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June Jobs Report -- Far Worse Than Expected (Update)

Posted: 07/08/11 10:53 AM ET

Update below.

The June jobs report reveals a much more serious job creation problem in this country than most policy makers realized. Over the past two months, job creation has essentially ground to a halt, with 25,000 jobs added in May and 18,000 in June. The unemployment rate, now 9.2%, is climbing.

Washington needs to quickly and aggressively shift from its long-term debt obsession to the much more immediate jobs problem.

To do otherwise at this point would be deeply irresponsible.

Almost everything in today's jobs report suggests recession-like conditions in the labor market. You don't want to read too much into any one report, but considering the last two reports together, the American jobs machine has stalled.

  • Payrolls not only went nowhere in June -- up only 18,000 -- but May's lousy 54K was revised down to 25K;
  • Unemployment is now on a rising trend, up steadily from 8.8% in March to 9.2% in June;
  • Both average weekly hours for people who have jobs, and their average hourly wages, fell slightly, meaning smaller paychecks and less buying power;
  • The employment rate -- the share of the working-age population employed, and a key measure reflecting employers' demand for labor -- was 58.2% in June, the lowest in almost 30 years;
  • Underemployment, including the 8.6 million "involuntary part-timers" (meaning they want, but can't find, full-time work), was 16.2%, up from 15.7% in March;
  • The average unemployment spell is now just under 40 weeks, about 5 weeks longer than it was a year ago.
  • The government sector continues to shed jobs, down 39,000 last month. Due to fiscal tightening, state and local governments, down 25,000 in June, have been shedding jobs since mid-2008 and are now down 577,000 since August 2008.
  • Manufacturing, which was a bright spot a few months ago, has added almost no jobs over the past two months.


Look, I'm not trying to be unduly negative here. Obviously, a stall is better than the massive job losses that characterized the Great Recession. But if policy makers fail to recognize that our most pressing problem right now is job creation, they are a big part of the problem. We need them to be part of the solution.


Update: Somebody Do Something!

If there's a bright spot in today's terribly lousy jobs report, it's that it occurred before a weekend when the Obama administration and leading members of Congress are slated to meet on an issue of great urgency to the nation. It's just not exactly the right issue.

There's every reason for these negotiators to complete their work on the debt ceiling, get that source of econo-anxiety behind us, and plot a path to fiscal sustainability. Obviously, we need to hold off before starting down that path -- a recovery that looked fragile yesterday looks frail today, and so spending cuts or tax increases must be delayed for at least a year if not two.

But as the president himself said today at the top of his statement on the jobs report, what matters most to people right now is economic security, and for the broad American middle class, that means jobs and paychecks.

So these folks need to open their meeting on Sunday with a new agenda item: short-term measures to revive the job market.

I know this will not be the most popular agenda item in that room. In that regard, it's essential to point out that short-term, temporary jobs measures contribute almost nothing to the long-term deficit and debt, and are thus not inconsistent with the group's fiscal mission.

The president laid out a few ideas today, much like those from his press conference a week ago (see here for my take). I think he's on the right track -- clearly in "could" vs. "should" mode -- e.g., given the hemorrhaging of state and local jobs state fiscal relief would be a great idea. But it's an extremely heavy lift. (R's don't have much interest in supporting school teachers, cops, etc... and D's aren't anxious to send more money to R governors who complain about big gov't while they're cashing the checks.)

Along with the no-air-pocket strategy -- the payroll tax break and extended unemployment insurance run out at the end of this year and thus must be extended for another year -- we could use a significant infrastructure program.

The president mentioned the usual ideas here-road, bridges, railway -- and I'm for 'em. But as I've stressed, at least the first two in that list turn out to be more capital than labor intensive, and less popular compared to what I think is a better alternative: FAST (Fix America's Schools Today).

You really don't know until you try it, but I remain confident that this work repairing the nation's stock of public schools is labor intensive, meaning it will have a strong bang-for-the-buck in terms of job creation, the spillovers are highly positive, and this is work you can see in your community.

