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Chick-fil-A: Why the Outrage Now?

Posted: 08/07/2012 11:44 am

I promised myself I wasn't going to get into this Chick-fil-A debate and had hoped it would all blow over. However, since it is still lingering, why not join the fray?

As someone very much for marriage equality, I was disappointed (but not surprised) when Chick-fil-A's CEO came out against same-sex marriage. I say "not surprised" because, really, who was surprised? Chick-fil-A was founded on Christian beliefs (they're closed on Sunday, for goodness' sake) and founded in the South (an area of the country lagging behind the rest when it comes to gay marriage). It also hasn't been a well-kept secret that they support causes, with monetary donations, that advance the agendas they believe in.

This all begs the question: Why the outrage now?

I don't understand how intelligent, well-informed, friends of mine, who have eaten at Chick-fil-A for years are now suddenly boycotting them. Their knowledge of the fast food's chains beliefs haven't changed. They've known they were eating at a religious conservative institution. Is it because it is suddenly the trendy thing to do? Or has the guilt finally caught up with them and they don't want to be seen entering and exiting a Chick-fil-A?

I suppose that is all well and good, and if you want to boycott Chick-fil-A that is certainly your prerogative. Though, how do you justify boycotting them, but not boycotting other companies?

Take Domino's Pizza. If you're boycotting Chick-fil-A, I hope you're boycotting them, too. Domino's founder financed a 2001 ballot initiative to remove sexual orientation from Ypsilanti, Michigan's nondiscrimination ordinance.

Or how about Urban Outfitters? A popular place for people my age (many of them liberally minded) has a president and CEO who has given money to Rick Santorum, a Congressman (and former presidential candidate) who is vocally and unequivocally against marriage equality.

You also can't get cheap goods at Walmart, who, while the largest retailer of books in the country, refuses to carry LGBT-related titles. They also, in 2008, left the National Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce after certain groups threatened a boycott.

I could go on and on (if you're curious about more companies who do not practice equality the Human Rights Campaign compiles them every year).

Bottom line, I'm glad people are passionate about this issue. But boycotting isn't the answer, even if it makes you feel good. If all you're doing is boycotting some chicken and not looking at the real fundamental problems in our society contributing to the lack of equality, then you're really not doing anything to help the problem.

Want to actually make a difference? Instead of staging "kiss-ins" or yelling at employees of Chick-fil-A (a note: Chick-fil-A is made up of employees and franchise owners who don't have to have the same views as their CEO; you're punishing them and not the head honchos with your boycotts) why don't you write your Congressperson? Or you could donate to a gay rights nonprofit or volunteer your time at one.

Chick-fil-A, even with its donations, is not the main problem. It is the culture of our citizens and our government, which would actively view a group of people as second-class because they are perceived as "different." That's what needs to change.

So enjoy your boycott of this relatively unhealthy fast food, which you probably shouldn't be eating anyways. While you're out there giving up your waffle fries for gay rights (a true sacrifice, some of you on Facebook would have me believe) I'm going to continue to give money to the HRC and write Congressional representatives. That's where real change to the laws of our country regarding marriage equality (whether fortunately or not) will happen. Not with where you buy your lemonade.

 

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I promised myself I wasn't going to get into this Chick-fil-A debate and had hoped it would all blow over. However, since it is still lingering, why not join the fray? As someone very much for marria...
I promised myself I wasn't going to get into this Chick-fil-A debate and had hoped it would all blow over. However, since it is still lingering, why not join the fray? As someone very much for marria...
 
 
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02:08 PM on 08/13/2012
Your perspective is admirable and if only everyone could see the world the way you do, but that's not the case.. You leave too little mention of the power of the media publicity in this case. Many Americans had been ideologically opposed to the man in the first place, but needed a little motivation to express their feelings. As far as progressive intellectuals go, we should all be like you. But for the average American in favor of marriage equality, the Chick-fil-a event has been very stimulating and, therefore, beneficial.
04:08 PM on 08/08/2012
So I got to thinking the other day. Part of the fervor of this issue is where one's money goes after it is spent. In the USA, companies are regarded as people now too. Can a company now then tell its employees where they can and can't shop, since its company's money that's going to pay the employees in the first place?
02:47 PM on 08/08/2012
Three ideas that are ruining this once great country and society.... Acceptance, Tolerance, and Equality.... All are just covers and justifications for choosing what is wrong over what is right.. A storm is coming; either down out the heavens from the Good Lord or a Rising up by His True Christian followers here on earth...
02:39 PM on 08/08/2012
Three ideas that have ruined this once great country... Acceptance, Tolerance, and Equality.. All are just covers for choosing what is wrong over what is right..
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10:36 AM on 08/08/2012
As many people have mentioned, the HRC is far from representative of diverse LGBTQ issues. Other people have eloquently expounded on the "whys" of this statement, but I won't get into it here.

Anyway...

The CFA incident happened at a particular moment in history. Momentum is finally behind marriage equality. Popular beliefs--especially among young people--are changing.

As such, there has been a huge, ugly backlash. Many people are sick of it and not going to swallow what CFA and like companies are serving anymore.

Moreover, a lot of LGBTQ folks and allies are learning that their voices can make a difference.

That's why people are speaking up now and will continue to do so.
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07:51 AM on 08/08/2012
Well, you almost had me, but I found a lot of your arguments to be ingenuous. Ending it with how you are going to keep contributing to HRC, you lost me. I won't go into the reasons why (I've detailed them before), but HRC DOES NOT SPEAK FOR ME. Okay, that said, I must respectfully mention a few things.

