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Clean McConnell

Posted: 07/14/11 11:50 AM ET

Note this, from this AM's Washington Post:

Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) is working with McConnell on this approach. Aides said the two are discussing a strategy that would pair McConnell's debt-limit proposal with at least $1.5 trillion in spending cuts identified through bipartisan talks that Vice President Biden has led in recent weeks.

Recall that Republican Senate Leader McConnell has a plan to allow the president to raise the debt limit without binding spending cuts -- he has to recommend them, then Congress gets to vote on them.

While this may be a (cynical and convoluted) way to avoid default, House Republicans don't like it because they want binding spending cuts -- and, of course, no revenues (other R's like the McConnell plan because they can vote against the higher ceiling but since they won't have the votes to veto the president's request, it will still go up, but without their fingerprints... not exactly bravery in battle, but there it is.)

So what I take from the quote above -- and I'm not sure I'm right -- is that Senators Reid and McConnell are considering attaching $1.5 trillion in binding spending cuts to the McConnell deal to get the House Republicans on the deal.

I say: don't go there.

If we must have McConnell, it should be "clean McConnell." To attach spending cuts with no revenues probably loses Democrat votes and gets you right back in the turgid soup were in already. Not to mention it's imbalanced, lacking the revenue contribution needed to offset deep spending cuts that have the potential to do a lot more harm than good.

You could get whiplash trying to follow the twists and turns of this crazy debate. But stay tuned and I'll try to sort this out throughout the day.

This post originally appeared at Jared Bernstein's On The Economy blog.

 
 
 
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realitytrumpsbull
two 'alves of coconut!
01:43 AM on 07/15/2011
Where's the latest quarterly report, and can we also have a look at the purchasing patterns of our Nation's debt, if there are any? Who buys all this stuff, are they Americans, and what are some potential problems associated with having a lot of foreign-held debt? I say stop selling the public down the river, ask the hard questions, and also ask why it is that we're being signed up to pay 1/2T in additional taxes in the form of interest payments on that debt. Play now, pay pay and pay later, is that shrewd? What would happen, if a private household tried to run their finances this way? Economy, or live in con game? Con Me...?  I say make the new goal 12 trillion in debt, and reducing annually thereafter. What would it take, to re-engineer the federal budget to reduce the national debt by that amount on an annual basis? And, who's stoking the fire in the opposite direction? Enough with the doubletalk, can we hear from some budget experts, please? When the wheels fall off of THIS ride, it's gonna be ugly, so let's have good management of the national purse, even if that means saying 'no'.
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tristrixi
Hon! Ministry of Love agents are at the door!
12:51 AM on 07/15/2011
These half solutions are tripe. What person who works for a living and has to report to a superior, be that a manager, a department head, or the boss, could repeatedly return bearing the argument that nothing could be done because the other side wouldn't offer any compromise in the face of complete intransigence and unified opposition to compromising on any point held by your delegation to the negotiations?

In Washington D.C., imperial capital of the world, this failure to find solutions is rewarded. Encouraging further sycophantic behavior which seeks to make opaque the actions of these merchants of self promotion in the service of oligarchs, not those to whom they, these legislators, have sworn an oat, the people via the Constitution. As we are now more than cognizant of, oaths sworn by public officials have no weight or worth, and are subject to revision.

Oh, but you poor plebe, break not an oath nor sworn statement, or you shall be punished by the full force of the law. Do as they say, not as they do.
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zetacplus
Conservatism has failed America
12:06 AM on 07/15/2011
I think that's the only hope at this point. The republicans are a complete mess. They should be able to get enough dems and repubs to pass a clean raise.
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Paul Abrams
11:58 PM on 07/14/2011
As usual, Democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. All they had to do was pass the Senate Budget Cmte Plan, to which Bernie Sanders and Kent Conrad agreed, under reconciliation, in the Senate, as an amendment to the Ryan budget. Had the President signaled that he would sign it, all the pressure--media, Wall Street, pundits, blogs--would have been on House Republicans. Either pass it, or default.