I also think Dean Baker's idea of work sharing -- reducing everyone's hours a bit instead of laying off somebody (and using UI payments to make up a portion of the wage loss) -- could help, though I doubt it's a "quick route back to full employment." Take up in states that already have it is low, and so this might be hard to scale up... still, we should try-this program also has a very high bang-for-buck in terms of preserving jobs.

These ideas were important before the release of today's jobs report. With the new information we now have, they're essential.

This post originally appeared at Jared Bernstein's On The Economy blog.

 
 
 
 
 
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08:34 PM on 07/10/2011
We as consumers are too. We buy on price, price, price. Wal-Mart didn't grow into the giant it is for it's great customer service. Nope. Price. The really scary thing, is that this has gone too far to be reversed. China is going to be the new industrial world leader very soon. Hope all your kids learn to flip burgers or stock shelfs. Not sure how they will pay off the massive school loans they amassed in order to get those high paying jobs. Oh, and let's keep cutting government jobs. There is so much opportunity in the private sector, why not get rid of them all?? Does anyone out there no know that every job slashed it government reduces these peoples contribution to our economy. How many of them will lose their homes, jump on food stamps and public assistance? At least have the sense to not cut government jobs unless the private sector has enough demand to pick up the slack. Putting more people out of work is the same as throwing gasoline on a fire.
Aesculus glabra
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08:45 PM on 07/10/2011
The growth of government and the jobs you speak so fondly of are huge drags on the economy. It is the private sector that funds those jobs; that is capital that could create 'real' jobs.
08:33 PM on 07/10/2011
All of us that are investors in the stock market can be blamed for part of this mess we are in. Every quarter when publically traded companies report earnings, we demand it be better than the last quarter or the last year. If it is not, the company's stock takes a hit.Executives, in an effort to drive profit margins up, look for cost cutting to increase profits. Used to be they agressively drove sales. These days they cut jobs and outsource as many as possible to third world nations. I sold industrial valves for years. One of the most prestigeous brand of ball valves, known for their reliablity, decided to outsource the manufacturing process to Mexico for one line of valves and Tiawan for their contractor market valves. I had several big contracts with OEM's for the valve line outsourced to Mexico. The valves cost the same, no cut in price, but the quality plummeted. Valves came in with leaking stem seals, seals sticking out on a part of the stem, body seals that blew out. And most of the people in their U.S. plants lost their jobs. This is the way our industrial sector is going. America used to make things. Now we outsource them. People that weren't cut out for higher education could find jobs in manufacturing that would allow them to realize the dream of home ownership or new cars. Not now.
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mgray34
Fighting ignorance one post at a time.
07:14 PM on 07/10/2011
Democratic House Bills to help create jobs since Jan.: Seven

An American jobs effort to end government contracts rewarding corporatio­ns that ship American jobs overseas.

Build America Bonds to Create Jobs Now Act – leveraging public dollars to strengthen the private sector, growing our economy by rebuilding America’s schools, hospitals, and transit projects, supported by American businesses­, the constructi­on industry, mayors and governors.

American Jobs Matter Act – to give preference in federal contracts to U.S. manufactur­ers that create jobs here at home.

National Manufactur­ing Strategy Act, which calls on the President to lay out a plan to help ensure American manufactur­ers can compete, grow, and thrive.

Advanced Vehicle Manufactur­ing Technology Act to help ensure the cars of the future are built here in the U.S., by investing in a broad range of near-term and long-term vehicle technologi­es to improve fuel efficiency­, support domestic research and manufactur­ing, and lead to greater consumer choice of vehicle technologi­es and fuels.

Currency Reform for Fair Trade Act to provide our government with effective tools to address unfair currency manipulati­on by countries like China, which could help create 1 million American manufactur­ing jobs by leveling the internatio­nal playing field for American workers and businesses­.

Motion to Recommit promoting jobs and innovation at home, and fairness abroad, by prioritizi­ng patent applicatio­ns from entities that pledge to develop or manufactur­e their products and technologi­es in the United States.

