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Jan Herman

Jan Herman

Posted: November 7, 2008 12:27 PM

Bob's Your Uncle


Because of something Ralph Nader said on Election Day -- he asked whether Barack Obama was going to be an Uncle Sam or an Uncle Tom -- I feel obliged to take note of an interview (as posted on YouTube) that Nader did shortly afterward with Fox Report news anchor Shepard Smith, who was shocked by the remark.

Here's my transcription of the interview, followed by my own conclusion. I've also embedded the YouTube video because it conveys the nuances of tone, showing at least to my eyes and ears that Smith was calm, levelheaded, and wholly different from his bombastic colleagues at Fox (despite what looks in print like an excited opening that attempts to bait Nader).

SMITH: Guess who's here? The Independent Party candidate Ralph Nader. This is his second run for the presidency since he played spoiler in the close 2000 contest. This year he was on the ballot in 45 states, plus D.C. This year he was polling about one percent. Ralph, you spoke to Fox News radio's Houston affiliate today and said this [sound excerpt of Nader]:

To put it very simply, he is our first African-American president, or he will be. And we wish him well. But his choice, basically, is whether he's going to be Uncle Sam for the people of this country or Uncle Tom for the giant corporations.

Really. Ralph Nader, what was that?

NADER: It's very simple. He has gone along with corporate power from the moment he entered politics in the [Illinois] state senate. Voted for the Wall Street bailout. Supports expanding the military budget that is desired by the military-industrial complex. Doesn't really have a tax-reform thing for the ordinary fellow in this country. Opposes single-payer full Medicare for all because the giant HMOs, Aetna and Signa, do. Doesn't have a living wage [policy]. He's supposed to be respectful of the poor. Hardly mentions them in his speech. It's all the middle class.

SMITH: You talk "respectful" and you utter the words "Uncle Tom"? Are you kidding me?

NADER: That's the question. Yeah, that's the question he's got to face. He's the first African American --

SMITH: He didn't have to face it until it came out of your mouth. I just wonder if you don't realize you had a number of supporters out there. You were running a percentage [sic]. This year you were reduced to irrelevant, and I just wonder now if that's what you want your legacy to be: The man who on the night that the first African-American president in the history of this nation was elected you ask if he is going to be Uncle Sam or Uncle Tom.

NADER: Yeah, of course. He's turned his back on a hundred million poor people in this country -- African Americans and Latinos and poor whites -- and we're going to hold him to a higher standard. It's just not an unprecedented career move in[to] the White House. We expect more of Barack Obama. It's his big chance --

SMITH: You were reduced to irrelevance here. You weren't able to play spoiler. Will you run again?

NADER: Look, I don't like bullies like you. I can't see you. You can pull the plug on me. I'm look at a dark camera.

SMITH: You said "Uncle Tom. I didn't say it, sir. With respect, I did not say it.

NADER: I said, that's the question he has to answer. He can become a great president, or he can become a toady for the powers that have brought both parties to their knees against working people in this country, and have allowed our country to be highjacked by global corporations who have no allegiance to this country other than to ship its jobs and industries to fascist and communist dictators abroad who know how to keep their workers in their place. This is reality here. This is not show business. It's not celebrity politics. There are people suffering in this country. We expect a great presidency from Barack Obama, and we're going to try and hold his feet to the fire.

SMITH: I just wonder if in hindsight you wish you used a phrase other than "Uncle Tom"?

NADER: Not at all.



My own take is that I understand Nader's points about policy and agree with him, but he should have offered some kind of apology for the personal nature of his attack on Obama, or at least said something to clarify what could be heard -- and doubtless was heard not just by Smith -- as a racist remark.

Because of something Ralph Nader said on Election Day -- he asked whether Barack Obama was going to be an Uncle Sam or an Uncle Tom -- I feel obliged to take note of an interview (as posted on YouTube...
Because of something Ralph Nader said on Election Day -- he asked whether Barack Obama was going to be an Uncle Sam or an Uncle Tom -- I feel obliged to take note of an interview (as posted on YouTube...
 
 
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SharonWantsToTalk
11:49 PM on 11/07/2008
Ralph has been a tireless advocate for the marginalized of this nation. He deserves his place in history. What ever is going on with him now, is not a true reflection of his legacy.
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vincefango
Savior of Lost Kittens and Generally Thirsty
06:09 PM on 11/07/2008
Seriously Ralph? Being a consumer advocate and a corporate watchdog, you can help us by remaining vigilant, but these remarks are just nonsense. Your points are lost in your insulting tone. You could've called him a corporate cronie, or a stooge or whatever, if you were trying to be shocking....but questioning if he is gonna be an Uncle Tom?
04:39 PM on 11/07/2008
Ralph says
"Yeah, of course. He's turned his back on a hundred million poor people in this country -- African Americans and Latinos and poor whites -- and we're going to hold him to a higher standard. "

The truth - which you no longer see, Ralph - is that you abandoned millions of people who once saw you as a source of wisdom and strength - by your refusal to stand with us for the common good . I, for one, fail to see what you have done for us lately - and by that I mean post 1960's

We taught our children well. They bring us a new day, time for a new generation with a reinvigorated swell of democracy. All superegos who place themselves above the good of the country, Stand down... your 15 minutes are over.
03:36 PM on 11/07/2008
Poor Ralph.

He's actually right about some points -- Obama has been far more corporatist and money-friendly than most of us progressives want to admit.

But by using racially-loaded terms (although he was actually correct, since if Obama acts placatory towards the money interests, that would very much be in line with Harriet Beecher Stowe's work), his message got lost. This is one of the reasons Nader will never be President; he doesn't know how or when to shut up and do the dance.
02:13 AM on 11/08/2008
I suggest that you go back and re-read Uncle Tom's Cabin or at least read it for the first time, since there has been no greater literary mischaracterization than that the appropriation of Uncle Tom as a description for someone who betrays his race. In point of fact Tom was killed because he wouldn't whip a fellow slave.

But I digress. Why is it that candidates like Bill Clinton who were raised under poor circumstances are never accused of being "Uncle Tom's" for "betrayal" of their class? Why are only African American's subject to, as Mr. Nader puts it, a higher standard?
03:32 PM on 11/07/2008
It is obvious that Ralph Nader says what he thinks, but doesn't think about what he says. Until people within his area of the political spectrum (and I am between him and the center in my views) have some sensitivity about how their ideas and causes are expressed, they will never be more than a blip on the political radar. All the ideas that are now commonly accepted (unemployment insurance, Social Security, Medicare) started as "crazy, left-wing, socialist" ideas, and those in the McCain camp who tried to play the "socialist" card were laughed off the political stage. Ralph would do better to work within the party system than try to stand in the wings and heckle. Obama can be an ally, but not if you call him names.