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The Role of Government

Posted: 06/15/2012 8:58 am

The president and Governor Romney gave dueling speeches in the swing state of Ohio yesterday, laying out broad economic themes, so it is incumbent on me to look under the hoods. Here's what I've got.

It is, of course, impossible for politics to be anything but deeply political right now.

By that cryptic statement, I mean that it's actually hard to listen to the core of what the presidential candidates are saying through anything like an objective lens. It's all positioning, framing yourself and your opponent, capitalizing on their gaffes while walking yours back, presenting plans but assiduously avoiding key details. And with the media, understandably, in full horse-race mode, an actual substantive analysis of the candidates' positions may be nigh impossible.

But I'm going to try anyway.

Their main argument is far less than you'd think about jobs records, the role of private equity, who best understands the economy, how much better/worse things would be if Congress would just cooperate. Such issues are obviously relevant and they'll be in the mix until Election Day. But I find it hard to believe those arguments will change many minds -- that they'll change the vote of someone who's already leaning toward one side or the other.

Their main argument is about the role of government in our lives. Neither believes that government should be a dominant force -- both stress the primacy of the private market in a capitalist economy. Both recognize that absent market failures, the incentive structure of the private sector will provide the best opportunities and allow people to make the best choices, in the sense of promoting the most well-being for the most people.

But the president sees more market failures, market barriers, inherent instabilities, inequalities and inefficiencies than does Governor Romney. And in this regard, he sees more of a role for government. He has taken to citing Lincoln on this point, as he did yesterday: "through government we should do together what we cannot do as well for ourselves."

I doubt Mitt Romney would disagree with that. But he would draw the line in a very different place.

For example, he has been extremely critical of the stimulus package, and, as Jonathan Cohn notes here, would not try to temporarily replace the lost demand in a recession-a clear market failure-through Keynesian stimulus. When it comes to health care, he does not view the "individual" market -- where people shop for health insurance on their own as opposed to as part of an employer or government group -- as part of the problem. He views it as part of the solution, and would provide individuals with a voucher to shop for coverage. He would not have rescued GM and Chrysler.

He does not see a federal role for safety net programs like Unemployment Insurance or nutritional programs -- he would turn these over to the states. That loses their countercyclical function, but it's also consistent with his position against trying to mitigate recession with government programs.

Similarly, he would reduce financial aid and cut back on Head Start (at least, those are the implications of budget cuts he has advocated).

This is the agenda of someone who, in reference to the above quote from Lincoln, envisions more people doing more things for themselves than they do now or than they'd do under President Obama's vision.

In the agenda the president spoke of yesterday, for example, government programs should help stimulate job creation in periods of high unemployment. It was in this spirit that he decided to rescue the auto companies, believing that absent government action at this time of credit market collapse (another market failure), no one other than the federal government would supply the needed capital.

Where he draws the "Lincoln line," market barriers like poverty block children from access to education. Left to their own devices, private firms will under invest developing technologies, like advanced batteries, and no firm could single-handedly undertake the R&D and interstate coordination of an updated energy-transmission grid. The market will fail to provide adequate, affordable health coverage. Financial markets will become increasingly unstable and will expose taxpayers to large losses.

The implications of these different visions for government will get a lot more attention than the visions themselves. If you believe in a lot less government, you can cut a lot more taxes (at least you can if you're really serious about all those spending cuts -- otherwise, you'll just have much higher deficits). And vice versa -- if you plan to offset large market failures, like millions of uninsured, you'll need more revenue.

So we'll continue to scrum around with jobs created and regulations and small business and tax cuts and deficits and fiscal cliffs and budget baselines.

But it would be better if we could get a lot deeper into this fundamental question of government's role, because that's the real substantive difference. That's what America is being asked to decide in the next election... not whose gaffes are more damning.

This post originally appeared at Jared Bernstein's On The Economy blog.

 

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Opinionated Lady
One for all
05:05 PM on 06/15/2012
Unfortunately, the difference between Gov. Romney's implied view of the purpose of government and the President's (based on his actions, not his words) is too nuanced for most of us to understand.