All voted down by the GOP

GOP bills to help increase jobs? ZERO!!
Aesculus glabra
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08:47 PM on 07/10/2011
The government can't create jobs, and politicians for the most part know nothing about how business works. They've done enough. No more gov't interference in the economy.
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William1950
everything I say could be wrong.
10:51 PM on 07/10/2011
oh, that will really work out won't it? ... we can hire goldman sachs to manage things.. remember a couple of short years ago?
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catcancook
Going Forward 2013-2016
07:02 PM on 07/10/2011
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/11/world/americas/11matamoros.html?hp

Over all, jobs in Mexico’s manufacturing sector increased 8.2 percent to 1.8 million as of January, the most recent figures available, driven mostly by what Mexican officials called regaining health in the auto and electronics industries, the engine of the economy along the border. Even Ciudad Juarez, which has both the highest level of violence and the largest number of maquiladoras, added 1.3 percent more jobs, to 176,824.

Mostly American-owned and in border states, the plants import raw materials duty free and export assembled products, lowering the cost of goods in the United States and providing jobs that pay more than the Mexican average (typically $8 to $16 per day on the assembly line) but a lot less than American wages.

Some of the new or expanding plants come at the expense of plant closings in the United States. Electrolux, which makes washers, dryers and other home products, closed a plant in 2009 in Iowa but opened one in Juarez last month that is expected to employ 400 people.
07:44 PM on 07/10/2011
Could it be that the Mexican government isn't as heavy-handed in its regulations? That their government doesn't tax success? That folks there are willing to actually WORK instead of having the option to sit on their butts in front of the TV collecting tax dollars for "unemployment"?

The liberals would have the Federal government spend MORE. And from whom do you wish to steal these dollars? The so-called "rich"?

If everyone making $115, 000/year or more were taxed at ONE HUNDRED PERCENT, it would not cover even one year of Obama's deficit spending. So what do you do for money??
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02:52 PM on 07/11/2011
Well if you think Mexicans are superior to your own fellow citizens, why not go there where you and your attitudes will be greatly appreciated, I am sure.
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William1950
everything I say could be wrong.
10:48 PM on 07/10/2011
when the mexicans start wanting higher wages the factories will move further south, to the next poorer place.. to the next population they can exploit. It has become very easy to move manufacturing plants, and with automation, the skilled personnel will move and button pushers can be found anywhere.. and people can be trained... the issue remains.
money, currency, the whole construct we have in place is not working any more... read the news, from various sources.. the entire world is suffering economic collapse.. workers across the globe are losing their careers.. losing their homes, governments are going further into debt, and people are revolting... worldwide.
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catcancook
Going Forward 2013-2016
07:35 AM on 07/11/2011
William..my point is the trajectory of the "worker/employee" because it has been the progression of all working humans. Buy a slave for cheap labor and at some point the slave realizes He/She is responsible for your success and wants something more than all the free corn he cat eat, after he picks it!

I support paying the worker top wages to begin with and stop pretending that people are not human and don't work to feed their family and want to be prosperous as well. It's been proven that better the boss & pay = better the worker=better the company which is good for the US.

We've got a toxic/greed thing that has taken root and Corps want slaves to work for them= bigger profits. It's not about human beings working together to build something anymore...it's all about profits for the investor, CEO and/or Owners. Those profits and CEO salaries are out of balance with what they should be and it takes more slaves at lower wages to keep them ...it's a house of cards. They can keep moving these Corps to find the cheapest labor and to resist paying US taxes but it can't last forever.
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William1950
everything I say could be wrong.
07:00 PM on 07/10/2011
there will never again be enough jobs to go around... never a return to the fake prosperity of the fifties and the sixties... it would be nice for us if we could freeze time, but the world continues to evolve, ideas continue to filter through the universe into our conscience mind.. we now need to let our construction of society evolve into it's natural state where all can prosper and thrive.. we can do this without the contrived unit of worth called currency. we can have a society that lifts all.. it is an imperative if we are to survive.
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02:56 PM on 07/11/2011
How is this going to happen?
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William1950
everything I say could be wrong.
08:22 PM on 07/11/2011
:).. with great dificulty I imagine... that said, I do believe it will be the only way for human civilization to survive. there are simply too many advancments in production, and too many people to support our current system..
google " Resource Based Economy " .. read about it.. you might like what they say.
also, look for posts here by Eileenla ... she is very eloquent on this subject...
Peace, and good luck my friend.
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Eileenla
Author, "Sacred Economics"
06:44 PM on 07/10/2011
As Einstein famously said, "we can't solve our problems with the consciousness that created them," which is why the political situation is so hopelessly gridlocked. They're all working off the level of consciousness that has led to the current problem, because everyone is stuck on the belief that we NEED MORE JOBS to fix the problem.

