that way, but some people's prejudices run deep, and it's easier to paint a whole group than to be rational.
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Jim Killingsworth
Retired Left Coast Crumudgeon
02:00 PM on 05/09/2010
While I agree that religious affiliation is often used in inappropriate ways. It's also true that many religionists by using their religion to advance secular causes to the same disservice.

It's hard not to include religious affiliation with people who blow up buildings in the name of Islam or people who murder doctors or blow of abortion clinics in the name of Christianity or attack Palestinians in the name of Zionism.

This self-identification is doing immense harm to reasonable people of faith. Perhaps as much as government, media and individuals who bring religious affiliation into descriptions that don't require it.
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mrcontinental
01:40 PM on 05/09/2010
Religions only purpose is to control and divide, and it has been incredibly effective at both.
12:13 PM on 05/09/2010
Again, "defining people by their faith" has no place in law or government. Ever. We are finding out daily that those with the most widely professed "faith," the people who butter wouldn't melt in their mouths because they're so pious and full of "family values"--are the absolute worst of the lot.

The more one yaks about how religious he/she is...the more suspect they are. Sorry.
11:04 AM on 05/09/2010
Maybe if we had Muslim leaders and organizations speaking out against the terrorist crimes committed in the name of Allah, we could distinguish between the few "bad eggs" out there. However we would be foolish to not look at the History of all Religions, including Islam, and not see crimes against people who don't believe as the ruling Governments version of the truth.
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SmileAndActNice
Utilitarianism, the -ism that works.
12:38 PM on 05/09/2010
What if we do have lots of Muslim clerics vocally opposing terrorism .... but they just aren't getting any time on the nightly news because they just don't have the eyeball grabbing star quality of Hussein? And they ramble on at length instead of issuing sharp, threatening soundbites?

What if peace just doesn't sell?

http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php
http://www.vancouverite.com/2010/01/08/top-muslim-clerics-issue-fatwa-denouncing-terror-attacks-on-canada-and-u-s/
http://article.wn.com/view/2010/03/02/Top_Muslim_cleric_to_issue_antiterrorism_fatwa/
http://www.islamfortoday.com/terrorism.htm

Ahh heck, google 'muslim clerics denouncing terrorists' and just work through the nearly 100,000 hits yourself.
11:39 PM on 05/09/2010
here is another one,

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
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guitargeorge1964
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04:23 PM on 05/09/2010
Muslim leaders come out after every event and openly and vocally condemn them. It just doesn't get a lot of air time on any of the MSM.
serena1313
Condemnation w/o investigation is hgt of ignorance
10:11 AM on 05/09/2010
The hallmark of faith is understood by acts not words. Whatever religion, if any, you choose to embrace, always remember the human capacity for understanding and love are far greater than the power of fear.
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rougebaisers
07:26 AM on 05/09/2010
All religions are lies of power, fashioned to the design of those in power within that religion, under the guise of spiritual masters, whose message is warped and twisted to make it easier for them to control. All religions separate. All religions create mistrust. All religions spawn hate. All religions are abomination.
07:28 AM on 05/09/2010
Well, that certainly advanced the conversation.
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SmileAndActNice
Utilitarianism, the -ism that works.
12:27 PM on 05/09/2010
It doesn't matter Rouge.

It is an irrefutable fact that monotheistic societies are winners in evolutionary terms. And the judeo-christian faith family ( which includes islam - they share some books ) is a particularly successful strain of monotheism.

I recommend picking up the book 'Guns, Germs, and Steel'. It is a study of the history of cultural conflicts and how the winning side won. While religion didn't git billing in the title they have a fascinating section focusing specifically on how religion makes a society more successful as a whole ( at the expense of individuals in the society, yes. Absolutely. ).

Not better. Not more moral. Not right.

But better equipped to kick over other folks apple carts and take their stuff. Which, like deadbeat daddery, is Darwin tested, Evolution approved.

This is much like how living in squalor allowed Europeans to both incubate/develop and **become resistant to** virulent microbes that devastated indigenous populations with better sanitary habits. Because most of them lived in filth and rarely bathed they got a huge combative edge over, for example, Native Americans. Survival Of The Sickest ( Another good book ).

We can't just say "stop" ( well we can, it just won't work ). We have to find a superior alternative that provides the benefits of religion without the drawbacks.
07:23 AM on 05/10/2010
Agreed. It is often counter-intuitive but the great Petri dish of life cannot be denied. (The sheer depopulation of the indigenous humans of the Caribbean basin following Columbus is just surreal. Collapse.)