The President talks like a liberal, but walks like a conservative and the Governor talks like a TP kind of guy but wasn't the "strict conservative," he now proclaims himself to be, when governor.

Quite a conundrum...
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kateslate
In the attics of my life.....
10:56 PM on 06/15/2012
His actions might have been more effective if he did not have Republicans blocking his every move to improve the economy just because they hate him. We suffer because Republicans hate Obama. Does that make sense?
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Opinionated Lady
One for all
11:47 PM on 06/15/2012
Only up to a point, Kate. For example, the President has not been as diligent in resolving the mortgage crisis as he could have been. I have read that he was concerned about the moral hazard of inadvertantly helping irresponsible homeowners. His Treasury Secretary was responsible for overseeing HAMP, but Treasury's oversight in this area is described as weak to non-existent. Further, we have not seen prosecutions of the bank executives who sold mortgage backed securities knowing they were junk and then who bet against their investors that the securities would fail. The lack of penalties for activity that brought the world, economically speaking, to its knees has simply emboldened the people who are again gambling with our security.

While I agree that the R's have been ridiculously intractable, the President, until recently as he has begun campaigning for re-election, has not called them out on their lies, nor has he made an effort to educate the public with respect to more left-leaning economics. That is, it's not the R's fault when he doesn't fight back.
04:06 PM on 06/15/2012
Like Robert Scheer says, I can't see how the GOP can claim to be anti-Big Government when quite clearly they are pro-Big Military.
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ssfahrer
04:46 PM on 06/15/2012
What those on the Left (and Right!) fail to realize is that government is at its best when it is DESTROYING lives and property.... Military and police kill people literally, while taxation kills them financially. The functions of government should only be abortion (i.e. death of the unborn), military and police (death of the born) and taxation (death of your means of support-- but no more than 10%-- a 'tithe'-- should EVER be necessary to support a secular government. The rest should be done by religion (including marriage, etc.)-- NOT by government. Better a 'big church' than a 'big government' any time.
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kateslate
In the attics of my life.....
10:58 PM on 06/15/2012
What? You made me dizzy. Better a big church? Why? What? What are you talking about. Who am I? Where is my car?
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03:32 PM on 06/15/2012
This article omits the fact that "market failures" are also- primarily- Government failures. When private interests are able to corrupt political institutions, the inevitable result is catastrophe and a Government no one (except for corrupting interests) wants. The market failures, in other words, are preceded by Government failures. No one seems to be addressing that.
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Moonspirit48
Happy to be alive ...
04:06 PM on 06/15/2012
Well said. Already a fan -- and with good reason :-)
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kateslate
In the attics of my life.....
11:01 PM on 06/15/2012
THAT is why we need to get rid of lobbyists. But they won't go away. They have purchased too many politicians, and those politicians have no interest in voting against them. And now they have purchased the Supreme Court of the United States. Oi, vey. We are doomed unless they turn it around. Citizens United will be the death of our society.
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03:16 PM on 06/16/2012
Exactly. The discussion of "roles of government" seemed naive, whichever party was being considered, because the assumption was that government would work according to "empathetic" or "strict" models. In reality if it is bought it is neither strict nor empathetic; it is dangerous and out of control.
Who wouldn't want to buy Justice? And what could be worse than being allowed to do just that?
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Allene Stucki
03:28 PM on 06/15/2012
Oftentimes it isn't so much that the government tries to to too much as it is that much of what it does turns out to be beyond its ability, but no liberal, certainly not Obama, would ever admit that anything is beyond the ability of government.

Bernstein mentions Head Start as something that Romney would cut but Obama would expand. The government's own auditors have declared Head Start a total failure ("Zero effect on children's performance/skills by the the beginning of the 3rd year following").