We don't need more jobs. We've been happily eliminating jobs for centuries so we don't have to do manual labor anymore, but can truly focus on becoming a wisdom society. So....let's wise up and become THAT...rather than continue to try and focus on creating "make work" to "make money." We have lots of REAL work to do...whether it generates a monetary profit or not. Most of it is necessary to preserve and protect life on this planet, which ought to be reward enough for us all.
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William1950
everything I say could be wrong.
07:02 PM on 07/10/2011
thank you for your sanity and your voice...
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Eileenla
Author, "Sacred Economics"
06:25 PM on 07/10/2011
When are we going to accept the fact that, for centuries now, we've been transforming ourselves from a human energy intensive, labor-based economy to an information/wisdom based economy...and that wisdom can't be packaged as labor hours?

Ironically, we've DONE what we set out to do when industrialization began, which is reduce the amount of raw human energy it takes to build and maintain a society. And now that we're almost done building (having settled the entire planet) AND that we've expanded our population to an astounding 7 billion, the need to sell labor hours so we can purchase the freedom to ENJOY the free time we've gifted ourselves is hindering human evolution, not advancing it any longer.

We wind up frantically producing stuff nobody needs to create jobs nobody really wants to do to generate substandard wages so people can afford to survive...when what we should be doing is celebrating our success and figuring out how best to capitalize on that as a collective.

Sheesh. We humans can be SO stubbornly ignorant sometimes...!
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William1950
everything I say could be wrong.
06:47 PM on 07/10/2011
I am with you... the problem is going to be convincing the population that what we have learned is now counterproductive and worse, even harmful.
how to do away with the concepts of ownership, nations, wars? .. the prize is right there... just beyond reach, within sight... we just need one collective reach.
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Eileenla
Author, "Sacred Economics"
07:46 PM on 07/10/2011
We evolve ownership (and post-death control) to stewardship by the living. We evolve the idea of nations to one of a global citizenry. We see war for what it is, one part of the human body making war on another part, which weakens the whole. We step into the truth of what we are - life forms embedded in a complex web of life that we need to treat as sacred and not as something to be exploited for short term gain.

We grow up, and discover that having long term goals and being willing to delay gratification is what grown-ups do. We recognize that all beings deserve to have access to their basic needs without having to pay for the right to tap into what mother Earth has provided for us at no charge. We discover that we don't need to be motivated by stuff and externally validated, and that intrinsically we long to do good, important things that serve a higher purpose then ourselves.

We relax and allow change to happen, knowing that change is inevitable, and that when we don't fight it it's oftentimes very good. We surrender to the not knowing, accepting that the first step on the journey to wisdom is admitting we just don't know...thereby allowing our half-empty cup to be spacious enough for new insights and knowledge to enter.

