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Understanding Where the Occupy Folks Are Coming From

Posted: 11/30/11 12:21 PM ET

I'm compelled to write a bunch about inequality.

What are the facts of the case (my CBPP colleagues are doing great stuff on this that I want to promote)?

Why has it gone up so much?

Why does it matter?

Where is it headed?

Why so much interest in it right now?

Is it a political force?

So let's start with facts of the case.

If you want to quickly and efficiently get up to speed on the income inequality story in the US -- and who doesn't? -- read this from my CBPP colleagues. It takes you pretty far into the weeds on data sources and the like, but this is one of those economic issues where the sources matter a great deal. Series that fail to include realized capital gains, for example, will miss important dynamics going on in the upper tail of the income scale.

Here's their summary of the broad trends:

  • The years from the end of World War II into the 1970s were ones of substantial economic growth and broadly shared prosperity.
  • Incomes grew rapidly and at roughly the same rate up and down the income ladder, roughly doubling in inflation-adjusted terms between the late 1940s and early 1970s.
  • The income gap between those high up the income ladder and those on the middle and lower rungs -- while substantial -- did not change much during this period.
  • Beginning in the 1970s, economic growth slowed and the income gap widened.
  • Income growth for households in the middle and lower parts of the distribution slowed sharply, while incomes at the top continued to grow strongly.
  • The concentration of income at the very top of the distribution rose to levels last seen more than 80 years ago (during the "Roaring Twenties").
  • Wealth (the value of a household's property and financial assets net of the value of its debts) is much more highly concentrated than income, although the wealth data do not show a dramatic increase in concentration at the very top the way the income data do.


This picture from recent CBO data, which are among the best for understanding the trend in income inequality over the past few decades, is quite revealing of where the Occupy folks are coming from with the 99/1 framing.

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One thing to note here is the large decline in gains to the top 1% after the dot.com bust. That's a function of the decline in asset values which led to large capital losses for high-end households. The CBO data end in 2007 but you can be sure the top took another hit with the bursting of the housing bubble and the ensuing financial meltdown.

In fact, IRS data, which go through 2009, show the share of adjusted gross income going to the top 1% to have fallen sharply in 2008 and 2009, from around 23% in 2007 to 17% in 2009.

But that's expected. The question is whether it's cyclical or structural and the answer is that it's almost certainly the former. Note the huge bounce back in the growth of top incomes once the economy recovered. Since the underlying forces generating the increasingly unequal distribution of growth remained in place, there was no reason to expect a structural downshift (more on those forces in later posts, but here's an earlier post that gets into that material).

What does the future hold in this regard? Will inequality, as measured by the share going to the top 1%, start climbing again soon?

I'm quite certain it will as the forces stoking its growth remain in place. One way to test this hypothesis is to look at the correlation between the growth at the top of the income scale and corporate profits, for which we have data through 2010, and which have fully regained their stellar pre-recession peak.

The figure shows the result of a simple model regressing the CBO top 1% series on corporate profits (as a share of income) and a time trend (other than the time trend, I use the changes in the variables). It's a simplistic model -- nothing you'd want to take home to your parents -- just "blogometrics." But what we're looking for here is whether the forecasted series (in red) ticks up in 2010... and there it is.

The forces driving inequality in America remain, unfortunately, alive and well.

2011-11-30-top1_fcast.png

This post originally appeared at Jared Bernstein's On The Economy blog.

 
 