First, the real reason CFA started closing on Sundays had nothing to do with employees going to church (the company's official line) and everything to do with health inspectors (back in 1946) threatening to close the first store down if Truett Cathy didn't clean up the mess; he was a lousy manager).

Next, why should I spend my money with companies trying to deny me rights? That seems silly to me. I haven't been to a CFA in 25 years (thanks to Truett Cathy's in my face--literally--spewed anti-Semitism). I've never set foot in a Wal-Mart (and don't plan to). I've never been to Urban Outfitters (I'm the wrong demographic anyway). Domino's Pizza? Papa John's? Pul-leez. Not buying from these hate-mongering outfits is easy; their pizza is lousy.

Seriously, I think boycotts are one effective way to send a message. But I do more. I lobbied my state senator (when I lived in New York) to vote for marriage equality. I show up at rallies when I can (I'm partially disabled so it's not always easy). I do. You write. You praise HRC. I know better.
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10:16 AM on 08/08/2012
f/fd! Well said!
10:22 AM on 08/08/2012
Wow, I want to know so much more.

I agree with the sentiment that boycotts alone aren't going to change the world. People still need be using other ways to express themselves but a boycott is a good easy start for some people.
02:34 AM on 08/08/2012
You really can't judge a company on the HRC corporate equality index. I work for a company that got a failing grade simply because they refused to take the HRC survey. This company gives the domestic partners of LGBT employees the exact same benefits they give to employee spouses.
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Kofender
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07:37 AM on 08/08/2012
I personally don't trust anything from HRC (long story about its inherent dishonesty), but I do indeed withhold my money from any company known to be anti-equality. (The corporate parent of the place I work is so pro-equality it sponsors its own LGBTQ group and posts its activities and events on the daily emails we receive from Corporate.)
02:31 AM on 08/08/2012
the author must have some pretty dumb friends on her fb feed if people are complaining about giving up waffle fries. and of course the appreciation day had far greater numbers because are a fractio of the pop and we're never united or as organized as those against us. and i don't think anyone in the lgbt community thinks we're going to put CFA out business but we have to make bring attention to our cause when and where we can.

and no where in the lgbt community have i heard that the boycott or kiss-in are the final word on the subject so i wish people would stop writing about how dumb those ideas were. we have to use what litle sway we can to make a point.

and as for writing to your congressman, what if your congressman is Michelle Bachman, what are your bright ideas then?
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01:31 AM on 08/08/2012
The chick fil a argument is a funny one , considering the LGBT does not have to fight for equality due to it being in the constitution. It seemed some of the educated masses did not do any reading to understand the purpose of the boycott which was due to the company donating money to hate groups not because he spoke his opinion. The conservatives put down their jugs of moonshine crawled out from their trailers and flocked to support jesus and the first amendment in an attempt to show "the gays" who is the majority and that they will prevent gay marriage from going through, as I said these rednecks forgot to read what the boycott was about. As America watched scores of obese rednecks stuff their face gleaming with the grease of pride and feeling relevant and accomplished. I enjoyed giving the less fortunate their day in the sun but at the big boy table all we got to observe was a group falling for a publicity stunt and throwing what few dollars they earn to a corporation that helps them destroy their already abused bodies with fatty unhealthy food. It was a true display of gluttony and pride yet they accomplished nothing more than looking foolish and gaining a few pounds then it was back to their trailer park to gloat and carry on being irrelevant in the real world.
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08:49 PM on 08/07/2012
I always love when Steven Wells comments! TY !!
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09:06 AM on 08/09/2012
He's my favorite to read!
08:36 PM on 08/07/2012
I see exactly where you're coming from with this and feel the exact same way. Well said!
08:16 PM on 08/07/2012
"actively view a group of people as second-class because they are perceived as 'different.' " How can you base a viewpoint on a description as simple-minded as that? I've read a lot of statements opposing same-sex marriage and nothing that says, "Well, gays are second-class because they're different." No wonder you take the opposite viewpoint: You have no idea what the arguments are on the other side.
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05:53 PM on 08/07/2012
Jamison Doran, would this be the same article if CFA were funding or supporting anti-jewish groups or groups that want to bring back segregation? would you still be telling black people to go to CFA because it creates jobs?
04:21 PM on 08/07/2012
I don't really get the point of this writing. Are you advocating for a return to business as usual? Why are you assuming that we do not know about Walmart, Dominos, anything on the Mormon Index, and/or others that seek our demise? The biggest difference between the CFA issue and those is that Chick-fil-a president Cathy actually buys the bullets for LGBT by donating to causes that support international "execution of LGBT" in countries such as Uganda. Not only are they seeking legislation to criminalize our lives and families, but they seek to execute us. If you don't see that as a problem, I don't think any amount of words minus internment would help you.
06:01 PM on 08/07/2012
Misinformation will be the death of both sides of this issue.
"FRC did not lobby against or oppose passage of the congressional resolution," the group said. "FRC's efforts, at the request of Congressional offices, were limited to seeking changes in the language of proposed drafts of the resolution, in order to make it more factually accurate regarding the content of the Uganda bill." "FRC does not support the Uganda bill, and does not support the death penalty for homosexuality - nor any other penalty which would have the effect of inhibiting compassionate pastoral, psychological, and medical care and treatment for those who experience same-sex attractions or who engage in homosexual conduct,"
04:02 PM on 08/07/2012
Chick fil a has their beliefs and the gays have theirs. Live and let live. If the gays would quit trying to turn everyone there would be less conflicts.
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05:52 PM on 08/07/2012
Live and let live is one thing, but I am not going to give them a penny so that they can do that.
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11:13 PM on 08/07/2012
Oh, you poor petal! Those mean gay people, trying to gay-marry you all the time - must be AWFUL.