We become, rather than cling in fear to who and what we once were.
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04:26 PM on 07/10/2011
Why is it that pundits have been using the "worse than expected" tagline for months now. After a while one would think it is to be expected. People with an understanding of what the stimulus atrocity did knew this day would come. Much of the money went to bail out local Gov. Did this create jobs? Nope. Did they cut spending? Nope, they just spent the money allocated. So now that the stimulus has run out states and local Gov are finally cutting jobs. Why is this unexpected? Please tell.
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Eileenla
Author, "Sacred Economics"
06:32 PM on 07/10/2011
I've been expecting it for a number of years now. What masked the root problem, which began to arise during the Great Depression, was the post WWII reconstruction. Europe and Asia's wholesale destruction caused government cash to flood the US economy. That created an expanded labor force and the temporary appearance of the middle class. When that boom ended we went right back to where we were pre WWII - economic stagnation, because wages weren't keeping pace with industrial productivity gains.

That too was mitigated by the great social contracts of the '60's, which enabled the sick, the poor, the elderly and minorities to receive government-sponsored safety nets and supplements for their survival. That cash flowed directly to corporate coffers, adding to the illusion that corporate profitability was doing "fine." Taxing wages paid for those programs, which worked until wages continued to collapse to the point where it didn't work anymore. That's because the federal money that was flowing to corporations wasn't flowing back to the people in the form of wages or real spending; it was flowing into the global casino known as the stock market. There it sits, 40% of America's GDP coming from financial services today - which is the business of using money to make more money, not real products or services.

I know; I used to work on Wall Street.
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Eileenla
Author, "Sacred Economics"
06:35 PM on 07/10/2011
By the way, the REAL problem is this: we have a centuries' old economic contract in place that invites individuals to sell their energy (in the form of labor hours) to business in exchange for the wages they need to purchase the collective fruits of human labor.

The problem is, people don't produce most goods and services anymore; machines and technology does, using fossil fuels to power the systems rather than human sweat and muscle and sinew. So with 7 billion people desperate to sell their energy to a system that requires less and less of it to produce more and more, we're left with a broken formula and a lot of desperate people.

Cut government spending and the entire economy collapses. Just watch...
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William1950
everything I say could be wrong.
06:50 PM on 07/10/2011
we now have robots that make hamburgers... and somewhere will always be a cheaper labor source willing to work for less than it takes to live.
people might wake up when we ... I don't know what to say here... I fear that enough of us will not see the light until it is too late.
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iam7545 r
07:41 PM on 07/10/2011
Nonsense - are you saying that the same conditions do not exist everywhere? If the government would stop all the unecessary regulations and taxes maybe so many manufacturers wouldnt be building plants overseas. I am sure you know that after Obama bailed out GM they proceeded to build new plants in SA and China. Tax increases will cause the same problem with small businesses.
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rda1911a1
God Bless John Browning
02:44 PM on 07/10/2011
Change you can believe in yes you can!
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mgray34
Fighting ignorance one post at a time.
07:16 PM on 07/10/2011
One man can't change anything if half of the country doesn't want to.
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firewired
Compared to what?
02:11 PM on 07/10/2011
It took decades (and hundreds of "representatives" of BOTH kinds) to get us where we are now! Emphasis is on BOTH PARTIES. Which means the people who elected all of them are responsible. But witness all the name-calling and finger-pointing going on, from blog posts to the media to Congress! This is truly a divided country, from top to bottom. And the kinds of "debates" we've been having have gone nowhere while this country continues a spiral downwards that will affect all of us.

We have been warned for many years by MANY that these treacherous days were coming; why are we now surprised? Our very Constitution is indeed threatened. It may turn out that the Supreme Court will have to rule on the debt limit debate. God help us all, that things have come to this.
04:35 PM on 07/10/2011
When you consider that both parties are political corporations and that they have to compete with a pirate flottilla of Wall Street corporations for legislative priority it's easy to see how we got where we are now. The big banks with overseas tendrils, giant colonial oil interests, and international arms dealers (our biggest export) simply have and/or control more money than the people or the government. It's the Golden Rule. As long as the name-calling and finger-pointing aren't directed at the REAL centers of political power, there will be peace in the valley.

These days won't really get treacherous until we, the people, get pertinent.

Watch out for the whirled peas.
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firewired
Compared to what?
06:40 PM on 07/10/2011
One cannot simplify by trying to separate the different types of corporations that exist today. Fact is, we ALL depend on each other to make our livings and enjoy our freedoms. If we remember that "they" is/are "us," at least when it comes to the collective government, only then we can start making constructive plans which ways to go next. No one can agree where to start.

