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Peggy Orenstein on Girls Trying to Look Grown Up and Adults Trying to Look Girlish

Posted: 11/30/11 12:23 PM ET

The way I see it, every generation of girls is taught to find value and identity through the way we look and the way we impress others. That certainly was the case when I was growing up. Thankfully, when I came of age in the 1960's and 70's the fashion of the day wasn't marked by ultra-thinness and ultra-sexiness. In today's world, according to Peggy Orenstein, contributing writer to the New York Times Magazine, "girls are trying to look like grownups and adults are trying to look girlish." Clearly something is out of whack.

A few weeks ago I had the opportunity to hear Peggy speak at the 21st Annual Renfrew Center Conference. This conference has always been a source of inspiration and empowerment to me and many others psychotherapists throughout the country. Beyond learning about the healing power in the therapist-client relationship, it is here that therapists empower each other to grow, expand conceptual frameworks and discover what really makes a difference in helping women heal and find their way to emotional and physical health. If you aren't a psychotherapist this may seem like a no-brainer, something that one would expect to happen all the time in lots of different venues -- but believe me, it doesn't. It was over a series of years that the speakers at this annual conference gave me the strength and resolve to speak my truth and trust my instincts as a therapist.

This year it was Orenstein who spoke the truth about the new pink and pretty "girlie-girl" culture encouraging girls from infancy onward to believe that how they look matters more than who they are. Describing the upsurge in princess products, the rise in cosmetic use among 6-8 year olds and the ways regular girls present themselves on social media sites, Peggy made it clear that "something is quite wrong in America" when marketers are directing our internal messaging. She cited a Stanford study that shows how activating a young woman's awareness of her body negatively influences her aspirations and sense of confidence, and mentioned findings from a Princeton study indicating that "young women holding leadership positions not only feel the need to be perfect, but to look hot at the same time." As if it isn't hard enough to find our voice and use it, now we have this mandate to be "hot" at the same time.

Marketers will stop at nothing to boost their profits. They seemingly have no moral code. Ten years ago our concern focused on tweens, but evidently that is old school. From the earliest of ages, girls are now being targeted to become overly focused on their bodies, beauty and to think of themselves as sexy. Mothers and fathers beware -- your kids need you to raise your awareness and protect them from the pernicious messages directed at them.

"Once girls learn the performance of sexiness, they never learn the embodiment of their experience," says the author of Cinderella Ate My Daughter: What the New Culture of Girlhood Means to Girls & the Adults Who Care About Them. "Being against sexualization of girls is being pro-sex since sexuality comes from within and early sexualization of girls inhibits the development of becoming internally connected. Learning to understand your desire," Orenstein says, is distinctly different from "learning that you are desirable." Girls are being sold on messages to "be sexy," "be a hotty,""be devilish," years before they have any clue as to how they impact their developing self-image and on the intimate relationships they will eventually want. They are being taught that in building their "brand" they will get the most positive feedback if they are sexy "as long as they don't go too far," warns Orenstein. Sounds to me like a new strategy for promoting misogyny.

This mother of two grown daughters knows that parents of young children are facing an uphill battle. It requires active parenting to teach daughters that "looking good is not a feeling" and that appearance alone doesn't generate self-confidence. It requires active conversation with other adults to heighten awareness of how kids are being manipulated to feel inadequate and obsessed with appearance. And it requires active limit setting to avoid stepping into the traps that ultimately disempower girls as they grow into adult women. Toward these ends, Orenstein suggests a few websites: sparksummit.com, hghw.org, about-face.org, girlsleadershipinstitute.org, & poweredbygirl.org. She reminds all of us that "we need to produce culture" not just passively absorb the one thrust upon us."