The liberal's concept of "the role of government" doesn't allow for the existence of failure, even when it's staring them in the face.
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Moonspirit48
Happy to be alive ...
04:10 PM on 06/15/2012
You may be right, Allene, since I haven't read the article you cite. I do know this, however. In the Head Start near my home, one of the hardest things the teachers are trying to get the children to do is sit down in a chair at the table to eat lunch. Why, you might ask? Well, a couple of my friends teach in that school. They have to make home visits to every student's home. MOST of the homes have NO TABLES or CHAIRS. (No, they don't have cable TV, either.) Except for Head Start, where do these children learn to sit in chairs, stay at the table, and have regular meals? Many Americans cannot fathom the level of poverty that exists right here in our communities amongst us. Often these kids are eager for school to start on Monday because they've had no food over the weekend!
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Allene Stucki
05:53 PM on 06/15/2012
Moon -

Obviously the Government auditors were only testing academic skills, they had no way to measure social graces, so I guess it's good to know that the kids are learning something in return for a $multi-billion program. The auditors also mentioned it serves as a jobs program, so there's another fringe benefit.
09:26 PM on 06/15/2012
My understanding of that study was that the Head Start kids had caught up with their peers by then but weren't moving ahead of them. That's to be expected. Head Start keeps them from starting so far behind they'll never catch up, and other students in the class are held back because the teacher must spend so much time with the kids who start out behind.
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Allene Stucki
08:26 AM on 06/16/2012
The study revealed that everybody winds up pretty much exactly where he would have been without Head Start. The bottom line is that Head Start is nothing more than glorified day-care at immense taxpayer expense.
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BuckCarson
Life outside the ObamaSphere
03:18 PM on 06/15/2012
Jared - as a conservative I agree with everything said. Thanks for not spewing about policemen, firefigherfighters and school teachers like others - after all people see right through that.

The role of government is the central issue for all of us. Let's begin a fair and balanced dialog asap.
jim4ward
Jim Ward is a human rights activist
06:16 PM on 06/15/2012
Yeah, let's not "spew" about real people providing vital government services for the better of our society. We would hate to put human faces on the working people being impacted by the slash and burn Republican/conservative policies that created the economic mess we are in. Let's just keep racing to the bottom... Deregulate everything, trash the environment without consequence, outsource jobs overseas so nobody has money to put back into the economy, eliminate middle class wages, benefits and worker protections, cut taxes on the wealthy, keep the corporate welfare flowing... Wake up America! It ain't tricking down!!!
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kateslate
In the attics of my life.....
11:06 PM on 06/15/2012
You couldn't have said it better if you RIPPED IT RIGHT OFF OF FAUX "NEWS'S" PROGRAMMING, all the was down to the "fair and balanced." I am surprised your comment got through. They won't let my comments through on Faux's website.
See? This is really the ONLY fair and balanced place. Faux won't listen to reason.
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BuckCarson
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02:23 PM on 06/17/2012
I love fox news, Kate. More and more liberals are coming over every day. They apparently see something in it that you don't yet. But, my experience is that once you address whatever resentments you hold for Jerry Falwell or whatever they've told you, you'll see the light.
03:08 PM on 06/15/2012
With all the money going into getting Republicans elected, this election is more than differences on democrat and republican principles. Republicans want a payoff for all they have invested to get republicans in control and the middle class will pay for it.
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nastywolf
Pass 28th Amendment: Separation of Cash & State
02:54 PM on 06/15/2012
Much, if not all, of the GOP's success over the past 40 years has been due to it's refusal to compromise, it's obstinate determination to close down all legislation except their own and their ability to maintain an offensive against the opposition. Half of this is the Dem's fault, for not grabbing back the dialogue and taking the fight right back to the Repubs. The proof is that whenever Obama and the Dems do so, they gain in the polls while the Repubs lose ground.

The problem though, is that neither Obama nor the Dems have been passionate enough to keep up their counteroffensives and they quickly revert to being punching bags for the Right.