We cannot stop trying to change our system for the better, and I believe that the very corporation that is our government is and should always be OURS to change it when needed. But, how do "WE" come to any agreements when all we do is attack and snicker?

When we start addressing openly HOW and WHERE to make changes, only then can constructive progress can be made. Any other comments beyond that scope won't change things at all. A proven fact.

Where do we start, to change our government for the better in a way consistent with those who came before us? I suggest we begin there.
07:36 PM on 07/10/2011
I think the best place to start would be to go back and amend the Constitution and heed the advice of Thomas Jefferson regarding the incorporation of private/special interests.

I still can't see how Americans can be so afraid of incorporating a government yet so willing to accept the formation of a private corporation without limits or liability.

If the sovereign US government is going to grant such charters, they should be no less restrictive and carefully worded as the Constitution itself.

We could do that as an informed citizenry; using Art. 5 of the Constitution. Neither the Republican nor Democratic corporations will support that effort however and they will be our most formidable opponent until voters see the futility of two-party elections.
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firewired
Compared to what?
07:52 PM on 07/10/2011
Very well stated! Good idea! I personally believe we as a people would do well to study both Thomas Jefferson and John Adams's writings as guidelines to what our forefathers envisioned as we proceed to make modern changes.
10:54 AM on 07/10/2011
RIP Keynesian Economics. Your policy might sound good on paper, but we just conducted the largest Keynesian experiment of all time and it has been a complete failure.
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Izzy66
Agree to Disagree
11:09 AM on 07/10/2011
If you are referring to the T.A.R.P. Bailout, it was October 2008, under GWBush and Paulson's aggressive push.
The Stimulus package was not the largest Keynesian experiment, in fact it was EQUAL to the TARP bailout for the banks. The largest experiment was the New Deal, under FDR. You know, the one where caring about the nation's citizens trumped greed?
wsdave
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11:29 AM on 07/10/2011
That said, the New Deal didn't save us, either.
12:12 PM on 07/10/2011
TARP was paid back with interest. The New Deal did not pull us out of the Depression. WWII did.
wsdave
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11:31 AM on 07/10/2011
That should actually be pseudo-Keynesian economics, since REAL Keynesian economics has never been tried.
01:02 PM on 07/10/2011
What is "real" keynesian economics then? My understanding is the government simply has to spend a massive amount of money to fill the gap left by the public. It's not supposed to matter where the money is spent, just that it's spent.

The irony in the whole thing is big government got in the way of even bigger government. "Shovel ready wasn't as, uh, shovel ready as we thought" due to the oversight, regulation, and red tape imposed by the government. If the government can't get projects up and running in a timely manner how is a private business supposed to?
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Just19Percent
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09:53 AM on 07/10/2011
Welcome to the New Normal.

Welcome to the Obama Economy.

"Fundamental Transformation" indeed!
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Izzy66
Agree to Disagree
10:37 AM on 07/10/2011
National policies and economics do not turn on a dime like a Porche, but are slow to move, more like the Titanic.
1995-2007 Republicans controlled Congress, Singapore and Indian Free Trade Agreements were passed and massive outsourcing really took off.
2000-2009 G.W. Bush Republican President, reduced taxes while starting 2 Trillion Dollar Wars of 'Nation Building.' T.A.R.P. Bailout was pushed by Henry Paulson and Bush in October of 2008.

This economy was put in motion by the Republican leadership that deregulated the banking industry and Wall Street's Exotic Financial derivatives. Obama has been in office since january 2009, it is less than 3 years later, and you expect it all to be fixed immediately?

Your Naivete suggests that Instant Gratification is nearly fast enough for you.
wsdave
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11:34 AM on 07/10/2011
What got us out of the LAST Great Depression? FDR's New Deal?

Nope, it was the war. So unless you are prepared to have another world war, there is no reason to suspect that this ISN'T the new normal.

