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Chanos Crash: Timing China's Financial Meltdown

Posted: 12/06/11 03:39 PM ET

At an October seminar of the Chicago Council on Global Affairs (CCGA), carnival economist Niall Ferguson promoted his new book, Civilization: The West and the Rest. He revealed the blindingly obvious as if it were a divine revelation: the U.S. has serious problems. He preached that the U.S. corrupted its six Ferguson-defined "killer apps": competition, science, rule of law, medicine, the consumer society, and a strong work ethic.

Ferguson claims India and China have downloaded these killer apps and compares the West with a virus infected PC and the East with a fast Mac. Never mind that competition, science, medicine, trade, and industrious workers have been in evidence in India and China for centuries. The West didn't invent these ideas, so perhaps there's more to the story than Ferguson's pat explanation. As for rule of law, that killer app seems as corrupted in the East as it is in the West. Ferguson's crowd-pleasing presentation didn't mention other "killer" apps that are prevalent in China: fraud, high debt levels, and privatizing gains while socializing risks and losses.

Ferguson claims that in 1978 citizens of the U.S. were on average 20 times richer than the citizens of China. Today, U.S. citizens are only five times richer. He apparently defines wealth as acquisition of material goods. That is important, to be sure, and the West should pay careful attention to the material economy. But Ferguson's China supremacy presentation didn't mention the negative human wealth effects of China's one-child policy on the shortage of female mates, the general disregard of public safety, and shortage of essentials like agricultural water and arable land.

Ferguson projects that China will have closed the material goods gap by 2016. This fits right in with popular group-think that China is an unstoppable growth machine. But it is this type of group-think that warned no one about the pending financial crisis in the U.S. in 2008 and now ignores serious potential problems in China.

Bailouts, Railroading, Cover-ups, and the Chinese "Miracle"

China is becoming a version of the U.S., but it's the version that builds lots of Penn Centrals in record time to connect slapped together empty cities before going bankrupt.

When Ferguson claimed China downloaded killer apps from the West, he left out one that is literally a killer in the form of reckless disregard for public safety. China's Ministry of Railroads, an entity with rapidly growing debt of 2.1 trillion yuan ($330 billion), was bailed out when the National Development and Reform Commission announced it had "government support." (See Gordon G. Chang's October 23 article in Forbes.)

The bigger problem is the shoddy construction of China's high speed railroad system, and cover-ups by railroad management. It turns out that railway bridges were constructed by untrained unskilled migrant workers and rocks and gravel were tossed into pier foundations instead of concrete. Unqualified workers also built tunnels. When tunnel problems manifest themselves, they usually involve suffocation of passengers. If you ever wondered how the Chinese can slap together an infrastructure so fast, here's your answer. It literally slaps it together. Fixing the construction problem may ultimately be more costly than having done it properly in the first place. But the social issues are an even bigger disaster for Chinese government.

In July 2011, two bullet trains on the Wenzhou Line crashed. Officials claimed a lightning strike caused the accident, and tried to suppress reports.

After officials claimed everyone was removed from the carriages, bulldozers buried the rubble and onlookers screamed as bodies fell out of the windows of the about-to-be-buried carriages. Then after it was formally announced that all of the bodies in the carriages had been removed, a four-year-old girl was found alive in the wreckage. A spokesman for China's Railway ministry told the reporters shouting at him that it was a "miracle."

Tens of Millions of Mate-less Men

China's population comprises more than 1.3 billion people. According to Unnatural Selection, China has 121 male births for every 100 females, whereas the highest natural ratio is around 106 males per every 100 females. Wikipedia's 2008 figures show that in the under 15 age group, there were already 113 males for every 100 females. I'm sure young men and women have given this ratio at least a passing thought, and it's getting much worse.

Putting aside the issues of selective abortion of female fetuses, female infanticide, and the implications of household formation, this means a growth in the tens of millions of frustrated men dispersed throughout China.

The apparent euphoria of western pundits like Ferguson when discussing China makes me wonder if they downloaded an app for a peculiar kind of dementia. Everything we want or need in life comes to us through our relationships with other people. The quality of our relationships, or human wealth, defines the quality of our lives. Ignoring this is a socio-economic hand job. China is fundamentally impoverished in a way that is irreparable in the short run.