And evolutionary processes are not limited to squishy biological stuff only, as you alluded. Religions, politics, all kinds of complex, interconnected things also follow seemingly Darwinian models.I think this is why Steven Hawking has recently advised caution in interacting with any space-faring species we might encounter ;) They might be very much like us...

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Erzsebet Gilbert
author, expat, traveler
01:44 AM on 05/09/2010
We have to understand that the religions and spiritualities people use to describe the world are interpreted in different ways by different individuals, who allow these ideas to impact life in different ways. For example....

Israel, as a nation, commits immense brutality and dehumanization against the Palestinian people. And explicitly, this is done in the name of the Jewish people. I am against Israel, but I would never refer to them as "the Jews," because I understand that there is a difference between individual believers and how they allow their beliefs to impact others.

Likewise, while some terrorist acts are committed in the name of Islam, one cannot conflate the actions of a handful of fundamentalists with millions of people around the globe; there are human faces here.
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rougebaisers
07:28 AM on 05/09/2010
A religionless world would not divide humanity, would not create hate and mistrust as a world full of religions has done throughout history. Until one is absolutely religionless, one can never truly experience true love for everyone and everything everywhere. p.s. that excludes Greed and its minions.
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Erzsebet Gilbert
author, expat, traveler
08:52 AM on 05/09/2010
I am atheist, myself, but I just can't agree. Religions are one of many stories and many languages humanity has created to understand the world. I cannot say that I believe in the metaphysical truth of religion, but I believe in the validity of others' experiences. The problem is in the organization of it, I think, the enormous desire for control over life. But hate and mistrust and division, unfortunately, are something of which all people, regardless of belief or lack thereof, are capable.
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12:19 PM on 05/09/2010
Its more then just a handful dear. Try living as a Copt Christian in Egypt(where both the poeple and giovernment). Try living as one of the last Jews in Yemen, where even the government cant proect them(they are as of the moment, seeking asylum in the UK). Try living as a Christian or Hindu in certain areas of Pakistan or India. Try building a house of worship in Suadia Arabia and other ME places other then an Islamic one.

It tends to me a bit more then the handful.
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guitargeorge1964
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04:31 PM on 05/09/2010
Try living as a Muslim in America.

Like the Islamic temple near Houston, where the surrounding property was bought by christians and turned in to pig farms. They hold anti-muslim rallies there all the time where great American christians sing Lee Greenwood's song and have guest speakers spout anti-muslim rhetoric through a very loud P.A.
01:33 AM on 05/09/2010
Yes, indeed. Our media language has become religious oriented. How did this happen? I first saw it coming some 30 years ago when fundamentalist Christians sought to take over a school board in Welches Oregon. They objected to counseling programs that sought to help children feel better. As I recall, their objection was to a dolphin in that particular curriculum. Wow. That is certainly bad, I thought then and now. huh?

Since then, our country has been subjected to an intense amount of religious influence: the growth of the "new" churches and all those millions who folow. I'm fairly spiritual myself, but the folks I know personally who call themselves Christian seem to me to be quite narrow-minded. Either believe in jesus and all that we believe or you are not "saved" and nothing else will do. And the worst of this is their political leanings. Do they not realize that politics, governance, the Constitution does NOT revolve around religion? Do they not know that this country was founded on religious freedom?

What has happened to my country?
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BoyInBOYCOTT
12:54 AM on 05/09/2010
Religious Americans, almost all Christians have traded on their faith, wanted their faith funded with government initiatives, shove their idiotic Creationism into science classes, shoved their failed abstinence ONLY into sex education in the middle of the AIDS pandemic. When Christians throw rocks at Gays and Lesbians Civil Rights then hide behind stained glass windows where they say they can't be criticised.

oh hell no!
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guitargeorge1964
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04:32 PM on 05/09/2010
Preach it brother!
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BoyInBOYCOTT
12:49 AM on 05/09/2010
Bush....crusades

nuff said
12:14 AM on 05/09/2010
Everything Mr. Zogby writes may be true. However, when was the last time we had repeated attempts by any religious group to terminate people who depicted their religious leader in any form? There are numerous examples of critiques and inflammatory insults made against the founder of Christianity, but no resulting killings. Cartoons and animation seem to cause violent reactions in other cases. I quite firmly reject any attempts to change the norms of behavior in US society, which include the defense of very dubious expressions of opinions. Until I see the equivalent tolerance in Muslim dominated societies, I have no interest in supporting their expansion in mine.
07:20 AM on 05/09/2010
You just illustrated his point nicely.

