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Are Harry And Sally Still Happily Married?

Posted: 04/25/2012 12:20 pm

It starts out so well in the movies. Boy meets girl. Boy and girl fall in love. Hearts patter on until about three quarters of the way in, when boy and girl break up due to some obstacle that threatens to keep them apart. They wallow in their heartache until the last seven minutes of the flick when boy or girl realize the foolishness of his or her ways. With little time to spare, the protagonist rejects all modern technology and travels over bridges and through airports, by foot, cab or horse, to the place where the other is, just in time to declare their eternal love. The credits and final track roll on and we exit the theater with our hearts high from the happily-ever-after ending. Once again, love conquers all! But does it? If 50 percent of marriages end in divorce, what are the chances that Harry and Sally are still going strong?

Fueled by my happy 20-year marriage and a long stint writing romantic comedies, I have always considered myself a die-hard romantic, until recently, when a project involving meeting and interviewing divorcees' opened my eyes. I began to wonder if the Hollywood ending is partially to blame for the divorce rate. Does Hollywood create a false expectation that love conquers all? Does the "meet cute" story line have some play in the long-term success or demise of a marriage? Maybe it would help to realize that we do not know what happens to the happy couple after we leave the theater. Perhaps that pair that we yearn to emulate are not even together by the time their movie is available on Netflix. It's not as if we are on Harry and Sally's Christmas card list or can check their relationship status on Facebook.

The reasons that people divorce are usually far from original and, with few exceptions, can be smacked into five well-known categories:

1. Money problems
2. In-law problems.
3. Trust issues.
4. False or altered expectations.
5. And the anti-Hollywood ending: One or both is no longer in love.

Taking this into account, one can actually foresee which movie couples will make it to the romantic, till-death-do-us-part ending of Ryan Gosling and Rachel McAdams' characters in "The Notebook" or divorce court like George Clooney and Catherine Zeta-Jones in "Intolerable Cruelty." Perhaps my predictions will help put the Hollywood ending into perspective.

Let's start with one of my all-time favorite movies, "The Graduate." I know they had tremendous passion and a killer soundtrack, but since Romeo and Juliet, there has not been a couple laden with more complicated in-law issues than Benjamin Braddock and Elaine Robinson. Add the fact that Ben seemingly has no intention of getting a job in "plastics" or anything else and that Elaine did not seem to finish her studies at Berkeley -- money problems are sure to play a part in their demise as well.

Another goner, though it pains me to say it, is Sabrina, the chauffeur's daughter from the 1954 and 1995 movies of the same name. Sabrina and Linus are completely mismatched and not just in the clichéd upstairs-downstairs kind of way. They have little in common and will undoubtedly have trouble meeting each other's expectations. I doubt that the beauty and charm of both Sabrina and Paris in the springtime will sustain Linus much past his first missed merger. Sadly, I believe that Sabrina will wake up some day soon and see the grumpy old man twice her age lying beside her for what he really is; a grumpy old man, twice her age, lying beside her. Disney's "Lady and the Tramp" may have suffered a similar fate, though they probably stuck it out for the sake of the puppies.

While I don't think Julia Robert's "Pretty Woman" is turning tricks again, I find it hard to believe that she is dropping her kids off at an Upper East Side preschool and picking out ties for Edward at Barneys. Still, I do believe it is plausible that Roberts is nuzzled up with Hugh Grant and a good book in "Notting Hill."

Rhett and Scarlett of "Gone with the Wind": Married. Frankly, I don't give a damn that they weren't together at the end of the movie. Those two belong together.

Frances "Baby" Houseman and Johnny Castle of "Dirty Dancing": They may have had the "Time of Their Lives," but I am pretty sure that's all it was.

Jack and Lucy from "While You Were Sleeping": Married. A perfect match on all counts.

Jack and Annie from the action-packed "Speed": Relationships that start under such intense circumstance rarely last. Don't believe me? Try to find Keanu Reeves in the sequel, "Speed 2."

Fiona and Shrek in "Shrek": Positively happily ever after.

Sandy Olsen and Danny Zuko in "Grease": Divorced, but in the fashion of Bernard Slade's "Same Time Next Year," meet under the boardwalk each August for some "Summer Lovin'."

