"Experts" on the Blogosphere: Ditch Bai, Give Us Boehlert

Posted January 23, 2008 | 11:52 AM (EST)



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Eric Boehlert has a fantastic, carefully researched piece up at Media Matters documenting how a comment made by Rachel Maddow on the night of the New Hampshire primary made its way through the blogosphere and ended with Chris Matthews apologizing for the strange sexist ramblings about Hillary Clinton, which may in fact have contributed to her victory there.

It's characteristic of Boehlert's work, as Eric has taken years to really try and understand the blogospheric counter-narrative, how it gets constructed and how it travels. His book Lapdogs is indispensable to anyone trying to puzzle their way through the blogs.

So why oh why do people keep asking Matt Bai to speak about the blogosphere? His truly awful book was a sales disaster... and deservedly so. It was written to appeal to mainstream media types, and anyone predisposed to like its smug, condescending tone and superficial analysis, who no doubt got their copy for free. Matt Bai doesn't actually do research, Matt Bai just finds opportunities to talk about his preconceived notions of a blogosphere that don't exist.

Take, for instance, the recent PBS documentary on the Lieberman/Lamont and Donna Edwards races (timestamp 11:00):

Hinajosa: [Al] Wynn actually has gotten very high approval ratings from some kind of grass roots organizations. NARAL for example, civil rights... So people would say well "he looks like a good Democrat."

I thought my head was going to explode. Surely anyone who has spent even a day in the blogs knows what a battle we wage against groups like NARAL who rubber stamp establishment people like Joe "Short Ride" Lieberman, and how they told their members to thank him for his vote that put Samuel Alito on the bench. Good lord, there have to be a gazillion blog posts about how these interest organizations have long ago forgotten what they were there for and are a huge part of the problem progressives face in Washington DC, sucking up all the money and enabling establishment hacks like Wynn against people like Donna who would actually fight for their cause.

Hell, I wouldn't even expect Bai to know about the vote Wynn took with Republicans to allow people who blow up abortion clinics to escape legal judgments by declaring bankruptcy, something Donna Edwards would never have done. (Though it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect that someone passing themselves off as an "expert" might.)

Instead, this is Bai's answer:

Bai: Well ideology here is very hard to parse out.

Check the look on his face. He has absolutely no idea what to say, so he reaches for his trusty axe and starts grinding:

Bai: These progressives are focused on a method of governing, that is, are you working with Republicans or are you voting the party line every time are you stopping everything Republicans tried to do or are you making compromises and if you tried to work out an agreement, or if you voted outside the party ranks they consider that a betrayal.

Because that's Bai's personal thesis, which has absolutely nothing to do with the question he's been asked.

His tired mantra doesn't even make any sense on the face of it. Progressives in the blogosphere battle the Democrats all the time, encouraging legislators to break away from what the party brahmins are trying to enforce. We have values, things that are important to us, strong ideologies that we fight for. What we get pissed off about is when the party doesn't hold its ranks together to support those values, and that usually starts with leadership. But Bai is always peddling this stupid assertion that things would just get better if only we'd let Democrats be free to "work out an agreement." Who exactly does he suppose is going to work with you toward children's health care or ending the war? The Republicans?

Bai's narcissistic attempts to circle the conversation back around to his favorite subject, "and now a little more about Matt Bai," are always tedious and guaranteed to be insight-free.

When Eric Boehlert is available, who truly does know what he's talking about, why would anybody bother?

Jane Hamsher blogs at firedoglake.com

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- MinerSam See Profile I'm a Fan of MinerSam

Mathews is only 30-40% accurate and It's remarkable how much power this Psyhologically Abusive, self proclaimed Republican alcoholic Chris Mathews has. Not to mention along the other pillar of the dumming down of America Tim Russert!

But I wonder whether or how accurately it was reported that in the lead up to the PREVIOUS MSNBC debate is when Mathews began his daily Abusive attacks (and projections) upon Hillary CliNton.

And while Obama and Edwards are responible for their own action for reponding to the Juvenile Male style challanges from Mathews to attack Hillary...

