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Jason Derr

Jason Derr

Posted: July 6, 2010 05:07 PM

"I have neither bread, nor wine, nor altar, I will raise myself beyond these symbols, up to the pure majesty of the real itself; I, your priest, will make the whole earth my altar and on it will offer you all the labours and sufferings of the world."
-Teilhard de Chardin, "Mass on the World" collected in Hymn of the Universe

In the Translators Note from the 1971 edition, the translator apologizes to the reader for the poetic and mystical style of writing. Theology, he says, should be a scientific language to provide precise and detailed accounts about reality. Mystical and poetic language is used only to communicate reality through imagery, evocation, tone and ambiguity of paradox and symbol.

The problem was that de Chardin did not just write a poem or a short story or short non-academic essay. What de Chardin did was even more terrific: he wrote a Mass. While in the Chinese wilderness, de Chardin found himself cut off from his usual means of spiritual nourishment, the Eucharist. After a while the notion came to him that as a priest in the world, what he had to offer God was to find the presence of Christ in all the day's living, all the day's work and the bounty of creation. From this revelation he wrote his "Mass on the World," collected in his short book Hymn of the Universe.

It is hard to believe the translator, but for him, the Mass -- the worship experience of the community -- is unfit for consideration as theological reflection due to its being poetry. As poetry the Mass only communicates reality. Theology is supposed to play a more scientific role of delivering absolutes truths to us.

Living in a world after 9/11, we have all been confronted by the actions of absolutists, be they fundamentalists Muslims who blew up the towers or the fundamentalist Christians who started wars and illegal prisons over the destroyed towers. When we make religions about absolute truths then we freeze them in the past instead of recognizing them as living traditions that grow and breathe in the present.

In Thorton Wilder's Our Town the Stage Manager is asked who understands the nature of death and eternity. He responds, "None but the saints and poets." Wilder's brother was a biblical scholar and theologian who wrote the book Theopoetics. Amos Niven Wilder argued that theology must be poetic, or articulated in the images, contexts, hungers, desires, questions, passions and concerns of the current age. Niven Wilder wanted a theology of the cross that spoke to the "believer, skeptic and secular mystic".

During the last US election controversy erupted around Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor, and his comments. What we were seeing was a Black Liberation Theology that was rooted in the lived and true experience of the African-American community. What he was doing was constructing a theology that was poetry -- reflecting on Christian images in light of the African American experience.

In her book Wisdom and Metaphor poet and philosopher Jan Zwicky argues for a poetic form of doing philosophy, one rooted in an understanding of metaphor. As she sees it, metaphor teaches us to see "X (as Y) and at the same time X is not Y." In her introduction she says we are not wise in a vacuum but are wise about things: people, situations and contexts. People who think metaphorically think truly, as their thinking follows the shape of the world.

Zwicky says that metaphor, as a philosophical device, is a form of seeing-as. Out in the Chinese wilderness de Chardin may have agreed. The poem -- in de Chardin's case his "Mass" -- opens up our longing and asks us to hold together a variety of images in their contradictions and similarities. Theologically it means that the theological task is less scientific-philosophical but more an act of seeing-as. The Mass de Chardin performed did not challenge Catholic liturgical authority, reform the church or introduce sweeping panentheist theological directions. But as a poem it drew its readers into a form of seeing-as that allowed a reimagining of the relationship between God and creation, and a meditation on the real presence of Christ in the elements as the story of God's relationship with all of material creation.

Too often we hear clergy complain about the pulpit-pew gap when it comes to theology. We do a good job of educating our clergy but are unusually poor when it comes to educating our laity on various theological methods. Most laity get the majority of their theology from worship -- hymns, liturgies, praise songs -- than any other source. In this de Chardin's "Mass" is not a deviation from theology but a true expression of it. It does theology with the congregation and not against the grain of it.

Poetry and metaphor are important as ways of doing theology. In a world so divided by absolute claims, using metaphor and poetry allows us to have room for flex. It allows congregations to see-as as they wrestle with the vagaries and uncertainties of life. To see-as theologically means to enter into Zwicky's ideas on metaphor and create poetries that mark our progress on the way of Jesus. We seek less to tell the absolutes of what we must believe and more to articulate the poetries that express how we believe and which draw us deeper contemplation and discipleship.