After all, half of the EU countries run 7%-10% unemployment as their "normal": Why should we think we're special?
12:15 PM on 07/10/2011
Uh.. Democrats controlled congress for most of the past 10 years. Now they can’t even pass a budget. They have just as much blame here as Republicans
As for turning on a dime... That was Obama’s promises after the stimulus. That is why he is dramatically losing credibility now.
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usna73
We are all in this together
09:49 AM on 07/10/2011
Given the total distortions of reality with respect to not counting people who allegedly dropped out of the work force, it is hard to discuss the numbers.

The official unemployment rate is 9.2%. However, if you start counting all the people that want a job but gave up, all the people with part-time jobs that want a full-time job, all the people who dropped off the unemployment rolls because their unemployment benefits ran out, etc., you get a closer picture of what the unemployment rate is. That number is U-6.

While the "official" unemployment rate is an unacceptable 9.2%, U-6 is much higher at 16.2%.

Things are much worse than the reported numbers would have you believe, and for the second consecutive month the beneath the surface numbers were simply awful.

U3 rose from 9.1% to 9.2% while U6 rose from 15.8% to 16.2%. Thus, the official measure rose .1, while the alternative measure rose .4.

This is an "artifact" of 272,000 people dropping out of the labor force this past month.

Also note that the unemployment rate is barely better than it was a year ago. It would actually be worse than a year ago were it not for people dropping out of the labor force.

For greater perspective, fewer people are now employed that in 2011 when, yes, G.W. Bush, boy genius brought us the economy "Texas Style."

This was a pathetic jobs report.
wsdave
Abusive or Insulting? I won't be responding.
11:36 AM on 07/10/2011
"fewer people are now employed that in 2011 when"

I think you mean "2001"...

Also, where does the U-6 number come from? I'd heard that unemployment was actually higher, better never knew it had a name (or actual stat).

Thanks.
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usna73
We are all in this together
05:17 PM on 07/10/2011
Thank you Sir or Madam for picking up the typo. Yes, 2001. Perhaps a Freudian slip that I never have to live through an era like that again.

U-6 is published as part of the complete monthly report of the Bureau of Labor Statistics ( BLS). You can access the data at their site. Best Wishes.
01:28 PM on 07/10/2011
You are absolutely correct. It's nice to read a comment from an informed person.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if the media were reporting this.
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usna73
We are all in this together
05:19 PM on 07/10/2011
Tom, thank you. I think our downfall is somewhat due to the lack of real journalism. if the American people accept stupidity, we will be doomed to live that way. There will always be political bias. However, one is entitled to their own opinion, not their own facts.
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Paul Andrews
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09:39 AM on 07/10/2011
if you wonder why the stimulus didnt create more jobs, then maybe this is why.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/exclusive-feds-600-billion-stealth-bailout-foreign-banks-continues-expense-domestic-economy-
09:35 AM on 07/10/2011
There's nothing to be done. Combine wallstreet, rise in corporate power, death of unions and globalization, it's inevitable in some ways. And we spend most too much of our money on defense. The government is more concerned with large corporations than individual workers, and now we've reached the point where America is paying for that decision.
mtngirl47
It's my country too--you can't take it back
09:47 AM on 07/10/2011
It's just so sad. Some days I'm optimistic about what can be done. But today, as our "leaders" prepare to meet and discuss our serious problems, I'm thinking that they will leave the White House without any agreements. I've been convinced since the day Mr. Obama was elected that the right-wing has been trying to sabotage any progress in our country. Things will get worse before they get better.
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Eileenla
Author, "Sacred Economics"
07:40 PM on 07/10/2011
Very true. I'm still hoping enough people are going to wake up to the fact that paper money is meaningless in a collapsed society on a dying planet, and that LIFE is the thing we ought to hold in highest esteem. ALL life, not just human. Until we recognize that if it doesn't benefit life we ought not to do it, we're going to continue to create problems for ourselves, because we ARE life, pretending to be assets and liabilities on some artificial global balance sheet.