For more on this and related topics, click on http://www.selfmatters.org/to_inspire_you.html & http://www.resilientleadership.org

 

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MarcEdward
likes all cats more than most people
05:44 PM on 12/01/2011
My impression is that some girls are just born girly-girls and there's nothing wrong with it.
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Lori Day
Educational psychologist and consultant
07:58 AM on 12/01/2011
Although it was in the title, the role of women trying to look like their daughters wasn't really discussed, but is a huge part of the problem. When mothers give the message that *they* must always look hot, and that "Forever 21" is the age/style/hotness every single female should portray (making girls strive to look and act older, and mothers chase youth and model that behavior), girls also learn this from oms as well as society. Females are under siege in this country by the marketers. No one seems able to act their age. If you are a mother constantly focused on your own looks, clothes, dieting, make-up, is it any wonder your daughter is the same way? We must stop the fat talk, stop the drive-thru Botox treatments, stop dressing like teenagers. Our girls need our guidance and a lot of it if they are to navigate our culture which has made pornography mainstream and where photoshop is the new reality.
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qsfoxx
still chasing the wascally wabbit...
05:08 AM on 12/01/2011
Our daughters, as a group, are not nearly as screwed up as this article would have us believe. Still, dysfunctional parenting is alive and well in our society, and many of the issues discussed can be traced right back to it.
10:55 PM on 11/30/2011
Sometimes it's hard to take women and girls seriously when they are so conflicted within themselves.
09:29 AM on 12/01/2011
Yes, it is. But the conflict within themselves is imposed upon them from culture. The conflicting messages girls receive are staggering. Our culture makes women conflicted so that they won't take themselves seriously, and then no one else will either.
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movingman64
Republicans are faux patriots!!
09:45 PM on 11/30/2011
If you are a caring and good parent you will talk to your daughter and explain to her why an 8 year old should not try to look like a 18 year old!!!
08:51 PM on 11/30/2011
Females should worry about one thing and one thing ONLY.....Looking as HOT as possible!
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sdmartintc
If it's broken, fix it!
12:29 AM on 12/01/2011
You are either a 14 year old boy who thinks only with that thing attached to your crotch or have the mentality of one.
08:43 PM on 11/30/2011
A good parent would explain to their daughters (at a young age... say 10) about media... what it is, its purpose, and why not to buy into it. Likewise, I might add, a good parent would also explain to their SONS (at or around the same age) about society's media and how it exploits females and generally portrays them in a negative way.

I have a 20-yr-old daughter brimming with self-worth and a 22-yr-old son who respects women. Not trying to toot my own horn, just sayin'.
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Lori Day
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07:52 AM on 12/01/2011
You need to begin those media literacy conversations a lot sooner than 10. Start having them as soon as kids can talk with you reciprocally, eg 3 or 4.
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MarcEdward
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05:52 PM on 12/01/2011
ITA, 3-4 is better.
08:39 PM on 11/30/2011
She reminds all of us that "we need to produce culture" not just passively absorb the one thrust upon us."

duh, doh, ya think? Is this something new? HuffPost articles are so degrading.
08:37 PM on 11/30/2011
Women need to stop blaming the media and start blaming themselves. All the media did was buy into feminist notions of empowered women and sexual liberation. The grown women trying to look like girls are responsible for their own immature behavior. The media did not make put on those cut offs. The girls acting devilish are the ones who think they can do whatever they want because nobody is suppose to judge their sexual behavior. The other thing missing from this piece was any mention of the role of fathers. They have a responsibility to move beyond the misguided messages of liberation and remember their job is to teach their daughters how exhibitionist women are really perceived by men.

Putting this in terms of how these girls will affect the pursuit of power in society is misguided. It should solely be focused on how this impacts their ability to form healthy and stable relationships. That means teaching girls how to be a lady so they can attract a gentlemen. The man they choose matters as does the quality of the men attracted to them. Employers are easier to change than husbands.