 
 
 
"I have neither bread, nor wine, nor altar, I will raise myself beyond these symbols, up to the pure majesty of the real itself; I, your priest, will make the whole earth my altar and on it will offer...
"I have neither bread, nor wine, nor altar, I will raise myself beyond these symbols, up to the pure majesty of the real itself; I, your priest, will make the whole earth my altar and on it will offer...
 
 
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Jason Derr
05:24 PM on 07/24/2010
I want to thank everyone for their comments and posts. Many seemed to miss my point that theology is, at its heart, a poetic program. I will not in this space defend my argument, but will thank you all for contributing.
08:22 AM on 07/15/2010
"When we make religions about absolute truths then we freeze them in the past instead of recognizing them as living traditions that grow and breathe in the present"

Hmm. The key word is "absolute" isn't it? When removed from that negatively anti Islamist sentence (and make no doubt, everything is about Islam), we realize that we don't like the truth i.e. those of 'us' who refuse to acknowledge that there is a right way and a wrong way.

Poetry as a spiritual process is one thing (and perhaps the only thing) but to say that it has any ability to 'educate' when dictated by the confused....well. It is no wonder that Christian religious poetry is defunct. It confuses the reader.

A young poet that I know was deliberating on the complexity of the dual nature of "Christ" and "God" and when I told him they are not one and that is what perplexes him.....silence ensues and then anger. Until those who are confused start listening to those who are not confused there is only going to be more error.
01:17 AM on 07/11/2010
I am just sick and tired of the moderation on this website. It appears to be completely arbitrary. The most racist, venomous, libelous language is allowed on this site, but my comments are frequently rejected from being posted. Goodbye to Huffpost and goodbye to all of you.
03:51 PM on 07/08/2010
2:50 PM CST

"Religious knowledge" is an oxymoron.

J.B.
7/8/10
01:56 PM on 07/08/2010
"The study of theology, as it stands in Christian churches, is the study of
nothing; it is founded on nothing; it rests on nothing; it proceeds by no
authorities; it has no data; it can demonstrate nothing and admits of no
conclusion."
-- Thomas Paine

Theology is the study of gods. The difficulty is that there is no evidence to study. The whole thing is a humanly manufactured fantasy requiring faith.
01:04 PM on 07/16/2010
A conclusion in a Polytheistic society is not allowed. Did you not know that? Hopefully now you'll think long and hard about that. Mr. Paine no doubt had some hidden meanings in that and certainly he had a bit of knowledge of what is called Isnad or, the authorities of real religious knowledge who are denied access not only by those who oppose them but also by those who oppose the opposers.

Go figure.

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knerd
Trapped in a world he never made
09:46 AM on 07/08/2010
Poetry, metaphor and parable are the domain of the brain's Right Hemisphere. Logic, propositional theology and rationalism are present in religion, but they are not at its core.
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08:28 AM on 07/08/2010
In keeping to just the Medaphor of heaven, Jesus said, if you hear that I am on the mountain top, or deepest valley, or here or there, believe it not, for I am within you. Thus the saying, "The longest breath of love, is the shortest path to heaven". The crossing of the [Red] sea is another Medaphor related to being freed from slavery, and the crossing over. A sufi story puts it this way: "water met the desert, but did not know how to cross over. A voice said you have to change your form to cross over. Yet the water tryed to stay as it was. In the end, it lost its fear, evaperated, and crossed over.
The apostle John had a vision of kings sitting on thrones and animals that had several pairs of wings etc...This event happened in the same place, in the pineal glad in the limbic system of the brain. When one crosses over, in the physical realm Rumi, the poet puts it this way: I have been waiting for you, behold, your house is furnished.........Symbols are all around us yet we can't see, and this is why Jesus said, "It grieves him to see people live in poverty.." Again of creation, or the change from the spiritual to the physical is that fire is in water, and water is in fire, creation. You can witness this when you see a lightning bolt come out of a cloud, [Creation]. :)
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02:26 AM on 07/08/2010
"It is hard to believe the translator, but for him, the Mass -- the worship experience of the community -- is unfit for consideration as theological reflection due to its being poetry."
This whole topic is beyond me, and after a couple of my silliest comment efforts, I vowed not to post in the Religion section of HPOST. And this one does not count, because it is historical background. From the invention of musical notation in the 8th Century or so to the first musical setting of the Ordinary, the Mass of Notre Dame, by Machaut in the 14th Century liturgical music climbed a steep, steep road. And the Church fathers often looked askance at the sensuous excess of this or that innovation. Show biz. Tacky, ungodly. Enter Machaut with the first complete musical mass, a string of ballades that set the Kyrie, the Credo, and so on. Very pretty. Unprecedented. Soon after, a Council of Avignon committee of censors tossed all "complicated" music out of the Catholic
service. It was to remain so for a century, if I remember my music history 101--been a long time--
correctly. Respectfully submitted to this discussion
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09:23 PM on 07/08/2010
very interesting, thanks for the information. However, I'm not sure I understand what it has to do with the subject of the post.