 
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02:41 PM on 12/03/2011
NewsBusters: Occupy The Huffington Post? So Snooty They Charge for Internships
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2011/12/03/occupy-huffington-post-so-snooty-they-charge-internships
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Marc Lewis
A 'Wobbly' Progressive for 50yrs
06:41 PM on 12/02/2011
This should be known as "The Greed Graph". It's like a cancer that goes into remission but never goes away (and always returns). The rich 1% over reach, then fall back but they never fall back to the rate of growth everyone else is at and always return to a faster rate than anyone else. In the meantime inflation is effecting the 99% more than the 1% (i.e. the less money you have, the more you're being backed into a corner). Taxing income and capital gains fairly wont even begin to change this situation. Real and fundamental change must happen at the very core of our economic structures to alleviate this. Wall Street, the Fed., Banking, all must be restructured and re-regulated. The way business is done in Washington, with lobbyists 'buying' Members of Congress and Justices of the Supreme Court, must end. Leave any of it in place and thirty years down the road we'll be back in the same place we are in now.
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ennis438
10:32 AM on 12/01/2011
It shows the decline of America when these Occupy protesters are harrassed and treated like discarded trash while nothing was ever done or is being done to these corporate mafia thugs including bankers that screwed this country and got us into a depression. It just proves my opinion that "Justice For All" is no longer true and it should be changed in the Pledge to "Justice For The Ones With The Money."
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09:56 AM on 12/01/2011
If I accept the premise, what do I as an individual do to try to fix it? I have been told I'm "destroying America" because ive got a corporate job. Ive been a credit union member for years, and I shop at the small stores. Beyond that... What are my action items? It seems the only purpose is to try to convince everyone there is a problem... But since they have no solutions to offer they will ultimately fail to accomplish anything.
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splashy
Really?!?!!!
06:44 AM on 12/02/2011
Help fund anything that goes against the policies of the 1%.
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07:37 AM on 12/02/2011
I don't have any direct control for funding. I can vote for those that I hope will fund the right things... But that's as close as I can get.
09:52 AM on 12/01/2011
Fighting against Wall Street was and is something that united the left and right. Whether they are conservatives or full-on fascistic in their thinking, they should despise Wall Street. This was the one thought that people like Hitler and Marx could agree on, Andrew Jackson and Lincoln, and it should be allying true conservatives and liberals today. Why isn't it? Because the neo-con media is doing a great job of manipulating conservatives into thinking Wall Street is a bastion of American capitalism. Bull! We who are part of Occupy must stop getting angry at conservatives who judge us and must instead understand that they've been brainwashed, and with the proper deprogramming debates, we can show the average conservative we're on the same side. Then, the banks will be quaking in their boots. As Martin Luther King said, he would rather have a converted southern racist on his side than a spineless northern liberal. We can and will breakdown the Fox propaganda and show the true conservatives we're on the same side, and then we'll have quite a civilian army to occupy Wall Street
09:41 AM on 12/01/2011
Not to jump on a bandwagon of "blaming" (which won't solve anything, in fact it perpetuates the problem) but I see only Conservatives being bashed and blamed in these posts. There is a case to be made that Libs should be happy, everything they ever wanted turned out for them...no domestic manufacturing to pollute? check. No drilling for oil at home? check. Taking farms and ranches out of production a la Rachel Carson? check. Dismantle dams and reverse water/electric power production? check. Provide housing loans for the poor? check.
09:34 AM on 12/01/2011
I really don't like the word "redistribution". It feeds into the wrong headed idea that something someone else earned is being taken away from them and then given to someone who didn't earn it. The current huge gap in income and assets is primarily due to unfair distribution. The ones at the top are overly compensated for the hard work, innovation and creativity of others. The ones at the top are strangling our economy to feed their obscene greed. I know from my own experience that hard work and innovation will only get me a paycheck; a paycheck that will permit me to continue to struggle along (which in the current economy I feel very fortunate to have). The ones at the top get rich off of the hard work of those below them. It's a joke to think they actually earn it.

I am not for redistribution but rather fair distribution. Fair distribution is a real threat to the 1%.
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splashy
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06:48 AM on 12/02/2011
You have good points. The only problem is that the only way to lower the level of power of the wealthy is to give some of that wealth to others so they can compete with them again, to level the playing field better.

Unless there is some other way for the fair distribution you talk about?
09:34 AM on 12/01/2011
Granted there is way to much cronyism. But to decrease it you have to downsized government. The more money Washington gets the more lobbyist and special interest fight to get their share. If there were no money to give out they would fall by the wayside. We have to wake up to the fact that just about all the politicians in Washington who have held office the last decade are bought and paid for by lobbyist and special interest and they need to be fired and new people brought in who swear to abide by the Constution and cut all corporate welfare and cut the size and scope of the federal government to stop the cronyism and corruption. Sorry but one party is as bad as the other. For me anyone who voted for bank bailouts, and massive spending over the past decade are out.
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splashy
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06:51 AM on 12/02/2011
Downsizing government just gives the corporations and 1% more power. The government is the only way at the present time for average citizens to control the wealthy. That's why the wealthy spend so much time trying to convince us that government can't work for us, that it's incompetent, They don't want us to realize that the government is us, and that we really have the power if we demand it, and can make it work for us.
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den1953
The best politicians are for free!
09:23 AM on 12/01/2011
Want to do your part in reducing Corporate money out of Washington boycott all the Koch brothers products that would be a great start!
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CactusTom
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09:08 AM on 12/01/2011
I realize that this simple concept is difficult for many “conservatives” to rap their minds around. But redistribution of wealth is the engine that actually powers the capitalistic system. Wealthy folks simply don’t volunteer to create jobs because their tax rates are low, as the Republican myth insists. Were that the case, with tax rates of the well-off at all time lows, the economy should be booming with more job openings than folks to fill them.