Within some segments of Islam, images of the Prophet are prohibited - this is not from the Koran, but taken from the hadith. Within those segments, some extremists take it further into violence.

Your position is much is like saying Christianity requires women to be subservient to men.
10:20 AM on 05/09/2010
Then i think Mr. Zogby is right, these extremists should not be referred to byt the short-hand "Muslims" but rather could be called "Islamic fundamentalists" or "Islamic extremists".

Innthat sense the point of this article is well-taken.
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Soulcatcher
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11:21 PM on 05/08/2010
I'd like to buy into the "tiny fraction" argument but I find it's hard to do. I can see it here in the USA, yes, but I have yet to be convinced that all but a "tiny fraction" of the people in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Jordan are my friends. It seems quite the reverse. I see people there hating me daily on all the news channels but I almost never see them wanting to be my friends or peaceful neighbors. Or anyone's, for that matter. So the question comes up: where is this vast majority of peaceful and well-meaning Muslims, what are they doing and why can't they easily stamp out the terrorist few by sheer force of numbers? Also, why have they never done it in all this time--after all, Islamic fundamentalists declaring war on non-Islamic states is nothing new.
It's an honest question. If the radicals are so few, why are they all we see on the news? Where are the friendly and peaceful folks who want to get along with others and stop the madness? Why are they so quiet when it's their own religion which is taking the hits at the moment? Why isn't Pakistan breaking out in peace right now, instead of hatred?
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Erzsebet Gilbert
author, expat, traveler
01:38 AM on 05/09/2010
Ever consider the possibility that the news doesn't really show you the daily lives, struggles, joys and sorrows of the real, averages citizens of the countries you list above? Ever think that maybe you could have friends you meet somewhere other than the TV? It's an honest question.
Violence and radicalism make better news. It's that simple: it sells. Consider how comfortable your life is - when the closest contact you have with conflict in the Middle East, and everywhere, comes in the form of the news. If you don't think the everyday people around whom these wars rage just aren't doing enough, consider that it's pretty hard to stop a fundamentalist group when an occupying foreign army is killing your peoples as "collateral damage" left and right, and when you are simply trying to keep your family fed, safe, and alive.
08:54 AM on 05/09/2010
"where is this vast majority of peaceful and well-meaning Muslims, what are they doing and why can't they easily stamp out the terrorist few by sheer force of numbers?"
They are in Iran...
No, really, while our "Allies," in Saudi Arabia have state sponsored textbooks calling America '"The Great Satan" and supporting the Wahhabi faith (the splinter Muslim faith that believes that Jihad is a path to heaven-the state religion of Saudi Arabia), the population of Iran is the most Pro-US group of Muslims outside Indonesia.
10:58 PM on 05/08/2010
I disagree with this piece. I think the insertion of Muslim or Christian as a descriptor is a summary statement about some important aspect of the person or group it describes. Saying that in the past we did not use this description only speaks to the fact that in the past we were less sophisticated. In the information age, we are more aware not just of what people are doing, but why. Motivation matters. If that motivation is religious then people want to know. Groups matter, too. Many people want to know if religious people are forming groups because they think those groups are dangerous. Others want to know because they are members of those groups and wish to join. To say that using descriptions that reveal religion is a poor choice is only to say that people are not, in fact, sophisticated enough to interpret the finer meanings of the usage. This may be true, in fact, but it is hardly a good argument to those who are sophisticated enough.
07:27 AM on 05/09/2010
So, you don't have a problem calling Scott Roeder, the man who shot Dr. George Tiller in his church, as a Christian Assassin? I understand what you're saying regarding the portion of the population who understands that one may be an assassin and consider oneself a Christian without lumping everything together.

BUT, there are those who a willfully collapse all sorts of violence under the descriptor 'Muslim' to advance their own agendas and for the sole purpose of dehumanizing all Muslims. They've been quite successful at it, I might add.
10:09 AM on 05/09/2010
I actually don't have a probelm calling him that, if it was motivated primarily by his religious dogma. It's time we call out Christian terrorists in the U.S. too.

Some press use the term "Islamist" to describe Muslims who want to violently impose a fundamental Islam, and I am also seeing the term "Christianist" in the blogosphere.

I like these terms -- what do you think Mr. Zogby?
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siamao
10:17 PM on 05/08/2010
Thanks for this excellent article, James Zogby, which highlights the widespread tendency in
this country to genericize all or most activities in much of the Middle East and certain parts
of Asia with the preface of "Muslim." Point well taken -- and appreciated.