Unless you're making the point that progress in bringing theology in synch with liturgy usually comes in glacial speeds in the catholic church. So that the difficulty concerning Teilhard de Chardin's mass aren't news in the sense that not even Joe Bach himself could have gotten into a church a century before himself.
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11:46 PM on 07/08/2010
The point, which might be labored, is that this is a parallel example of the mass
dressed in art getting 86'd from the Church as untoward. The Counter Reformation of course
did discover show biz, and the history of written European music is dominated in
the Renaissance by the modal polyphonic Roman Catholic masters. In the Baroque, the Protestants, to the extent that they could evade their own censorship in such as the Pietists, struck back in a manner of speaking, culminating in the cantatas, masses, and oratorios
of Bach and Haendel. And Monteverdi's giant vespers in 1610 was an unprecedented breakthrough that sported musical experiments that brought in his own revolutionary work with opera. Here the Baroque era musical tradition of high drama and knife edge contrast, unknown
to the Renaissance,was almost single handedly invented by one man. Think Caravaggio
turned into music.
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10:02 PM on 07/07/2010
Metaphor is one of the most powerful tools of understanding available to the human mind. It can lead to great insight and learning, and is ultimately at the source of creativity and the development of new concepts and frameworks of thinking.

But, when a metaphor is powerful and seductive it also becomes easy to forget that it's a metaphor... and that can be problematic. By its very nature, a metaphor highlights certain aspects of a complex concept and diminishes others. That makes the metaphor useful and accurate IN a particular context and FOR a particular goal, but it also means the metaphors are by their very nature only A way of viewing something.... not THE way of viewing something.

When you become too devoted to one metaphor, you lose sight of all of the other different metaphors that are JUST AS TRUE.... but in different ways, capturing different aspects or attributes of the thing you are trying to understand.

So I'm all in favor of metaphor -- both religious and non -- but like any enticing tool it must be used with cautions and caveats.
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LintLass
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10:49 PM on 07/07/2010
Appreciating poetry for what it *is* can mean not being so easily led to believe it is what it ain't.
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Noisyguy
07:07 PM on 07/07/2010
“The whole scheme of Christian Salvation is diabolical as revealed by the creeds. An angry God, imagine such a creator of the universe. Angry at what he knew was coming and was himself responsible for. Then he sets himself about to beget a son, in order that the child should beg him to forgive the Sinner. This however he cannot or will not do. He must punish somebody--so the son offers himself up & our creator punishes the innocent youth. . . I decline to accept Salvation from such a fiend.” Andrew Carnegie (from a 1905 letter)
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Weirdwriter
07:56 PM on 07/07/2010
"The highest life is probably to be reached, not by such imitation of the life of Christ as Count Tolstoi gives us, but while animated by Christ’s spirit by recognizing the changed conditions of this age, and adopting modes of expressing this spirit suitable to the changed conditions under which we live, still laboring for the good of our fellows, which was the essence of his life and teaching, but laboring in a different means." -- Andrew Carnegie, "The Gospel of Wealth," 1900

In 1914, on the eve of the First World War, Carnegie founded the Church Peace Union (CPU), a group of leaders in religion, academia, and politics.