And while I hope the widower Sam found love again with Annie in "Sleepless in Seattle," with barely two minutes of shared screen time, it's hard to predict their staying power. But don't be discouraged. I am pretty sure from my short stint peering into the world of divorce there is a great chance that Meg Ryan has an even better gig than the one in rainy Seattle. I am confident that her Sally will be strolling through Central Park with Harry until they are old and gray and cast in the remake as one of those sentimental old couples retelling their "meet cute" story to a whole new generation of hopeless romantics.

 
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It starts out so well in the movies. Boy meets girl. Boy and girl fall in love. Hearts patter on until about three quarters of the way in, when boy and girl break up due to some obstacle that threaten...
It starts out so well in the movies. Boy meets girl. Boy and girl fall in love. Hearts patter on until about three quarters of the way in, when boy and girl break up due to some obstacle that threaten...
 
 
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Edogg62
02:46 PM on 04/30/2012
I believe it's a list of three main components... money, in-laws and (how was THIS one left out?) sex (or rather, NO sex). Currently I'm dealing with 2-3 of these at any one time... mostly money/sex for me personally. Sigh. I foresee another foray into the wonderful world of singles' life in the near future sadly. Oh well...
10:28 PM on 04/28/2012
Anyone who tells you marriage is "Happy Ever After" has quaint( read destroyed) houses in Detroit to sell. Marriage is work. I have been at it for 30 years, and while I would never trade Him( yes, HIM) ever, we fight. Not often, but we still piss each other off on occasion and guess what? We go to bed in the SAME bed each night. I love this guy and he has provided for me and our children wonderfully! I'm still crazy in love with him and he is with me, which is why we get passionate in our fighting. We actually call each other on our B.S. Honesty....
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Omamac
07:26 PM on 04/28/2012
Since they were fictional characters (although the movie was great), what difference could their continuing marital status possibly make?
07:16 PM on 04/28/2012
When I read the title I thought it was talking about Harry Styles. Lol oops my bad.
06:57 PM on 04/28/2012
The greatest love story and the greatest love scene of all time was played by Jimmy Stewart and Donna Reed in the movie: It's a wonderful life.
How romantice can it get when Donna is looking up at Jimmy during the phone call while Jimmy is trying so desperately to deny that he is so in love with her as she is in his arms so misty and teary eyed.
And then, bada boom! bada bing! They embrace for what undoubtedly would be an every ending love.
04:48 PM on 04/28/2012
The 50 percent divorce rate has always been a myth. It started from an erroneous interpretation of a statistic that counted the divorces that happened in one year compared to marriages that occured in the same year. It didn't take into account all of the marriages that already existed.

There are many more divorces now that there were in, say, the fifites, but 50% of marriages do not end in divorce.
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04:33 PM on 04/28/2012
I always thought Ned & Stacey should not have ended the way it did. If folks here are speculating that Rhett's walkout on Scarlett might not be so permanent after all...maybe Ned's walkout wouldn't have been either?? :.D They admitted to love each other, Ned was clearly in love with Stacey, as different as those 2 were, it could've worked...that deserved more than ending with them going their seperate ways pining over what could've been.
04:18 PM on 04/28/2012
Ben and Elaine would never have made it as a couple. Every time they had a disagreement, she'd throw back the fact that he slept with her mother. You can't unring THAT bell.
06:37 PM on 04/28/2012
Does she know that, though?
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redwingirish
03:33 PM on 04/28/2012
Are you married or happy? That will answer the question!
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kmc528
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04:10 PM on 04/28/2012
I am no longer married, and happier than I ever was while I was married. I've been resisting men wanting to drag me down the aisle for 15 years, because none of the applicants were worth giving up my blissful singlehood for. It is NOT necessary for a woman to be married in order to be happy, unless she was brainwashed from childhood to believe that a woman must be a wife and mother to have any value.
09:07 PM on 04/28/2012
If I woman wishes to remain single, that is her choice and her right. That is not, however, an indictment of those women who not only want to be married, but make their marriages work. Marriage is a commitment and takes two to succeed. By the way, no one can "drag" you down the ailse. Either you go willingly or you do not (even brides who are pressured into marriage, ultimately have the choice of saying "I DON'T.). For you, singlehood is the right choice. For others, marriage is the right choice. Neither is "brainwashed from childhood." Individual value comes from within, not placed there by an auctioneer.
05:34 PM on 04/28/2012
The first time I wanted to get married, in the 80's, I was happily cohabitating with her several months before she told me she was still married. By the time we broke up several years later, all the available women had already been divorced once or twice. Once I finally did marry, to a woman who had been divorced 4 times, I was happy for ten years, now I'm unhappily divorced. Some of us were just never meant to have it all permanently, though life can be richly rewarding in other ways. It's enabled me, for instance, to see the world. I do applaud, and envy, all who have it all, though. My multi-tasking baby birthin' physican niece has four children, including toddler twins, so Daddy conducts business from home to be able to provide consistent primary care. I think most people who think marriage and happiness are mutually exclusive have just never known or seen happy marriages, and, perhaps, that most of the couples in happy marriages were products of happy marriages. That doesn't mean perfect, it doesn't exist. If you have to have perfection to be happy, you'll never be happy anyway, married or single.
TeaParty Mike
Illigitmi non Carborundum
02:50 PM on 04/28/2012
Harry and Sally divorced after 10 sexless years. Sally got so desperate, she had an affair with Eddie Murphy's African Prince character.
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redwingirish
03:35 PM on 04/28/2012
...and it turned out that Harry was sexually challenged had had an affair with michael jackson!
02:49 PM on 04/28/2012
Marriage at this time in the universe should be in 10 year increments; at that time, you can again sign up or go your separate ways. If you have a child, then you immediately add 18 years to your
sentence (errrrrr, agreement). Divorce is nasty and wayyyyy over-priced (esp if you have 'funds.')
06:41 PM on 04/28/2012
I've thought about this before, and I think ten-year contracts would fundamentally transform the relationship and make it harder to have a deep relationship. Around year 8 or 9, you'd be spending all your time looking over your shoulder to decide if your partner was going to leave and it might make you look for someone. And if you happened to be going through a difficult time then, you'd just decide to leave instead of work on it. In fact, if you had a rough patch at year 7, you'd probably say, oh well, I can hold out for three years rather than work on things or leave. Knowing that the other person might leave would keep you from ever forming a real partnership where you own property together or move for your partner, etc.