China's Housing Price Crash

There's a myth that low leverage makes a housing price crash immaterial. Many Chinese home buyers pay cash, but others make high down payments. Some reported down payments are as low as 30%; high by U.S. "standards," but still painful when housing prices drop 30%. Some investors have bought multiple properties. Even if one pays upfront in full, a housing price decline has a huge impact on how wealthy investors feel.

Here's the most benign case. Suppose a buyer pays cash for an empty investment property. The buyer still has to maintain the property. If housing prices remain stagnant (or go down), and food prices and other prices escalate (as they have), will that buyer feel richer or poorer? Will he have a higher appetite for liquidity or a lower one? Will other potential investors observe this and want to buy real estate so they can enjoy the same delightful experience?

The critical problem is that home prices in China are sliding fast. Some analysts say the "tipping point" started in September and they expect it to get much worse. Chinese newspapers reported riots in Shanghai after developers slashed prices to dump inventory. Contracted home buyers saw prices cut 25%. Some property developments in Beijing have had price cuts of 20-30 percent. China's empty "ghost cities" are seeing price discounts of 30 percent for upfront cash payments. Mainstream U.S. financial media is now reporting possible housing price declines of 20-30 percent for major Chinese cities next year.

China's Debt and Coming Hard Landing

Nothing creates a hard landing better than a housing collapse. Property construction accounts for more than 13% of China's GDP up from around 3% of GDP in 1999 according to the China National Bureau of Statistics.

Local Chinese governments have mounting debt to fund infrastructure projects of 10.7 trillion yuan ($1.7 trillion) and depend on land sales to fund payments. According to investment management company GMO debt in Local Government Funding Vehicles amounts to around 1/3 of China's GDP. The projected slowdown in land sales will pose a huge problem, no matter whose numbers one uses.

A huge problem in analyzing China's debt problems are off-balance sheet obligations. No one knows the size of local government debt obscured by off-balance sheet vehicles. Hidden national government debt includes "support" such as for the railroad and a variety of other guarantees have ballooned China's real debt.

Then there are the obvious problems with undercapitalized banks. When most people think of "Jim" and "China" they think of China advocate Jim Rogers or China skeptic Jim Chanos. Many people haven't heard of Jim Antos, an analyst at Mizuho Securities in Asia. According to Antos, loan growth has slowed to 15% from 30%, but the unsustainable current level of bank loans stands at $6,500 per capita in 2010. Gross domestic product per capita is $4,400. On a scale of one to ten, he rates China's debt problem an eight and Greece's debt problem a ten.

GMO reports that Fitch estimates that 35% of bank loans are directly or indirectly tied to the Chinese property market, and UBS estimates it at 40-50% of outstanding loans. No matter which is correct, a pullback will be brutal. ("Between Errors of Optimism and Pessimism," by Edward Chancellor, GMO, September 2011, and "China Real Estate--Final Destination," UBS, August 25, 2011.)

These loans don't count active private lending frauds that fleece entire towns and enrich local bureaucrats, accomplices of "property developers" turned con artists.

Swindles have become so commonplace that James Grant, of the Grant's Interest Rate Observer, calls China "The People's Republic of Madoff." Research firm Muddy Waters gives foreign investors ample reasons to be wary. It's been documenting suspicious numbers reported by a plethora of small cap Chinese reverse merger companies listed on foreign exchanges. Muddy Waters' skepticism about a larger company, Sino Forest, caused its stock price to plummet.

If that weren't enough to make investors nervous, Jim Chanos, President and founder of Kynikos, told Bloomberg that many large cap shareholders don't realize that all they have is an operating agreement with mainland companies, not control of hard assets.

China has loaded itself up with debt. Unfortunately for Chinese citizens, China also down-loaded the "killer app" of socializing credit risk. Bank deposits are low yielding and the borrowing rate is either very low or negative which encourages explosive loan growth, also known as a debt bubble. ("China Financial Markets: Time to relax credit?" by Michael Pettis, Guanghua School of Management, Peking University, October 31, 2011.)

As for China's official growth figures, one has to be suspicious of government numbers when ministers have already shown they will try to bulldoze over horrific facts. Discovery of the truth takes a miracle.