Rather It’s the circulation of wealth via reasonable tax rates of the well-off (really an investment in American) that puts money in the hands of average folks--the spenders who create the demand for goods and services that in turn creates jobs, drives the economy and in the long run makes the super rich even richer. Indeed, taxing the wealthy is not a punishment, it’s a powerful investment tool for all concerned.

On the other hand, when tax rates drop below the seemingly magic number of 20% of GDP as is currently the dismal situation, the bottom falls out of the economy. This was Bush’s prescription for turning a healthy economy into a disaster--lower taxes and making up the difference on the credit card.

The economy only works when folks at every level spend, and collapses when they don’t. So the answer is not to jam on the spending brakes--just kill the Bush tax cuts and pay for the darn stuff.
09:45 AM on 12/01/2011
Your right there. The easy way is to do nothing. With nothing done, the Bush tax cuts expire on December 31. The Democrats make a mistake to try to maintain them for the middle class, as the value to them amounts to only about $40 per year and is not worth it. The value to the upper classes with capital gains and dividend exclusion makes a huge difference, maybe $40 million. The GOP pitch, like last time, will be for "all" which gives them the loins share. Just do nothing and Bush's give-away to his Wall Street friends expire.
redonthehead
Winning trophies for my game face alone
09:47 AM on 12/01/2011
Okay let's pretend that the Bush tax cuts are repealed at the top rate. So then in a static economy revenue increase and the deficit would be cut from $1.6T to 1.4T. Okay, so the hole is still massive but slightly smaller. So the speeding train on the way to Greece slows from 100 miles per hour to 98 miles per hour. Great solution.
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splashy
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07:01 AM on 12/02/2011
But, you see, that's not all that happens. If you stipulate that the wealthy can take deductions for investing in businesses that hire US citizens here in the continental US that pay good wages with benefits, so the working people can have more income, thereby paying income taxes and buying more goods, then the debt would go down.

There is a multiplier effect that happens when more money goes into the hands of the middle class and poor that doesn't happen when it goes into the hands of the wealthy.

Think of the game of Monopoly, and how the game ends when one player has all the money and assets. If people want the game to continue, then that one player has to give some of that money and assets away. Or, you can start a new game with everything being equal so everyone has a chance to play again. The latter is total wealth redistribution, leading to flourishing capitalism.
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David Campbell
08:59 AM on 12/01/2011
It might help to note the mask that so many wear; it is from the film-V-Vendetta about taking over an oppressive government in the UK.
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08:55 AM on 12/01/2011
There were newer comments a few minutes ago that are gone; e.g.:

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09:01 AM on 12/01/2011
OldTulsan-there have been server issues since last night (overnight). They are still working on resolving those issues. Thanks for bearing with us.
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09:13 AM on 12/01/2011
You're welcome.

Too bad the servers aren't OpenVMS multi-site clusters that can lose one site without users noticing:

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08:55 AM on 12/01/2011
Funny how when the previous POTUS and GOP packed our SCOTUS with pro-corporate types and poor judicial findings resulted that We the People realize our human rights are being blatantly disregarded in favor of corporations who are not people...and politicians fail to recognize this...that people take to the streets.
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08:51 AM on 12/01/2011
There were newer comments a few minutes ago, and now they're gone.
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fiddler3
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08:23 AM on 12/01/2011
Inequality is one thing. Unfairness is another. What is the underlying philosophical principle that says inequality in income is not fair?

I do not envy the rich. I do not begrudge the opportunities found by others. I am responsible for finding my own opportunities.

The real issue is political. There will always be more people making less than the top tier. The questions are how far will the majority go to confiscate what they want, and what rationale will they use for this confiscation. I am not in favor of the 'majority taking things it doesn't need just because it can.
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Footwarrior
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08:59 AM on 12/01/2011
What moral principle says that it's OK to gamble with other people's money and keep the gains, but simply walk away if you lose?

We recognize that a used car dealer selling a rebuilt wreck without disclosing the car's history is fraud. Why does this same principal not apply to securities sold on Wall Street?
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fiddler3
physicist, musician, parent
12:34 PM on 12/01/2011
If people are properly informed about what is happening with their money, then I have no problem with that. A person who makes a bad investment can lose their money. This is not unfair. Read the prospectus before you invest.
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fiddler3
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04:49 PM on 12/01/2011
Fraud should be prosecuted and those who are found guilty should be punished.

But investors who make bad investments because they were too lazy to do their homework don't get sympathy from me.
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fugmo
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09:04 AM on 12/01/2011
Does this mean you're in favor of the minority taking things it doesn't need even less just because it can?