The kid thing would be hard to do, too. If you know you want kids, you're not going to want to put time into a 10 year relationship that might end before you've had kids.
09:09 PM on 04/28/2012
Marriage is either a commitment to each other, which gives one the incentive to weather all storms, or it is a lark into which one breezily goes, thinking one can waltz right on out when the first clouds darken the horizon. While it is true that the divorce rate is high, I still believe in marriage.
02:48 PM on 04/28/2012
I have been wanting to write a book for years about why the lovers in most romance novels are doomed to divorce or other misery. Like the Barbara Cartland books where a wealthy 35 year old tall, dark and silent man falls in love with an innocent 18 year old girl who, for whatever reason, has been kept from society. He is enchanted with her purity and lack of sophistry. Alas, within a few years, after she is introduced to society and becomes just like them, he becomes disillusioned with her and reverts to his playboy ways, while she is maddened with his refusal to talk things out. Romance is an illusion, a neurochemical high that draws us together, but being a high, it necessary can't last. It is only when two people have the maturity to develop good interpersonal communication skills (and maturity in general) that there is any hope for a marriage to last.
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kmc528
I ALWAYS have an opinion....
04:14 PM on 04/28/2012
Alternately, the lack of sophistry results in him getting bored with a woman who's little more than a pretty plaything, and seeking out a woman who is his intellectual equal. I have male friends who have adorable little trophy wives ... and call me whenever they want to have a serious conversation.
02:31 PM on 04/28/2012
Marriage is the triumph of imagination over intelligence
02:24 PM on 04/28/2012
In laws the #2 reason, I doubt that very seriously!
02:09 PM on 04/28/2012
Well if it had been true Sally would of taken Harry to the cleaners (she would of got the gold mine he would get the shaft) because he cheated with his secretary or better still he got caught with his boyfriend). She would of used the money to get a complete make over new boobs etc. and found some other poor sap to annoy. Harry would of drank himself to a slow death.
02:52 PM on 04/28/2012
First, learn how to spell and the use of correct grammar. Saying 'would of taken Harry to the cleaners' should have been 'would have taken Harry to the cleaners.' OK?

She 'would have used the money' instead of your phrase.

Well, your grammar is wayyyy tooo annoying and meaningless as are your comments!
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viking1969
03:38 PM on 04/28/2012
We know you've been divorced a few times.
09:11 PM on 04/28/2012
Com'on. This is not an English/Literature class. This is a blog that asked a question about fictional characters. Jmoore presented one scenario, and you could have presented another instead of taking the opportunity to ridicule JMoore and be the Grammar Police.