When Will Strain Lead to a Crash?

China is on track for making as much of a muddle of its economy as many countries in the West have done. While being a fast-growing creditor country helps mitigate the consequences of its folly, the consequences are catching up with China. Are these problems overstated? That's impossible to tell without reliable numbers. The question to answer is how quickly and to what degree will China's problems affect its economy? After all, one wants to be able to get in a good short trade just before it all falls apart, if that is where this is headed.

Dylan Grice points out that anecdotal evidence can be misleading and China may "keep the plates spinning for a few more years." ("Popular Delusions: On China's swindles: how big is the bezzle?" by Dylan Grice, Societe Generale Cross Asset Research, November 4, 2011.)

It would be useful to come up with a measurement that indicates when things are just about to fall apart. Based on my own anecdotal experience in Iran, one cannot predict the timing of a collapse with certainty, but a good leading indicator is when rats start leaving the sinking ship in droves.

Chanos ("China Chaos") Derivatives

Grice provides a clue for the timing of China's collapse. Since 1990 around 18,000 officials have fled taking an average of around $7 million per flight. Special purpose credit derivatives (perhaps you prefer the term "discredited" derivatives) are a leading indicator for China's hard landing. I call these 'China chaos" derivatives, or "Chanos" derivatives.

If the rate of change of public officials fleeing the country, df/dt > x, where x is yet to be defined, or the acceleration in fleers, d2f/dt2 > y, where y has yet to be defined, or the rate of change of the average amount of loot dl/dt > z, where z is yet to be defined, then conditions of the Chanos Equilibrium have been violated and destabilization will occur.

Stated differently, when you see the absolute amount of embezzled wealth fleeing the country suddenly increase, or when you see a sudden increase in the absolute number of Chinese officials leaving the country on "holiday," or when you see an acceleration in the number of officials leaving the country in a stealthier way, you'll know China is sinking.

See also: "China 2012: The Year of the Bull (Rogers) or the Year of the Bear (Chanos)?" January 9, 2012.

 
 
 
At an October seminar of the Chicago Council on Global Affairs (CCGA), carnival economist Niall Ferguson promoted his new book, Civilization: The West and the Rest. He revealed the blindingly obvious...
At an October seminar of the Chicago Council on Global Affairs (CCGA), carnival economist Niall Ferguson promoted his new book, Civilization: The West and the Rest. He revealed the blindingly obvious...
 
 
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01:04 PM on 12/08/2011
The virus called: "greed" has global tentacles economic futures will deflate like a giant global balloon unless inoculation with public "outcry" and "action" halts this devolution!
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11:12 PM on 12/07/2011
China: Where the laissez faire economy so dreamed about but some Western Capitalists is most evident.

www.offthegridmpls.blogspot.com
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gerald4
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03:55 PM on 12/07/2011
Chinese citizens bring millions of USD to the USA is a good thing for the USA.

The Chinese citizens spend those millions of USDs to buy US located assets (privately owned businesses, factories, casinos, hotels, farms, land, ports, refineries, forests, ports, breweries, distilleries, and other NATIONAL WEALTH that was created by the non-government wealth creators/producers of this nation and previous generations before de-industrialization of the USA.

Foreign individuals in foreign industrial nations that create wealth will eventually own everything of value in the USA as they redeem their freshly printed paper US Treasury Bonds and US dollars that they earned by manufacturing US consumer products for title to privately owned businesses, factories, casinos, hotels, farms, land, ports, breweries, refineries, forests, ports, breweries, refineries, and other privately owned wealth and assets located in the USA (that were created by previous US generations prior to de-industrialization) that are located in the USA.

Foreigners will then become the major (or maybe the only) source of employment for US citizens after they redeem their US Currencies for title to and control of all of the assets located in the USA.

The US population will then become employees; possibly indentured servants; or maybe slaves owned by the foreign individuals that will own everything of value in the USA in the very near future if the US government continues to destroy the US economy and the purchasing power of the US dollar with deficit federal government spending.
05:14 PM on 12/07/2011
China has only $3.2 Trillion in foreign currency assets. It took over 30 years of 10% growth to accumulate that. Total American assets in private hands is more than $57 Trillion. What percentage is $3 out of $57?