Change that, and the Dems can own Washington for the next generation. Fail to do so, and America will be a grim place as long as the Right rules.
03:15 PM on 06/15/2012
The dems never play realpolitik as well as the GOP. What makes you think that's going to change?
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kateslate
In the attics of my life.....
11:08 PM on 06/15/2012
Well, it's not fair if you cheat. Republicans cheated by getting Roberts on the SCOTUS, who then okayed Citizens United, which will cause the end of democracy as we know it.
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Moonspirit48
Happy to be alive ...
04:12 PM on 06/15/2012
I have lived through all those 40 years as an adult and seen exactly what you're saying is true. Faved but already a fan!
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Bocababs
02:43 PM on 06/15/2012
Jared...bottom line, the President should look closely at the Simpson - Boles Commission again, and Romney should stop listening to Paul Ryan and his Band of Austerities. In other words, no matter who gets in, we all need to compromise.
02:40 PM on 06/15/2012
Obama's new motto: No Hope, No Change.
02:40 PM on 06/15/2012
Thank you Mr. Bernstein for getting to the heart of the matter. This election, like the last, really isn't about Obama or Romney but how our society works. FDR's New Deal in the 1932 was about the same thing in very similar conditions. (Johnson's Great Society was an extension of the New Deal.) The real question, I think, is not whether government works but whether and how markets work. As you point out, markets fail. That's the elephant in the room. All the talk in the Media, around the water cooler and elsewhere intimates a government failure, but 2008, like 2000 before, was a market failure. True, our elected officials have undermined the ability of the government to address market issues, but the failure is with the market not the government. It is the private sector that is doing a poor job of creating jobs while the capitalists continue to suck money out of the economy.
09:30 PM on 06/15/2012
What Republicans fail to understand is it's the safety nets (socialism, they'd call it) that saves capitalism from itself.

Without safety nets to pick up the pieces capitalism leaves behind, we'd be a totally different country, as FDR knew. Back then we were either going to have revolution or communism if something wasn't done to alleviate the pain caused by unfettered capitalism.

I don't know which direction this country would go if Romney and the GOP got their way and eviscerated the safety nets while cutting taxes even more for the wealthy. It won't be pretty, whatever happens.
S M V
Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses
12:28 PM on 06/16/2012
Continued from above

Positive and negative externalities.

The externalities have to be large enough that if addressed would significantly change the purchasing choices of the consumer and diffused enough that they would not naturally be addressed in other ways ( like the courts with water pollution).

Beyond that there must be a process for the government to accurately price the externalities (so they know how much to interviene) and an understanding of the negative consequences from the government actions.

Given all of the above there is actually very little scope for Government action to address market failures successfully.

The rest of your post is about Government caused business cycles. Primarily caused by loose monitary policy and the popping of the resulting bubble.
S M V
Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses
11:55 AM on 06/16/2012
Yours is a widely shared belief it is unfortunate that it is wrong in so many ways. Most people do not understand market failure nor do they understand the what is needed to justify government action to address it.

A market failure in economics is a situation when markets produce either too much of something because the full costs are not paid by consumers or too little of something because consumers are not capturing enough of the benefits. People buying cars that pollute but not paying for the costs of pollution or not purchasing enough education that benefits society are two classic examples. Pollution is a negative externality in the first and benefit to society a positive externality in the second.

The existence of externalities alone is not sufficent to justify government involvement. Every action that humans take has some level of externality. Breathing has positive and negative ex
02:14 PM on 06/17/2012
This sounds like neoclassical economics which posits that markets are neutral systems that will automatically find a balance over time. Among the things this theory ignores is human agency. Markets are manipulated by human actors and a host of human traits come into play the theory has nothing to say about. Fear, greed, anxiety, confidence all how the markets actually work and must be taken into account. The new economist are challenging neoclassical theory and broadening the range of assumptions about the factors required to understand how markets work. They are factoring the human element into the understanding.
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EqualTime
Stuck in the middle with you.
02:18 PM on 06/15/2012
This article is at best a first step to extrapolating the stated policies - forward and back in time, of Romney and the President. If this were done by a respected, non-partisan group and presented to the public in a Frontline type of show over an hour or two, the electorate could have a sense of what is to come under either scenario - that would be media time much better used than jumping on the gotcha gaffes and relatively meaningless events which so many jump on just because it's either sensational or easier to make a moral decision.

On the other hand, as comments below have addressed - we have a real problem when our elected "officers" vote themselves pensions and other benefits severely disproportionate to the benefit they confer on the respective fed, state or local government. I didn't see that addressed above, which I think is a must in any analysis.
02:14 PM on 06/15/2012
The policy of the left is that if it sounds good or helps people then let's do it. There is absolutely no consideration for cost...ever. Social security, sure, healthcare, for all, more teachers, fireman, policeman, of course, stimulus, why not. Never the question of "can we pay for it". The response you'll get is raise taxes on the rich and we probably can.