I am afraid, Jared, that Democrats just don't have what it takes to win for the American people. Republicans want the American people (most of them) to lose. What does that leave us? Seems as if we need a new party, I'd call it "Main Street Party", and take it from there.

And Reid is painting the President into an impossible corner. There will be a commission on spending cuts. The PResident will have to raise the debt ceiling himself, in the future, by vetoing disapprovals. Moreover, once the ink is dry on this disaster, McConnell will not live up to a single bargain he has made.

And, all the talk will be about deficits and debt, guaranteed, until Nov 2012. Nothing about jobs.
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Carl Caroli
Give peace a chance
10:32 PM on 07/14/2011
Reid is a lap dog and needs to be replaced with someone with a spine.
09:31 PM on 07/14/2011
If the president agrees to 1.5 trillion in cuts,it will serve his political position,it will serve Sen.McConnell's politics,the people are the ones that get shortchanged.You have to admire Obama,he is the most moderate republican president since Eisenhower.
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09:00 PM on 07/14/2011
It looks like the democrats are not on the same page. Again.
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Marlyn
Always wrong, but never in doubt.
08:52 PM on 07/14/2011
Yes, keep it clean. Vote on the raising the debt ceiling with no conditions on either side.
And then, NEVER DO THIS AGAIN. America MUST always pay her debts on time, no questions.
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01:03 PM on 07/14/2011
And there it is, the Dems laid bare.

NO actual spending cuts--just a blueprint for tax increases. That is the REAL Dem plan.

It is why Mr. Obama has articulated ANY specific "spending cuts"--just the limpid-pledge to cut some spending.

Speaking of Profiles in Cowardice...
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Marlyn
Always wrong, but never in doubt.
08:53 PM on 07/14/2011
"NO actual spending cuts" ???

Now is not the time for this discussion.
But have no fear, the budget will continue to be discussed.
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09:35 PM on 07/14/2011
Yes, "no".

It is PRECISELY the time to discuss ACTUAL cuts--which is precisely why the President won't do it.

To ACTUALLY discuss specific cuts would oblige him to HONESTLY discuss, instead of demagogue--and THAT is not in his nature.
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mydangself
I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me
12:47 PM on 07/14/2011
If we attach only binding spending cuts to an agreement to allow the debt limit increase it's no longer the McConnell plan but right back to the same set of demands the Republicans have been making to begin with.
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Marlyn
Always wrong, but never in doubt.
08:55 PM on 07/14/2011
Yeah. No deal is a good deal.

The discussion of the budget should never have been part of the decision to raise the debt limit or not. NOT was never an option.
12:27 PM on 07/14/2011
The Republicans have argued that the recession is the justification for ruling out new taxes. Surely, the recession is then also justification for ruling out a bigger recession. Put some heat on them.

It's time to SEPARATE the threat of economic crash caused by not raising the debt ceiling from negotiations to reduce the debt. It's time for the media to ask if it's OK to put a gun to Americans head as Republicans are doing. If the parties cannot agree on a formula for debt reduction, the solution should not be an economic crash but an election. I bet "Do you support ruling out an economic crash as a consequence should the parties fail to reach a debt deal?" polls a heck of a lot better than "Raise the debt ceiling?" but it's the same damn thing. Where are the Democratic messengers framing this debate? Raise the ceiling CLEAN.

Separately, spared a calamity, if the parties reps still can't agree on a compromise formula to reduce debt, we need not a deeper recession but an election. Voters can THEN decide between (a) gridlock that allows debt to grow (b) the GOP way (c) the Democrats way.
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zetacplus
Conservatism has failed America
12:10 AM on 07/15/2011
You sir, my good man, made my day. It seems reasonable, sensible, and democratic. Hence, it will never come to pass.