Stick to the facts. Alarmist demagogy does nobody any good.

Besides, America investments overseas totals more than ALL outbound investments by all nations added together. You want the rest of the world to adopt the view you espouse?
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gerald4
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03:31 PM on 12/07/2011
We all must realize that NATIONAL WEALTH is only created by businesses, corporations, and businessmen, and is only made, created, and/or acquired when the members of a family (or the citizen businessmen of a nation, city-state, island, tribe, etc.) perform one or more of the following tasks:

1. plant, grow and/or harvest something of commercial value from the earth;

2. extract something of commercial value from the earth;

3. manufacture something of commercial value that is consumable

4. construct a building that is permanently useful for rental income;

5. provide professional services (medical, legal, dental, engineering, architecture, land surveying, technology, accounting, etc.);

6. collect payment for patent and copyright uses;

and then trade, sell, lease or rent these items and/or services to parties outside of their family, in return for a net transfer of gold, currency or commodities from other parties outside of their family into their own family.

The members of that family (tribe, state, nation) can then reflect their real NATIONAL WEALTH and financial security with the net positive accumulation of grain, gold, cattle, jewels, land, buildings, hotels, casinos, factories, and/or commodities that are then available to be used for economic security for reserve use in times of emergency and/or also to raise the standard of living for the members of that family and also accumulate redeemable products and/or commodities plus title to US located assets as redeemable value for any printed currency that they might care to issue.
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05:08 PM on 12/07/2011
Some of this privately held NATIONAL WEALTH that was created by industrious private businessmen (and the Corporations) is then also available to be CONFISCATED in the form of taxation in order to create funds to form a government with money to build and operate schools, streets, water and sewer systems, repay sovereign national debts, pork barrel projects, green projects, INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, wars, streets, bridges, highways, welfare, unemployment, school teachers, policemen, courts, prisons fire fighters, social security and other non-wealth creating government provided bureaucratic services for that family, tribe, city, state, or nation, and also TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE THAT CANNOT TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES.

There are limits to the amount of NATIONAL WEALTH that can be taken from the wealth creators in the form of taxes and paid to the government or borrowed from foreigners to pay for various government expenses, no matter how much these government expenses are deemed as being "necessary" (usually by the elite government bureaucrats). If those limits are exceeded, then that nation’s economy will self destruct!

The USA needs to generate new NATIONAL WEALTH via re-industrialization, and not mortgage or sell the existing NATIONAL WEALTH including the assets that were created by previous generations of US citizens to foreigners (print and sell US Treasury Bonds to foreigners) and then spend that borrowed money on bureaucratic government employee payrolls, government contracts, to pay for the common infrastructure that we all enjoy, and various other government expenses.
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gerald4
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03:22 PM on 12/07/2011
Chinese states, counties, school districts, hospital districts and cities should un-incorporate or declare bankruptcy if they cannot pay for the costs of their bureaucratic payrolls, infrastructure construction contracts, and their other bureaucratic benefits and bureaucratic retirement pensions, even if previous elected administrations committed the current taxpayers to pay the bureaucrats whatever previous elected politicians contracted for and obligated the current citizens to pay those costs.

National government funds should not pay local public sector bureaucrats salaries and benefits for their teachers, water system operators, sewage treatment plant operators, police, firefighters, street maintenance, infrastructure replacement contractors, and other similar services.

The local residents should limit the number and the cost of these bureaucrats, infrastructure systems and services to the cost that the wealth producing taxpayers could afford.

China is generating NATIONAL WEALTH instead of living off of borrowed funds to pay for government activities unlike the USA.

Chinese foreign held (external) debt is only 5% of Chinese GDP and the USA is 100% of US GDP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt
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gerald4
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02:55 PM on 12/07/2011
China's National Government is not in a crisis, only their local state and municipal equivalent governments.

The Chinese states, counties, school districts, hospital districts and cities should declare bankruptcy if they cannot pay for the costs of the bureaucratic payrolls and their other bureaucrats benefits and bureaucratic retirement pensions, even if previous elected administrations committed the current taxpayers to pay the bureaucrats whatever previous elected politicians contracted for and obligated the current citizens to pay.