We also need to teach sexual restraint. Just because you can and want too does not mean you should. Sleeping around objectifies themselves and those they use for sex without a focus on meaningful relationships. The normalization of Women's sexual exploitation of readily available men has had a negative impact on our culture.
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07:49 PM on 11/30/2011
Our daughters have been sold a rotten load of goods by pop culture, media, and women's organizations. It is time for parents to say enough is enough!
07:20 PM on 11/30/2011
It all comes back to the parents. Simple as that. If parents followed through and actually took the time to parent society as a whole would change for the better, but many are not willing to do the work and are more concerned with throwing technology at their kids rather than teach them morals and what life is really about.
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03:55 PM on 11/30/2011
"Thankfully, when I came of age in the 1960's and 70's the fashion of the day wasn't marked by ultra-thinness and ultra-sexiness."

Are you kidding me? Let me rattle off a list of cultural icons of the day in that era, all of which implicitly or explicitly promoted near anorexia or androgyny:

Twiggy
Edie Sedgwick
Cher
Farah Fawcett
The movie "The Turning Point"
Jane Curtain and Lorraine Newman from SNL
Patty Smith
Chrissie Hynde
Cybill Shepherd
Brooke Shields
etc., etc.

I graduated from high school in 1978 and personally knew several girls in my class who were either anorexic or bulimic. Levi's 501 jeans were popular then and we all used to cross out the waist size on the tag so people didn't see how "fat" we were. Anything higher than a 27 or 28 was considered cattle-like. The fashions of the day were rock n' roll, David Bowie and Halston-inspired, form-fitting blouses and hip-hugging pants that were not kind to those with a few extra pounds. I knew girls in college who would pull out the "insides" of bagels and just eat the crusts, or who lived on air-popped popcorn in the dorms.

The pressure to be boyishly thin has been around for as long as I can remember. The only difference today is that our boyishly thin girls wear pink and lacy undies to remind boys what gender they really are.
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08:42 PM on 11/30/2011
I used to want to look like a bony little boy. But not anymore! I love how Helen Kane looks but I'm currently into flapper girls. There are pictures of Helen Kane and she is the picture of perfect health and beauty.
08:43 PM on 11/30/2011
Are you kidding me? Let me rattle off a list of cultural icons of the day in that era, all of which implicitly or explicitly promoted near anorexia or androgyny:

Twiggy
Edie Sedgwick
Cher
Farah Fawcett
The movie "The Turning Point"
Jane Curtain and Lorraine Newman from SNL
Patty Smith
Chrissie Hynde
Cybill Shepherd
Brooke Shields
etc., etc.


>>>seriously? Not one of those woman listed has affected me in any way. I had family to look up to and I still do. As for Levi's and crossing out the waist size...are you kidding me? Like anyone looks at that! I knew fat girls in school that were beautiful and well grounded young women. Get a grip, people!
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inmyhumbleopinion
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11:48 PM on 11/30/2011
I was simply making the point that this is not a new problem, just one that has taken a slightly new form. Fortunately, I never succumbed to the anorexia problem, but our negative body images foisted on us by the media were just as destructive then as they are now.

They are screening a copy of "Miss Representation" at my kids' high school this Friday. I'm going and bringing my daughter.
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GrimAdventures
01:51 PM on 11/30/2011
The topic that you deal with here as way more implications than you address I'm sure your realize. Marketers play way too much of a role in young people's growth and development and in determining what's right, wrong, or valuable.

Many people hopefully are beginning to understand the fact that they're being played. The article here is just one of the many ways. If marketers (corporations) can keep you focused on the external (cars, toys, clothing, makeup) then you won't deal with the internal. That's where your true joy and happiness comes from.
01:48 PM on 11/30/2011
"'Learning to understand your desire,' Orenstein says, is distinctly different from 'learning that you are desirable.'" This is the essence of the problem we face - that we are not giving our children the tools to understand their own experience of their bodies and how that experience is a priceless skill in making powerful decisions. Instead, we draw our children's attention to the perceiver's viewpoint, whether this is attractiveness, sexuality, or food - and train them to be forever vulnerable to marketing messages - and what will please others, whether those others' agendas are in your child's best interest or not. Help your kids ask themselves, "Am I hungry?" "Am I tired?" "Am I mad?" and then respect their answers. They will thank you forever.