It was Tim Russert who then handed them the ERRONEOUS ASSERTIONS and REPUBLICAN TALKING POINTS that changed the entire atmotphere of the Democratic campaign 3 months ago.

But it is not Ob&Ed' fault that it all became a daily CASCACDE OF ERRONEOUS ASSERTIONS ABOUT HILLARY in most outlets.

Meanwhile Mathews and Russert concluded that terrible night trashing Social Security as a Ponzy scheme...while failing to point out that since Russert and Mathews got their 2001 Tax cuts the Republicans spent 1.4Trillion of the Social Security SURPLUS!

And while Russert (who is an insult to the intelligence of every intelligent person) consistantly uses Republican Talking Points and out of context Quotes to challange Democrats (while soft speaking Republicans)
IT IS AMAZING HOW HIS AND MATHEWS LIES ALWAYS END UP not only in places like Washington Week and CNN (Which is also to Journalism what Painting by numbers is to Art) but eveywhere AS THOUGH FACT!

It is time to remove Russert and Mathews off the stage with a big hook, as nobody voted for them AND WE DO NOT NEED ANY MORE PSYCHOLOGIAL ABUSING OF THE ELECTORATE. We should replace them all and replace them with non-dysfunctionals who actually have a handle on the facts.

They are the tools of the GE/TVs/Time Warner etc...That acts like a second Virulent Oppositin Party against the Democrats, with their partners the American Fascist Republican Party.

NH Woment voted for Hillary because they BECAME INFORMED IN THE INTIMATE SETTNG OF THE CAMPAIGN.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 01/24/2008
- CMK See Profile I'm a Fan of CMK

Jane great post,Boehlert piece today at MM says it all about the media coverage and how well he followed the subject of Twitty and what he did and is still doing I hope HRC wins in SC maybe that will shut up both Bai and Matthews.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 01/23/2008
- salmo See Profile I'm a Fan of salmo

The key is which people are asking for Matt Bai vs Eric Boehlert. Those from traditional media are asking for their cohort, and they will continue to do so as long as the choice is theirs. The good news is that the change is coming.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 PM on 01/23/2008
- colleen2 See Profile I'm a Fan of colleen2

"His truly awful book was a sales disaster... and deservedly so. It was written to appeal to mainstream media types, and anyone predisposed to like its smug, condescending tone and superficial analysis, who no doubt got their copy for free. Matt Bai doesn't actually do research, Matt Bai just finds opportunities to talk about his preconceived notions of a blogosphere that don't exist."


Pot-kettle....very black
While no friend of Bai I must say this accurately describes the 'leadership' of Daily Kos and it's affiliate blogs (which is to say the entire membership of the Townhouse list. Third rate political operatives and/or 4th rate lawyers, all of them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 PM on 01/23/2008
- Muc See Profile I'm a Fan of Muc

Who in the hell is Matt Bai?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:34 PM on 01/23/2008
- WorkingClass See Profile I'm a Fan of WorkingClass

Thanks Jane. You are one of a few people I trust.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 01/23/2008
- martinspringfield See Profile I'm a Fan of martinspringfield

Well, Jane I have been wondering along the same lines why Chris Matthews even has a TV show when you and Glenn Greenwald are available. Or why the NYT hires the likes of Kristol when Digby is available.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 01/23/2008
- StephenSmoliar See Profile I'm a Fan of StephenSmoliar

Jane, the funny thing is that I have been trying to work out similar questions on my own blog:

http://therehearsalstudio.blogspot.com/2008/01/language-and-fear.html

This led to my taking a title from Joan Didion and twisting into something more long-winded but also more to the point: we tell ourselves stories to convince ourselves of propositions without bothering over whether or not they are true. See, it does not matter if skilled analysts like Boehlert get at the truth when folks like Bai tell better stories, even when backed into a logical corner. I would have thought that this would have been obvious to a "media insider" like yourself!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 01/23/2008
- soupcity See Profile I'm a Fan of soupcity

Thanks Jane, excellent piece. Boehlert is so deserving of more attention.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 01/23/2008
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