This should have no effect on the strength of the Chinese currency since the Chinese foreign owned debt and the federal government expenses are also a tiny percentage of the Chinese GNP.

US government printing and selling newly issued freshly printed paper US Treasury Bonds to pay federal government expenses that are in excess of the tax collections and this will cause the US dollar's purchasing value will diminish to a tiny percentage of today's purchasing value related to other (industrialized nation's) currencies, and then the Chinese Yuan (or Renminbi) might be the "last man standing" with any value for use in international business transactions.

The Indian Rupee, the Pakistani Rupee, or the Brazilian Real will also have purchasing power after the US dollar purchasing power is destroyed by US government deficit spending since those nations (or their industrial manufacturing businesses and industries) are creating NATIONAL WEALTH instead of consuming NATIONAL WEALTH.

Brazil, Pakistan, India, and China are net creators of NATIONAL WEALTH and the USA is a net consumer (destroyer) of NATIONAL WEALTH.
02:12 PM on 12/07/2011
I NEVER thought I'd see the day when a HuffPo article references differential equations.
12:33 PM on 12/07/2011
Not only was this article insightful and interesting - it was also humorous and with biting wit..traits I've come to associate with Janet Tavakoli! Just 1 visit to China with it's pollution levels will tell you that something is awfully wrong, and that the current path is unsustainable!
Linda from Deerfield
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01:34 PM on 12/07/2011
Indeed, that is the impression of a former colleague who has visited China regularly for years -- glaring environmental degradation -- both air and water.
04:27 PM on 12/07/2011
Is pollution in China anything comparable to that in London in the middle of the Brits' industrialization? Hardly.

Did London sink to the core of the Earth? Did the Brits all die?

You are exaggerating. China is in the middle of industrialization - ALL modern nations, if they want to become rich and prosperous, has to go through that phase. It took England 150 years, and America 100 years. China has only been at it earnestly for perhaps 40 years.

When the Chicoms took over, over 90% of China was agrarian. Today about 50% are no longer tied to the land. More folks are still moving to the cities, all thanks to industrialization and education.

Life a about choices. I suppose theoretically China can just stay undeveloped, like perhaps what? Africa? Then Westerners would shake their heads and comment that some folks simply don't know how to help themselves.

Pollution may be bad; no development is much worse. The backward WILL be bullied. The drones would be dropping bombs on China, etc. In that context, what's a little pollution?
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12:04 PM on 12/07/2011
America is still an international economic leader! We beat China to the housing crash.
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10:44 AM on 12/07/2011
The basic principle is China to finance to the world is like the USA to the worlds police force, it can not sustain the pressure or the cost, the interest in being a super power of world financial dominance they are risking their future. Time will tell if China can accomplish what they are setting out to do and will be determined by the spring, it will either be success or world disaster!
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sposton
right to tell what they don't want to hear
10:42 AM on 12/07/2011
"Since 1990 around 18,000 officials have fled taking an average of around $7 million per flight. "

Where have they gone?
02:07 PM on 12/07/2011
A look at Vancouver B.C.'s ballooning real estate values, especially high-end properites, tells you where some of them are ending up.

What lack of oversight, mortgage fraud and runaway derivatives did to U.S. property values before 2008, wealthy Asian immigrants are currently doing to Canadian real estate prices in Canada's major cities.

The question for Canadians is, how long can Canada's current property bubble keep inflating before it pops? After a minor dip following the U.S. housing meltdown, Canadian property values are now setting record all-time highs. Unfortunately, real median incomes are not increasing, so you gotta ask, how long is this sustainable?
04:29 PM on 12/07/2011
It is a government policy decision to harbor the corrupt from other nations.
05:27 PM on 12/07/2011
I lot of them are fleeing to the States and buying up bargain basement mansions in the process.
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sposton
right to tell what they don't want to hear
05:59 PM on 12/07/2011
I am not surprised but I find this totally disgusting. 18,000 by X $7 mill. is a lot of embezzled money!
Linda from Deerfield
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10:28 AM on 12/07/2011
I believe that Ms. Tavakoli's article is timely, not because China's collapse is imminent, but because the intensity of distraction created by our own folly and struggles tempts us to take our eyes off of the players who have the greatest potential for delivering the next wave of chaos. Everything bears watching, as everything these days seems to unfold at record speed, just when eyes turn away.