He donated huge sums to and towards universities, libraries, institutes, churches, foundations, etc.

He was a member of the Brick Presbyterian Church in New York when he died in 1919.
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IzzyIdol
08:02 PM on 07/07/2010
I agree. I consider it unethical to profit in anyway from the torture death of another.
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naschkatze
A free man creates himself.
12:34 PM on 07/08/2010
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michelesda
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06:19 PM on 07/07/2010
With all due respect to believers, belief is not the same thing as reality, meaning that Derr is just plain wrong. God is something that some people believe in and some don't, and those who do generally tend to disagree radically about his/her/its nature and function. Reality is anything that we have no choice about believing in, which is still there and irreducibly the same for everybody even after we may stop believing in it. God, in other words, unlike reality, is not something you can do science on, nor anything you can use scientific, never mind precise, language to talk meaningfully about.
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05:11 PM on 07/08/2010
Well, yes, but didn't the article point out that it was precisely the rational scientifically minded theologians who got it wrong?
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michelesda
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12:14 AM on 07/09/2010
Perhaps it did, and I'm just not understanding it. I found that the more I read the article, the less I understood it. Perhaps the fault is in me.
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Redgriffin
06:02 PM on 07/07/2010
We live in a scientific age and we are told that only in science can we find the answers to our world so religions take on a scientific tone in their preaching because that what the people 'seem" to want what they forget is the religion is art, stained glass windows and music, and poetry ,the liturgy, It is not the person haranguing you from the pulpit or the street corner it is found in the beauty of a flower and a child learning about life. The fact that de Chardin was a philosopher and a theologian is often forgotten but I want to have more art in church and less science but most of all let us have peace.
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IzzyIdol
08:30 PM on 07/07/2010
I had the privilege of directing Murder in the Cathedral by TS Eliot in an Episcopal Church a city block long. We had a choir doing music of the period. Wonderful experience. Beautiful poetry. I have done about five performance events in churches and meeting houses.
The church's most important care for the folk is ritual in my opinion. We mark some of the most important events in our lives there: we bury people, we marry people. Many an atheist and agnostic occupy pews for the art and ritual alone.
So I create special events for churches to help them celebrate themselves. A new kind of ritual that does not require the mindless repetion of dumb phrases and the tedium of lectures.
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ZenSufi
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05:54 PM on 07/07/2010
Shortest poem in the world:

"Me,
We."

-- Muhammad Ali
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IzzyIdol
06:54 PM on 07/07/2010
Shortest Poem with the Longest Title

On the Antiquity of Microbes

Adam
Had 'em.
05:11 PM on 07/07/2010
For some of us, religious poetry is much MORE valuable than any reflections that tie religion to an "account of reality", since in our view such an "account" is best left to science.

For others among us here, poetry is itself suspect, since it lacks mathematical precision or strong truth-conditions. I am thankful not to be in this second group.

I agree with the author on the primacy of religious practice over religious theory. But for me the theory (theology) is itself nothing but poetry of a peculiar kind.
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Weirdwriter
05:26 PM on 07/07/2010
Nice. Poetry is a lot like music -- you can have an ultra-fine ear for it or be tone-deaf, but within that range is a whole lot of preference.

Now if we could all express our preferences (or lack thereof) with civility and thoughtfulness...
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IzzyIdol
05:08 PM on 07/07/2010
Wild Geese
by Mary Oliver

You do not have to be good.
You do not have to walk on your knees
for a hundred miles through the desert repenting.
You only have to let the soft animal of your body
love what it loves.
Tell me about despair, yours, and I will tell you mine.
Meanwhile the world goes on.
Meanwhile the sun and the clear pebbles of the rain
are moving across the landscapes,
over the prairies and the deep trees,
the mountains and the rivers.
Meanwhile the wild geese, high in the clean blue air,
are heading home again.
Whoever you are, no matter how lonely,
the world offers itself to your imagination,
calls to you like the wild geese, harsh and exciting —
over and over announcing your place
in the family of things.
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Klarsonent
Semi-retired landlady, small business entrepreneur
03:52 PM on 07/08/2010
Very good.