Unfortunately, these policies get you elected but destroy countries.
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BuckCarson
Life outside the ObamaSphere
01:44 PM on 06/15/2012
C'mon - the problem with the Progressive Platform is simple. It ignores the astronomical size of the federal government. It ignores the utterly poor efficiency thereof. It ignores a daily deficit that puts the Chase fiasco to shame.

This left focus on teachers, policeman and firemen is completely transparent to the people.

Many of us wish that the left actually had a platform, but most acknowledge that what we are seeing is the final death gasp of the "great society".

Good luck in finding yourselves.
02:43 PM on 06/15/2012
"It ignores the astronomical size of the federal government."

Yet, up until a few weeks ago, deficits didn't matter. Nobody had much problem with the billions going to Halliburton, etc, half of which is probably sitting in the Caymans right now. How much of "Obama's" spending (in quotes because much, if not the majority, was set up before him and/or would've been a requirement under any president) went to anything besides keeping the national economy from running over the cliff?

And why should "conservative" even be allowed an opinion on this? They have zero credibility among anyone paying attention. Being so consistently wrong on something should mean your opinion is forfeit.

"It ignores the utterly poor efficiency thereof." How so? Seems very specious. It's shown that public sector workers do not make more than private, given the same education level. And no CEO salaries, etc.

The right's platform seems quite clear: turn America into a 3rd-world country.
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BuckCarson
Life outside the ObamaSphere
03:08 PM on 06/15/2012
iMetal - I do wish you well. But, I do hope you get some experience in government. I was there for 10 years.

Haliburton? Lord. Your hereos are not lacking in persuasive skills, that's for sure.

I mean it - I wish you well. Could I ask you your occupation?
02:55 PM on 06/15/2012
I agree with the overall sentiment about the size and efficiency of government. But there are a couple of points that must be brought to light:
1. Anyone who has worked for as many Fortune 500's as I have can contest; the private sector is not any more efficient. They succeed mostly due to attrition and monopolistic power.
2. Much of the government is outsourced to big business corporations (see military contracts, prisons, and health insurance)
Let's not forget where most of US national budget goes: to big business. Let's not get distracted by outlays to the poor, Medicaid, or frivolities. Thats pennies on the dollar compared to where most of our tax dollars go. Consider the “free” money provided to the Fed. I wish I could get trillions of interest free loans to “bet” however I want. But no one is complaining about that?
I don't believe that the Progressive platform is interested in Police, Fire, and Teachers per se. I think that the progressive platform is tired of wasteful government spending that does not benefit the US ecosystem as a whole - such as monies paid to health insurance companies, overblown military budgets, and the Fed. This money does nothing for us as a country. It is funny money that stays with the %1.
Economics is not that difficult. The market spends money, and people make money by producing/selling products. But when all the money is tied to military spending and financial “bets”, it doesn’t circulate or grow.
09:39 PM on 06/15/2012
Fantastic post. I agree completely. I had just answered the same poster that having worked in both the public and private sector, I can guarantee the private sector isn't any more efficient. In fact, at my very well-known private company, there wasn't a day that went by when a fellow manager didn't shake his head and say ruefully, "This company succeeds in spite of itself."
01:38 PM on 06/15/2012
We the People are getting ripped off !
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alexeiz
Since I lost all hope, I feel much better!
03:31 PM on 06/15/2012
Of course we are, the sad thing that you obviosly don't understand who exactly rips you off.
01:37 PM on 06/15/2012
Profit sharing will now be based on income from all GM's North American operations, not just U.S. plants, a person familiar with the deal said. With the new formula, the average profit-sharing check from last year's $5.7 billion North American profit would have been between $5,000 and $6,000, instead of the $4,000 or so that workers received, the person said. The union claimed profit sharing would be more transparent. Indeed, the bonuses will be based on a simple chart that lists ranges of profits and corresponding profit-sharing payouts, the person said. The bonuses will have a cap.