It seems to me that we have begged China to change their business model to no avail. Yet, they must, for if one scours the U.S. for the consumer products that are not imported, there are essentially none to be found. As the American public ire over the export of jobs has finally reached a fever pitch, the tardiness of the realization is a hint that there are very few remaining jobs that could be sent away. I suspect that the story is similar in western Europe. I believe that the west achieved what it did primarily through the injection of cheap energy, and that era is ending. It is an advantage that China never had -- taking the jobs of foreigners was their ingenious version of injecting energy into the system, and that era is also ending. I do not see how China's high rate of growth can possibly continue. The western public won't cooperate any longer, and corporate stinginess toward the workforce guarantees that they can't even if they wanted.
01:11 PM on 12/07/2011
Those products are going to be made overseas regardless - China or no China. It was a consistent policy decision by the elites who ran America, for the last 50 years. Imported goods provide affordable prices, and greatly improved the American living standard without inflation.

If America goes autarkic, living standards would drop by 2/3 (meaning that your dollar will buy only 1/3rd it does today. Talk of making that up by having jobs and raising the salaries, simply means spiraling inflation, and pricing the other currently competitive industries out of the worldwide markets.
Linda from Deerfield
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03:52 PM on 12/07/2011
I agree with your first observation -- China or no China. I do not agree that, in lieu of all that importing, U.S. living standards would drop 2/3. The labor and imported energy component of goods is not nearly that high. If instead you are basing it on the commonly quoted "consumers are 70% of the economy", well, that is not strictly true at all -- for instance, Medicare payroll contributions are included (read economist Michael Mandel's ranting on the subject). If you are basing it on the jobs lost to foreign economies, you would be hard pressed to identify more than about 10-15% of employment. It is that loss, among other things such as exorbitant health care cost inflation, that has already reduced U.S. living standards and reduced discretionary dollars available to China and others. The Chinese model needs to change, for China's sake.
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sgillhoolley
Occupy the discussion.
09:59 AM on 12/07/2011
Fascinating article, I feel enlightened on several fronts. Now I have to work out what the implications are for the world economy.
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12:53 PM on 12/07/2011
When you get that all cleared up, be sure to let us know.
ThatsTheTheWayItIs
religion, ideology, partisanship are delusional
09:25 AM on 12/07/2011
The socialist BRIC nations are successful and growing. The most capitalist nations in the world - US, UK and Japan - have the world's sickest economies. __ I sold all my US stocks in 2000 when S&P was 1450, put my money in emerging markets. Now I'm retired at age 61, never would be if I stayed with US stocks. The S&P has never got back to 1450, and likely never will. Meanwhile, China will grow 7.2% over the next year. Incomes are rising in China, not here. That growth is real, not a bubble like our housing boom and bust. __ I have disagreed with every one of Ms Tavakoli's articles. I don't recommend investing based on them.
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disporting
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01:21 PM on 12/07/2011
I'd invest in Hong Kong.
07:31 AM on 12/07/2011
From Ms. Tavakoli's article: "Everything we want or need in life comes to us through our relationships with other people."

I agree with you & identify yours as the common sense, critical & creative thinking approach.

As opposed to the Ayn Randians & other (il)logical approaches applied to problem solving or decision making. Starting out with the false premise (I don't need anyone - I've accomplished everything alone), they offer up no solutions (or faulty ones at best) to problems. Neither does the 'faulty premise approach' assist in identifying the most plausible options when it comes to decision making. Rather, the only thing that is offered up is the logical fallacy known as circular reasoning or 'begging the question.'

"Begging The Question:
Circular reasoning is the best fallacy and is capable of proving anything.
Since it can prove anything, it can obviously prove the above statement.
Since it can prove the first statement, it must be true.
Therefore, circular reasoning is the best fallacy and is capable of proving anything."

Please see this list of (il)logical fallacies:
http://blog.geekpress.com/2006/09/excellent-list-of-logical-fallaciesad.html

(pick the best one!)